Which Canon Mirrorless Camera should you buy? 

I bought the r10 back in April as my first more serious camera and I've found it incredible, for videography too using a gimbal. Planning to get an r6 or something like so by 2024.

I just bought the R8, and it's out of this world 🌎 ❤

Tbh I am considering buying a camera, but sadly all that Canon offers is hot garbage, r7 has no buffer at all and everything looks sharper than it, the R6MII cant record while plug-in HDMI one or other, and the R8 has no IBIS and garbage battery, and only r5 and higher that can be used as an upgrade from 2018 R camera crazy how 6 years and still the whole R series are step down from the R $2,300 MSRP except off $3900 R5 and $4300 R5MII, inflation is crazy… and Canon are behind in the market so bad … (it is just my opinion)

They probably did it because Viltrox lenses are trash and they don’t want people using them and blaming the camera body for bad image quality. The worst lens I’ve ever owned was their 85mm 1.8 FE II. The anti flare coating was utter garbage and somehow worse than my Takumars from the 1960s.

@@projectgoatse LoL 😂 Nice joke 🤣

@@evgenykyselgov9533 not a joke. I’ve never been more disappointed in the performance of a modern camera lens.

Honestly the best advice I've heard

You could actually try the R8 quite nice step up upgrading virtually everything of your RP in the same body.

theres always ef lenses you can use with canon adapter.

@@truthseeker6804 Okay, where can I buy a Tamron 35-150mm f/2-f/2.8 for EF mount? Or the "companion" 17-35 f/2-f/2.8... Got the former for my Sony today, traded in my Canon gear

@@mbr5742 there’s always lenses to fulfill that range and aperture and there’s people who makes excuses

@@truthseeker6804 Nope. There is no single lens for CanNot that does. Well, there is for Sony so today 40+ years of Canon usage came to an end for me.

@@mbr5742 good bye then

Have you used any of those "plastic" RF primes? I own all of the RF non-L primes and they are all amazing, lightweight, super sharp wide open and AF is very good, in 85 2.0 could be better but it is not a sport lens, it is a lightweight portrait lens

@@pawebaran3601 well said.

@@pawebaran3601 I've tried the 35mm/50mm RF plastic at my local Canon dealer. The 50mm is amazing for $199 but nothing more. I've also tried the 50mm/f1.2 and while I had no optical complaints, I didn't enjoy the weight, the front-focusing design and the clicky AF noise in Servo AF. I don't know what it is, but I get picky with premium products at a certain price point. Here is the problem, there aren't many RF lenses I would highly recommend, as of today. Heck, there are so many prime lenses missing in a balanced lens line up. Again, personal opinion - I know. Competition would address some of those. Thanks to "competition" Canon finally came out with the Canon R and good cameras like the R3/R5/R6. Canon users would still be using their DSLR in 2022 if it wasn't for S**y. Competition drives innovation.

I love the adapter... I have an R6 and RP, and the only RF glass I own is the kit lens that came with my RP. I shot an airshow this past weekend with the R6 and an adapted Sigma 150-600 C and got some amazing shots.

I purchased the ef/rf nd filter adaptor considering I do outdoor stuff quite often and I had ef glass prior to buying an r6. I loving the results, system works great for me

It sounds great but it doesn't help Canon sell more RF glass if users are happy with adapted EF glass.

@@sosomelodies659 The RF glass is better. Canon have been holding baxk on the EF glass for several years.

@@nordic5490 eventually Canon will make RF glass for the consumer line and it won't be that great while still being pricier than third-party options.

+1 The R6 just makes things less blurry in the landscape if it’s windy, and the tripod weighs less than the Statue of Liberty…

You can also substitute your 8 ball with a bowling ball, but you’ll get thrown out of the bar

Lol I used to shoot with a 20D and nobody ever noticed

@@roodick85 You noticed

@@roodick85 i still keep my 20D on a shelf as a love relic, as it got me so many jobs, was printed in magazines and such. No one noticed 🙄

I use the A7RIV and it’s amazing, but could be a little better in low light. Still much better than my a6400. Id probably suggest the A7IV because a little better lowlight performance and still great resolution at 33MP rather than 61 on the RIV. For video the A7RIV is not much of an improvement at all from the a6000 series besides IBIS and full frame. (I know the R lineup is photo centric but it would have been nice to have the option of a higher fps 4K)

@@Perceptence Where can I buy a EF 35-150 f/2-f/2.8?

6000$ beginners???

