This hurts my soul seeing this video is going to happen but I still completely understand why. Even with some of her issues I still enjoy her playstyle
I dont have her. But anytime my friend ask me to do his daily, I will make a yoimiya party. I still dont plan on getting her since I got hu tao, but I would like to try her on my friend's account because her gameplay is still fun, well in overworld at least
Yes me too... At first, when I used her on the trial I knew that she was "not the best" but I still got her to C1 because I really enjoy her as a character
A former friend of mine said her Playstyle is press e and spam m1, and while ig it's true to some extent, she's still incredibly fun to play. On my account she rarely sees the light of the abyss cause I have hu tao for single target damage, but I enjoy sometimes using her in floor 9-11.
Yoimiya actually synergizes with yelan amazingly, due to her attack ratios and the ICD for vaporize, and yelan has terrible on field dps unless you c6 her
A good buff for yoimiya would be having itto's passive. The passive im talking abt is when itto dashes or moves during his AA animation, he could still continue the combo. (edit) wtf this comment blew up and vars even hearted holy shit
they could fix so many characters retroactively like how they did with Mona on Ayaka release (even thought you still get stuck everywhere) the same with characters that lose their burst when you switch themout yet others wont *shrug*
@@KaoshiSan " the same with characters that lose their burst when you switch themout yet others wont" this is very obviously intentional. Those that have active off-field bursts are usually supports for obvious reasons. Those that don't are dps simply because it would make their kit far too op and ruin the point of them being dps in the first place
@@tomdata3340 counter to that, Diluc is still an excellent choice bc his pyro infusement stays even after quick swapping for changing situations. It’s good bc he’s the only one who can get anything out of his burst, which has me side eyeing the character planning of other units bc again if only the user could proc the main dps burst it would make them more viable and less of a weak spot in your team(Klee and yanfei for example)
@@tomdata3340 I should've worded that better, not specifically with burst but characters with mechanics like Ningguang and Yanfei, if you switch them out you lose their stacks, yet you have characters like Noelle where she can Burst and keep it even when you switch out, then Diluc as well with his infusion after his burst you can switch out and still have it if you switch back to him, both Ninguang and Yanfei stacks run out if you don't use them on time so even if you switch them in or out I think you should still have them based on that duration, can't recall who it is right now but there's one character that keeps the stacks even when switching and that's what I meant with retroactively adding that to some characters, to put it simple if a burst, skill or any other mechanic has a certain duration and you switch back before that timer runs out you should still have it. *and sorry english isn't my first language so I could probably explain my self better*
One thing that also stigmatized Yoimiya was her debut banner. Raiden did most of the damage, but it was Sayu that added insult to Yoimiya's injury as people rolled on her banner exclusively for Sayu then whinned non-stop for a week when they got Yoimiya, blaming her for their "F Pitty" when they were well aware of the risks but rolled anyways. (and yes, I'm somewhat seething cause I wanted Yoimiya but didn't get her) Edit: C0 Yoimiya acquired couple days ago, however I might end up tacking C1 Yoimiya on the hitlist. (heard some people saying they put Yoimiya there as waiting room for Sumeru, so I guess we'll see)
still piss me off even now when people crying over their pity when they are the one that roll the banner, even more for people that saying it straight that they are "pity building" then later when they get called for doing it, they say that they aim at the 4 star, then that's not a pity build
I'm hoping she gets buffed in the long run. Yunjin has been a big upgrade to her and can output twice the damage... I'm also excited for Ayato vape (fingers crossed...). I feel Mihoyo regrets making powerhouses like Ganyu Xiao and Hutao. Perhaps devs don't wish players have one character to carry them throughout all content, but instead, make it more like overwatch where you need to mix and match combos of characters to clear content?
"I feel Mihoyo regrets making powerhouses like Ganyu Xiao and Hu Tao" Even Xiao is starting to fall off because of his caveats (his plunge knocking back mobs), and Hu Tao is directly competing against Xiangling. Ganyu still has its place but she's no longer the powerhouse that she was in pre-2.0. Ayaka is directly competing against her and their damage output is pretty similar on their respective teams.
Yoimiya’s kit is supposed to be a novel kind-a hybrid unit; she has a window of DPS with her skill, but come the time when her Burst is able to be triggered she should be swapped out to provide Support/Sub-DPS instead with her passives and Aurous Blaze. But the passive damage of the Aurous Blaze is not as strong as other Sub-DPS and as you’ve mentioned, the lacking AoE of Aurous Blaze makes ZERO sense, and the bonus attack buff to the team her passive provides is too little and nonsensically long to maximise. Furthermore the absolutely inane inclusion of a Charge Level 2 in her kit, that otherwise has ZERO mention in any other place, be it Passives or Constellation, is stupid-not to mention how WEAK THE SCALING IS????? The way I see it, they possibly feared that such new type of unit had to be so carefully balanced so as to not break then game,,,, but ended up going in the COMPLETE opposite direction. The comparisons people have made of Yoimiya’s Skill to Hu Tao becomes even more egregious when you take a closer look and notice that Hu Tao gets increased resistance to interruption alongside her insanely high HP Scaling Attack Bonus; Yoimiya’s Niwabi Fire Dance has NEITHER of that. And I’m not saying this as a Yoimiya disliker-I AM a Yoimiya Haver and an accidental C1 Yoimiya at that! Playing her makes you genuinely wonder if they actually even PLAYTESTED this character that actually has a SUPER unique kit that indicates she’s supposed to be of an entirely new role of a unit who can swap from DPS to Support/Sub-DPS. All in all, I am just disappointed in Hoyoverse and more disappointed at how they’re never actually going to revise or buff a character’s kit and, perhaps even worse, release a future character who has a kit that is ACTUALLY what Yoimiya was supposed to be but never will.
agreed, examples of hybrid units are Noelle & Jean but at least they still excel on one thing (Noelle as dps at C6 and Jean as a cleanser + debuffer) and speaking of your last sentence, remember the firecrackers in the recent Lantern Rite? (the ones that we used to defeat the Treasure Hoarders in Guyun Stone Forest) I think that's what Yoimiya's abilities should be; it deals decent AoE and can target multiple enemies. It also makes sense that she's a fireworks maker.
She was also kinda the first limited five star to be an objective side grade to existing characters. You would think being single target ONLY and having no nuke would make her damage greater than Hu Tao when fighting one enemy. Well MHY certainly thought otherwise.
She has a huge advantage over Hu Tao though: Fighting melee-unfriendly enemies like specters or some of the bosses. And she's not repeatedly cutting her own HP, which makes her much more comfortable to use in the overworld.
