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@VarsII
@VarsII Год назад
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@itz_moonwolf1480
@itz_moonwolf1480 Год назад
As many others have said, I think albedo should be A tier and ganyu should be lower. Albedo's skill can do upwards of 20k geo dmg every few seconds without too much investment over the course of up to 30 seconds with a 3 (i think) second cooldown. Plus you can use the elevator for exploration purposes as well as a place to shoot from without getting hit (in some situations)
@lumpianggulay5709
@lumpianggulay5709 Год назад
In addition to this, it consistently procs crystallize while rarely interrupting reaction auras making him fit any flex spot with ease. And 20k is very achievable as an f2p, going into 40-50k in dedicated geo teams. It's one of the more powerful sub-dps skills in terms of damage per cast time. Should be up in A tier with fischl.
@hatooniewoomy
@hatooniewoomy Год назад
Agreed, meanwhile ganyu's is just a taunt that moves her away While it isn't a bad ability, I do feel like albedo's flower is definitely A tier If ganyu's skill is so high on the list why aren't other taunt abilities there too then (eg. Itto) lmao
@mintsugas
@mintsugas Год назад
Agreeee
@GoldElias
@GoldElias Год назад
it being a geo construct sucks though i have him i pulled him for my noelle team as a battery but his construct just gets oneshot immediatly most of the time
@hatooniewoomy
@hatooniewoomy Год назад
@@GoldElias there's a reason it's a 3 second cooldown, you can constantly reposition it to suit your needs 😊
@icedkohionegai5194
@icedkohionegai5194 Год назад
A lot of these skills should be higher like Albedo's which is literally his whole being of purpose. Diona has a strong ass shield as well and Itto's E which is a really big chunk of his damage because he can do it twice per burst
@evanmcgouirk9315
@evanmcgouirk9315 Год назад
I just wish diona had a higher base hp. 8500 is not enough base hp.
@leshou907
@leshou907 Год назад
Yeah and Xinqiu skill should be 1 tier below because it has massive cooldown
@misc7446
@misc7446 Год назад
I do massively agree with Diona's skill. It is literally second best shield in the game (if I'm not mistaken), how could it be that low
@meowzers456
@meowzers456 Год назад
@@misc7446 nope, thoma's shield is second best
@deadshade442
@deadshade442 Год назад
Which doesn't work with childes e skills?
@Hiyee86
@Hiyee86 Год назад
9:51 Ayato can move with attacks during his skill 18:48 one of heizou’s passive allows you to cause a stack, whenever he causes a swirl reacton, which can happen every 0.1 or 0.2 seconds
@deadshade442
@deadshade442 Год назад
Passives ain't allowed
@snapedu9166
@snapedu9166 Год назад
18:52🙂
@emohat6998
@emohat6998 Год назад
@@deadshade442 sucrose’s passives were considered for her placement though?
@TiggoFfm
@TiggoFfm Год назад
@@deadshade442 It's the constellations on 5 stars he excluded for obvious reasons
@ilEagle3696
@ilEagle3696 Год назад
@@deadshade442 they are
@zachtemoro2116
@zachtemoro2116 Год назад
I feel like you’re very undervaluing how good Eula’s skill is. Not many DPS characters have the ability to Debuff enemies with their skills, and it almost acts like a mini burst with Ascension Talents. Yes her energy isn’t a problem but her Normal Attack DPS isn’t bad by any means, so stacking her own Debuff on top of Superconduct makes her a powerhouse
@keo549
@keo549 Год назад
20k autos gang, the only reason her burst missing "annoys" me is because even bigger big number gives brain happy chemicals (and because abyss is timed)
@zachtemoro2116
@zachtemoro2116 Год назад
@@keo549 all of your reply I agree with it lmao 20K auto’s are satisfying too
@jordanmarco7137
@jordanmarco7137 Год назад
Exactly, a lot of times what I’m fighting is dead before the burst goes off because her skill hold killed them
@FakingGold
@FakingGold Год назад
Finally got a good goblet just last week and im so happy seeing just a continuous stream of 18k-21k dmg
@musanetesakupwanya1050
@musanetesakupwanya1050 Год назад
Very good point.
@danisetsuna8312
@danisetsuna8312 Год назад
you're wrong about ayato - his skill has a bigger AoE than many people know and it's not stationary, when you move it targets the enemies around you in a pretty big aoe, I've never experienced moving enemies to be a problem with him at all. That also makes him an excellent taser driver and dps About albedo i believe you rated him too low, his skill is really strong, has a huge aoe and really shines with 4 pc husk, Gorou and cinnabar spindle
@workinprogress8978
@workinprogress8978 Год назад
Completely Agree on Ayato. One of my favourite Hydro Units. My two main teams for Abyss 12 are Raiden National and Ayato Fischl Electro-charged with Kazuha/Venti. So strong and great for large groups of mobs and still good for bosses.
@danisetsuna8312
@danisetsuna8312 Год назад
@@workinprogress8978 nice! He is my main and I use him in Abyss all the time. He and fischl are amazing + Kazuha. I think he shouldn't be put that far behind childe in the list bc even though childe has international and riptide, Ayato is so good in taser, - they have different uses
@workinprogress8978
@workinprogress8978 Год назад
@@danisetsuna8312 he honestly also works good in Freeze. When needed I use him with Ayaka, Ganyu, and Venti. After using Ganyu's burst and skill I use his burst (if available) then gather all the mobs with Venti and let loose with Ayaka's burst before switching back to Ayato to use his skill and apply hydro and do damage with his normal attacks
@danisetsuna8312
@danisetsuna8312 Год назад
@@workinprogress8978 love the ayato freeze team too! I use kazuha cause I don't have Venti. But pairing ayaka and Ganyu with ayato is so much fun and I don't have to pull Kokomi because of it Same, the most fun part is slashing with Ayato inside of ayaka's burst and those sound effects
@workinprogress8978
@workinprogress8978 Год назад
@@danisetsuna8312 all we need now is a dendro healer with good dendro application and the Ayato Fischl Dendro Venti/Kazuha hyperbloom team would be perfect. Crossing fingers for Nahida or Baizhu
@cl0k3
@cl0k3 Год назад
Kokomi's E is probably top, it provides the AOE hydro application that makes her so good in freeze, the healing is some of the best, and no ICD
@icedkohionegai5194
@icedkohionegai5194 Год назад
Exactly, to put Ganyu's E with Kokomi's is absurd
@serulu3490
@serulu3490 Год назад
@@icedkohionegai5194 ganyu's E is maximum C tier
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Год назад
I think A is the right place for it, for two reasons. First, it needs the burst to have 100% uptime. Second, even with the use of the burst, it is tied to one location per cycle. That said, it definitely is better than Ganyu's E, by an order of magnitude, and also superior to Raiden's.
@icedkohionegai5194
@icedkohionegai5194 Год назад
@@Axterix13 But in comparison to the rest which is what tier lists are supposed to be for - Kokomi's skill is the best at what it does. It definitely deserves to be in S, her kurage is literally her entire being at this point, with some only ever using her burst just to refresh CD
@zoror1394
@zoror1394 Год назад
@@icedkohionegai5194 Yes! I only use her burst to refresh Kurage cd!
@debamchakraborty1143
@debamchakraborty1143 Год назад
I would honestly switch Albedo and Ganyu's positioning itto should also be higher since his E is basically a mini version of Zhongli Q. Heizou should also be higher, the stacks are automatically generated when he swirls and he swirls pretty fast with his CA
@ziebus904
@ziebus904 Год назад
Not to mention in half of ganyus teams e is worthless and even less
@camiorkami
@camiorkami Год назад
fr and xingqui should be lower Sara higher KEQING maybe higher ayato higher chongyun higher gorou lower and Childe lower imo
@camiorkami
@camiorkami Год назад
@@ziebus904 Exactly this man's tier lists are sometimes so wrong it's not funny
@itz_andi9691
@itz_andi9691 Год назад
@@camiorkami tbh ayato and childe are kinda in the same place, id put both together in either s or a teir
@nd6096
@nd6096 Год назад
@@itz_andi9691 nah, childe has one more thing in his skill, riptide which literally scales quadratically and the reason he has the highest hydro application in game, he got three sources of hydro after using his elemental skill (normal attack, Charged attack, Riptide), while ayato's is just normal attack. Also Childe's skill duration is manually done unlike Ayato's 6 second uptime which makes him better with Xiangling because he can adjust his hydro application uptime with xianglings long pyronado, Ayato's runs out faster. This is why Childe's vape team is stronger
@librashooter
@librashooter Год назад
If you put Gorou on A because he buff geo team, then Shenhe also should be put at A because she massively buff cryo dmg output
@davepatois297
@davepatois297 Год назад
Cryo teams aren't as relient on a shenhe boost as geo teams are of gorou
@sugoidude7823
@sugoidude7823 Год назад
Gorou is an unlimited 4*, Shenhe is a limited 5*. Gorou is the sole reason many geo teams work at all, Shenhe only acts as a nice buff for cryo but is absolutely not mandatory.
