Having both grills each has their sweet spot. You can get way more value out of a kettle grill. The ceramic can be more flexible if you purchase the right one, but it will cost you 5-10x more for a comparable ceramic. The real difference is how often you want to feed fuel to the fire. The ceramic is 2-6x more efficient with fuel, and it can do better with temperature stability but you pay for it.
I've been cooking on a Weber for decades and just recently bought a kamado. That was one of the things that first jumped out at me. I roasted a chicken for about 90 minutes and, the next day, couldn't believe how little charcoal had been used. I suppose that, if you did the math, you could claim that, in about 135 years, the kamado will pay for itself in fuel cost savings.
@@extramurous ahah true I’d we look just to cost for rentability. But for taste if you are not just grilling. The diff is insane. Juicy meat well cooked like nowhere else. Kamado is insane for brisket slow roast, chicken… omg I’m hungry. Gonna cook a burger
@@Billcski no issues. I bought a pre fab table for the big joes but this table I made would work just as well. Here is the how to for the table in this video www.smokingdadbbq.com/blog-posts/how-to-build-a-custom-kamado-grill-station
Thanks so much Ninja, hope I represented both grills fairly and help people on the fence to understand what each of the grills top strengths are. Appreciate you checking it out
I’ve used gas grills all my life because of time constraints and because that’s what I learned from my father. I bought a Webber kettle about two years ago and I’ll never go back. The flavor is night and day and it’s not as time consuming as I thought. I really enjoy it. Every time I grill my four year old comes out and helps me so hopefully he’ll never grill on gas lol
Just to add to my earlier comment. I bought the Weber Master Touch Plus with cover, sear grate, griddle, Wok with steamer and igrill mini thermometer for just under $1,000 (Joe Junior is $900) The Classic 2 standalone is $2,300, Big Joe 3 Grill is $5,500!! That's a whole lot of food I can buy if I only get the Weber. Maybe it's the shipping and import costs to NZ.
Great video. Those you you stuck with a Weber Kettle, for indirect cooking, put one charcoal basket or both on one side of the grill, put a water pan above that, and then place your meat on the opposite side, way better results for indirect cooking rather than the split charcoal basket method shown here.
Just upgraded from the Weber Kettle to Kamado Joe Classic III and I couldn’t be happier. I loved my Kettle but the KJ is faster to get to temp and it holds the temp better. A lot less messing around.
In my opinion the experiment would be a fairer comparison if they both had a diffuser plate or if neither had. Weber’s hot and cold zone cooking has its advantages.
Great overview James on both cookers. I grill 3 or 4 times a week on a kettle and I really don't see the burnt result as you have demonstrated with the bagel... I have no issues cooking indirectly on either of my kettles. On my channel it is just about all Kettle, but I actually own 7 cookers and each one is different as to how they perform and some do better at bbq tasks than others... I guess the right tool for the job. Saying that... I would love to have a kamado but I am running out of space. Great comparison though. Take care James.
Another great video. Been cooking on my Weber 26 inch also have portable 18 inch jumbo joe kettle for tri-tips and bratts . mexican food hands down comes out great on it Roasted corn, carne asada, tacos. I do have a slow and sear for my long cooks, It helps save fuel also.It banks coals and sears steaks great. Kamado is great for pizza, loved the pulled pork off it still learning it. I also have a air leak im tying to fix so it limits my cooking on the kamado. Only thing that runs off propane I got is a blackstone flattop.
@@SmokingDadBBQ The kamado I got for $215 home depot floor model is a Vision kamado. The pull out try sits a little funny. I got some lavalock gasket coming in.
I'm discovering the barbecue world. Thank you for your video, very interesting it helps me decide. You are joyfull and its really cool ! Hi from France :)
One cool thing about a weber is it works like fire pit on cool evenings. Just bought a new one...my 30 year old weber still works well though. The kamodo looks interesting and i'd love to have both but the weber offers more options for the type of cooking i do. And i frequently use Manuka (New Zealand native) in place of charcoal.
The worry about the Weber kettle rusting is a non-issue. I have owned my Weber since 1986 and it is left outside throughout the year. No problems so far.