At first, I regretted having Yoimiya since the lukewarm reception of people got to me but now, I "main" her. I think she's one of the best visually designed characters in the game. I also adore her personality. I have been using her a lot in Spiral Abyss since I got her. She has found her niche in bosses especially those that cannot stay still. One of the things I like most about her is that she's very comfortable to use. As long as you have a shielder and know her effective range (very easy to do compared to other DPS mechanics), you'll be sure to output consistent and quite high damage. She's a great driver for Beidou's burst which kinda solves her AOE problem. Yun Jin is also a great support for her so you can put Bennet in your other Abyss team. So yeah, my point is you need invested supports and sub-DPSes for her but once you have them set, she'll provide very comfortable playstyle. People also tend to dismiss her burst. While I agree that it's lackluster, her burst is literally a Noblesse Oblige buff for her sub-DPS teammates and she's a great driver for those off-field sub-DPS teammates. I agree that she has many flaws and that they seem to be intentionally done by Hoyoverse (Mihoyo back then). Hoyoverse will probably never change the kit of a released character again so they're releasing new enemies and characters to fix these flaws that they themselves created which is very unfortunate
Eh she's now my teapot companion I really can't bring myself to use her anymore ,I've tried very hard to make her work but everytime I bring Xiangling or HuTao to abyss instead it just becomes easier...I hate that feeling so much
honestly people who doesn't like a unit when everybody says they suck, don't deserve to like and enjoy them after they actually see the characters without people's opinion. it's really frustrating. it's just my opinion, not a hate comment and i apologize if this sounds harsh
@@kuroshi_anaki your comment doesn’t sound harsh, it just sounds a little odd. Basically, if we were to go by your logic, that could kinda kill off the game. For example, I remember when Raiden came out some said she was broken while others said she’s garbage, and gosh poor Kazuha was basically called another Sucrose. If we go by what you’re saying, essentially people wouldn’t see the beauty in these characters (attack and personality wise), as well as them not spending money on the game to get the character, which keeps the game alive. I know it can be kinda hurtful that people weren’t on the character’s side from the beginning, but it doesn’t mean one should keep them from enjoying a character down the line. They’ll see their potential or not, and either way is fine. Just play it to your heart’s content ❤️
I love her design and personality so much but I tried her out on my friend's account and hate her gameplay :( everything about her is perfect except the gameplay, which is arguably most important thing for a video game
Frrr I have Hu Tao and I built him for her- his shield broke so easily and he just. Wasn’t helping, especially since Hu Tao doesn’t need pyro resonance. Ended up getting Zhongli because Thoma wasn’t cutting it
I think a fun buff to Yoimiya would be to add Kindling Arrows to her normal attacks during her elemental skill. They could seek out random mobs around the main target. It would give her some semblance of an aoe and would add a fun fireworks show feel to her play.
I wish Mihoyo just focused one update on simply fixing characters, adding or changing kits, for better or for worse, would want to make people build more characters instead of using the same 1-2 parties daily. I know people won’t agree with me because of the content drought we often experience, and wanting to build more characters would pile upon the resin problem, but if you ask me, it’s a step in the right direction.
I would love if they did this, but I doubt there's any incentive for hoyo since this won't make them more money than releasing new characters for players to spend on.
I mean, there’s always a filler patch every couple of months, I don’t see why they can’t be used for balancing characters out like Yoimiya, Sara, Xinyan, Klee or Yae, even if it was just like one character at a time
Why fix characters when it was designed to be flawed in the first place? They won't sell you a perfect character since balancing in mind every char has to have it's strength & weakness. If they were to release a char that can do everything with no weakness or drawbacks or downtime, then they will be unable to design or sell newer char without raising the power limit.
@@lucustwyatt1960 no one said there should be no drawbacks, we're saying it's boring to centre the game around only a couple of 5* when there's 50 characters in the roster
your point about the game devs making conscious decisions that nerf the characters that end up just intentionally hurting their entire kit's cohesiveness is just really disheartening because it's damn true. they're SO afraid of making another broken character like ganyu and hu tao that they end up making stupid arbitrary restrictions, and for what?? it also feels like an extra slap in the face that ITTO can continue his normal attack patterns after being interrupted but YOIMIYA couldn't. what made them decide to give itto this ability but not yoimiya, when arguably yoimiya needs this more because of how vulnerable bow characters are and how shit their aiming system is?? itto doesn't even NEED it. it really pisses me off too.
@@Someone-zn4dh they aren't favouring zhongli as much now, its raiden who's getting spoonfed characters who desperately need her(miko,sara). a bit after yoi's release(2.1 when people had actually built her) is when they started cucking zhongli to make way for healers. i think yoi was hastily put together to align with her part in the story, and they hadn't thought about her bad interruption issues. i have her and she is fine w/o a shield, just keep your distance.
Thank goodness I was able to get Ganyu and didn’t skip her for Yae. I did surprisingly end up getting Yae and playing her is miserable as much as I love her. This honestly makes me scared for Yelan, the only “new” character who plays fine is Itto
@@Someone-zn4dh I mean if you’re talking about his launch, I think he really needed that buff, his shield before was complete garbage and he was the worst 5 star by far
Imma try to predict some of your points 1. The aim system of the Auto Attacks of bows is shit. The aim system in general is shit. 2. She's pyro meaning she competes with Hu Tao for single target and Xiangling for AoE which I'm pretty sure Yoimiya loses to both since they had to balance her damage cause she's range and that's an "advantage"; it's not btw. 3. Her gameplay is pretty counter-intuitive; she's a ranged unit which should be her advantage but 1.) Enemies have teleports and dashes that pretty much nullifies her range and 2.) You can't control which enemy you'll target because aim bot sucks so you have to get closer to your priority target anyway
@snow omg i never even thought about the visuals.. like i get her design is red-orange but would it hurt to give us some cool blue or purple fireworks in the mix?
her range is definitely an advantage in most cases. enemies with dashes and teleports are more annoying for melee characters because youll be wasting time and stamina chasing after them. say goodbye to your charged attacks (and most of your damage) if youre using c0 hu tao in that situation. auto aim is definitely shit though, genshin needs a manual lock on for enemies regardless of weapon type. xiao's E suffers heavily from this too, especially at c6
imma add on to your points and talk about banners for predictions Ayaka is a heavily incipiated character who people have been saving for and known for since CBT, while people save for Raiden Shogun either because she's an archon or they are Honkai fans. Unlike them however, Yoimiya just came out of no where, just like Kazuha, but because Kazuha is a support, he's much more common to see.
Yoimiya’s gameplay is such a tragedy, there was something to be had with her kit. When I read her abilities, I was so hyped, because I thought this was a character that could ebb and flow between being a main DPS and a Sub DPS. Her skill gives her the ability to be a main dps, and after her skill you pop her ult. Said ult will bolsters the party’s damage enough to make up for the fact Yoimiya isn’t there and it also applies Pyro like Xiangling, it also came with a atk boosting effect, so the damage parade could continue on. But in reality, the ult doesn’t last nearly long enough for her to be a good sub dps, and as said in the video, MHY janky auto attack targeting system combined with Yoimiya’s backwards movements while attacking , fucks with her main dps side of things. Let’s not forget Yoimiya’s charged attack like MHY did, they could’ve been freaking cool, but for some reason it’s disabled when you use her skill, when it should’ve been also been buffed alongside her autos instead. All of these things is what makes me respect amber mains as a fellow main of a jank ass pyro archer waifu. Yoimiya is my first 10/10/10 character, and the character I’ve invested the most resources into aside from Ganyu. I hope that one patch, MHY will just have a patch that is dedicated to do gameplay updates/revisions of several jank characters.
