Which grading company grades the toughest? PSA vs BGS vs SGC

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In this sports card grading video, I give my opinion (backed by data), which grading company gives out the toughest grades. Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
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@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

***As mentioned in the video, we are looking at a very broad data set. Plenty of nuance as always!

@Ryanstu 2 года назад

We posted a more detailed breakdown today to help provide better insight into that nuance.

@davidhughes113 2 года назад

Yeah sgc gets a lot more older cards so of course they’re going to have less cards grade out at 10 PSA not having a 9.5 and bgs gem being a 9.5 kind of tweaks the numbers here a bit too

@andrewmarks4640 2 года назад

Not all psa 10s are equal….some could be 9s or 9.5s. PSA is known for controlling 9:10 ratio for some popular inserts. Bgs black label or pristine is still the gold standard.

@pete5691 2 года назад

The pristine is more rare but not really sought after. It’s too rare to really be collectable. Beckett took a gamble and lost on 9.5 being their gem mint.

@ladybughummingbird66 2 года назад

BGS is touch although they have the highest Gem rate. Beckett is true to the grade.

@chrishayes4166 2 года назад

SGC being historically vintage heavy skews their number, BGS being very modern heavy (not sure if this % includes BVG which is their vintage offshoot) skews theirs and PSA being the whale company with the mix of modern and vintage makes sense in the middle as well. Historically I recall BGS being perhaps a little tougher on centering than PSA, cracking BGS 9.5's with decent looking 9 centering was a profitable move for a little while. PSA while not necessarily the hardest, have recently become the most wildly inconsistent grader, as noted by many well established youtubers and I've seen it in my small sample of two recent returns. Both mid-late 90's basketball, one was relatively on par with expectations with a few "generous" surprises, and the other was consistently a grade lower than expectation. It's a bit of a roulette wheel on which grader you get unfortunately as they expand and grow their grading staff.

@sportscardyankee2151 2 года назад

I personally think PSA should start Drug Screening there Graders cause I've seen some 10's that I have no clue how they came up with that Grade to be honest

@sportscardyankee2151 2 года назад

Or Test there 👁 's before they Hire them 😆

@ladybughummingbird66 2 года назад

Every card I've every sent to BGS. I received the grade I expected to get. I inspect my cards over and over and over. Usually it takes me sometime to inspect my cards. Because you could miss something. I log each defect and the location of the defect as I inspect the card. Once I feel l've inspected the card throughly I give it a grade.

@connorsherman535 2 года назад

This would be an awesome video to see. I inspect my cards as well but I’m a absolute newbie to grading so I’ve held off.

@pete5691 2 года назад

That would be a cool video.

@robdemare8250 2 года назад

Hi Dusty, I am commenting before watching your video...IMO, I would say that SGC grades the most consistent (possibly the hardest) unless we're talking about old label BGS cards...easiest company was PSA, because they were VERY forgiving on off centered cards; although the community has complained that their standards have become more strict as of late...I'll now enjoy the video; thanks for putting this together!

@NEO_Cards_Comics 2 года назад

There are a million factors to consider here drawing any conclusion from these broad numbers.

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

A good conversation starter :)

@Daltonnicolas13 2 года назад

Not a good comparison at all. Sgc is a huge company for vintage but they don’t see as much modern, Beckett gets almost no vintage which is why they’re so high and psa gets a mix of everything which is why they’re in the middle.

@user-vb5mr5lo4n 2 года назад

Accurate I agree . Good video !

@rickellsmore8731 2 года назад

When I think of card grading, I believe its more on the individual grader, not the company. It’s a subjective/evaluation process. I do like to see consistency in the process and hope the companies do a better job moving forward.

@robertwyatt8429 2 года назад

Wonder if BGS includes BVG numbers for their vintage grading.

@tracycampbell9629 2 года назад

This is my top list # 1 SGC STARTED THE year of 1998 location in N.Y. of using a 100 point grading scale. The Thuffest scale 💪! Now they are using a 10 point scale. = # 2 Beckett STARTED the year of 2000 DALLAS TX # grading cards👍 # 3 PSA GRADING 1999. # 4 GMA GRADING.