@mrmiguel_00
@mrmiguel_00 Год назад
@@sugoidude7823 the chance of getting a Gorou in the standard banner is super low there’s all the four star weapons and characters you can possibly get as well, he’s not unlimited, I’ve played this game since launch and only have a C3 Sara, C4 Gorou, and a C1 Thoma, and I pulled on every limited banner since launch
@godogeman6466
@godogeman6466 Год назад
@@mrmiguel_00 exactly you pull on every banner whereas if you saved your primo and prioritize rolling on the banner of the characters you want your chance of getting them is increased. But still there’s rng involve since I’m still c1 gorou and already c1 itto 😭
@mrmiguel_00
@mrmiguel_00 Год назад
@@godogeman6466 true but what I meant when I said I pull on every banner is that I pull for the event 5 star, it’s more likely that I get a C1 5 Star then I do a c6 4 star in a single banner
@michaskrzypczak3262
@michaskrzypczak3262 Год назад
Heizou’s skill is pretty much never charged. You get one stack by default from constellation and other stacks through swirls (NA+CA is two swirls so you get to full stacks easily, you can for example NA+CA+burst). Then it deals 50-100k dmg and swirls as a bonus. It’s like Itto’s Ushi that doesn’t need to use burst to be Effective but does require a bit of fieldtime
@sergiovergaramontemiranda2116
No a problem tbh. Heizou is fun and powerful to having him on field while the others skill go off coldown its easy
@Mnethn
@Mnethn Год назад
Lots of misinformation here like others have commented, but a lot of valuations are kind of weird, too. Eula's hold skill on it own does more damage than many characters' bursts, but it's rated low for some reason. At level 10 it does 788% cryo and 363% physical damage in a decent area, as well as shredding physical and cryo res.
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC Год назад
EXACTLY. It's honestly infuriating & it's strange how bad some of these rankings are.
@kale1287
@kale1287 Год назад
His videos are honestly getting shittier by the day. It’s clear he has a lack of understanding basic character mechanics and forces in false information to fit whatever narrative he tries to push.
@dariosaviors
@dariosaviors Год назад
After all his based and solid videos, I can’t help with thinking it’s on purpose. I mean we all need to pay bills, but to trigger viewers for more visibility, comments, that’s simply not for me. There’s plenty of them. Unsubscribed. Everyone has its right to have an opinion but here there are really macroscopic and objective errors. I main Eula since her first banner and agree. It’s a fuckin mini nuke, boosting DEF, resistance to interruption, and def and res shred. What in the world he wants a skill to do more than this? Ayato stationary? I don’t even have him and yet I know his skill targets and follows enemies while slashing. But the best is with Yae! In burst tier list: “Burst meh, it destroys totems” and same tier with Fischl, basically a skill refresh vs a >200K nuke. In skill tier list: “At the end of the day, you just place them to use burst”. Besides the fact that Sesshou Sakura is the core of Yae kit.. dude wtf? But Yae is still a polarizing characters, perfect for trolling, feeding and triggering. At least Tectone is funny, sometimes intentionally, mostly unintentionally.
@urplepantherurplepanther4359
@@dariosaviors i think its because he spends a lot more time playing league than genshin. watch the videos of him pulling; he doesnt even know what the characters do, he just spends money for views.
@siegelmester
@siegelmester Год назад
You're right. I feel like this guy just read the skill description of some characters without trying out the skill himself.
@workinprogress8978
@workinprogress8978 Год назад
Ayato slowly moves towards the enemies he is targeting while using his skill and his skill has a surprisingly large AOE. You don't usually have to worry about enemies being too far away most of the time. I think it deserves a bump to at least the top of A Tier if not the bottom of S tier.
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 Год назад
His E is S tier. Its literally the majority of what makes him so good.
@workinprogress8978
@workinprogress8978 Год назад
@@pfortunato78 I love Ayato
@alejandrotorres9913
@alejandrotorres9913 Год назад
You didn't read Heizou's whole kit and it shows. He gets one stack per swirl reaction with his first passive and you can swap him out and he will still conserve the stacks. With C1 just getting him out grants 1 stack... All in all, getting the 4 stacks without ever holding E is just the normal. And if you do it right, its basically a 50-60k hit every 10 seconds. Nothing to laugh about. In my opinion is even better than Ayaka's skill, so top of A tier seems like a better fit in my opinion
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC Год назад
This applies to MANY characters he ranked. Like a third of them are completely misplaced.
@gl1tchspectre_
@gl1tchspectre_ Год назад
I've been seeing consistent 80k hits from well-built Heizous a lot. Honestly, he's one of the few 4 stars often called a 5 star in disguise because his skill is a nuke. Heizou has been a beloved main dps of mine since his release and it's so wild to see people think he's mid tier because either they use him like Kazuha or they think they have to hold his skill every time he's on field because they can't read ig? It's on par with nuke burst characters sometimes, only you don't have to worry about energy. Tbh I'd say high A or lower S.
@centrifeudal9966
@centrifeudal9966 Год назад
I 100% agree to this. Especially since Heizou benefits so well from units like Xingqiu, Yelan, and Fischl so he's naturally going to get those swirls anyways. My Heizou easily crits for 120k+ and that's without C6, which he said we're assuming all of the 4 stars are in the purpose of this video
@debamchakraborty1143
@debamchakraborty1143 Год назад
Considering that most characters E is just a mean to generate energy particle like benneth, Thoma with nothing note worthy about it, I wonder how they should be rated since even though their E is just 'ok' it serves its purpose well. I believe 50-60% of characters comes under this category.
@keo549
@keo549 Год назад
If the burst one is to go by Guoba is high because xiangling. Bennett is high because Bennett. Xingqiu is high because Xingqiu Or he took some of the critique and actually see them in a vacuum like he said he would in that vid, we won't know that till it premieres, but I hope he did (yes I'm still annoyed about Fischl's ranking being too high when her burst by itself and not counting the Oz reset is extremely bad)
@Succubus_Loli
@Succubus_Loli Год назад
Most character's E is only used to gen energy? Is this true? So I don't need to level up E then? Since the cool down is the same anyway right?
@drakensgreed2350
@drakensgreed2350 Год назад
@@Succubus_Loli It's straight up wrong. Off-field Kokomi for example is exclusively used for her E and her Q is only used to extend her E's duration.
@popsikern5848
@popsikern5848 Год назад
@@drakensgreed2350 Yeah. Fischl is used almost exclusively for Oz, Yae's burst is useful because it resets her skill which is her main form of off-field electro damage, Ayato without his skill would basically be useless as his skill is his main form of attack, Kuki's main form of off field electro damage is her skill, in a proper itto rotation, using albedo's burst is literally a dps loss, zhongli is used almost entirely due to his skill's shield, etc.
@JohnJillky
@JohnJillky Год назад
DPS Bennett: 😔
@Porfonto
@Porfonto Год назад
i think these kinds of videos would benefit from Vars researching in depth for characters he doesn't play regularly. maybe visit the subreddit for each character mains and talk to the users there, look up guides and build showcases or maybe just call up a friend who has a character Vars doesn't build in a fairly competent usage state and talk to them more. maybe using sources of videos or showing the description of the skill/burst can help? maybe there wouldn't be so much people unsatisfied with these kinds of videos then.
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC Год назад
1,000,000% He's all over the place, making biased rankings & forgetting how impactful some skills & or constellations are for 4-Stars.
@MrJavilink
@MrJavilink Год назад
Hard agree. He just ignored amber, lisa, aloy, trav, qiqi, etc.