You're a true Yoimiya main The true mains of the characters understand the characters truly and continue to accept and main the characters even though they know their flaws Childe mains and Yoimiya mains I just can't help but respect
5:10 There are already catalyst users with heat-seeking properties, though? I saw a comparison between Yoimiya’s and Yanfei’s auto attacks against a jumping slime. Yoimiya’s shots completely missed but Yanfei’s fireballs turned to hit it. This is also true with Ningguang whose gems persistently track the enemy. They home in and will change their trajectory to hit even if the target teleports after cast (Thundering Manifestation) or dashes (Geovishap hatchlings). Catalysts do have targeting issues sometimes but bow autos are much worse in that regard.
Yoimiyas special charged attack does that as well, it's an EASY fix just make all her infused normals track enemies like her special charged attack but Mihoyo is far too incompetent to even think of that
if you gave yoimiya autotrack like catalysts there'd basically be no reason to ever use catalysts though, the entire selling point of catalysts is they are either auto hit or auto aimed projectiles with a few exceptions I honestly dont see why its such a big deal, yeah sometimes the shots miss but people are blowing it out of proportions, it's rarely ever a nuisance even in abyss, and you can always just pair her with fischl venti or a character with a taunt and it's not a problem.
as a yoimiya main, her not being able to trigger her own burst is kind of a non issue since 1) if youre using 4pc shimenawa, it encourages you to use her burst at the end of her rotation anyway, and 2) it can still be triggered by off-field supports like xingqiu, beidou, fischl etc, so there really is no damage loss there. her lack of AoE is definitely annoying, but in most cases she can quickly finish off small fries one by one, and its not an issue against bosses, which have been dominating the abyss for several months now. her auto targeting is kind of a double edged sword imo. on one hand, it makes targeting trivial. all you have to do is mash the attack button and enemies will fall like flies. no chasing after enemies and running out of stamina like hu tao. but on the other hand, she definitely misses many of her shots, especially against those annoying slimes. homing arrows might not make a lot of sense but simply increasing the travel speed of her arrows after theyre shot would at least somewhat mitigate this issue. regardless, genshin desperately needs a manual lock on system for all weapon types (xiao's E would also benefit from this) like almost every other action rpg has
her playstyle is supposed to be do pew pew pow, burst and then swap to someone else who can trigger her burst and then come back when you're ready do to pew pew pow again
I agree with most of this. Just as a note on shimenawa, Ideally you should be using her burst at the start of her rotation and going through your supports to gen energy, snapshot the atk bonus, and proc the burst if you're using Shimenawa. You should also be able to burst again at the end of her skill. Otherwise, shimenawa loses out in damage to 2 gladiator and 2 crimson witch.
her lack of aoe and her targetting issues are the main issue to me, its like what happens with hu tao (even thought her ult has good AOE) , you get too focused on single target and most difficult content loves to throw more than 2 enemies at you
@@Braxophone thats just the case if ure playing her with sub dps but in a team like mine ( her benny zhongli kazuha ) there is absolutely no point in using her burst
@@Braxophone I thought shimenawa is by far the best option regardless of what you do since the normal attack damage bonus is way better than just 15% pyro and the extra burst since the vast majority of her damage is from her autos
The answer is simple: a lot of people were waiting for Raiden so they skipped Yoimiya. But I know a lot of people who have her and all of them (myself included) main her or at least have her built and pick her very often
i ended up pulling her cause i didnt know how the pity system worked, and her personality definitely makes her a fun character!....i just hate the bow playstyle so i just use her whenever im hunting
i accidentally got her while going for sayu, and never built her except for recently cause i happened to have leftover artifacts that fit her perfectly. i basically always use her in overworld cause having ranged attacks is so convenient but she cannot keep up with my other characters in abyss 12 in the slightest
i wanted sayu so i pulled in her banner quite a bit so eventually i got her and she carried me for quite a while,, her ult is underwhelming but i love her skill is great,, i still suck with bow users but i kinda love her
@snow Its underwhelming but deals similar damage as Hu Tao if not more because you attaking sooner and can hit characters in the air which they seem to have added more to the game, so they kinda balance out who to pick from but the the genshin aiming needs to be updated though
I like to pair up Yoimiya with Raiden, they're a beast together! By doing this, you can do some area damage since it causes overload damage to enemies in the area. Making her a bit less single targeted.
Yeah I feel like raiden makes yoimiya whole... it's unreal how good their synergy is...yoi's on field E + raiden's off field E and yoi's off field Q + raiden's on field Q...and also they buff each other pretty well
Yoimiya is honestly the perfect character for me because I love using auto attack oriented charcsters and I like how users but the usually aren’t built to be a DPS. So Yoimiya skill making her Autos Pyro infused is just perfect for me I love her so much
Same - I even built Phys DPS Fischl at the start of the game and was so happy a 5 star with higher auto multipliers was released so I could enjoy that play style
Auto Attack characters are my favorite, it’s so satisfying. Yoimiya’s E skill makes me happy because she won’t need a Chongyun or Bennett element infusion
This is the exact problem I have with Yae Miko. On paper she deals a ton of damage and has great animations, sound design and everything but Hoyoverse just HAD to make playing her as miserable of an experiance as possible. Both of her passives add nothing to her gameplay and the first one is literally only needed at all because of a bad design decision regarding her elemental burst. Her normal and charged attack were intentionally made shit (both damage and clunkyness wise) despite all the effort which was put into their animations, etc just to deter players from using them and her burst is intentionally frustrating to land because adding a stun or interrupt on the first hit so the other 3 can actually hit the enemy would have been too much work apparently. Oh yeah her Elemental skill is one of the most unpolished abilities in the game. Not only is the initial dash slow and unsatisfying to use but it also gets stuck on every last pebble and the lightnings almost never target the enemies you want to hit. Honestly at this point I feel like she deserves not only a buff/rework but also an entry into this playlist.
I guess her original design was to work with Shimenawa (NA/CA) & to be released alongside Raiden in patch 2.1. However they were still unable to resolve the issues surrounding Catalyst users by 2.0 (Catalyst users have tons of issue auto-attacking) hence she was delayed to work on her more, but they said F-it and changed plans for her to what she is now as dateline for 2.5 approaches. Hence now she needs a new artifact set to work with her. Little people might think this, but Ganyu was also supposed to be a Catalyst user, which was last minute swapped to a Bow due to Catalyst issues. She retains her original long range AoE damage, but instead of throwing projectiles on AoE CA, she shoots arrows on AoE CA.
@@lucustwyatt1960 oooh. Maybe that could explain yoimiya's messy kit. Maybe she's supposed to work like current ganyu, but when old catalyst ganyu changed to bow, they have to change yoimiya to avoid similarities
let just see, supposedly there are artifacts working on that going to boost up miko power and first dendro character are said to be support for yae miko lineup
9:27 I love how rational Vars’ analysis videos are. When he said would you rather have Bennett or Xinagling I laughed. I find it funny how Mihoyo made Xiangling, Bennett and Xingqui so OP, they are referenced in every conversation. What if someone just doesn’t like using them? I for one don’t like Xingqui and Bennett at all, no offense to those who love using them, just, what if, someone doesn’t like them?
