Which Jet is Better? - FMS Rafale vs Freewing Eurofighter v3

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The best jet of 2022 was the FMS Rafale 80mm - but the newest Freewing Eurofighter v3 is a solid contender. Which jet wins? Ultimately it's always up to personal preference, but we think you'll be surprised.
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0:00 Takeoff Roll Comparison
0:50 Landing & High Alpha Comparison
2:00 Pitch Agility & Barrel Roll Comparison
2:50 Rafale Flight w/ SMC 4400 LiHV
7:09 Rafale Minimum Radius Turn to Landing
7:49 Eurofighter Overview
9:07 Eurofighter Flight w/ SMC 4400 LiHV
12:55 Eurofighter Landing
14:00 Rafale Flight w/ SMC 4500 LiPo
17:45 Rafale Landing
18:17 Eurofighter Flight w/ SMC 4400 LiHV
22:50 Eurofighter Landing
23:28 Eurofighter vs Rafale Comparison

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Комментарии : 81

@fmsmodelRC Год назад

Awesome! We look forward to this comparison.

@ArthurRC Год назад

I’m sure FMS Rafale 80mm will win 🥳

@ariela.6168 2 месяца назад

Great video, loving the comparison between these two particular plane. So alike but yet so different. Thanks

@nirlachman007 Год назад

Great video Jon! It’s also worth mentioning that besides their performance comparison, there Eurofighter costs almost 150$ more AFAIK

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Great point!

@Gniggaaa Год назад

@@Bill14886 I wish the 64mm had retractable gears😢

@502stingray Год назад

This is a GREAT review! I own the Rafale and was debating on the Eurofighter, but I believe that I am going to stick to my Rafale and be happy. I love the maneuverability, and landings are immense fun, now that I've learned to land this thing properly. I may mod the canards for more maneuverability and then I'll be a happy. Thanks for this review, that was exactly what I was looking for. 👍

@3BrothersRC Год назад

FANTASTIC 🎉 LOVE THAT YELLOW SCHEME!

@AmauryJetschannel 9 месяцев назад

Great video thank you 🙏

@williamhammond3998 Год назад

At last. I’ve been anticipating this one

@SuperMagnum2011 3 месяца назад

Your a great inspiration to throw these planes about . We can try to emulate your aerobatic manoeuvres and try and throw caution to the wind ,a bit 😁. Thank you again, great comparisons. I own both. Love both aircraft.😎 🇬🇧

@ModelAV8RChannel Год назад

Looks like you had fun Jon. I go the Deion Sanders route...BOTH! Lol. It's sad you have to work around the dreaded "Blue Box" to get the gear to cycle in less than a week with the EF. Great looking Jet though. Nice detailed comparison.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

It's unfortunate that FW still thinks it's acceptable to have a 30 second gear delay *per cycle*, but thankfully you can work around it. It would be nice to see them start moving their electronics into the 2020s and upgrade the voltage the retracts can handle, too. 5v retracts don't play well with 6v systems.

@travisjacobus3381 Год назад

Great comparison of these 2 awesome Doritos 😅. You are making me want to spend more money that I don’t have.

@bohan9957 Год назад

They really need to get rid of these tiger schemes. The year of the Tiger is over. Please give us an alternative scheme for both jets.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

It would be nice to see something else for a change.

@tonyyimbo Месяц назад

With the current trend of 64mm I’m betting a donut that a 64mm typhoon comes out

@TwoBrosRC Месяц назад

👀

@smokeymountainrctravisThompson Год назад

Both jet are amazing. Have you thought about doing a review on the mirage 2000 80MM from freewing. I have it, and it is an high alpha beast.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We've considered it!

@Infinityxero 11 месяцев назад

I love the Rafale but I'd have to go with the Euro Fighter on this one for it's overall stability.

@davidgerlach1132 2 месяца назад

It's interesting the wingload on the Rafale is 43.8g/dm^2 less than the Eurofighter, and 720g flying weight less (w/5000mah 6s). Clearly the Rafale has the advantage in obedience and agility.

@BladeScraper Год назад

Thanks for the vid. I still can't decide between the two, but I am leaning towards the Eurofighter after watching this. Seems like the 90mm EDF is a serious upgrade compared to the 80mm Rafale. I'm wondering how hard it would be to modify the elevons and make them full span? Perhaps that's something you'll try some day. I also noticed Freewing *used* to sell a thrust vector version of the Eurofighter... I would like to see if it's possible to re-add TV to the new version (this one) that doesn't have it.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

It would be a significant amount of work and it would look goofy because the Eurofighter's elevons are gapless, so anything you cut to make it work will look wrong comparatively. You'd also have to add a servo housing. It's probably worth the effort but we just don't have the time or skill to do it right. You can add TV to it by chopping up the tail and installing a TV module, but it'll look horrible compared to the stock setup.

@Ricksworldtv Год назад

Do you prefer the SMC Lipo packs over the LiHv packs for these jets. I'm curious why if you have the time. Great videos Jon, I always look forward to your take on these planes.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

The LiPo pack was used because we didn't have enough HV packs for both jets. HV is generally superior to LiPo in our experiences.

@samuelsherwood298 2 дня назад

I like the Rafale, but and the yellow is bright but I don't like the scheme , I could do without the lion claws and all that

@samuelsherwood298 2 дня назад

Now if it had the 64mm scheme

@SkitzoFPV 8 месяцев назад

Have you flown the Freewing Mirage? I'd love to know your thoughts about it. I feel like it does high alpha very very well.