You have a point LOL. They are not ALL $6000 though. Also, there are a lot of cashed-up people around these days, who just spend money on new hobbies hoping that'll make them good at whatever... Let them I say. It floods the market with cheaper second-hand gear when they give up 6mnths later. Which is great for you and me ;P@@P.E.J.

I have been doing photography for 3 years now and I only have a £80 Sony A200. The pictures it takes are still amazing for the price!

My first camera was a SONY Cybershot 5 mega pixels. Had a number of higher resolution point and shoots after, but never thought any were as good as my SONY. Currently shooting on a Fuji XT4, which is pretty incredible.@@jesphillips2193

Or just get an EF to RF adapter, loads of affordable lenses for the EF mount.

Hence I loved Canon cause the resell value great!

@@SonOfInfernum I did but it doesn't help with the Sigma 150-600 C lens... the adapter works but the lens has autofocusing issues. I have not seen adverse reports on other EF third party lenses yet but they may exist. Generally the EF Canon Lenses are superseded by the RF equivalent lens which are better so reviews suggest.

As Maxime said... just go EF RF adapter Did you get the 150-600 before or after the EOS R system? If you had it already... sure, thats annoying, but if you bought it after the camera....its totally your fault, especially if it was known already in the community. I dont see this problem as a huge dealbreaker.... just remap any button to AF-C/AF-S switching and go as good as possible for AF-S when its also just ok. I am using the RP and rely very much on AF-S in wildilfe because 5 fps is slow enough, i dont want like 2,5-3,5 fps because i need AF-C. Also since the RP doesnt have any animal detect thats pretty much im limited to. I just got a RF 800 F11 instead of the 150-600 sigma, i really struggled with this decision since i knew from the beginning i will rely a lot on AF-S anyways but for flying and moving birds i just needed reliable AF-C if i use it. I think the RF 800 and RF 600 F11 pretty much show: RF glass can be affordable, in fact even super affordable for its performance. Just some other examples you may know: RF 50mm 1.8 RF 85mm 1.8 RF 35mm 1.8 IS RF 24-105 non-L But yeah, I also try to avoid RF glass - the camera is just a charme with as much used as possible with the Meike RF EF filter adapter on it - just always protected sensor and all needed filters for EVERY EF lens! I got once a EF 100mm 2.8L Macro with broken stabilizer super cheap, repaired it and well, even if the stabilizer would have been unrepairable- Just SUPER VALUE! The thing is i guess... just use CANON (!!!) EF glass if possible, except for a super garbage lens (EF 75-300 IS USM) all my EF lenses perform better on mirrorless than they did on the DSLR! I cant really say much about 3rd party EF lenses AF performance since basically all my 3rd party EF gear is just manual focus, a telescope or has from the beginning trashy AF which im fine that it works at all on mirrorless.

@@harrison00xXx Great comprehensive comment, thanks. I had the 150 to 600 to use with my 5D mk IV before I got the R5... that's why I'm miffed about it. I have other rf glass but not the L series. I smile too 😊 as I have the 70 to 300 USM EF lens.... I found it was great focusing, very quick, but above 200mm it went off so my attempts at close ups of birds on say the opposite river bank were frankly unusable... but don't tell anyone as I hope to sell it on eBay. I bought the excellent 150 to 600 Sigma to replace the 70 to 300 USM. Oh well. Sony looks good but the rear tilt screen is pointless and a pain. (I had two A390 Sonys that also had annoying flip screens) Sony could advance if they had a flip twist out screen like Canons.

As a 100% Canon user I do 100% agree with this. I can not recommend a Canon mirrorless setup to anyone who needs to care about his gear budget at this point.

Tamron/Sigma etc should start producing cameras, competitive cameras.

@@mariusdan6147 Sigma does make cameras.

A note on adapters... Read your Canon warranty, Canon can void the warranty for use of unauthorized 3rd party products. And will your spiffy lens still work after the next firmware update? Will using it brick your camera? Nobody knows. I do hope Canon reconsiders this move.

Canon makes its money and profit on lenses. Cameras are a loss leader. They are currently making money hand over fist on their new RF lenses. This is good for them and the consumer. Canon not only makes a great camera, they make them so good that it would take a lot from someone else to make one nearly as good. But for those a little wiser, the EF-RF control ring adapter is perfect allowing the use great EF (and EF-S) lenses being traded in for more expensive glass while still maintaining the functionality. Personally I like the location of the control ring closer to the camera with the adapter. I haven't bought an RF lens yet for my EOS-R. I am tempted on some, but the EF glass available at comparatively bargain prices is good. I am also sharing these lenses with my APSC 90D. My 100-400/4.5-5.6IIL works great on both! I do hear the R7 siren calling though... Anyway, my R is a poor photographer's version of the 5D4, missing the second card slot, but with a great EVF system. I do love this camera! Favorite lens with it is the Canon 24-70/4 L IS.