I have this problem with Xiangling. The Guoba is so clunky that I don't enjoy using her. I know her burst is broken but she isn't fun so I don't care. Bennet is on thin Ice too. I keep procrastinating building him and frankly I'm only considering it for the attack buff that he'd give to my Yanfei.. I like Xingqu though. Xingqu is a good boy.
They are made on purpose to be that strong as the sole 'baseline' for f2p dmg and will continue be that strong, the whole reason they exist is because there are people without any "meta" and they still want to at least beat floor 9
As much as I need Xingqiu Xiangling and Bennett I hate when people say "you don't need these characters those 3 can do it better when their free" first of all part of the reason I want a new character is cause I need a new character that can accel well while I can still use Xiangling, Xingqiu or Bennett somewhere else 💀 I never regretted Yoimiya cause I needed a Pyro DPS since I couldn't always depend on Xiangling and I wanted Childe and soon Ayato so I can use Xingqiu somewhere else without completely depending on him for both floors of abyss
I agree I don't like using Xiangling. Even when I force myself to try and build her and use her, I really don't like batterying her and end up switching her quickly
Yeah, why doesn't Niwabe Fireworks just activate her side-projectiles that she gets on her charged attacks? It would make sense animation-wise too since she has little fireworks flying around her already.
I think its mainly her lack of AOE, the fact that she was sandwiched between ayaka and raiden who were both very hyped and popular characters and also the fact that she's pyro, meaning that there are a lot of other options if youre not interested in her as an individual.
I keep telling people that yoimiya isn't much of a good character in terms of meta but people say otherwise eventhou they don't have her. As a yoimiya main since release, I can confirm that she has more cons than pros and fixing some of those cons would really help, this would make her a good character rather than just a forgettable one.
If she made enough money for MHY, they would fix her long ago, sadly she didn't so... it'll be years before MHY actually want to do something to fix her fundamental issues
Yeah no she doesn't have "more cons than pros", that's just a lie here. And it's usually the other way around, people who doesn't have her complains about how she doesn't work well enough. As for meta it's not as binary as you make it out to be. Since Yoimiya is purely single target, it means she do great against bosses, but not against swarm. It's exactly like Xiao but the other way around, you're never going to bring Xiao to a boss fight (or you can but he's going to be underwhelming) and likewise you're shouldn't bring Yoimiya to a swarm floor (or you can but she's going to be underwhelming)
@@nekonochesire6023 the thing is abyss mostly all about diversity, a lot of the time in an abyss run you'll see both single and swarm, which is why chara like xiangling and ayaka really exceed
Same here, yoimiya main since she was announced because i love her design and personality, but despite that she is a character with huge flaws and it breaks my heart. Everytime i told my friends of the problems with her the answer is always the same "but X character is worse" or "just use Y character", hoyoverse kept sending worse units (gameplay wise) and the community does not give a single fvck about them or do something, unless its more primogems. The game is dying and its not the playerbase fault, but insisting in new characters or more rewards rather than fixing the ones we have is really sad. (sorry for the essay, but i left the game because i got stressed out and because hoyo only cares if you're a whale or are part of the CN server, not listening to the community is the worst part about it all)
@@nekonochesire6023 but u see even characters like itto, hutao and Raiden can wreck bosses just as fast as yoimiya and they all can deal with crowds. So wouldn't deciding to roll for these characters be a much better option and she does have more cons atleast thru personal experience when playing with her in abyss.
During the Hyakunin Ikki event, she was the hardest to play for me... One of her main problems for me was her getting interrupted which was super annoying, also if you accidentally press her E and switch to another charecter ...you have to wait a whole 13 seconds ( i think ) to get her E back Just an opinion from a non yoimiya player
i agree with the interrruption but u can solve it eather by just using a shield or smthing like xingqui and beidou can also help (they give u sone resistance to intereuption) and for the e problem u can mange ur rotation using all ur supports abilities
Weird how they're trying to promote her by putting on multiple enemies instead of single enemies (at least stage 4-5 has them). Kinda like in Eula's trial, they put Treasure Hoarders which has negative phys RES but they dies too fast before her Lightfall Sword drops
Yes I totally agree. I wish I could pull for her but every time I trial her there are just too many quality of life things that annoy the heck out of me! The interruption and E not staying on her is so terrible! Any character who has that in their kit I have a hard time enjoying because I am not good at rotations. Luckily most don’t so it is usually forgiving. Since she is a main DPS(kinda) I think it’s a particularly bad a choice to have such a long cool down and it turns off.
I’m only missing 5 characters right now, and Yoimiya is honestly still one of my best quick damage dealers… I rarely have problems with her missing her targets as I know how far away I can be. The only thing about her that has bothered me is that she moves backwards quite a bit while shooting and gets caught in hydro abyss mage bubbles sometimes…
As a Yoimiya Main, this made me laugh since i was also ranting about her small issues and her mildly infuriating design but just giving her the Right Party & investing in her as a DPS she can 36 Stars Abyss. Most of her True potential is locked behind her Vulnerability and her Burst. I don't have Zhongli so i don't the luxury of just facing tanking every single hits but I'll still play her to the very end because im a simp
@@ZachPlum Yoimiya can clear the abyss with minimal investment (any refinement of rust + mid artifacts) meanwhile amber can 36 but requires specific comps and god tier artifacts.
@@ZachPlum yoimiya isnt meta defining as you all hope but she can utilize almost all of the 4* support you already have. So she is good substitute but not broken in any means.
@@ZachPlum I'm getting 40 second clears on the Golden Wolf Lord in the spiral abyss using a four-star weapon. I've seen a few other five stars do it. But they are using their signature five-star weapon, but you would consider that meta defining.
@@splazbee really nice to hear that, i'm gonna pull on her rerun & once I got her and the other characters I really want i'll 100% go for her constellations, I just fell in love with her playstyle & design the moment I saw it
Reading the title of this video made my heart drop not going to lie, but I'll be interested in listening to what issues you spotlight, and what we can do to better her standing in the future!!
yess omg that was me with the yanfei vid and when he made the comment about her in this vid lmaoo. i was choking back tears ngl but it had to be said and he’s absolutely right
As a yoimiya main She's trash when it comes to multiple enemies and her burst has sm issues I cannot even explain her normal atta ks don't hit sometimes but SHES CUTE AND I LOVE HER she can do amazing consistent dmg but her ICD ruins it a bit but she's still so fun to play
Yoimiya has a lot of problems and ICD is not the main one, heck the only problem her Icd has is because she can't stop her AA string, but if she had no ICD on normal attacks she would overtake xingqius hydro application and he would vaporize instead.
4:50 Actually, her burst deals AOE Pyro damage, and the projectile will follow the target even if it moves, weather or not it will hit depends on the enemy. The burst will hit a big hilichurl that charges, but it won't hit a slime that does its big leap on top of you. EDIT: you have a perfect demonstration at 9:00, and 11:28
I am surprised you forgot to mention how characters like Itto can keep his auto combo even after a short dash while Yoimiya cannot, It's one of those things where the developer can easily implement but for some reason they decide not too.