Great video James! I actually bought the Kamado as my first grill and then got my Weber. My reasoning for the Weber was for the quick cooks, steaks, chicken thighs, etc... The KJ I use for ribs, brisket, pork shoulder, etc... While I can do most everything on both grills, I do like having the options of both. I would agree with you, if the price is not a concern, KJ is the way to go for the first grill away from gas. I still also have a gas grill, my wife likes her steak and chicken breast on the gas grill.
Thanks for the insights. I think its great having multiple types of tools if you can so thats awesome. If I lived on a farm the grill situation would get out of hand lol
Friends don’t let friends sell their kettles, they encourage them to mod their kettles. Grew up with a weber, more used to it. Not as cold in my area. A thing to note however is that the hinged lid does require attention, as the screws can loosen and result in a cracked top. Cheers
I just got my first Kamado after coming From a kettle. But don’t worry the 22in kettle isn’t going anywhere. I’m looking forward to having some pork butts on the Kamado with some burgers dogs and veggies on the kettle
For me, overall, they are similar. Obviously, the kamado is better in everything, but the quality of the food will be pretty closer... it is like any other kitchen tools... there is the expensive one that is better and easier to use, but in the end, you need to know how to use it. I think the kettle is a really nice starting point for everybody. Cheap, easy to use, if you want to use just rarely you can (this is true also for the kamado but for the price, it is a little bit wasted)... it is always there... but if you have a passion for the bbq after some years you will buy the kamado.
I agree with this. I can make a great steak with the kettle but if I have a choice why would I make my life difficult? I think that's the issue here. Of course, I could own one of each and decide which is best for the occasion.
Long time Weber user here and your test matches my experience with the Weber. Its a great grill under ideal conditions. But if it rains, its windy, or cold it becomes a challenge to maintain temperature. This would be the main reason for me to upgrade to a Kamado Grill. I might try the Kamado Jr and see how I like before making the commitment to one of the bigger and much more expensive Kamado units. I like that for the price the Weber has a lot of real estate and under ideal conditions it can get the job done. But living in New England, grilling year-round with a Weber is a challenge. Thanks for the video!
There is another way of looking at it. You can lower the temperature if the Weber and use radiant heat straight from the coal. The bagel will not come out black and you save some fuel.
Thank you for making this video! I was one of the people who specifically looked for this. I have a dedicated smoker and I needed something for more quick grilling stuff. Just a classic BBQ type thing
I know the outcome already, but I wish you’d do a head to head w the Kamado Joe vs the Weber Summit. It’s lighter and less fragile but I ordered the KJ (because I have learned so much from you). I just wish this video existed in your library of tools because I debated for over a year. Ultimately your instruction plus a cost reduction in the KJ Classic II is what lured me to a final decision.
@@SmokingDadBBQ Not a master touch. Just a plain Jane 18 kettle that does the same thing. Those "fancier" kettles are a waste of money. They throw a $3 lid holder and junk thermometer on them and charge an extra $80 lol.
I have cooked on propane BBQ my whole life so far. When I had to buy my own BBQ, I went right to kamado because I was attracted to the idea of a BBQ that does NOT rust away and get holes. The versatility of low to high heat was the other benefit. I honestly didn't appreciate the change to charcoal until I started cooking! And I'm also in Canada so I wonder how it will work in -40
Weber’s don’t rust away. I have one from 1985 that I still use. I’ve had to replace the air/cleaning fins that burnt away over the years but other than that it still rocks. Not saying it’s better than others just saying they are the longest lasting grills. We will see on 20 more years how these kamados are holding up.
Thanks Kev. Yes I am 100% biased as its been over 10 years since I bought a Kettle so I do in my heart of hearts believe in the Kamado style grill, BUT like I said anything that gets people away from propane and cooking with charcoal is a win in my books so I tried my best to represent the strengths of each. Appreciate you checking it out and please do call me out if you think anything I am saying isn't fair or accurate
@@SmokingDadBBQ I've only had my KJ Classic 2 for a month and the kettle is already in the shed and my 22" WSM might following it on the weekend lol. It is an incredibly versatile cooker isn't is?
@@SmokingDadBBQ So I have a KJ Classic II and a Weber Genesis 300 series (propane) and I've gotta say: they're different tools for different jobs. If I get home in the summer and it's late and I need to get cookin' but don't want to do it inside, man, I'm throwing those burgers/pork chops/chicken thighs/etc on the propane grill. It gets hot quick, it cooks evenly and consistently, and it doesn't require the attention that a charcoal/wood fire does. Same would go if we were entertaining and needed to cook burgers and dogs for a crowd: nothing cranks 'em out like a propane grill. If I have time to spend and flavor is the priority, then KJCII all the way. Which one is "better" depends on my precise needs in the moment.