@breezyfeer
@breezyfeer Год назад
Exactly. I was willing to let slide some tiny mistakes but at the end he said that Qiqi's elemental skill doesn't heal and that is simply not true and just lazyness to actually read the skill and understand the character a little bit. That skill has two ways of healing, a passive tic and when Qiqi damages enemies when the skill is active (that has nothing to do with the seals she summons with her passive/ult)
@arifyi.8422
@arifyi.8422 Год назад
@@breezyfeer Like he said at the start: its solely for fun omg. Why are you guys so pissed
@sensibleDuck893
@sensibleDuck893 Год назад
I think there are several skill you heavily underrated. Albedo's skill is atleast A tier since its high dmg and is off field without any energy issues. Yae's skill after introduction of Aggravate is also very strong dmg source again without any energy issues and being off field again deserves atleast A tier(not S since its somewhat clunky due to no ) Whereas Ganyu's skill you ranked so high is literally bottom of B tier since its dogshit and ranking it so high just for Taunt ability when it doesn't even has good scaling.(Itto's Ushi , Heizou E , Jean E etc all have more scaling and Utility than it) Diona E is also A tier since its a great battery and provides a strong shield and also increased movement speed. Kuki's skill after Hyperbloom introduction is like single best skill to procc Hyperbloom which deserves atleast high B tier.
@thegreatBarbossa
@thegreatBarbossa Год назад
I was surprised albedos E was that low, since it's basically the main reason he works so well. One downside I could see is that it requires you to do damage in order to proc it, meaning it becomes kinda useless against shielded enemies but the damage it does deal more than makes up for it. I'd also argue that the fact that it's Geo damage is also a benefit since it won't really interfere with other reactions. It's also got amazing up time which means you'll not only always have it on field but due the insanely low cd you can easily reposition it. Albedo is kinda just a character you slot in for extra off field damage anyway and the damage it does deal is really impressive (~30k per hit if you build him well). I don't think it should be like S tier but definitely high A.
@sureyeah3678
@sureyeah3678 Год назад
his comment on "it would've been better if its anything but Geo" is so wrong it's not funny it would generally steal any aura you preserve for the DPS.
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 Год назад
@@sureyeah3678 Yeah, and yet Yae is another element and he put her RIGHT HERE next to him
@tetept4
@tetept4 Год назад
@@kawaiimika7974 right now? emerge
@cloudyasteriks
@cloudyasteriks Год назад
tbh, the dmg proc thing is more of an upside. Chars like bediou and xq who's ults only proc on NA become less viable with chars who depend on CA and on chars like Xiao, Yae etc. Albedo and Raiden proc on dmg which means they can be used as effective sub ups chars for literally ANYONE in the game, making them more flexible. And the shield thing is ofc an issue but tbh geo isn't very effective against shield to begin with so you probably wont rely on it to break the shield if he didn't proc on dmg he wouldn't be usable on Xiao even though those two currently are an amazing pair
@snapedu9166
@snapedu9166 Год назад
I believe that kuki shinbu skill is very good ,It heals ,apply electro, follows the active character has no down time, and has a nice aoe .it's super useful and she never left my team since I got her 💜💜
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623 Год назад
yes and now with spread shes even better
@snapedu9166
@snapedu9166 Год назад
@@vaggeliskapsiotis7623 true 🤭🤭its literally a flat dmg buff on her kit so now she can do a good chunk of aggravate dmg for a healer and fill a niche of being a hyperbloom electro character and she dose it really well with all her aoe skills
@vans2548
@vans2548 Год назад
also, very enjoyable in coop
@snapedu9166
@snapedu9166 Год назад
@@vans2548 seeing everyone gathering around u for heals feels heart warming 💓
@deepindigo1937
@deepindigo1937 Год назад
Also has useful scalling since she gets healing and damage from Em so You get her whole value from a single stat.
@chicksyt8570
@chicksyt8570 Год назад
Albedo’s skill being a B tier is not what I expected. It’s periodic geo damange (mind you, AoE damange unlike Fischl or Yae) every 2 seconds. It is locked in a specific area but that area is almost as large as that of Ganyu’s burst and you can easily reposition it because of its super short cd. It has 100% uptime, the damange is pretty good and easy to increase (since def rolls on artifacts are more common than atk rolls) and doesn’t interfere with your reactions since it’s geo dmg. Good for exploration too although not as reliable as Kazuha’s or Venti’s skill since it’s slower and doesnt work if there is anything above you. The only downside is that it’s a geo construct, meaning it can be destroyed and replacing it constantly can mess up your rotation, especially for a dps that needs to stay on field (Hu Tao of Itto for example), but that can be somewhat dealt with by placing it a bit further from the enemy
@sugarcoatt_
@sugarcoatt_ Год назад
YESS THIS ^^
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 Год назад
Albedo's skill should be A tier. It would be S tier if it didn't get smashed by so many different enemy attacks.
@anyanP
@anyanP Год назад
it can mess up your reactions, but iirc it ususally not that bad
@Lynemn
@Lynemn Год назад
I think Vars underestimate the relevance of off-field damage application from E skills. C6 Amy has one of the best E skills in the game even without using her burst to extend its duration. And Sakura's turrets are at least two rankings higher than Razor's single hit damage skill in the same element. Basically Albedo should be A tier, Amy and Sakura S tier (since their skills deal damage AND apply elemental reactions, unlike the objectively inferior crystalize reaction, plus they don't get destroyed as geo constructs do).
@Xpoint01
@Xpoint01 Год назад
Great video. But there are a lot of information that you got wrong Ayato can move during his elemental skill state. Rosaria only generate particles on her 2nd hit. So there's no half amount of energy if only the first hit connects. Qiqi skill can heal the active character over time, and when she's the active character while the skill is active, performing normal attacks allow it to heal the party. So technically it still provides massive healing even without the help of the passive.
@BladenotRacist
@BladenotRacist Год назад
I think he forgot many things about the characters he put low tier
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC Год назад
@@BladenotRacist You're not just thinking it, he did. He's too biased & uninformed. He put Xiangling on the same Tier as Albedo & Yae Miko! He also put (remember, C6 for 4-Stars) Lisa on the same Tier as Amber. 💀 Ganyu/Xingqui in A-Tier with Kokomi, Yoimiya & Ayato. Not to mention he literally says things that aren't true. (Ayato skill making him stationary. Heizou not gaining stacks with his passive, which isn't even including his 6 cons)
@julianfgarcia1174
@julianfgarcia1174 Год назад
Not to be really rude or aggresive but a lot of the information about some of these skills is incorrect. Like Ayato’s skill does not really scale for his HP or force him to remain in place. Yomiya doesn’t get any bonus attack from her skill conversion. And as much as I hate Qiqi her skill should actually be in C tier if you are going to rate Barbara’s skill that high. She has 4 ways of consistent healing effects 2 of which are based on her skill. Passive dot healing to you active character based on her attack and party wide healing if Qiqi is on field normal attacking none of which are based on a passive skill. Nothing super crazy just little things that kind of throw off the information.
@sofacoin
@sofacoin Год назад
YoiYoi doesn't get any bonus *attack*, but while her skill's active, her normal attacks deal (assuming talent rank 10) 161.7% damage - which is pretty equivalent to a 60% attack buff
@nd6096
@nd6096 Год назад
to be fair barbaras skill applies hydro on enemies which can be useful in freeze comps but off field cryo application isnt that useful
@julianfgarcia1174
@julianfgarcia1174 Год назад
Barbara’s skills also at unlocks you with the wet status which is awe full cause a lot of enemy attacks and mess you up then. Cryo freezes you, electro stun locks you, and pyro attacks get multiplied frick ton.
@vans2548
@vans2548 Год назад
Vars: _Babe it's time for your weekly Genshin Debate_ Community: _Yes dear_
@April2x
@April2x Год назад
Putting Yae Miko's skill, which defines her whole character, her signature weapon, her artifact sets and her entire playstyle in the same tier as Razor really got a hearty chuckle outta me! Truly one of the funniest comedy channels out there
@yuakim
@yuakim Год назад
Her skill feels a LOT worse to use however, plus what does Yae do that Fischl or even Raiden can't do
@ancalyme
@ancalyme Год назад
@@yuakim No it doesn't, it feels smooth in the right team (like with Tighnari where she has ample time to cast her turrets).
@dariosaviors
@dariosaviors Год назад
In his previous vid he did put Yae burst on the same tier as Fischl one, a nuke vs a skill refresh. Definitively biased. We all know Yae has her flaws (and every character has his caveats..), but this guy probably never played Yae or has …skill issues. edit, @Yuakim: yeah but.. no. Raiden is condionally triggered by attacks and single target, while Fischl is unconditional but single target. So, to answer your question, Yae skill is unconditional and multitarget.