As someone who plays DMC 3 i understand your pain, so for context DMC 3 makes you control dante that has 4 style that changed your combat style(Trickster for agility/dodges, Swordmaster for melee combats, Gunslinger for gun based skills, and Royal Guard for parries) but you can only have one active at a time and had to switch in the shop if you want to use the others. Then came DMC 4 when you can switch styles on the fly like this is gonna make DMC 3 better but they havent thought of that yet so yeah, i think Normal Attack Cancel is not something they think about when they make Yoimiya
As a triple crowned Yoimiya main, I really enjoyed watching this video. It was very well made and covered a lot of issues that Yoimiya players (including myself) have been feeling for a long time. It's simultaneously frustrating and hope inducing that a lot of the issues w/ Yoimiya's kit are ones that could easly be fixed in a single beta w/ some developer TLC and gameplay mechanic refining. Maybe I'm snorting some serious Kokopium here, but I'm hoping that by spotlighting what fixes she needs and how relatively EASY it would be to implement them into her current kit, Hoyoverse will call her back into beta and rework her a little bit before her next rerun. (That, or maybe a new artifact set that gives AOE like Ningguang's C1) I also really liked that you highlighted ways to work around certain issues, and good teammates she can work with, that help her standing. I was expecting this video to be one of straight criticism, which wouldn't be completely unwarranted, but you also highlighted areas where she shines and areas where she has a lot of potential to shine given certain changes. I can tell that you genuinely are frustrated with Hoyoverse's decisionmaking regarding this character and want to make her better, and as a main who has been echoing the same complaints said in this video on surveys for months, it's refreshing to see a content creator acknowledge her issues w/o dismissing her power level as a unit entirely and/or make fun of her playerbase for continuing to play her. Anyways, sorry for the essay, I just have a lot of thoughts on this topic. Thank you so much for an amazing video Vars!
Why no one plays: A lot of people don't have her. She was over shadowed by Raiden and Ayaka (who has been a fan favorite since the CBT). Yoimiya's DPS potential is high and she has plenty of supports that work well with her (Kazuha, Bennett,Yun Jin, Ayato, Fischl, etc). She has been getting plenty of play especially with this new normal attack and boss abyss era. Very versatile in regards to artifact sets/ combinations and weapon choices as well. Internal cool down "issues", lackluster burst and single-target damage aside, she's great. Watch IWTL dps showdowns to see her work. I love using her in abyss and in the overworld to farm, because her prowess as a ranged dps is valuable.
She's a good example of a solid character l, that just doesn't have anything to make her stand out from the crowd. I don't have her, but when i trialed her it just felt lack luster, like there was something missing. Nothing super satisfying.
@@mozzy2968 lack luster? Like?… When I play her, she feels fine to me 🤷♂️ If she played like Klee, then I’ll say she felt lack luster too, but she doesn’t though. That’s just my opinion
@@averagemobileplayergfs7383 Not sure exactly, when I play Tartaglia there is all the effects happening and damage numbers filling my screen, with Hu Tao or Xiao, there are these massive numbers that happen. Yoimiya just didnt feel very satisfying. She did damage, but it didn't feel like I was doing damage. Idk how to descibe it better than that
@@mozzy2968 Lmao the trials are not showing a characters full potential. This is like getting klee because of an klee soloing video on youtube. Yes, Hu Tao can Dmg better bcz she can vaporise quickly. But when it comes to Yoimiya, vaporise or melt is not for her. She is just a raw dmg maker. You can use her on a overload team because thanks to her bow, you wont be effected by that knock back.
I main yoimiya. I finally crowned her auto. She's so good! I cat wait for ayato to come out cuz he would be such an amazing sub dps/ hydro applicator and atk speed buffer for her!
A character who uses fireworks has so much potential!! Idk why they couldn't have done more for her. She doesn't need to be strong. She just deserves a kit fitting her story and design.
A triple crowned yoimiya main here: I love my girl but I can say that I wasn't expecting this episode her lack of aoe weird burst working and no synergy with xingqiu (even thought i personally use her with kokomi) maked it obvious that yoimiya will be in this series. As much as i love her she deserves a buff not dmg wise (her dmg should be increaed on burst not with normal attacks) couse my yoimiya hits 40k on normal atack but for me mihoyo should give her: aoe,fix how she works with xingqiu,made her burst deal more dmg (for a 5 its just not enough) Sorry for my bad english i hope that was at least readable and i didnt trigger some british people here
With which team do you use her? Personally i have thundering pulse and a guranteed pity, and I was planning to use her with thoma yun jin and xingqiu. Should I change xingqiu? If yes who should I replace him with
@@anormalinsan6125 xingqiu dont work with yoimiya third normal atack if my memory serves i personally use her with: yoimiya,kokomi,sucrose,bennett. Sucrose can be replacable but my yoimiya has a low em
@@anormalinsan6125 Yoimiya does very good damage consistently. And she attacks fast so she can run with just a shielder and be very very decent. But Vape, Melt and Overload will help give her a bit of an extra kick. I like pairing her with Raiden, Xingqiu and Yae since their passive attacks can hit vertically like Yoimiya's.
As a Yoimiya main i recommend you ALWAYS use xiangling to actually get use of her burst. with xiangling you can keep triggering the explosion while still being on yoimiya to keep using auto attacks.
She has been my main DPS since I got her, and recently I'm running her in a turret team (Yoimiya, Bennet, Albedo, Zhongli) and it's the best team I've played so far. Rotations are flawless and she scales immensely with buffs and protection. Just got my R5 Rust this week and she hits like a truck!
Every character has their own situations they excel at. All depends on the enemy like the current Spiral Abyss where I prefer Yoimiya over Hu Tao. I main both btw. Rust is they key for Yoimiya if u don't have TP. She is versatile in terms of team comps. You can use overload, double pyro double geo, mono pyro, vaporize. I luv her and she is really really strong. I have C0 R5 Rust.
I only have C0 R1 Hamayumi (craftable bow). No billets for refinements and I also main Ganyu (Melt, sharing the one R1 Hamayumi I have). No, I don't have any 5-star bow.
I’ve always been surprised by Yoimiya’s design, as unlike Klee who does AOE with her attacks or Hu Tao who’s able to spread dmg quickly with her charge attacks and blood blossom, Yoimiya only has her burst for AOE, and it’s still not even that large. I had been thinking for a while to get her, and I still plan to, but it does still suck how she has little to no AOE, especially being someone associated with an explosion. I feel like one of the reasons she has problems is because compared to other characters she either doesn’t have enough range for a ranged character, or doesn’t have enough AOE. It’s really upsetting too, because for some characters you can tell they were designed in a way that works, like Hu Tao taking dmg with her skill and healing it with her burst. It works. But Yoimiya, forces you to either stay in and make most of her team off field dmg supports like Beidou, Fischl, or Xingqiu, which isn’t bad, but it removes options. Not saying Hu Tao or other characters don’t have similar problems as some have very strict best teams, like Hu Tao’s being Walnut. I kind of hate how it’s becoming a trend now too, where if a character has problems in their kit, they just force the kit to work with artifacts, especially because some characters would do better if they had a fixed kit AND good artifacts. Blizzard Strayer is a great example of a good artifact set, as cryo characters can focus more on crit dmg, than crit rate because of the massive boost in crit rate all the resonances and artifacts combined give. Its sad to look at how some characters are just being glossed over in favor of others.
hoyo does the kinda annoying thing where they create a problem (example any unit with er problems) and sell the solution (raiden/ei, aka the best battery in the game)
I'm a Yoimiya main. She definitely has her flaws but she's an absolutely amazing character (both playstyle and just her as a character). I didn't play w her when I first got her though because I didn't have Zhongli. But as soon as I got him and raised him, I was able to put then together.