My first grill was Napoleon 22” Kettle Grill, went through so much charcoal trying to use it winter. After it rusted out my Grill which replaced it was a Vision Classic B I got through Costco, I also got Kamado Joe Jr. which I took on camping trip, I love baking , cooking, searing, smoking over charcoal (lump charcoal). Good job on video and comparisons.
Thanks so much, hope I represented each grills strengths and weaknesses well. Glad you liked the video, appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment
You have an ask catcher in kettle and grill grates lift at sides, hinged gates. Kettle here run at €250-€350 while kamado with same grill gate size is €1000+ the kettle can do low n slow, hot n fat pizza, steaks, bread , rotisserie. Also a basket on a kettle is great help. I grill year round and snake method for a long cook and leave over night, my komado will last longer that is for sure, but I won't be lifting up and bringing with me on a weekend🤣🤣 but they are great grills too
the new kettle joe since it came out is a better comparison ... but it is not as portable as a normal kettle so if your main use case is taking it places that doesn't really change whats the best one to have
I started with a very low end kettle, think the cheapest noname one at a big hardware store, then I got a gas grill which was very convenient but I missed the charcoal taste, went out and got a nicer kettle, not webber but one that was similarly priced to the cheaper webbers but spec'd closer to the expensive webbers, recently upgrade to a kjoe series 1 and it is so much better than the kettle, fit and finish, the lid being hinged rather than needing to hang it on the side, the lid fitting perfectly, minimal assembly required, much better airflow and easier ash cleanup, plus the big one low and slow is easy, it is very difficult to hold temp on a kettle
Its quite funny, I always imagined myself getting a gas BBQ, then I got a Weber Kettle performer as a wedding gift and suddenly I was grilling daily and then started learning and practicing slow cooking and smoking. I've now used my weber for 2 years, roughly 2-3 cooks a week and I love it dearly...BUT have my eyes set on the Monolith Le Chef Kamado or Kamado Joe. Thanks for your videos, very informative. Would like to see a Kamado Joe vs Monolith Kamado if you can get your hands on one!
@@SmokingDadBBQ well I live in Malta which is a tiny island in the south of Europe. Monolith is a German brand and is relatively new on the scene in general though has some rave reviews. In any case. Please do keep up.the great videos, great to watch and really does make me quite keen to try and experiment on a kamado!
I have the cheapest of the cheapest 22“ Weber kettle. Can do anything. Even slow cooking with the right setup. Would highly recommend. I also drilled a small hole to add a thermometer. If I were to upgrade, I might get the better version with the enclosed ash catcher. Would never buy a porcelain grill, so over priced.
Ironically, I’m thinking about circling back to a Weber kettle to just “round” out the arsenal. But this gave me pause because I’m in New England and was starting to worry about that lack of insulation during the cold months. Thanks for the reminder.
I like the red one better, it's pretty! LOL But in all seriousness this is a great comparison video for people to watch who are considering a purchase. Love the bagel test!
First I like your videos, well made and direct. I agree on most of your reasoning and yes, the ceramic kamado is a great option. But I don't think the price compares. If you buy the expensive SNS and other stuff, OK. I have both and use the one I feel is good for my cook. Also the rotisserie option for the kettle is really great. How about a comparing the Charcoal Summit to your Kamados.
Danson G. Tolman thanks for watching and commenting. Hands down space for the money the Weber is the less expensive so it’s only if you add some bells and whistles does it get close. I am hoping to borrow a friends summit to make this happen once the world opens again. That is more of a fair fight
You can indirect cook on a kettle but you can’t “convection” cook so anytime I’m smoking im automatically limited to half the grill. beer can chicken doesn’t stand up since their isn’t enough height in the dome and tempature stabilizing is better on a Kamado since I live somewhere very windy and that air does get in through the lid
ryanpatrick16 💯 agree. It’s way better than propane ... but if you’re going for a charcoal grill I thought this would help people decide between the two
Last week I upgraded my 18” Weber cattle to the big joe. Wanted a bigger grill and the Weber is slowly rusting at the small metal peaces which hold the grid. I had a hard time to decide between the Weber summit charcoal and the big joe. I went with the big joe for the following reason. In my opinion the three height positions for the grids and the divide and conquer system gives you more versatility to play with. Another point was that the summit has the same parts my current cattle is rusting at, which gave me a bad feeling.
