Which Borderlands Did it Better: Endgame Edition 

I do wish bl3 had more raid bosses but I like the added difficulty of building a build that can mob and boss. The true trials are so much fan

Great video man, first time seeing ur channel but glad I came across it 🔥

The original Borderlands has my absolute favorite raid boss in the entire series (and I mean when you fight him legitimately, without any stupid ledge glitches), has a fantastic set of pearlescent items that are glorious to find, a nice balance that allows every character to handle every piece of content quite fairly and with a very wide selection of gear, and has weapon proficiencies to level through that are so much better than the badass rank crap the later games have. I like the proficiencies because they have a set maximum for every weapon type rather than unlimited bonuses to every attribute of your character, which continuously makes the game easier. BL3 guardian rank is the absolute worst of them all to me as it locks away mechanics that significantly change gameplay, requiring you to boost all of your attributes by a significant amount if you want to use them. It's made even worse by the fact that BL3 is the easiest game in the series before adding all the guardian rank abilities! Learning to solo Crawmerax the Invincible on each VH was an amazing and rewarding experience for me that I continue to enjoy doing, whereas in BL3 I simply turned on mayhem 11 as soon as I finished normal mode (which was a cakewalk of a campaign), powerleveled my character to 72, and then walked through every single true trial, invincible, slaughter arena, and true takedown on offer and faced little to no challenge. I just bought BL3 2 weeks ago and I believe arms race gave me more of a struggle than anything else in the game lol

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Hey, great to see a video from you again after a year. I love your Borderlands content and your down-to-earth Canadian style!

my favorite game is borderlands 2, and I wish he mentioned when 50 was the max lvl. I was also hoping to hear him mention the bee and conference call.

was excited to hear your opinion up until around the 5 minute mark where you say there are only 10 guns viable at the end game of borderlands 2. This is a misconception that comes down to a lack of knowledge, and nothing more.

Hmm I really enjoy 3 but i think its too easy. I like Mayhem Mode because it provides difficulty. BL3 Maliwan Takedown = Bl2 Digistruck Peak. Bl3 Best Slaughter is Slaughter Shaft = Bl2 Murderlins Temple. Bl3 only 2 real raid bosses Anathema and Hemo = Bl2 8 real raid bosses Ancient Dragons, Pyro Pete, Vermi, Vorac, Hyperious, Crawmerax, Terramorphous and Haderax. Bl2 enemies are better bl3 combat is better

Just finished watching your vid, and imo the best endgame in Borderlands is BL3. Of course Mayhem 1-10 are a slog but once you get to 11 that's where the endgame starts to be *really* fun. Not only that, but the approach to endgame that BL3 provided with the Mayhem Levels was a lot more welcoming than the previous games. I usually shy away from challenges, therefore I never played any of the games in UVHM and the amount of TVHM playthroughs that I have can be counted on one, maybe two hands despite an abnormal amount of hours put into the games. But climbing the ladder from mayhem 1 to 11, if you ignore the modifiers, felt less like getting challenged and more like getting variations in combat. It didnt even feel like a gateway to the endgame and more like just more Borderlands, if saying that makes sense. Before getting into the mayhem levels i didnt care about BLs endgame, i had my fun with just normal mode and occasionally TVHM for years. Seeing people online obsess over specific gear felt odd and alien to me, i looked at it as a thing for the real die-hards to get into. Only after BL3's mayhem levels i realized how great the franchises endgame can be and since then I've been a lot more open to TVHM runs in the other games. I still shy away from UVHM tho bc everyone says that slag is a must-have in it and being required to have something limits my arsenal and therefore my fun in a way that I dont want to get into lol

Holodome, mutator arena and Murderlins temple were replayable at least, I do wish finks and Hyperion were replayable it sucks having to use gibbed for it. 11:17

after M2.0 i didn't realy like BL3 that much (the mayhem weapon scaling ruined it for me, you could just start M10, farm some chests or in the end just run arms race and voila, other mayhem levels where absolete) gameplay wise it was great and did have good end game. then TTWL came and the gameplay and weapons where what should have been the case in BL3 M2.0 but like you said, endgame was pretty lacking and the PLC was just glorified chaos dungeons wich was a shame.