Bullying? Pff, please. They simply didn't allow others to look at their new RF mount's tech. Plenty are reverse engineering. Canon is a business. They are doing fine without 3rd party lens support.

@derbagger22 correct why would Canon spend money on development and just give it away for free to third party. They didn’t need help developing lenses. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony comes out with new mount and no more third party support cause they know have to make good glass now

@@derbagger22 You clearly don't know what's happening. After 3rd party reverse engineered to provide lenses, Canon told them to stop. Now Samyang and Viltrox de-catalogged all RF lenses they already have. There are no Sigma and Tamron to begin with. Now we know why.

@@CO8848_2 Since I own a Samyang lens and have for a couple years, I know that wasn't an issue. If that's new, I stand corrected. However, I still don't feel it's worth switching a camera system because of that. If I could, I'd buy all RF glass. As it is, I enjoy buying used EF glass and adapting it...for now.

@@derbagger22 Maybe you should try Google sometimes, yeah? People use it, you know. On the flip side, your samyang probably is worth more now, given it is becoming a collector's item. To be clear, the manual focus lenses are still allowed, but AF lenses are gone.

Sony has Great support for third party lenses. Hundreds available now. Canon on the other hand will sue if 3rd parties try to make a compatible lens. 🤦🏻‍♂️ What a terrible brand decision.

theres quality lenses than third party would provide. and if you want affordable, theres ef lenses.

@@truthseeker6804 EF lenses don't even come close to the best 3rd party lens of today. Some Canon RF glass are mediocre, but there is no choice.

@@CO8848_2 which third party lens is better than its ef counterpart?

@@truthseeker6804 all the sigma art primes on DG DN are pretty much better than the EF, but you clearly have no clue about them.

@@joshualaird5303 but people want modern new lenses with the correct mount, not some adapted lens

@@richarddutchholland4780 Sony is killing it thanks to Tamron and Sigma options

Which is hardly a problem because Canon makes some of the best glass you can get and can mount a plethora of third party lenses in EF mount for those few unique lenses you can get. And right now there is almost zero in the way of third party lenses meant for mirrorless which aren't redundant already. And Canon is adding to the RF system rapidly.

@@johnrus7661 yes…very expensive lenses or very poor performing ones, “Way to go Canon”

theres always ef lenses you can use with canon adapter.

Sigma 150-600mm contemporary under 1k or sport 1,5k....

@@clueless3891 absolutly true. I own the Tamron 150-600 G2, which is pretty much the same and in many situations a decent solution. But the problem is the af, that just works unreliable. And then there is no point to buy the latest mirrorless body with amazing af when it is just working in 80% and 20% starts pumping and produces errors. Just returned from 20 day Safari and missed quite some animals/scenes due to the problems with the af. So the wild dogs and 2 leopards are just on the 6 year old bridge camera of my dad. In other situations where you get a 2. chance it is no problem at all.

EF adapter. Infinite possibilities. Including some pretty amazing EF L glass....

I personally (professionally) use an EF 100-400 mk 2 over the RF 100-500 because EF @ 400 is 5.6. RF @ 400 is 6.3. It's not AS sharp, but the color and light are a step better on the R5. That being said, the 100-400 RF is still a great lens and only $600. A few YTbers have used it for capturing birds in flight and have said it keeps up enough. I wouldn't expect it to be as battle ready and rugged as the L series glass, but it'll get the job done for under $1k

I ultimately went with the R6! R5 is a close second but I didn’t find the extra cost to be worth it for my needs.

@@christopherowens8313 The R6 is an excellent camera if it suits your needs! I personally like the R5's higher resolution to have more cropping options without losing quality. The viewfinder is also noticeably better. But it sure comes down to purpose and personal preference 🙂It's like choosing between two super cars.

Scammer ⬆️

the meike adapter also works great! one ND for all EF glass is amazing

why would you buy a canon body & put 3rd party lenses on it. I always thought high quality glass was most important

@@lovemycity420 options are important. Some third party glass is even better than first party glass, either when comparing for price or by equivalent lens model. Sometimes a given lens type is not available at all from a first party. Also, the availability of good third party options creates competition that forces the first party to make more useful lenses for better prices. Canon is being very anti-competitive recently and it is convincing a lot of users to go with Sony instead, which ultimately will be bad for Canon. Open and/or accessibly-licensed lens mounts are good for everyone; Canon's strategy here is short-sighted.