@@shroomie002 no need for C1. You just have play better. C1 is just Quality of life and 20 percent dps increase. It is very good C1. But yoimiya still does worse. Actually yoimiya is far worse she need Yunjin C6 and Zhongli. Which is nothing compared to hu tao's C1. Who ER told you that you need C1 is chugging copious amounts of crack and copium. Xiangling C4 outdoes yoimiya for pure single target dps. If you want 4 star C6 comparisons then both itto with C6 gorou and Raiden with C6 kujou sara shit on Yoimiya's whole career. Even if you have Yunjin C6. I would rather learn to play hu tao than get perma staggered to death while missing half my shots and having shit mobility. The fact that zhongli is required is just insult to injury. I am not even bringing Ayaka into the equation who is basically an upgrade in very aspect.
Hi, I'm the op of the Reddit post you shouted out at the start and I appreciate the mention ^-^ glad yoimiya mains was helpful too, they certainly helped me a lot when I was writing the post. I just want to add that I think a few of my one points aren't as valid now as they were. Most notably, I criticized yoimiyas lack of options for different team compositions, but I think the opposite is true now. Between fischl teams, mono pyro, vape, and yunjin / geo, she has plenty of good options now. But she's still usually a weaker DPS choice for those supports anyway, as other DPS would get more value or have better synergies. In fact, even Yunjin, who looks like she was designed to work with Yoimiya, still isn't great for her, as yunjin buff isn't benefited by Yoimiya's Fire Dance multiplier. I'd also like to add that Yoimiya has benefitted from a sort of "reverse power creep." Over time, abyss has leaned more and more towards boss type enemies, which are usually single target only, thus removing her biggest caveat. However, even given that, she's still a worse single target dps choice than Raiden or Hu Tao.
It does seem like Yoimiya is getting a lot more usage now that Yelan and Yun Jin have been released. This 2.7 abyss cycle actually had her usage rate pretty high up. Overall, she's been benefitting from the way the game has been developing. A lot of the issues mentioned here still exist. But it seems like her high damage output potential due to recent team synergies make her downsides less noticeable.
I remember my friend yearning for Yoimiya and her bubbly personality but when she got her, she was so frustrated with Yoimiya’s playstyle that she completely benched her after a month or so
From the new event I can see why, against multiple enemies it gets difficult to play her but she is really great against single target enemies so I will give her credit for that
The problem is that Hu Tao already covers pyro single target dps and is really, really good at it. And she also needs Zhongli and has a similar personality.
@@galaxi6585 true but hutao has the catch where you have to loose HP to gain her DMG bonus which is somewhat of a problem for casual players who are not used to multitasking, not to mention the corrosion debuff that's been introduced. Also another disadvantage for casual players is the fact that Hutao's main source of DMG comes from charged attacks which are kinda hard to pull off. Some people just don't want to be bothered with that stuff since they play to relax. Yoimiya is definitely more easier to play because her whole playstyle is press left click. She's definitely more popular for some players who value stuff like this.
@@sanjeethmahendrakar Thing is you stack so much hp on hu tao that her 50% is what other chars have at 100%. It's only a problem when you are scared of seeing a red bar and with enemies that eat up your hp but they are rare.
@@kertelas4272 I think you misunderstand. My argument was that Yoimiya is better than hutao in terms of purely comfort. Hutao is definitely way better in terms of DPS but she's a pain to play with the HP management and charged attack cancelling, stamina management and the meta type shit you have to learn to play her properly.
@@sanjeethmahendrakar No i got it. That's why i said that hp thing is not a problem that reduces comfort because even at her 50% you still have just as much hp as you would normally have with other chars. And you don't have to be mindfull of going over 50% because in a fight you can only loose hp, not gain it unless you specififally sabotage yourself and bring a healer. And then there is her ult that can heal when you have too little hp just like you would heal any other char when they need it. With charge attack i agree, that may be annoying to some but i honestly find all charge attacks in genshin clunky and slow, especially bow and claymore users so is it really that much different?
Another Yoimiya main here, I’m glad you’re going over this stuff regardless. Even though I enjoy using her she’s definitely got some issues I hope Mihoyo/hoyoverse will one day fix. I also think it’s important that people know what they’re getting into if they decide to pull for her so that they can get the most value and enjoyment out of the game.
Adding AoE to her normal attacks with her skill active and reducing the internal cooldown on her burst would massively improve her damage without breaking the game. I enjoy the creativity that comes with building around her kit, but it would be nice if they fixed her up. One of my favorite characters.
Yoimiya feels like a character that just exists. She's not on the level of Tao to many, but my no means is she weak and is serviceable. She just exists in the meta
It's so sad to watch such enjoyable, unique and good-looking characters being ruined like that... Yoimiya is only one within the many... I just can't stand it.
You were right on a lot of points, but funnily enough, you missed others just like Yoimiya does. 3:20 All characters have consistent damage with bursts/peaks that are either reactions or their abilities. Yanfei's DMG peaks are on her Charged Attacks, much like Hu Tao's. Diluc's peaks are on his Skill procs and initial burst cast, with his NAs Vaping every now and then. We don't talk about Klee's peaks and neither will Xinyan who barely has any. And I won't mention Xiangling because all of her damage is a consistent peak in comparison to everyone else. 4:16 Thing is... Bow users barely use their weapons, lol. A good portion simply uses their skill and burst. As you mentioned, Yoimiya exemplifies the issue because she's the only one that relies on NAs. The worst part is, because she's prone to stagger a lot, and moves backwards when attacking, you oftentimes need to dash towards the enemies, but if you dash before completing her whole ATK sequence, you'll mess up her ICD and with that her DMG straight up tanks. 6:56 ATK SPD doesn't matter because of ICD. All melee and ranged users don't have this issue because CAs have no ICD, but Bows take longer to do that, and Yoimiya's are really bad. 7:08 And like, yeah her Burst sucks, but it's still DMG nonetheless + 20% ATK to your team. You won't always be on Yoimiya so it kinda acts as a way to close her rotation and start again. It is less bad in Burgeon teams although they don't take as much advantage of the ATK bonus. It also helps to Swirl both Pyro and Hydro with Kazuha so... it ain't as bad as we all thought, but it's still not that good. Also, that Eula clip it's... just don't. You're painting it as if her Burst will always do 5M DMG and everyone will think that she's broken which... No xD. There were a lot of things involved in order to boost her Burst, and that can be applied to Yoimiya as well in order to force big PP damage onto her Burst. There's no real reason to compare the both as they fulfil different roles and have different properties. Not every 5-star Burst needs to be a Nuke, stop it. 10:12 You talk about characters who attempt to do a bit of everything but often fail because they lack focus and with that, they cannot fulfil a proper role. If you see that Yoimiya is an exclusive single-target DPS, regardless if she's a firework maker or not, why would one try for AoE onto her? Xingqiu/Yelan/Fischl are also single-target, Itto has barely any AoE, Hu Tao/Eula despite having some AoE excel the most at single-target. 10:52 It's all a matter of personal preferences tbh. Yoimiya is exclusively single-target, but she's easy to play all things considered, and her output is still quite high in comparison to others. Some would rather play her over Hu Tao/Diluc/Yanfei because they like her gameplay more, and that's valid. 11:40 You can watch Zajef77 for a way better explanation but basically: If you remove her ICD, then it would mean all her attacks would trigger reactions, right? But because you're applying Pyro way too fast, you won't have enough Hydro/Electro to Vape/Overload and instead end up with your supports causing the reactions. That's elemental gauge for ya.