Thanks James for the excellent comparison of the Weber Kettle vs Kamado Joe. I've been debating about which one to add to my backyard bbq arsenal. The Kamado Joe I think is going to be a great choice for what I want do. Thanks again!
thanks Rob. To complicate things more there is a Kettle Kamado joe now that didn't exist when i did this. its pricey compared to the weber but it has a few nice touches like the ceramic fire box (so you can do 700 vs. 500 without damaging the grill), retain some heat for longer low slow cooks, and the sloroller .... needs felt to fix some smoke leaks and the ash drawer warps a little too easy for my liking but a good option on the all and all... especially when comparing the taste / quality which is what saves it for me
really good video. Did a good job presenting the pros and cons, and made a really good case for the Kamado Joe. He also made a good point in how difficult it is to compare these two types of grills since they are so different. I think if you are looking at a true entry point and price, you have to consider that you can get the Original Weber for $109, and the premium for $165 which I believe gives it the advantage. You can also add the accessories over time as you want or need them, which is also nice about the Weber. My biggest question though, why not have both?? If you buy a kettle, and then later upgrade to a ceramic, unless you are super limited on space, why not have the kettle as a backup?
love love the videos!!!! can you please do a taste test of charcoal kettle weber vs kamado and maybe pellet if you can get your hands on one? thank you thank you!
I do overnight cooks like brisket and pork butt with my Kettle all the time. I also don’t check the temperature for 11 hours and it’ll still be at least 200 degrees after that time. The only thing you mentioned that the Kettle can’t do is 900-degree pizza, but I don’t cook pizza anyway.
i went 56 hours without adding fuel recently... i like kettles, anything is better than propane but you're not going to convince me we are in the same ballpark on efficiency. I get it is an apples and oranges comparison to begin with, working on a summit review for a more apples to apples grill comparison
Actually it make sense. Most people have a Weber instead of a Kamado Joe, let alone both. A Weber is a fraction of the cost of a KJ. So the Weber is used as a multi purpose grill/oven.
Though there was a definite biased the video was very informative. Obviously the kettle would cook it faster, As a cook I would've focused on getting the best possible results on both grills and then comparing the 2.
so long as people are trying cooking on something other than gas the world is a better place.... can't beat the price per sq inch space value of the kettle but its also a bizarre pairing people ask about regularly my neighbour included thus the video
You made it sound like the Weber kettle isn’t versatile. It’s one of the most versatile grills out there. It’s not just the grill you get simply because you can’t afford something else.
Hey James thanks again for doing this comparison. I have two kettles currently but after consuming more of your videos in the last couple days The Kamado Joe is looking even more sexy every video I watch. I’ve basically rolled out a pellet smoker at this point due to your videos, thank you! But as a dad of two younger humans life is not giving up a lot of time. I especially liked the fuel consumption videos but have been eyeing dedicated smokers. I’d be curious to see how offset smoker or a smoky mountain smoker would compare to the Kamado Joe. I do like to cook for the family and friends so my initial thought is go big or go home. But I’d be interested to see your thoughts and those three head-to-head competition. With the sidenote that I do know offset smoker is take time to manage. Thank you so much for what you do and I look forward to seeing that had heads if you’re up for it
One thing worth considering how cheap Weber kettles are used. You find plenty of them used for sale When it comes to price, a grand or so for a cooker than can last years, if not a lifetime. Able to feed family and friends; it’s worth the price. It’ll pay itself off in time What do you do think of Weber Smokey mountains? Could be an interesting video! Edit: thoughts on Weber summit? I use my Weber kettle and wsm14 very often. Would love to own a kamado. I just love bbq toys.
Pretty cool comparison James, every grill has its strengths and weaknesses. I’ve cooked on a BGE years ago and it was a lot of fun. I like having a variety of different cookers and if I got a free kamado I wouldn’t turn it down. :) Take care brother and keep on grillin!