@VFal131
@VFal131 Год назад
@@yuakim just say you have skill issue. what cons do we wanna compare?
@FM-on4mx
@FM-on4mx Год назад
@@yuakim A well built yae can do pretty much triple the damage fishcl can do per turret hit and you can place 3 of them. Raiden E is not for her damage so her comparison is fishcl, you trade damage for particle generation. People really underestimate yae off field damage, I think she with albedo are the supreme off field free damage characters and with dendro, Yae got even stronger and it’s not hard to see her hit 50k per hit on aggravate teams. Yae skill should be at least A tier because of the sheer amount of damage she can do.
@VeraExora
@VeraExora Год назад
About Ayato, I do think you're wrong. I'm pretty sure you can move a decent distance from the cast location and go right back into Anime Slashing.
@isemihlenonqane1843
@isemihlenonqane1843 Год назад
You can actually move away from were you casted his skill and slash an enemy that would be perhaps behind you too. It's not a stationary skill is what I mean
@Chopsparillo
@Chopsparillo Год назад
You could run all the way around the map if you wanted. The only thing his E locks is the original placement of his water clone that explodes after awhile.
@SailorMusicCat
@SailorMusicCat Год назад
You can move however you want.(And Ayato himself actually moves if you just keep holding the attack button towards the enemy he's targeting) The only thing that is stationary about his skill? His water clone. That's it.
@mikkolaki24
@mikkolaki24 Год назад
To be honest, this is one of the worst tierlists I have ever seen. Kokomi should be higher as her synergy with most of the teams is due to her high uptime in her E. Fischl drives so many characters due to her E alone, and nobody cares about her Q. Ayato and Yoimiya has a large amount of damage in their E. Ganyu and Ayaka should be lower as their E is not the most used, compared to their better parts of their kit such as their charged shot and E. They provide a lot of particles though, similar to how Bennet is. Yae's entire kit revolves around the use of her totems, and most damage potential and uptick of electro damage from this. She deserves at least A tier. Albedo's E is very versatile. If you considered Yelan's E for her versatility, why not consider Albedo as it also helps in terrain and provides sizable damage in an area. I think I'm disappointed at the least.
@Neisse
@Neisse Год назад
Ganyu yes, but Ayaka's E buffs her NA and CA damage by 30%, so you're required to use it after setting everything up to maximize her damage on her basic attacks
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623 Год назад
what he said abt ayato not movins is clearly showing me that he has never played him ayato will move foward towards enemies in his skill so that the slashes can hit him
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623 Год назад
*them
@ilEagle3696
@ilEagle3696 Год назад
Now im wondering when this video was recorded because Heizou's skill seems really low. His first passive allows him to charge his stacks by doing swirl reactions so if you have someone like XQ or Raiden, you can get them pretty easily. when crowned with C6, his E deals 1208.7% damage with full stacks plus, he gets 16% CR and 32% CD with max stacks which makes it more consistent and more capable of even more damage. His seconds passive also allows him to support his party by giving 80EM after his E hits
@keo549
@keo549 Год назад
It was recorded the day before dendro released, he states it in the vid He just has a whole lot of misconceptions, which are glaringly obvious in both his tier lists (they also quite clearly were recorded close to each other, as he got a lot of critique during the last one and still did the same sort of mistakes in this one)
@draethdarkstar9917
@draethdarkstar9917 Год назад
I usually respect your opinions and don't think you miss much, but your take on Albedo and Yae Miko's elemental skills has me suddenly questioning if you actually understand the subdps role at all. These are both easily A if not S tier skills with substantial DPS from off field
@yaemikoshandler
@yaemikoshandler Год назад
he says that childe is on of the best main dps I think that says enough
@yaemikoshandler
@yaemikoshandler Год назад
Onfield element applier ≠ Main dps
@draethdarkstar9917
@draethdarkstar9917 Год назад
@@yaemikoshandler That is technically true in theory, but only under impossible circumstances. Huge number of tightly grouped enemies that aren't in Venti burst makes Riptide very powerful on paper, it just never happens like that in the actual game.
@sureyeah3678
@sureyeah3678 Год назад
Edit: there is no fucking way, Ganyu skill is on top of A tier when there are: Albedo and Fischl under it. Even i think Ushi is better, he can deal bigger dmg than Zhongli meteor Diluc maybe a B or low A tier, but his skill got to be an A to S tier. reason? it has no ICD, can chain 3 times, short cooldown, even if you switch the chain didn't reset, and good enough scaling to back it up.
@mojtabaamiri8104
@mojtabaamiri8104 Год назад
Himself is a solide A tier
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 Год назад
Yeah what a great skill it is. It summons a stupid pillar that you can get stuck on constantly and that blocks you projectiles
@sureyeah3678
@sureyeah3678 Год назад
@@kawaiimika7974 I think you reply to the wrong commment
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 Год назад
@@sureyeah3678 EWPSIE DEWPSIE! I probably clicked the wrong one accidentally. My bad XD
@jax1670
@jax1670 Год назад
Can Attest to this, Having access to a skill that has upwards of 500% Multiplier divided into 3 casts with 0 icd is insane value
@Aurora-kn9fu
@Aurora-kn9fu Год назад
Qiqi's Skill is the easiest S Tier Reason: 50% downtime with a 30 second cool down, what more can you ask for
@yououttapocket
@yououttapocket Год назад
Sac sword qiqi is goated
@snapedu9166
@snapedu9166 Год назад
Don't forget small aoe and no partcels SSS Tier for sure
@deadshade442
@deadshade442 Год назад
Seriously? healing based on her passive, no energy generation, no good damage . Do you people even know what we need in the game?
@milkyy4168
@milkyy4168 Год назад
@@deadshade442 it’s a joke
@FreneticPotato
@FreneticPotato Год назад
@@deadshade442 Looks like someone wants another Qiqi, hmm? I mean, just look at that glowing praise you just said. May Qiqi forever spook your pulls, even on guarantee friend! You honestly deserve it.
@Coppersulfate81
@Coppersulfate81 Год назад
I feel like you make these videos with minimal thought… yae’s e does more than just periodical damage, her whole idea is mobility. She can easily move towards and away from enemies while setting up a constant source of damage. Albedo’s e easily does 20k damage every 2 seconds and doesnt interrupt any reactions. Ganyu’s skill is the most useless part of her kit since it doesnt work on bosses that have attacks with huge range, and you can easily keep a distance from smaller mobs. Itto’s e is a decoy and a nuke during burst so why isnt he in the same tier as ganyu? Childe’s e is only good for xiangling and yelan’s is only superior when it comes to exploration. It just all seems biased
@telzen8774
@telzen8774 Год назад
Yup, Yae and Albedo should both be at least A tier.
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC Год назад
100% There's so much more that you didn't even mention, but I think that in-itself says A LOT. I do enjoy his content, but these "Tierlists" he makes are genuinely horribly thought-out, he isn't even familiar with all the characters he's ranking & straight up misses some details ENTIRELY.
@nd6096
@nd6096 Год назад
childe's skill is fine where it is, Childe's skill is riptide which scales quadratically which means tons of aoe damage and which also makes him the fastest hydro application in game because you are getting three sources of hydro application after using his E. The only other sources of quadratic scaling dmg needs burst which is ayato and Ganyu's burst + venti burst and even those have a limit on emeies. Childe's riptide has no limit for enemies and doesnt need burst or much special conditions
@luuk7daan
@luuk7daan Год назад
Honestly, rating Shenhe's skill in the same tier as Xiangling tiers seems soo odd. Guoba is just there, doing a little bit of pyro damage in a small area which enemies can get away from. Meanwhile Shene gives a boost to either Normal and charged attacks or skill and burts damage. Plus it gives a huge boost to any cryo damage. It is a huge part of her identity as a cryo buffer. But I guess since Xiangling is S tier her skill must also be.
@8niidle13
@8niidle13 Год назад
What you said about Ayato is wrong, he can move and continue his attack there, and he also automatically moves slightly towards enemies with each slash if they're too far away, which is very convenient. In addition, he's one of the few melee characters who has enough reach/aoe to hit flying enemies, enemies on pillars or even enemies inside venti's burst with no problem. It's why I think his E is definitely on par with Hu Tao and Yoimiya and should be in S tier.
@workinprogress8978
@workinprogress8978 Год назад
I didn't even think about his vertical AOE. You're right! I annihilate the flying Ruin Drakes without even having to shoot their wings because of Ayato. Definitely S tier skill.