@@gabedamien I heard your argument, but I don’t agree. The biggest most valuable company in the world operates the same way(apple) people been crying saying exactly what you just said, but miraculously they dominate the market! Maybe your right, apple doesn’t know shit😭

And now with another amazing firmware update coming soon!

Why?

I don’t want to disappoint you but the 80d still after almost 5 years is still expensive AF so I’m expecting the r5 to hold its price for a long long time

@@Sorennn94 I am in no rush. The RP serves me well for landscape photography.

@@rlfisher trust me you’ve made the right choice ! The only disadvantage is the small battery but other than that it’s the best for the price

@@Sorennn94 Absolutely. I actually carry 2 Canon and 2 OEM batteries for cold weather. Another advantage is, with the L-bracket off and a fixed 35 or 59-ish lens, it is a dandy carry-around camera.

Love my 70D. Years later it still holds up tbh. But it is time for full frame. Almost went R6 but need me some sigma and tamron; A7iv it is

If you've got an M50, you can go anywhere. None of the lenses are compatible with the R bodies. Check out Tony and Chelsea's newest video on Canon banning 3rd party lenses, if you haven't already. If you're ready to ditch the M50, you should definitely check out the Sony and Nikon options - or even something like Lumix S, if you're going to do a lot of video.

@@hoodie3810 Tnx a lot for sharing your suggestions! I have some older lenses but it's not the use of them in the future that interest me the most, but which Canon camera is most suited for my photography. Or rather, I was interested in that. With Canon using its power to crush competition, I will, as you also suggest, change to another brand.

I still have my EOS 50E (same?) here (don't use it). I don't remember how much I used it, but it worked pretty well. But it only needed to cover a limited amount of AF points.

Try fujifilm. They do.

@@zedrickapollo4290 Can you be a little more specific? And I'm assuming your referring to a full frame.

@@zedrickapollo4290 What does Fujifilm have that no other manufacturer do?

@@veeaa Absolutely nothing.

Well if a world brand such as the big company of yonguo has something the rest can`t stay behind. Do they already have a great set of fast primes available.......

My experience is the Sony is ULTIMATELY no cheaper than Canon. But, best of luck 👍

It's futile!

@@nellatrab whattt???

Make sure to enjoy those 3rd party Nikon mirrorless lenses.......................

My Sigma 150-600 C has no issues on my R6.

Yeah, they want you to pay the premium prices. No thanks, for me.

There are a lot of Canon shooters using the 150-600mm on Canon EF bodies.... I have a lot of Canon products but can't recommend Canon's Rf system to them because of the problems with trying to use that lens. I once considered switching to Nikon and there was a program to change from Canon to Nikon mount due to the D850. You might see if they could change your mount to Nikon and use a converter but that might be cost prohibitive and Nikon only has one sports shooting camera as of today.

@@anthonyclements6020 I have the Canon 5D Mk IV and the Sigma 150-600 works just fine on that with the EF mount but the 5D doesn't have the Animal eye tracking and has a 32 megapixel sensor. I se no reason why the Sigma should not work on the R5 with Canons own RF ro EF adapter but it doesn't work 100%.leading to a lot of out of focus shots. Helping Sigma would be a nice gesture from canon as Sigma are not trying to reverse engineer an RF mount unlike Samyang and Viltrox. I think Canon are just being petty.

second hand ef lenses work really well on rf. or even new.

@@rokpodlogar6062 Adapting your existing EF lenses is one thing but buying a collection of additional EF lenses just to use them with an RF camera because of some political decision on Canon's side is just ridiculous.

@@2point7182818284590 well, that's one way of looking at it. the other would be, there is a bunch of people trying to unload ef lenses to switch fully to rf line and that could drive the prices down a bit. you only need to buy one ef2rf adapter and the difference in prices between rf and ef are quite a lot. i only bought 1 rf lens, the all around 24-105 and i'm still jusing my ef-s and ef lenses with both my dslr and the new rf. interestingly my third party tokina ef-s 11-16mm has no sensor crop limiter on my rf camera, only the physical vignetting, which is kind of cool. at 16mm it's still a 16 mm without the vignette.

@@rokpodlogar6062 I got that very same Tokina and my wife also said she likes that vignette when she saw it.

@@rokpodlogar6062 The one "budget" RF lens I can recommend is the 35 1.8. They are being sold on the used market also these days.

You’ll be waiting for the newer flagship after the new flagship…