Yoimiya is my favourite DPS character, Xiao and Childe are close 2nd and 3rd. Unfortunately long cd on skill, ult reliance on both, and getting one shot mid attack makes them worse.
The more characters, weapons, even artifacts that get released, the more I realize Hoyoverse's Genshin Impact team are like Digital Extremes - they throw $#!% at the wall and see what sticks. They have the vaguest sense of what they want to make, but they have no idea how to make it. Uber powerful characters are just as accidental as deeply flawed characters, and it's only on occasion they manage to stumble into genius. Redhorn Stonethresher basically shores up weaknesses in Xinyan and Noelle while being made for Itto. But likewise, it's like they intentionally sabotage their profit margins. Everlasting Moonglow might have been *decent* if it increased charged attacks as well as normals...
This video instantly got my attention since Yoimiya just so happens to be one of my best characters. And yup, the problems mentioned here check out - no arguments from me. Also, I never use her burst cause there's no reason for me to, with her at C0. That and the scaling is.... meh That said though, she remains one of my favorite characters despite having some random and quite nonsensical flaws, such as her burst *requiring* other party members to hit an enemy for it to go off.
Curious question vars. How would you design dendro and its reactions? I imagine it being like grass type in pokemon where each reaction applies a different status effect. But that would probably be horrible mechanics. This could make for an interesting video
I'm hoping that the Burning (Damage over time pyro reaction) that dendro slimes use is a reaction we can proc in the future, because if so, Yoimiya will be an A++ driver for future Dendro/Pyro teams
It might be something that amplifies elemental reactions considering how dendro currently reacts with overload(after using electro on a burning dendro slime you would notice the reaction produced is slightly different as compared to the normal overload)
Atm the only reaction we know is pyro + dendro = rapid fire damage over time. Here's some of my ideas: hydro + dendro = poison damage that shreds defense. Cryo + dendro = enemy is rooted/slowed and can't move (they can still swing their weapon, but root can't be broken with claymore/geo like frozen reaction can) Electro + dendro = corrosion that shreds armor or maybe a burst like vapor/melt. I think reactions that buff our characters would also be quite interesting, like hydro + dendro = healing over time for your character (regeneration). Or if it has to be offensive then apply mark on the enemy that gives you lifesteal (like Qiqi's talisman, but then it would make her even less relevant... buff Qiqi :F ).
@@ZiiiZero Going off what you said, I think it'd sound better if the cryo + dendro would prevent movement from that spot, but also slow enemy attack speed. cryo already slows movement on it's own. Also, i always felt like one interaction with dendro should give an elemental resistance shred, like how cryo + electro acts like a phys shred. How to pull that off is a different story though. but giving that reaction to electro + dendro would make less people say "buff electro" (even though electro + hydro is THE best reaplication reaction in the game that even allows others to reapply faster)
@@ZiiiZero I'm hoping for a synergy element that can make swirling easier to get off. I'm thinking that Dendro + Pyro / Cryo / Hydro / Electro gives an in-place effect (as opposed to an effect on a monster) that affects other monsters (or allies) that touch the effect. It'd build some field strategy for gameplay.
You know, if they made her skill deal slight AoE with the basic attack and the ult being able to do a bigger AoE with less damage but marks multiple targets, I think she could have been better
Adding to the point where she is a fireworks maker with no booms. Have her skill shoot set AoE fire arrows (like her first one specifically) or they have a 50% to explode. I like the 50% because it is like the unpredictable nature of fireworks as you never know when they’ll detonate. Also, here burst is just dumb. Make it a bigger hit box, so multiple enemies can have the effect. Have her able to proc it herself and yeah, boom boom boom. Honestly, most fixes are literally so easy it is genuinely baffling how they are not done. Hoyo tea doesn’t even need to think for themselves because us players already know and constantly tell them the problems and how to fix them.
A tip for anyone wanting to build/boost their Yoimiya's damage: MELT YOIMIYA Requirements: Yoimiya, C6 Diona Team: Yoimiya, Diona, Rosaria, Bennett Basically, exploit Diona's C6 that boosts your EM by 200. Use Diona and Roasaria to apply Cryo, Benny burst to boost damage, and just stack ER on all three supports. Crit Rate on Rosaria, HP on Bennett and Diona. For artifacts, I'd recommend EoSF on Rosaria, Noblesse on Diona/Bennett, and either 4pc SR or 2pc Atk% and 2pc CWoF. Spam all support bursts before switching to Yoi and using her E. My personal record for a single hit with this comp is ~130k, but I've seen higher (I am using R5 Rust).
@@lostblueboy Good point, I agree, I use that only because MHY still hasn't given us artifact preset slots and I use those characters on other teams as well so I'm too lazy to change them. Farming multiple sets for each character is annoying. But honestly idk who you'd want to not be on NO, since some people might want to use Yunjin instead of Bennett. So in that case, Diona should have NO, otherwise only Bennett should.
I don't have Yoimiya, though I did play her in one of the events. She seems to be very good at single target damage, but her real problems is the lack of strong AOE (unlike melee fighters) and that her normal attacks have ICD that prevents frequent melt/vapes. In contrast Hu Tao's charge attacks have an ICD of 0.5 seconds and Diluc doesn't have ICD for his skill.
I triple crowned her and even gave her the most time for the best artifacts compared to other characters. and my only opinion about her is she is indeed suck, but not because of her problem but the game in general. no aim lock on enemy unit in Genshin is one of the biggest issue with her and the biggest reason why i discourage people from getting her until devs implement it. also, she indeed need her skill passive a total revamp. the fact that she will reset her passive if she move is the most ridiculous thing about her considering she will need to reposition once in a while. her burst is a waste of a burst. practically and visually. like bruh, she's known for her massive fireworks but when using burst, she's just lamely throw firecracker sized sparklers on the ground and having ridiculously small AoE radius. hope Hoyo really buff her in the future before her rerun. if Zhongli buff is possible, why not other characters?
No one needs to teach Mihoyo how to design a good character. They know it better than anyone out there. They employ brilliant mathematicians who can make calculations that will ensure that a character hits a precise sweet spot between underpowered and overrpowered. What Mihoyo spends time going over is not how to build good characters, but how to build bad ones, so that the few "good" characters out there will yield the greatest possible profits for them. It's a profit-driven business, not one that will truly care for its player base. It doesn't take too long to notice that many caveats negatives we see in Genshin are there not because of developmental oversight, but because they were intentionally placed there to piss the player off. Even with the 2.8 weapon banner for Yoimiya. Why wouldn't the developers put rust in the banner? Obviously if they did, who on earth would still pull for Thundering Pulse? So when a character is weak/trash/bad, its not because that Mihoyo can't make them good, but more because they don't want to.