@MG-FS_Sports_Cards 2 года назад

Nice conversation starter. I think if someone would take 10 popular cards and compared the 3, it would give you a better indication. I guess my thing is not which one grades the toughest, but is the most consistent. From my experience though, and I still haven't graded anything with BGS or SGC yet, CSG grades the toughest, followed by HGA and then PSA. Keep up the nice work

@ryanra44 2 года назад

HGA?

@pete5691 2 года назад

@@ryanra44 They are relatively new. Hybrid grading approach. Take 5k cards at a time but supposedly fell behind on turnaround times still which sorta upset some people. Apparently also something about a fake card that got through but honestly that has happened to them all I’m sure.

@pete5691 2 года назад

SGC is good. Website is easy, slab is nice and grading has seemed reasonable. Ultimately I think without notes sent back with each card, which would probably increase times and cost, how can consistency be truly evaluated? It would take hundreds of cards at least per grader with a third party reviewer.

@ryanra44 2 года назад

@@pete5691 it wasn’t just a fake card that got through. It was numerous fake cards that got through and a couple of literally made up Mahomes auto cards that weren’t even part of the set they graded. Their quality control on their slabs isn’t good as well. I tried them out. Terrible experience. Would never use them again. 3 of the slabs were bowed, 1 was cracked, one of the cards was mislabeled, and I paid for 30 business day turnaround and it took 81 business days. They then offered to refund my shipping for having to wait, then said they wouldn’t, and said the person that told me that shouldn’t have told me that even though I got it in writing. It’s a clown show over there. I would be shocked if they ever got a reasonable market share. The slabs don’t hold much value on the resale market to boot

@ryanra44 2 года назад

@@pete5691 put it this way. I know a SGC group submitter that has cracked hundreds of cards out of PSA/BGS slabs to regrade them with SGC. BGS matches up pretty close for what I have seen. PSA can be a crap shoot sometimes. PSA allows for more tolerance on centering based on their own guidelines compared to BGS & SGC. I recently buy a HGA 9 because they gave the card a 8.5 on centering and I knew the centering was flawless based on BGS and SGC 10s I have seen. So I cracked it out and sent it to SGC and it got a 10. HGA has a long way to go before they are as accurate and trusted as the big 3. For grading accuracy I would use BGS or SGC

@sabinoruiz2080 2 года назад

Great video and great information

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

Thanks Sabino!

@ladybughummingbird66 2 года назад

Beckett 1999.

@wickerman4609 2 года назад

Correct!!!!

@lanceinpants22 2 года назад

Dustin whatever you did with the lighting makes a big (good) difference!

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

Thanks man! Got lucky with some good natural light from the window

@cbcarmack128 2 года назад

Would it be fair to throw BVG in together with BGS since since they're the same and since vintage is included? Lol! That might change some calculations. Thought I would throw a curve ball. Lol! Great video as always.

@diversifiedcollectibles9242 2 года назад

That's a really good point because psa and sgc include the vintage.. Whereas bgs does not they are under bvg, Could really change the data and bring that 38% down significantly

@ryanmcclanahan8739 2 года назад

If they graded Pre-War cards from England, the majority would be 8 and above. I always go for the card and not the grade, though I think if I were to look at my graded vintage stuff, most of it is SGC. I've heard that Beckett is the tougher grade of all, followed by SGC?

@anthonypizzo9375 Год назад

I like PSA, CSG, CGC, and SGC. I have a ton a Beckett graded cards, but not a big fan a the cases how they have so many different labels..

@craigrichardson6027 2 года назад

I have submitted with all three companies and my experience lines up with this data.

@JoseContreras-gz8ny 2 года назад

Please do a video on the new grading companies such as: ISA, CSG, and HGA

@mheyn11 2 года назад

Not familiar with ISA, but CSG hasn't released their pop report yet (coming soon), and HGA's pop report is a NIGHTMARE. Misspellings, redundant sets, etc.

@thecardclosetcanada5443 2 года назад

3 things that I see could influence this is 1) SGC does (or did) a pile of vintage so no 10s there. 2) PSA has no 9.5, and they get used most for ultra modern so more 10s there. 3) people send "perfect" cards to BGS hoping for a gold 10 or black label 10 grade. So I'd think they would have the most gem mint.