@Rachitdubey
@Rachitdubey Год назад
Heizou gets stacks just by playing (swirling to be precise) so you don't need to stand and wait.
@Ray-ii2kv
@Ray-ii2kv Год назад
If Shenhe's skill isn't in A tier because it only applies to cryo damage, then why is Gorou in A tier?
@warrencaelum9536
@warrencaelum9536 Год назад
because gorou's skill has more supportive capabilities than an atk buff? he can resist intteruption, give defense boost and give elemental bonus dmg.
@ilovecamie
@ilovecamie 11 месяцев назад
​@@warrencaelum9536shenhe doesn't buff attack.... her buff SCALES off of her attack
@yaemiko8571
@yaemiko8571 Год назад
😬😬😬😬 Ayato's skill is not stationary, Venti's skill has a tap mode which has a shorter cast time which is mostly used in combat while the one you mentioned in the video is the hold version which is mostly used for exploration. It's also quite interesting that you put a character's skill in a tier for damage yet put albedo in a lower tier yet his skill does a huge damage and is consistent. While i think qiqi's kit is not well designed what you said in the video is kinda off, Qiqi's skill does not require a talisman to heal, it passively heals the on field character. I love your videos but this might be your worst genshin video yet as it shows how little knowledge you actually have of some of the characters.
@smaragdusjadeite
@smaragdusjadeite Год назад
Yeah, same goes for Heizou. I think if he's counting other parts of a character's kit to be part of their elemental skill then he should count in the fact that Heizou can gain his declension stacks from swirling with NA's/burst rather than him just standing there for a long time holding his E
@yagmurugur9904
@yagmurugur9904 Год назад
he has always been this way imo. i cant help but compare his character guide videos to other content creators like zyox and iwintolose who actually do a ton of math and testing. vars' guides have always been relatively lacking. i dont find his content reliable unfortunately. i do really like his why noone plays series though.
@yaemiko8571
@yaemiko8571 Год назад
@@yagmurugur9904 oh yeah i actually find his "why no one plays series" quite entertaining too. And sameeeeee i really like iw2l and zyox guides also sevy's coz her guides are very very easy on the ears. Those are the only three genshin guides i think is worth watching as others tend to add a lot of alien mathematics or overhyping a character etc. The three content creator i mentioned just tell you how it is no sugar no bs.
@CoolMintMC
@CoolMintMC Год назад
"I love your videos but this might be your worst genshin video yet as it shows how little knowledge you actually have of some of the characters" THIS; SO MUCH. It's honestly embarrassing how biased he is & he doesn't even realize it. You shouldn't make a tierlist if you don't know half of the characters in-depth (& don't use them) as well as working with a LOT of pre-conceived notions. For example; he put Xiangling in B-Tier when her skill is C-Tier AT BEST. Mind you he also put Albedo in B-Tier when he's A-Tier AT WORST. He's all over the place, tbch. Don't even get me started on how he blatantly ignores some 4-Stars constellations entirely.
@yaemiko8571
@yaemiko8571 Год назад
@@CoolMintMC i 100% agree with you in xiangling's case....the only thing guoba is good for is to start a fire so we can cook 🤣
@lanzcarisma2553
@lanzcarisma2553 Год назад
Skills that can be used for combat and overworld deserves to be an S tier like Kazuha and Zhongli's. Not sure if it's counted but Tighnari's charged attack can track chests close by.
@jeshu5073
@jeshu5073 Год назад
wait what did you say? track damn thats goood
@oygemprime3864
@oygemprime3864 Год назад
Tighnari's charged attack can what???
@seki2059
@seki2059 Год назад
Yes, it can track chests. I tried it in Sumeru city lately. Thanks to his CA, I easily can found precious and luxurious chest with "fun" method, lol.
@FreneticPotato
@FreneticPotato Год назад
It tracks anything you can interact with, actually. I found a somewhat hidden dirt mound that gave me a chest upon digging.
@tetept4
@tetept4 Год назад
@@oygemprime3864 this video explains it well and even shows a couple chest locations as a bonus ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kNx_H-iAw9o.html
@Kernviter
@Kernviter Год назад
9:39 Ayato moves forward and follows his target when he's in E stance
@white_tulip2189
@white_tulip2189 Год назад
Don’t forget that ayaka’s skill grants her 30% more dmg for normal/charged attacks.
@kontters
@kontters Год назад
23:30 don't forget that when Qiqi's E is active she heals on normal attacks which is actually quite good since Qiqi's normal attacks are fast as hell and my Qiqi heals around 1k health with each hit so i think it should be at least a little bit higher, i know it's still pretty trash either way but it deserves some more credit
@andresmiltongutierrezorteg2764
Yeah the only downside is the lack of energy regeneration, is a shame that none of qiqi's constellations addresses her energy problems unlike Barbara who does it
@Neisse
@Neisse Год назад
@@andresmiltongutierrezorteg2764 you forgot the constellation that gives her one energy every few E hit. That absolutely changes everything /s
@andresmiltongutierrezorteg2764
@@Neisse but is too conditional, it requires to do a reaction to activate it, Barbara just needs to use her charge attack or just do nothing except exists, there's the fact that she gain less cooldown compared to qiqi
@peroniko7622
@peroniko7622 Год назад
@@Neisse Oh yeah, don't forget you can use sacrificial sword for even more energy per E tick, it makes her so broken /s
@rusope1050
@rusope1050 Год назад
excuse me? qiqi's E, on it's own, DOES heal the active character. the passive is a different thing. sheesh.
@andrewarthur4059
@andrewarthur4059 Год назад
just a quick note: heizou has a passive where he gets a stack for every swirl he does so you can easily have a full stack without much worry so i believe heizous should be higher
@ThornsDroighorn
@ThornsDroighorn Год назад
There is so many wrong things with this tierlist tf... how does one make a tier list about elemental skills and not know that Heizou gets declension stacks with swirls, it's literally his first passive Why does Yae get B tier treatment but Fischl goes straight to A tier when they are literally the same ability except for the fact that yae's does more damage and has a larger range Albedo's entire kit is his E... how tf do you put that in B tier Lisa i can kind of get behind but even then if you are rating her at c6, when she enters the field, the whole area around her gets affected with 3 stacks for her elemental skill to just be casted on the spot Why is xiao's E in A tier? it deals ok damage for an elemental skill but barely creates energy particles for him even with 2 uses Eula's skill shreds physical and cryo resistances, makes her tankier, adds a lot of stacks to her burst and deals massive phyisical damage all on a low cooldown... and she's in B tier?
@zachtemoro2116
@zachtemoro2116 Год назад
Yeah the Eula part got me fucked up. How many DPS’ have a Debuff in their kit that also is like a Mini Burst. Like sure she has energy issues but thats how they balance her out cuz otherwise she’d be broken But even with Energy issues, it tells me that he doesn’t play Eula because her Normal Attacks are also stronk af. She’s a whole powerhouse
@TypicalYaspa
@TypicalYaspa Год назад
I feel like if Tartag makes it into S then so should Ayato. As someone who has both of them, Ayato just has less aoe damage due to not having riptide, while Childe lacks the consistency that Ayato has. (Also I’ve never encountered this problem with fast moving targets as the slash hits such a big aoe and auto aims on each attack it’s pretty impossible to miss his attacks)
@nd6096
@nd6096 Год назад
eh , i mean childe has riptide but besides that his skill being manual is a plus, because he can adjust his melee uptime with off field dmg dealers, most of the time i run ayato with xiangling his E skill ends faster than pyronado
@thetruth3068
@thetruth3068 Год назад
Childe has better hydro uptime with his skill. His attack, charge attack, riptide, they all have different ICD, so Childe apply a lot of hydro. Meanwhile, Ayato has normal ICD on his skill. This is not to mentioned Childe has better AOE too thanks to riptide and its explosion.
@river461
@river461 Год назад
I love watching your videos, but some of this is inaccurate. Here are the adjustments I would make: Shenhe's skill should be in A tier. It boosts cryo dmg MASSIVELY and her passive allows her skill to boost ALL elemental skills, bursts, and normal/charged/plunging attacks regardless of element. Ayato's skill naturally repositions itself when enemies move. In terms of buffing himself, definitely S tier. Eula's skill literally debuffs enemies and can be a mini nuke. That's a ton of value. Definitely at least A tier. Heizou's skill is A tier for me. He can gain stacks from swirling and these are usually obtained effortlessly. Then you just tap his skill to get CRAZY high damage. If you decide to hold it for the stacks and get interrupted, it actually retains the stacks so you can simply finish charging when the enemies stop attacking. His c6 gives his skill extra crit rate and dmg based on how many stacks he has, and he automatically gains one stack after taking the field at C1. Yae Miko's entire kit is based around her skill. It's a little clunky to use, but the damage scaling is very high and it can have 100% uptime. It doesn't attack every 2-3 seconds, more like every second. Definitely A tier. I would move Yanfei's to B tier. In terms of the value it provides to her own kit and damage, it has relatively good scaling and a low cooldown, so those free charged attacks actually help a lot. Since Dendro's release, Kuki's skill gained a ton of value. Definitely A tier now because of its electro application in hyperbloom teams, but I know this was made last month.