Im glad you liked Borderlands 3. In a way, the game got worse for me on how BL2 got worse for you. In fact, for me, it was the death of the franchise. To me, Borderlands was never about farming, but taking new items and combining them into something crazy. you could create builds with blue weapons. While OP levels did hurt the final peice of BL2, it only hurt if you tried to get to OP10. For the rest of the game, it was amazing and tons of endgame activities to do. BL3 had tons of endgame that was left to die in favor of mode that required the best gear, gear that would get nerfed into the ground every week. The DLC i never bought because they sold back the nerfs into new guns behind a paywall. Something BL2 never did because it instead opened new avenues of power. Theres was no new Pimpernail, no new sandhawk...they were powerful and unique when you got them. But mostly, BL3 was a show of Gearbox's colors because how tonedeaf they were to the community. Tiny Tina I left before they could go on a nerfing spree again but if there is a medal for worst endgame, its that because of all the reason's stated all leading to one thing: lost potential. A chamber locked away with some of the craziest DnD unbalanced ideas ever conceived by one of the unhinged minds in the franchise...done absolutely nothing with it, while nerfing everything into the ground and raising the not-OP-level level into the high heavens, making everything but legendaires useless and said legendaries having completely random item drop sources. Either way tho, I think BL2 did it best. Lost of build diversity and allowing random builds to exist as legendaries were not the end all be all. Also allowed of some weird items to make some of the best builds out there

You realize you dont have to play on op 10 right? Its all optional.

BL3, BL2 raid bosses were too spongey and restrictive. Unless you ran meta they were a total slog and next to impossible. BL3 strikes a much better balance compared to its peers and has many more options to pick from if you include the arenas.

I feel like people just don’t consider pre-sequel as a borderlands game for some reason

I skipped bl3 because of the main story

I enjoyed all 3 main games I have probably 100 hours in wonderlands as it was a UI nightmare 2000hr in 3 and 3000hr in 2 .. as of 2024 borderlands 2 is the only game the runs reliably for me even with the game heavily gibbed

Wow, I discovered a reasonable hardcore BL fan. I thought we were going extinct. Good video friend! Subbed to your channel.

didn't watch but its obviously borderlands 2, it just has way more stuff. wish bl3 didn't get abandoned, it definitely could have competed or even won the "endgame contest" with more dlcs and raidbosses.

For me bl3 has the best endgame out of all of them. Yeah bl2 had more raid bosses but unless you always had a group to play with, played as salvadore, had the top of top tier weapons or you put over 2 million hours into the game and know every raid down to the pixel, you’re pretty much just sticking to exploits and cheese which is just boring. In bl3 there’s no need to cheese even if you scale the raids to four player difficulty it’s balanced so much better to the point of a tough but fair challenge. And even if you didn’t want to do raids that fine too go do the seasonal content, knock out some slaughter maps, do some arms race runs, farm for god rolls, do some side quests, do some proving grounds. In bl2 if you didn’t want to do raids then besides farming or some DLCs there really isn’t much to do so the only way you’re gonna extend your playtime is starting a new character and doing it all over again. I spent a whole year as fl4k without ever feeling bored and only decided to play as another character last week. Bl2 is a great game but its endgame doesn’t hold a candle to 3s. It would if it was balanced better though.

My issues with BL3: Lack of good guns and it feels like build diversity struggles, depending on near or actual god rolls for end game content. Ive got an amazing Moze and Zane but it feels like even builds for specific gun makers are lackluster. Farming iridium is a little tedious and the important uses for it are really expensive versus the utility they provide. Paying 500 iridium for the one proper raid boss is annoying, especially when the drops can be pretty underwhelming. I also think if they had 2 more takedowns and 4-5 more proper raid bosses then the game would be amazing.

Bl2 hands down. BL3 is very boring to play through tho. Everything about it just feels repetitive. Especially starting over a new character. The entire feels like homework. If it wasn’t gameplay it would actually be a bad game