@cardboardcheddah3715 2 года назад

BGS then CSG or HGA. I’ve only seen a handful of 10’s from the new competitors and BGS has specialized in being critical,imo.

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

Agree with you on CSG, I've heard and seen their grades as very tough

@pete5691 2 года назад

Do people want tough or fair? It’s also different based on who you are, the seller, the buyer or simply a collector? When I send cards in I don’t want the toughest because my 9 might be the other guys 10. However as the buyer/collector you want the best card. At the end of the day it is a hobby not a science and subjectivity will always be present.

@troys_collectibles9811 2 года назад

Thanks for the video. Kinda assumed Gem rates from the years I was in the hobby. Knew that SGC graded the hardest and their value should be closer to PSA sales.....doesn't make sense. Always had the impression that BGS was soct with their grading. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day.

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

Hope all is well Troy!

@marcengel4394 2 года назад

You don't know what you think you know and your impression is incorrect. Have a great day

@larrygitlin6017 2 года назад

In early grading I thought Beckett was the toughest. Beckett is mainly modern cards why high gem rate. SGC is still the most consistent with vintage and now with the addition of so many new graders at PSA , I do not trust anything they do. Watched Kris, Baseball collector Dealer, do a PSA opening box, and it was not pretty as what he predicted and judged from the past wasn't close to the grades he got.

@BigfootBreaks 2 года назад

The cheese grater grates the toughest in my experience. 😎🧀🐭

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

lol

@ProfessorWillow 9 месяцев назад

Sgc always hits me with the 9.5 on perfect cards

@mrj9881 2 года назад

Would like a year by year further breakdown especially since how psa is much stricter

@tubenachos 2 года назад

SGC is tough man holy cow

@jacoblarsen7309 Месяц назад

I think sgc 10s are the best cards just my opinion

@comingnhot480 Год назад

BGS was founded 1984 and began grading in 99.

@alfg7793 2 года назад

SGC SO hard to get a 10 compared to psa

@ladybughummingbird66 2 года назад

I think those of use that use Beckett are more serious submitters. Some of the PSA submitter are just throwing cards to the wind. In hope to flip cards.

@JohnWilliams-wz9vk 2 года назад

Psa ..fire sales...next ..12...months

@ASMRPeople 2 года назад

It is interesting data however as you say there is plenty of nuance. Nobody submits vintage to bgs. Back in the day bgs & bvg were considered separate things. If you submitted a vintage card via bgs service they graded it too hard. Cards submitted to bvg were graded easier than psa or sgc. Speaking of sgc prior to 2020 few people submitted modern card to them in fact sgc was best known for pre-war. Of course psa has always been a jack of all trades. If you look at the most graded sets by psa you see 1961 topps ranks high. Psa has graded a lot of vintage commons.

@tiggerz3574 2 года назад

None I have Seen in my hands cards that where 9.5 or 10 and they by just the eye test where not that, do the old way by what you like the look of. Once it gets slabbed is not full proof on that opinion.

@jrodjdcollectibles5930 2 года назад

To get your BGS rate accurate, you have to back out all bgs gems with any 9 or less sub grades. 9.5 or higher on all 4 subs is the only a true gem (equivalent to psa 10 or sgc 10).

@diversifiedcollectibles9242 2 года назад

While on paper you have a good point but a "true gem" is really subjective to some degree.. there have been alot of bgs gem mint's with 3x9.5 and 1x9 that have been cracked out and sent to psa and graded out a psa 10 "true gem" so one grader at bgs might say a card has 3x9.5 and 1x9 whereas someone over at psa or sgc might say otherwise, so it can vary from person to person when talking mint to gem mint, It is a small margin between the two and very subjective from person to person and grader to grader

@Flippinginthecarolinas 2 года назад

csg grades are tough to bad I hate their slabs

@Cyber_Leaper1 Год назад

I'm sorry to hear that you've had a negative experience with CSG and their grading standards. I can definitely understand the frustration of getting a tough grade on a card, but I would encourage you to give AGS Card Grading a try. Their grading standards are also very rigorous, but their grading reports are incredibly detailed and informative, and their encapsulation process is top-notch. Overall, I think AGS offers a very high-quality grading service that's definitely worth checking out.