Thanks for the video btw. I do all of my smoked food in a Masterbuilt electric smoker and a cheap and cheerful bbq. Having paid more for the MES and seeing the results I'm wanting top upgrade to a decent grill. Like your neighbour though I'm struggling to justify the KJ cost (mainly because I'm a tight fisted Englishman) but I've since watched your KJ Jnr video where you used it as your main grill. Perhaps alongside my MES it would be a good introduction to Kamados and if I do buy a classic later down the line I can keep the jnr for portability. Right?
This is not a honest comparisson. Lets do it the Weber way. First use bricettes not charcoal. Use a pizza stone for bread. There are 4 ways to use the baskets. The third way is 2 at one site and the meat/bread at the other site or use only one. For indirect cooking you can have the fire at one site and the bread at the other site. I agree that a Kamado has much more possibilities but a Weber is a different BBQ and should be used a different way for great cooking. You can use a Weber for indirect cooking but a Kamado is made for indirect cooking. What about the advantages of the Weber like the GBS system (insert possibilities). Lets compare the ash bucket (Sorry the Kamado has none) Just a BBQ fan with a Weber who bought a Kamado and is waiting for delivery! You have much better video’s. Ik keep watching
Thanks Bruno, some great points. I meant what I said at the beginning that my real mission is to help get people of their gas grill and into charcoal no matter what brand they buy. Both grills have rich accessory options that help really personalize the grill (i.e. KJ JoeTisserie, DoJoe etc.) so the point wasn’t to limit the BBQ world down to one grill vs. help people shopping get off their propane and fall in love with charcoal. A backyard with one of each is a happy place. Thanks for supporting the channel
Love this comparison. I do feel you should have compared to the larger Komado. You covered the difference well, but the size difference is much more critical. Especially when looking at cost. You could have also used the less expensive Weber which would have shown a much greater price difference. I use Weber’s (I have multiple), and ceramics (I have multiple). Both are great, and capable of producing great food. Thanks for the channel. I enjoy the content!
I totally agree but with Covid I haven't been able to get my friends Weber Summit. Now that things are clearing up I think a more head to head is in order.
The great thing about Weber’s is they all perform the same. In the US you can buy the base model for $99, and the premium for $165. A beginner could start there if budget was the concern. Adding the slow and sear makes it more versatile. Keep up the great work!
You priced the weber with a slow and searing but didn't use it. I think even charcoal on one side would give better results... the ceramic is definitely very efficient though.
Love the channel, I love my Kettle with the Slow n Sear, I love my Joe Jr, I love my Green Mountain..... 1st world problems 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️Weber Summitt vs Kamado would also be a great battle.
Have you considered a comparison between kamado Joe and Primo oval? The one thing that bothers me a bit is that the kamado Joe is made in China is there a way you could compare the quality of the two?
Thanks Donny. I don’t have one near me and haven’t cooked on one to be able to have a qualified comment but if anyone reading this in my area has one they can wheel over we could do a video. I’ve read the accessory ecosystem is limited for the unique shape but that might be an outdated perspective
You need to get Weber Summit Kamado. This likely beats Joe, particularly at half the price of Big Joe for same size, and dialled in temps on the Summit. It’s a Kamado and a kettle.
i agree for a better comparison those two are more of a normal head to head ... this was more about trying to touch on the differences between the two styles that can be had for a similar price.... even if its a stretch
Really enjoy all your videos and I'm learning alot from them! I'm just wondering why you didn't use the diffuser plate on the Weber? It come with my Weber that I recently bought
Great video, thought you might have launched a grenade there against some kettle fanatics, but you stayed level.. Comments sectio seems to be polite.... for now 👀. Great video, big fan.
Glad you enjoyed it Matt. This is 100% not intended to be one brand vs. the other... its just a story about my neighbor and his journey so that people who want different things understand which grill does better at some tasks and can make an informed decision. I am team charcoal all the way... anything that gets people grilling is good news in my books
Feels a lot like you are comparing apples to oranges. First off, the kettle is 22 inches and the Joe Jr is 13.5". Then you say they are about the same price (just cause you decided to add up the prices of all the add-ons). In USD the Joe is 499 and the Mastertouch is 219. If you did the test on the Weber Premium (without the baskets) it would be 165 USD and im sure the results would have been the same. 499 to 165? Ya the Joe better perform better.But wait, with the Kettle you can cook a whole rack of ribs, or a 15 pound Turkey. With the Joe JR you barely could get a rack of st.louis ribs on there and would for sure have to cut them in half to do so.A turkey on the 13.5 Joe Jr? Only if it was about 8-9 pounds (do turkey's even come that small?) So anyways, they are both totally different grills with totally different advantages and disadvantages and totally different price ranges.What is more, in your own comments to another viewer, you openly admit you are bias. So why should I watch this review? Are you trying to get sponsored by Kamado? Or perhaps you already are. Perhaps a more accurate comparison based on the test that you did would have been the 14" WSM. Similar size and since it was an indirect heat test, you could put the water pan in the WSM. Oh and also, the 14" WSM is very fuel efficient and only costs 219USD so it is still 280 less than the beloved Joe JR.