@danielcarrilho5217
@danielcarrilho5217 Год назад
Kuki's skill is great, even before Hyperbloom made it amazing. Consistent, mobile, electro application and healing with perfect/near perfect uptime. Way better than Barbara's at least.
@jonathanrobinson198
@jonathanrobinson198 Год назад
I’m surprised you didn’t take into account Venti’s tap E which hits like a truck for no reason and gives a good amount of energy
@SailorMusicCat
@SailorMusicCat Год назад
Hard Agree. I wanna say my Venti's tap E regularly hits for like 15-20k? I could be remembering wrong but that sounds about right.(Helped by Stringless and a couple other things I believe.)
@ishtilodi
@ishtilodi Год назад
Ayato main here. Correction: Ayato's skill doesn't lock him in the same location. You can kill one enemy with 2 slashes, and run to the other corner of the domain and kill a couple more with 2 more slashes, as long as it's done within 6 seconds. All his skill does is change his normal/ charge attacks into Shunsuiken slashes for 6 seconds. The only thing he can't do for the 6 seconds of the skill duration is plunge attack. The slashes also have deceptively large AOE.
@dwightciervo4004
@dwightciervo4004 Год назад
ayato can move, and auto tracks enemies while attacking, if enemies are too far he also does a little dash towards them
@nikolaskulka9574
@nikolaskulka9574 Год назад
Who the hell is telling you to use Heizou that way? With constellations (which this video assumes), Heizou's E has 1-shot potential. And, nobody should be using it to just swirl. That's extremely misinformed. I haven't seen a single rotation involving a non-fully-charged E.
@benub4207
@benub4207 Год назад
Ayato deserve to be S tier mainly because he doesn't spend a single stamina, good AOE, can work well with Yunjin. I don't see how he is A tier.
@leshou907
@leshou907 Год назад
So is fischl she doesn't even have to be on the field, just drop E and boom
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 Год назад
Because the Childe mains would whine.
@nocteliv
@nocteliv Год назад
10:05 This analysis just made me realize that Geo's very rigid and niche team composition actually aligns really well with the characteristics of the Geo element. Incredibly strong and unyielding when played right; but unreactive and inflexible - you have to build very specific teams for these characters to shine. The characters do not cooperate or synergize easily with other teams and characters.
@vivd3238
@vivd3238 Год назад
Except for Yun Jin who benefits others by being the only Geo. It’s a good contrast from Gorou who is basically mono-geo.
@Shamangirl92
@Shamangirl92 Год назад
I feel like you didn't take Venti's press E into account at all. That's the version most people use in combat anyway and it doesn't have any lag. Almost instantly fills his burst gauge up too. Maybe not enough for A tier, but I really feel it needs to be mentioned, because right now your commentary is all about the lag of the hold version.
@shaykirby5910
@shaykirby5910 Год назад
You are wrong about ayato, you can move from enemy to enemy using his E, his hitbox being large helps in hitting alot of enemies too
@loif93
@loif93 Год назад
Ayato's skill can slash in different direction if you rotate your camera. I discovered it today as he was a trial character in the current event. I stood still and when the enemies died and new enemies spawned behind him, I turned the camera and he automatically targeted them. I might be wrong tho about the camera but still... he can
@pantonuestion6589
@pantonuestion6589 Год назад
You can just move him and he continues to slash what he means by uptime is actually just that you get less slashes than you would if you have to say dodge turn around and otherwise
@themambawarrior2290
@themambawarrior2290 Год назад
9:38 Ayato main here, do you mean you think Ayato can't move around with the skill active? He can, he can walk and run normally while the skill is active, and if you're holding a direction while having him attack he'll move slightly in that direction. He's not super mobile, but he's not locked in place.
@ziebus904
@ziebus904 Год назад
But can he plunge🗿
@dn4654
@dn4654 Год назад
The comments section really ain't letting this shit slide😭
@Rachitdubey
@Rachitdubey Год назад
Ushi should be way higher. Why? You put Ganyu's in A. Also, check out the damage Ushi does. More than some 5 stars burst.
@jj6148
@jj6148 Год назад
The only reason why ushi does so much damage is because of itto's passives. The skill itself isn't actually anything special
@Rachitdubey
@Rachitdubey Год назад
@@jj6148 that's a argument. If that's the case, Ganyu's E is not special either but still it's in A tier.
@jj6148
@jj6148 Год назад
@@Rachitdubey I agree
@edshemp
@edshemp Год назад
Dude, I love your content but you gotta be trolling Albedo
@robin_nohood2515
@robin_nohood2515 Год назад
you said noelle only shields and heals however with c4 it also does significant damage on explosion and some on cast which is why i think it should be minimum B
@joeltoomer3332
@joeltoomer3332 Год назад
I agree
@leifanderson3487
@leifanderson3487 Год назад
And that shield is strong too. Not as good as geo daddy, but still great. People need to understand that shielding is like crit rate, in that it increases the overall consistency of your damage output.
@ancalyme
@ancalyme Год назад
Albedo is too low, his skill is the reason double geo is even a thing.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Год назад
I'd argue the reverse. Geo Resonance is the reason Albedo is a thing. Remove it from the equation, and 90% of META Albedo use goes poof.
@ancalyme
@ancalyme Год назад
@@Axterix13 Nobody uses double geo with Zhongli and geo traveller. You could make an argument for Zhongli and Yunjin, but the reason double geo is such a core meta team basis is the sheer amount of off-field damage Albedo provides *along* with geo resonance and Zhongli shield benefits.
@CritsVG
@CritsVG Год назад
What completely breaks Aloy's skill imo is the ICD of the stacks that the bomblets create. Aloy isn't all that strong to begin with, but limiting stack generation so that you can't trigger multiple at the same time e. g. with an Anemo unit just makes it absolutely impractical for getting her Cryo infusion going.
@MrJavilink
@MrJavilink Год назад
Still, it is pretty good in other characters. Decent dmg, occasional cryo reaction, big atk buff, cryo infusion, short atk buff for partners, enemy atk reduction and good battery. It just sucks cuz aloys multipliers are low + no constellations
@CritsVG
@CritsVG Год назад
@@MrJavilink Exactly, the problems you name wouldn't have been so jarring if at least we could instantly get those stacks for her infusion imo since it would have been way more consistent.
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 Год назад
No man... the 20 second freaking cooldown of Aloy's E is what destroys it. The rushing Ice stacks thing is ridiculous, but its not what makes Aloy bad. Its her E's cooldown which is a complete joke.
@CritsVG
@CritsVG Год назад
@@pfortunato78 Yeah, that too. The ICD of the stacks wouldn't be so bad either if the CD wasn't so goddamn long.
@owendavidmalicsi5900
@owendavidmalicsi5900 Год назад
Correction: Shenhe's E-skill works for every damage, regardless of cryo, pyro and even physical through her a4 passive.
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623 Год назад
u mean the skill/burst bonus?
@owendavidmalicsi5900
@owendavidmalicsi5900 Год назад
@@vaggeliskapsiotis7623 skill/burst and normal charge and plunging attacks
@VFal131
@VFal131 Год назад
Miko = B? nonsense
@ancalyme
@ancalyme Год назад
"It's just setting up her burst" Has he ever used her??
@Ads_idk
@Ads_idk Год назад
Zhongli HAS to be in the S tier
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 Год назад
No
@cute.dragons_hates_zoos
@cute.dragons_hates_zoos Год назад
@@kawaiimika7974 bruh
@cute.dragons_hates_zoos
@cute.dragons_hates_zoos Год назад
@@kawaiimika7974 someone hates osmanthus wine
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 Год назад
@@cute.dragons_hates_zoos No, I hate his pillar
@doubleagent5241
@doubleagent5241 Год назад
Zhongli's Pillar + Whatever Mirror Maiden has to wet him up = Best dynamic
@atinymeow6814
@atinymeow6814 Год назад
To the honest Albedo's E is basically 90% of his kit and it is really freaking good considering how long it lasts. Plus the elevator has some overworld uses. Itto does a lot of damage, just like Ayaka's. Kuki and Yae deserve a higher spot especially since dendro got released but I understand this video was made well before that part so meh.