@Al-um9mj 2 года назад

Hi there, always interesting to compare them. I have sent couple subs to CSG and they appear to be harder to get a 10s than any of the others 😅

@LasVegasCollectibles 2 года назад

CSG

@donchounard5252 2 года назад

25% is appalling. Tens command such a premium. Most of the unveils and friends who send in cards rarely get 10s especially when you point out the factors of vintage grades. Its hard for me to bullish on the overall sports card market when its so top end heavy

@pete5691 2 года назад

Think about this, shouldn’t most pack fresh cards be basically tens? I mean I find it sorta shitty when I get a great pull auto and then it’s way off centered.

@jonathanhaston2562 2 года назад

How do you know if you don't personally grade your cards. Personal opinion or experience would be better video just saying!!!

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

SGC submission coming back in about a month, I’m in the game! lol

@LambeauLeeeper 2 года назад

This is a tough debate. Its not the grading company. Its the Grader. Its like every job in the world. You could have a top notch super worker and than 59 average workers. Same thing goes for grading. Whether its PSA or HGA. It all depends on the grader.

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

Yes! 50 shades of grey! :) lol so much nuance

@Flippinginthecarolinas 2 года назад

tie breaker 1st lol

@tyleryurasits9352 2 года назад

I can't speak for modern. But if you ask any vintage collector who deals in graded cards, they will tell you currently SGC is the toughest, Beckett(BVG)grades the easiest, and PSA is somewhere in the middle.

@talesofthecrypt-o4980 2 года назад

I like sgc the best. Dont care if psa sell for more. Sgc looks better.

@Pilts82 2 года назад

Toughest = HGA

@Woodcabin 2 года назад

Why not compare CGC & CSG , they are some of the most repped graders cuz they are #1 for comics

@TheSportsCardDad 2 года назад

Agreed, they have come on strong 💪

@michaelbassett5105 2 года назад

Whoever thought of this dead collectible grading scam is a genius.

@berganmay 2 года назад

PSA doesn't actually grade the card

@RiskyRich_Gaming 2 года назад

Centering should not count. That's the manufacturer's fault. Maybe they should wear some corrective lenses before they cut the cards unevenly.

@starfox1698 2 года назад

I understand the eye appeal argument for judging center but you're right, it's weird to consider the centering of the card when grading the condition of the card. No reason an off center card couldn't technically be in pristine condition, but like I said I understand why it matters to collectors.

@talesofthecrypt-o4980 2 года назад

Rather have a psa 7 not off centered no gum stain then a 10 with gum stain and off centered

@lothar52 2 года назад

First!

@frankschneider9040 2 года назад

This video is very flawed. Since SGC has been the grader over history for vintage and pre war you will expect way further gems. Psa which does both well you expect their rate and Beckett which is mainly all modern earns their rate. So back to the drawing board. Without in-depth study this is useless.

@mheyn11 2 года назад

The clear market value leader (PSA) would definitely skew with more gems. Experienced submitters who know how to pre-screen will send probable gems to PSA only.

@marcengel4394 2 года назад

Completely false. BGS 10 pristine is king, as well it should, and always will be

@mheyn11 2 года назад

@@marcengel4394 BGS pristine 10s are a luck of the draw. Such a tiny percentage of those will hit, that it is not worth the value drop to BGS 9.5. There may be a couple of people in the hobby that could correctly identify BGS 10s consistently, but that is extremely rare.

@marcengel4394 2 года назад

@@mheyn11 the 'value drop' is only because there are a large number of idiot sheep who just chase a market value. Those people who think a PSA 10 is any more gem Mint then even a bare minimum BGS 9.5 are blind dolts who can't or are too afraid to think for themselves. As a COLLECTOR, I will always go BGS. There's going to come a point when PSA values come down to earth and the hobby collective becomes wiser. And I'm here for all of that. People will be cracking PSA 10's out and resubbing to BGS just like back in the early to mid 2000's.

@mheyn11 2 года назад

@@marcengel4394 I agree. I sent my bulk order to CSG to try them out. They're pretty strict, and it is criminal how cheap their slabs are in the open market. Tough, fair, accurate grading and authentication should command around the same price in the open market. Right now, it doesn't, and I don't like it either.