@TwoBrosRC 8 месяцев назад

Never flown it, but it's a death dorito. It'll high alpha.

@jeffbrundt7740 Год назад

I have both and my preference is the Rafale. It's just more fun to fly.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We love both but for different reasons.

@AntoniusBlack01 Год назад

Did I notice Emericas??? Sir, do you skate/did you skate? Also this answered the question on which one I'm going to rig up for scale fpv reasons. thanks!

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

You did notice Emericas. Our lead pilot wishes he had the coordination to skate. They're comfortable and durable which is why he wears them.

@air-headedaviator1805 Год назад

Its kinda funny that both of these are you best jets of enter-year-here, cause the Rafale was created due to the EF2000 not fully fulfilling Frances desired specifications. Model or full scale they’re directly competing jets!

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Interesting info there!

@jeffbrundt7740 Год назад

The French were never going to go with the EF. They always do things their own with their military.

@IceMan2035 Год назад

Now I've got to get both thanks great video. Aren't both jets 6s compatible? Why in the world they leave the pilot out makes no sense.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Use the code and link in the description for 10% off the Rafale when it comes back in stock!

@IceMan2035 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRCThanks for that

@northernrcflyer 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comparison. Just a note, with the RC Geek (or others) nozzle reduction mod on the Rafale, may Rafale takes off in significantly shorter distance than the Eurofighter.

@TwoBrosRC 9 месяцев назад

We did end up using nozzles from a fellow named Kallend on RC Groups which made a significant difference in both thrust and flight time, both positives. We'll cover that in a video soon and feature the new Ace Combat 5 Razgriz scheme for Rafale.

@northernrcflyer 9 месяцев назад

@@TwoBrosRC awesome. I definitely found a difference once they were in place. Looking forward to the video.

@greatquotestoliveby Год назад

Just buy both 😋

@ojeezrc Год назад

Great flight, that rafale is nice , but that euro is a problem 💪💯💯

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

A problem?

@ojeezrc Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC my bad for the misunderstanding, probelms referring as a beast , real nice , 🗣️💯

@michael88997 Год назад

If you had to pick between the eurofighter or viper 90 which would you go with?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Can't say. They're both solid choices.

@JoseRamos-fz9sg Год назад

Hello, I really like the Rafael , do you have proof, are they some F-14, it would be interesting. I know it's not like the Rafale or Eurofighter but I'd like to see you with one. All the best

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We've flown the F-14 before, it's in our channel history.

@groggykerman007 Год назад

Would you say the eurofighter is a good second jet? Or maybe a third? Can you fly it with safe?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Definitely don't get a jet as expensive as this one if you're still using SAFE for general flying. Something more inexpensive would be a better choice for that kind of application. While it can be done, we don't recommend it for more than reorientation or quick transmitter checks in flight.

@shahram677 Год назад

Thanks ,awesome May I know how much weight did you add to Eurofighter? And how much you went behind CG mark?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

This is being flown at 35mm level behind the marks with 28g of weight in the tail.

@shahram677 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC you are very lucky,I have 8s version and I added 170g so far I heard from Arthur who has 6s and his same as mine

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

@@shahram677 That weight you needed to add is precisely why we don't recommend 8 cell upgrades. It's just too much additional weight on top of a heavy battery, motor, and ESC combo.

@shahram677 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC exactly, they really don’t care about buyer,they just know money and profit They sell real JUNK for 700$$$$$

@shahram677 Год назад

BTW,I could remove air brake and I could put one of my 4s into it,this way I can remove 50g from tail but still is too much weight and in other hand I found out manufacture put another 20g inside of fuselage under vertical stabilizer plastic part which is hidden

@ingog4972 Год назад

Can you please post a link to your Rafale set up?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We decided not to create one due to very low demand. If you need specific help, let us know!

@groggykerman007 Год назад

Which one is more beginner friendly?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Rafale, mostly due to handling characteristics and its lower price point.

@ufoburnout 7 месяцев назад

Got me thinking maybe eurofighter and hold off for a version 3 rafale Release? Could the rafale get much better?

@TwoBrosRC 7 месяцев назад

Don't hold off. FMS is unlikely to come out with an updated Rafale anytime soon.

@ufoburnout 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the heads up. Its on my ceiling right now. Running out of storage space lol don't know where I'm gonna fit my al37.

@kframe7783 Год назад

What makes you prefer rc castle vs motion rc? Just curious

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We prefer the business model of RC Castle and how they treat their customers.

@altselgreen9115 Год назад

Did you do the nozzle mod on the Rafale?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

Nope. We generally shy away from modifying exhausts as it's often unnecessary.

@altselgreen9115 Год назад

@@TwoBrosRC that’s interesting…as this mod is proven to increase thrust quite significantly. It has been well documented.

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

It adds high end thrust at the cost of low end performance. We don't really care about top speed as we're far more interested in how slow something can fly.

@davidgerlach1132 2 месяца назад

@@TwoBrosRC Makes sense. There's plenty of rockets to have fun with, it's nice to float like a butterfly, then sting like a bee.

@3v1Bunny Год назад

Janes combat .. EF2000.EXE , that shows my age I guess.

@mountainr.c. Год назад

He Jon where can I find the rafale setup video?

@TwoBrosRC Год назад

We decided not to make one because there wasn't enough viewer interest. We can give you advice if you'd like help though.

@mountainr.c. Год назад

I would love to know how you did it. My brother in law and I have rafales off your recommendation I don’t want to use the control board. We would love to set it up like you did. Can you give me a brief description if you don’t mind. I would happily contribute to your patreon for your help Thank you love the channel