@Lynemn
@Lynemn Год назад
I think most people would agree that Fischl, Yae, and Kokomi all have better elemental skills than Ganyu. Useful as the taunt is, it's really no better than Mona's, while C6 Fischl and Kokomi are definitely S tier in their E-skills due to Amy's C6 and Kokomi's brokenly overpowered healing that lets you face tank as if you had Zhongli on your team. As long as you don't get one-shotted, Kokomi's squid healing provides a lot more health than Zhongli's shield, lacking only in its lack of super armor. I don't have Yae but she's at least A tier, if not S, simply due to the high damage scaling of an off-field damage source and random electro application to circumvent ICD for swirl teams. Powerful off-field damage sources and elemental appliers are significantly better than single-hit on elemental skills like most of B tier. Also, Shinobu's elemental skill has definitely improved in its ranking since you recorded this. It's got pretty good healing for an E-skill, and she's currently one of the best support healers for aggravate Keqing or aggravate Yae, and will likely remain so until a dendro healer is released. And dendro really did improve the viability of all electro damage sources.
@Puppetmaster2005
@Puppetmaster2005 Год назад
The only one that I really disagree is probably Bennet. Anyone who knows a little bit of theorycrafting knows that Bennet's tap E applies TWO units of pyro instead of one.... that coupled with it's extremely short cooldown makes it one of the MOST efficient abilities to shred elemental shields on abyss mages / lectors. It's borderline overpowered. Definitely an S tier ability. Agree with everything else though.
@sleepycryptid8275
@sleepycryptid8275 Год назад
Anemo Traveller's skill is actually pretty decent, can help group together enemies, self heals a good amount, and generates tons of particles
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
@elknolasshrineofraja3966 Год назад
🌸😹I must concur with your assessment of the potency of Zhongli’s shield! Certainly it has made me far worse mechanically at Genshin than I was previously to acquiring his star and utilizing it solely upon mono Geo. It is so I almost feel naked without Zhongli except for when I am utilizing Kokomi setups😹🌸
@MrLuki890
@MrLuki890 Год назад
Thats some Albedo slander there ain't no way he is in the same tier as Guoba, or kaeya
@qazsurfer
@qazsurfer Год назад
Ayato, Albedo, and Itto were robbed! Ayato's skill is S-tier 100% and how is ganyu's skill more valuable than Albedo and Itto's? I also think Kuki's, Yae's, and Fischl's can be A or even S tier.
@alexanderluna4598
@alexanderluna4598 Год назад
The fact that this dude rated ganyus useless ass skill as A tier and said NOTHING about ventis battery and grouping skill besides that it was “clunky” invalidates the entire list. Lmao
@ChaosFlute
@ChaosFlute Год назад
Back when I was maining anemo Traveler I loved her skill. So fun! My only issue is if the enemy dies while you're holding it you don't get the energy particles. But I would definitely move that up a tier.
@sairoof4704
@sairoof4704 Год назад
i see a lot of wrongs in this tierlist so i will just put my modifications i will take Yelan's ,and raiden's skills to A tier yelan's skill does a lot of damage and offers mobility but that's it nothing really game breaking, while raiden skill is jack of all traits but master of none, it's not really your best choice still really good, Childe's E goes straight to B tier, for one reason and it is the cooldown thingy fischl, Sara, albedo should be in S tier amazing off field damage and battery from fischl and albedo, and sara's E is a better version of bennet's E i'd say it gives you the big buff as well as a potential to be a decent battery. ganyu, xiao go to B tier, ganyu's taunt is not that useful when fighting bigger enemies, while xiao's E only does damage beidou should be in A tier just because it's the coolest skill in the game also venti's skill should be also in A tier since you didn't consider the tap version which is the best version diona also should be in A tier same as raiden it does everything but doesn't expel at anything it's a beefy long lasting shield that is also an amazing battery and good for breaking enemies shields Diluc should be promoted, from meta prespective i think everyone knows that he's pretty weak, but when you consider his skill alone it's pretty amazing if not for his outdated kit, i'd argue that if he was made these days with the same kit with minor changes, he'd be pretty broken and fun to use baron bunny isn't as bad as you think, it is a taunt but also one of the best pyro batteries and since you consider C6 you can throw two of them gorou and shenhe they practically do the same thing i'd argue that shenhe provides more so they should at least be in the same tier Finally kuki's skill with the release of dendro became so better so i guess you might need to look at her again phew that was long, discussion is always fun thought
@tamaskalem1492
@tamaskalem1492 Год назад
Not a bad change, but I would leave Childe where he is or at the top of A tier. While his cooldown is a problem and take extra effort to work around, it can still be managable with how well you use your team rotations. Not to mention it's very strong. The main reason why he's still great to this day and why Ayato can't quite replace him in certain areas.
@olived9560
@olived9560 Год назад
Yeah, as a Venti main it's always weird to see people use his Hold E in combat instead of the tap version... the bonus damage and one energy particle is NOT worth it for the longer cooldown and animation (though it is satisfying). Tap though? Higher scaling than Ayaka's skill, a decent battery, and only a six second cooldown. Plus it immobilises small enemies for a short while (not much, but useful for interrupting their attacks) by flinging them into the air. Outside of nuke showcases and exploration, don't hold the E! ...sorry
@brrrr2237
@brrrr2237 Год назад
vars this tier list is LEGIT so bad objectively speaking😭
@lilqiqi619
@lilqiqi619 Год назад
@Vars ll you should update your “Why no one plays Kokomi” because its not the case anymore.
@telzen8774
@telzen8774 Год назад
It was never the case lol.
@lilqiqi619
@lilqiqi619 Год назад
@@telzen8774 ur right.
@chickenrunner4551
@chickenrunner4551 Год назад
Good work vars love your videos!
@actrose4272
@actrose4272 Год назад
C6 Lisa should be at least be B-Tier just for how much damage she does. I'll gladly charge 2 seconds for an upwards of 65k nuke without prior setup. The only problem is that it olny gets good at C6 but at that point it outscales a lot of the soley damaging skills of B-Tier, looking at you Diluc
@longheadface144
@longheadface144 Год назад
I believe Geo Travaler skill is one of the most broken skill in the game because it ability to be place almost anywhere allows to climb any terrain. If you watch the youtube channel Moosashi you will see what I mean.
@hatooniewoomy
@hatooniewoomy Год назад
Now we just need a "Best Normal Attack" tierlist, but not based off damage, based on the animations I think that'd be an interesting video at least, and It'd be a complete set with these other two videos
@mintsugas
@mintsugas Год назад
Other people have already made those kind of videos for animations
@hatooniewoomy
@hatooniewoomy Год назад
@@mintsugas really?? I've never seen any lol And I suggested it because I think it'd be a fun idea / I'd like to see vars' opinion
@vivd3238
@vivd3238 Год назад
Yun Jin, Kazuha, Albedo, Eula and Kamisato Siblings are definitely SS in that aspect.
@mintsugas
@mintsugas Год назад
@@hatooniewoomy akron made one I think
@sandwich834
@sandwich834 Год назад
@@hatooniewoomy ratheil made one, his vids are really funny and entertaining
@Lesterberne
@Lesterberne Год назад
Good video i like these type of videos they’re fun and discuss some stuff like design
@shar3859
@shar3859 Год назад
Nice, simple and entertaining video! About Heizou, the charging of his skill is more of a supplementary feature. The main way he charges his E stacks is by swirling other elements, and say your off field supports run out at 3/4 stacks - you can charge to reach the full 4 stacks
@josef-1209
@josef-1209 Год назад
idk probably kazuha, raiden, albedo Personal favorites are violet arc and lingering lifeline!!! Edit after premiere: • Albedo in B tier??? 🤯💀🙄😳😰😱🤧😕🤬😫😓👁️👄👁️ • Ganyu's skill in A tier is way too high lol... might as well put mona and amber in there as well. • Kuki Shinobu's skill is actually really good now with dendro's release. • I would say Tighnari's skill is B tier • Dori's skill would be in B or C tier • Collei's skill would be in B or C tier
@mojtabaamiri8104
@mojtabaamiri8104 Год назад
Fischl continuous dmg and Sara atk buff are also good
@fumiko203
@fumiko203 Год назад
Agree, if ganyu E in high A tier so mona should higher than ganyu, mona E >>> ganyu E
@danielferrieri7434
@danielferrieri7434 Год назад
Easy: The One That Has the Best Looking Symbol
@acaciasiobhan7760
@acaciasiobhan7760 Год назад
Though my personal rankings may differ here and there, I thoroughly enjoy and understand your placements and reasonings behind them!