Wesley thanks Wesley. It is very Apple and oranges I know. But I get asked this a lot and using my neighbour as the example on why he switched from a kettle to a Kamado I wanted to share the strengths of each to help people decide. The jr is 399 USD btw, the 499 is the price in Canada. As I said you can’t beat the price per sq inch value of the Weber. Can’t do it. This isn’t intended to use ninja math to say a Kamado is cheaper, it isn’t. But when you add things that aren’t included you can get close in price in which case it’s about understanding what type of cooking you will be doing and getting a grill that meets your needs.
Mate you lost me when I saw you wearing Crocs 🤣 ... in all seriousness, nice video. I'm lucky enough to have a few Joes and lots of Kettles, it's always good to have exactly the grill you want but it's not always that easy for everyone!
haha I do love my crocs almost as much as my Bbq’s lol. They are both great grills that serve different purposes and if you can have one of each even better. thanks for checking it out
Great video thanks! I am an entry level griller with a kettle looking to upgrade but I don’t think I’m ready yet. Got two questions here: 1) where to find some good recipes that are easy for kettle to get me going? 2) like your neighbor, if I was to upgrade to a ceramic grill, when would be a good time (like after you can cook this successfully, you’re ready for ceramic)? Thanks again!
Thanks so much. I don't think there is a set time or anything... my neighbour actually thinks the Joe is easier to run than his kettle was for stabilizing temps so I wouldn't view it as a graduated license type thing which is you need to master grill X or Y before attempting. It really comes down to what you want to do, if you want to tailgate every weekend and toss the grill in the car and go a Kettle has lots of advantages in that scenario as its lighter, and durable. If you want to get into ribs, brisket, pizza etc. and want to buy the SUV of BBQ's that can do most everything than I would consider jumping in the deep end and going for the ceramic grill right away. It's not as daunting as it feels right now at this moment.
I like your channel. And I love this topic. I have a couple arguments for the weber kettle. Baby back maniac and the slow n sear guy showed a video where they got searing temps over 1000 degrees F, and it actually out performed the big green egg in top temps. So I think searing temps are at least even. On my kettle, I can get the steak so close to the coals with the SNS or the weber baskets. The moisture retention is arguable to me. Esp with a SNS, you are adding moisture to the kettle. A big plus for the kettle is price. All you need in my opinion is the grill. SNS makes it easier to use, but not necessary. You can get into charcoal cooking so much cheaper. Not to mention the used weber market is huge on Craigslist/Facebook market. I got a weber performer for 25$!!! Crazy. Lastly, one plus of the weber is the ability to modify it. For instance, I added a lavalock gasket for 20$. Makes temps much more stable. I bought 2 cheap thermometers and put them close to grate level on opposite sides, to make it more usable esp with the SNS. I would love a comparison on the smoke flavor/moisture on a kettle with sns vs the slo roller. Again, love your channel. Just some thoughts from a guy who has a kettle.
I love your input, thanks for sharing. Some great thoughts in this note, once the world opens I am hoping to borrow a friends Summit and do a video. I did pizza this weekend and was beyond 900f on the dome temp, no idea what the grid temp would be but its hotter than you'd want or need. would love to find a way to do your idea for the SNS vs the SloRoller. I might need something better than bread for that lol
Hey James, long time no speak lol. So, I now have my KJ Classic III setup - thanks for the unboxing and setup video! 😀 - however, I’ve yet to use my new baby as I’m not sure about firing it up in very cold conditions. I say very cold, but UK cold where I am is about 0c to 4c during the day at the moment. There’s nothing in the manual telling me not to, but I defer to your expert knowledge if you may be so kind to guide me? 😀 loving the videos and loving the journey with my new KJ. Thanks Muchly! Adam.