She suffers a lot of limitation in game mechanic. I pulled her C1 with Thundering Pulse, but she is easily benched. Lore wise she can make hundred metres diameters of fire work, but has 0 AoE damage for gameplay.
You can get AoE damage from her by using Venti burst + Raiden Shogun elemental skill. Ohh i forget, maybe you don't have both 😂😂, i am sorry but i have both plus zhongli as the shield then you can see another archon supremacy inside yoimiya
As someone who is studying game design, this stuff hurts my soul Like, how the heck did Yoimiya make it all the way through development, quality assurance testing, Closed Beta testing, and release, apparently without _anyone_ realizing how deeply flawed her kit was?? It boggles my mind.
Taking advantage of normal attacks instead of charged shots is a good and new concept for bow users. It’s just that in practice it is not that applicable. As Vars said before, a massive nuke is more powerful than a death of a thousand cuts. Therefore Yomiya who shoots many times with her elemental skill is still overshadowed by one shot characters like Ganyu and Hu Tao
Seeing Yoimiya's sales and subpar kit makes me die inside, considering they made Ayaka so OP Its like they gave her less and less attention in the beta, whilst putting all their effort into making Ayaka arguably the best unit in the game 💀
My Yoimiya kills bosses faster than anyone else (with the exception of Signora). She also doesn't have to chase after enemies the way melee units do. She can stand in Bennett's burst and always hit "someone". The rapid-fire bow user is a classic character archetype in every rpg with a huge player/fan base. In any MMO, the most popular character with female players is always the archer. Honestly, Yoimiya does the job just fine.
You know what they should do, remove resin system completely, they still have the banners to earn enough and also going resin free, encourages people to try every character they own, which will make them get more characters, which will make hoyoverse earn more, so the resin system is the reason why no one plays units with bad kits
It hurts me as a yoimiya main and a fan of kana ueda's but it's still interesting to see what's got in stall for vars detailed analysis and explanation on genshin characters. Still love yoimiya no matter what's in this video.
She had potential to be Pyro Ganyu levels of damage. I can see her charged attack doing Ganyu levels of damage as it adds extra shots of Pyro. I really like her design.
Because of terrible banner placement. Her first banner was sandwiched between Ayaka and Raiden, her second ran right next to Kazuha and her third was simultaneous with Nahida
I have her paired with Shogun and it is scary how good she can be when you give her slight aoe. The only problem with overcharge is no longer an issue because she can use range and she now does AOE damage with most hits.
@@niqblackett it was just my explanation to why it works? Overload is bad because of knockback, it also supplies bursts of aoe damage, Shogun is the best Electro applier. That is all?
I'm a Yoimia main and agree with everything you said. I'm still having fun, however with my favorite set up of Thoma (C6), Jean (C2), Fischl (C6) with Yoimia. I know it's constellation heavy, but it's just all around fun to play
i love yoimiya, i triple crowned her just few weeks after her release. she got many issues.. shame that it is very unlikely for her to get buffed. i dont think hoyoverse gonna buff someone other than zhongli
Yoimiya is one of the DPS I have more fun playing with and I LOVE HER TIL THE DEEPEST OF MY HEART but I agree: she needs a shield, it would be perfect if she has the same passive as Itto (not reseting her combo because, holy crap, the last arrow hurts A TON), if she doesn't have an internal cooldown that would be great and YES, HER BURST IS BASICALLY USELESS FOR REAL :") I always forgot she has a burst, BUUUUUUT... Her kit is so straight-foward and her AA being infused with pyro is so convenient you just take her and go, it's really nice once you get used ;-;
@@owowonn I mean his burst gives NA atk speed buff right (yoimiya intensifies), that's how I thought of him as support. But yes the icd in his burst is kinda long, unlike ganyu's
@@kigeniru it was changed to normal atk bonus, but yea, but he's still not that great of a sub dps. his burst duration may be longer than ganyu's, but it's icd is terrible and so is the dmg. the only support it'd be for yoimiya is the buff, but nothing else sadly.
@@mushyroom4058 weyt what really? mb I didn't know they changed it already ;-; yeah ig so now, for me his E is the only one thing left thats cool in his kit ;c
yoimiya is very frustrating to hear about. one of my favourite personalities but it's really hard to hear about all the flaws she has. especially the no-aoe thing...like wtf...
Was waiting to watch this. Great informational video! Even with all the things wrong with her I still main her. She is my only character I have tripled crowned. She is just overall fun for me!
Here I am, 1 year later after making of this video, consistently doing 36* in 4.0 abyss without a shield and dendro in team. 1: Kazu, Benny, Yoi, Xq 2: Sucrose, Koko, Ayaya, Shenhe And, pain and suffering due to no dendro teams and fully dodging the whole sumeru new characters arc. Ty for putting light on Yoi still
I think making a unit op isn't a problem, this game basically is just for relaxing, it's not those serious games like god of war Valkyrie fights , I mainly play because I am emotionally attached to these characters and like to play with them , outside the abyss, no unit is required to do good damage, but still their kits shouldn't be this frustrating, i know for a fact her burst should never be used.
I absolutely love her design and personality, and she does good damage when your hits connect, however the constant missing is super inconsistent and I think her burst is mediocre at best (also inconsistent with connecting with enemies) it would be incredible if her burst was like childe’s riptide
gonna be honest like even though i will be pulling for yoimiya when she reruns again bc her personality/animations are LOVELY, i still recognize she has some flaws and may not be an attractive option to most players (esp right before raiden like that was so sad)
I adore her character and design so I just pulled for Yoimiya in the current banner and got her! Going to build a team around her when I get the chance and I won't regret it, but I'm also not very worried about the meta in this game either
Yeah, Yoimiya just has too many disadvantages. Her burst is lackluster, she suffers from the drawbacks of being a bow user, and her attack chain getting interrupted trashes her damage. Worst part is how those things can interact. For example, if you have her paired with a C6 Fischl, the following situation you can happen: you have your burst on an enemy, and Fischl's C6 should let you trigger the burst, except the auto-aim decides to shoot another target. You could fix this with a sprint, except that interrupts the attack chain. The single target nature is also a huge drawback, as well. I do like her charged shot, though. Sure, it isn't useful in combat, most of the time, but it is a nice touch, flavor-wise, while still adding a bit of niche utility. Just a shame an equal amount of love that went into giving her that didn't go into the rest of her kit. That said, Kokomi without the -100% crit rate would be broken. Crazy high hp, healing, hydro (setting up freeze, evaporate, and/or electro-charged), and hten crits on top of that? Of course, without it, she doesn't scale enough with gear, and that means she has a low ceiling. She does need a little something that lets her scale a bit more with another sub-stat, besides hp%. But the -crit rate thing is fine.
I enjoy Yoimiya without shields and I do think she is in need of a buff. Her ultimate should have cluster bomb capabilities on activation and larger explosions on the follow up blasts. Fire dance should activate explosions dealing pyro damage consistently and very often like if you were to get a no cooldown skyward harp and her kindling arrows should be bullet speed small explosives that deal more damage. I would totally take less normal damage to see these effects