@McRuessel
@McRuessel Год назад
Your backround music in the videos is always on par! Xenoblade II! 😄😍
@MrPimentel12
@MrPimentel12 Год назад
I disagree with a few placings in this list. UP: > Albedo's E is A tier, its his whole kit, the ulti does nothing. > Yae Miko's E is also A tier, it's most of her damage. > Diona's E is A tier, it's a great shield but still weaker then Zhongli. > Shinobu's E is at least B, but i will give it a pass because it looks like you made this before dendro got released. Down: > Ganyu's E goes down to B, it's just a taunt. it is literally the same as mona's. > Gorou's E goes down to B, niche buff skill just like Shenhe and Sara, it should be at the same tier. > Xiangling's E goes down to C, Guoba's AI sucks, and it's a very small portion of xiangling's damage, and it takes forever to give you the particles.
@danielvoina955
@danielvoina955 Год назад
i dont understand why would someone tap Heizos E, i use E then do some normal atacks and i have his 4 stacks before the cooldown ends
@chaosbean3211
@chaosbean3211 Год назад
I think Yunjin's skill should be in the same tier as Beidou's. Yeah, there's less damage, especially with reactions, but the tradeoff is less requirements. You can insta charge if you get hit, but if you don't she takes a second to just max charge it anyway. Since it counts as a geo shield and you'll be giving her a bunch of def anyway, it's also a super tanky shield. Granted, you'd have to switch to her and hold her skill to get said shield, but you'll most likely get to still counter the attack
@yagmurugur9904
@yagmurugur9904 Год назад
i wish it was an actual shield that stayed with the active character. she would be a way more useful support for yoimiya and ayato
@vivd3238
@vivd3238 Год назад
@@yagmurugur9904 Imagine if she had the passive to maintain her shield if you counter perfectly an enemy’s attack. She’s already awesome, but she would’ve been extra awesome with that.
@martinrose2668
@martinrose2668 Год назад
Kuki's consistent electro application that scales damage AND healing with EM should be at least B tier if not C tier. It was good even before dendro and now it's even better of course Diona's skill also could go a bit higher but ymmv. The main thing is that even at r1 sac bow will trigger the passive consistently specifically because her skill hits enemies three to FIVE times (tap vs hold), which makes her shield basically last twice longer than it would be. Yes, it's only achievable with the sac bow, but the synergy she has with that bow is insane and amazing. The shield itself is also really strong.
@zeroedits7582
@zeroedits7582 Год назад
My opinions : Heizou = Lisa Hutao = yoimiya = childe = Ayato Mona = ganyu = Amber = xiangling = Kokomi Heizou and Lisa both have high scaling skills and having to stand still for a few seconds Hutao yoimiya childe and Ayato their skills do basically the same thing converting their attacks into their element Mona ganyu Amber xiangling Kokomi has a stationary taunt or damage Amber and Kokomi should be higher as ambers c2 lets you explode baron bunny doing 200% more damage and Kokomi can heal
@burted
@burted Год назад
I would say Heizou's skill is much better than Lisa's based on the fact that stacks can be gained quite easily from swirl reactions and swapping him in/out (C1) with overall higher scaling and lower cooldown. Also, I would say Kokomi >> Ganyu/Mona/Xiangling > Amber. Rather than the damage, I would say the main purpose of these skills would be their taunt alongside elemental application - Kokomi's jellyfish excels at this off-field long-lasting application whilst healing, whereas Amber's Baron Bunny only applies pyro once per proc with a long explosion timer. Whilst you could explode the baron bunny, you'd have to aim a fully charged shot (requiring amber to be on field, which messes up rotations and sources of greater damage --> overall clunkiness) and the scaling is also not the greatest. IMO. Feel free to argue
@kuvrut7747
@kuvrut7747 Год назад
you can move with Ayatos during is skill, and it have huge AOE.
@cantaskin04
@cantaskin04 Год назад
I'm just here to say that I really enjoyed watching the video and hearing your opinions, at the end of the day a tier list video is based on opinions which is what makes it interesting. Thank you Vars for the fun content as always and I hope you don't let the critical comments affect you negatively!
@sureyeah3678
@sureyeah3678 Год назад
i hear you man. But there is a thin line between making an opinion, and ranking Ganyu E as A tier
@notatallfunctional
@notatallfunctional Год назад
Yeah but he’s still basing those opinions on blatantly false information, and he contradicts himself a lot.
@antihmota4625
@antihmota4625 Год назад
I think both albedo and yae deserve A for their skill, I mean I woud debate both of them to be in S. And I think venti E is underrated, it does huge amount of damage if you build him as dps, stun enemies (idk how to describe it), great energy generation and you use hold in open world for exploration and press in combat, it really deserves A rank
@velarana8303
@velarana8303 Год назад
would be nice if you learned what all the skills did before ranking them and how they work on the characters, other wise alright ranking :/
@duncanarielgomezbadillo2452
Ayato does not attack only one same location, he can change position as he pleases and stop the flurry of attacks if the enemies move
@mulraf
@mulraf Год назад
damn. usually i really agree with your videos mostly but i sadly gotta say that i see things different in this one. things i see would not put in the same ranking from A-D (S Tier is fine): A: Ayato, Yoimiya and Kokomi could definitely be put into S tier. kokomi because of the really good hydro application and for the other two you mentioned it yourself. especially ayato i don't see the "enemies could move" as enough of a drawback to justify not giving him S-Tier. That 'drawback' literally applies to almost anyone. B: Monas elemental skill barely does any damage. as someone who has triple crowned her, her elemental skill does almost nothing. the taunt isn't much more effective than baron bunny. it does apply hydro but it lasts so shortly and doesn't have too many ticks. i would put it in C-Tier. albedos skill is pretty vital i would at least put it into A-Tier. Physical Razor i also have tripple crowned, and his elemental skill literally does - for some reason, even with the scaling - no more damage or even less than a single auto attack for me. i used to think it is good because it is with low investment but now i would say it's literally either C-Tier only because he shreds resistance otherwise it would be D-Tier. Dillucs Elemental Skill is pretty good for him in my opinion. it's also a cool mechanic with the cancellation. you need to take into consideration that his swings are much faster if you alter between his e and normal attack also you get elemental reactions which is very important. I would give it an A-Tier. C-Tier: I would put chongyun into B-Tier. arguably. first of all it provides cryo infusion which is unique. secondly it does decent damage over an area. it's also decent for breaking shields. nothing outstanding but better than the rest in that group in my opinion. kuki. ok. sumeru is out now so you probably changed your opinion on her with the electro application so i probably don't need to spell it out, but i'd put her in B-Tier i think. D-Tier: dendro-traveler elemental skill is pretty decent damage-wise. but ok, dendro wasn't out at the video so yeah. but i'd bump her up to B-Tier (i mean it's not really much worse than e.g. bennett imho). qiqi: i know people will disagree with me here but i would *at least* give it a B-Tier. her other kit is pretty useless but the fact that with her elemental skill she can heal off-field is - in my opinion - her biggest advantage. also her skill just heals a lot. even without her passive. and if you don't consider passives for this tier-list then i would also put sucrose into A-Tier instead as she then 'only' provides grouping and an elemental application and not much damage.
@respectyourself1786
@respectyourself1786 Год назад
Putting childe a tier higher than ayato is kinda uh- weird? Knowing well, they both do the same thing. Ayatos kit even makes sure you can just idle by holding down the attack button since he just inches towards the enemies and does actually have a good aoe.
@Artjoxas
@Artjoxas Год назад
You say this should of come out in December? How far in advance do you record these??
@brycecai4700
@brycecai4700 Год назад
19:32 don’t forget the most important thing, this skill will constantly apply hydro to your character, which will cause enemy ice attacks to freeze you (for example, wolf of the north)
@warrencaelum9536
@warrencaelum9536 Год назад
no one actually cares about that lmao
@brycecai4700
@brycecai4700 Год назад
@@warrencaelum9536 make sense since no one cares for Barbra
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