Thank you for the awesome review comparing the differences :) This matches up with what i've tested, including the higher memory temps on the Liquid X. Not a problem for normal usage, but less than ideal for overclocking.
@@Rem0n89 THAT's what you care about? A backplate? You want to spend that much for a backplate? Then go get a custom one made, ricer. Get a bodykit to match.
In my experience with an EVGA Hybrid 3080, the water cooled cards will always overclock the best because of the lower steady core temps. My 3080 (FTW3 Ultra) I converted to Hybrid scored in the 99th percentile very easily even without reaching the full power limit of 450w because of EVGA's power delivery issues. It did that at about 390w iirc, but I haven't benched it in years.
I have the gaming OC 4090. I have been water cooling my cards for the last 20 years due to noise and heat. The Gigabyte card really is something else, it's quiet, overclocks to 3GHZ stable and all on air. I love this card, super highly recommended. I can't believe the power TBH.
I really think all the these comments about AMD being the saviour need to see some real tests and benchmarks before convincing themselves it's the way fwd. All going well the AMD cards will be great but I just want to see some real data first.
@@stevenross-watt8640 Unless you have 4k 144hz as a minimum the 4090 is pointless and over priced. The 3090 can do the same fps at 1440p and soon will be dirt cheap like the 6900 xt. The 7900 xtx will be 80% of the 4090 in raster which is still overkill but at least it's so much cheaper, smaller and has normal power connectors. The 3080 is going to be slow, overpriced with the same crap connector, unless they reduce it to £800 it's DOA. Nvidia have lost the plot big time.
That Lego plant looks like it could really use some water. Don't make the mistake I did. I didn't water it and it died. Don't forget to use the right water too.
While the comparison helps a bit, the most important comparison would be the reviewer's voice reference followed by noise samples of each card in their Silent and OC BIOS settings under maximum load. If coil whine occurs, there should also be specific noise samples for it. --robert jasiek
Funny how you complain about prices and yet you're suggesting to get a car instead which is a constant long-term and massive expense + car insurance. 😂😂😂
Regarding the adapter melting issue, I have been torturing my 4090 (MSI) for weeks without any sign of a problem. RU-vidrs JayzTwoCent and Gamer Nexus tried to reproduce the problem by abusing the cards way more than a normal user would (or could) and again not even a hint of a problem. Tens of thousands of cards (if not hundreds of thousands) have been sold and what do we have here? 12 cases on Reddit?? I think this issue has been blown out of proportion out of the interests of who knows who (though I do have a suspect in mind) without any serious finding to show for it. FUD at its best... *FUD not spread by Techtesters of course, which is one of my favorite channels out of the highest levels of intellectual honesty shown thru and thru
Exactly, I see a lot of fearmongering going on. People talk about this as if it were a very common issue. That said, NVIDIA did use cheap, crappy components on the adapter.
@@EarthIsFlat456 maybe so, but if I compare the alleged crappy materials to the cables i got with my Corsair PSU I see exactly the same things (or Corsair maybe knows some secret plastic alloy tricks I am not aware about?). The point is, no trusted source (like Steve at Gamer Nexus) has been able to reproduce the issue no matter the abuse, and that (plus the statistical numbers) just place a tombstone on this subject.
it kinda annoys me a little that most of those AIO gpu's are rarely 360 because yeah prize and size factor but having a case with 360 space and put a 240 rad up will look silly
That's what i said too...Stupid to make a 240....Should make it 360...I'm sure most people who gets a 4090 can afford a case which fits a 360....a 240 which fits a 360 will definitely look stupid....just an empty 120mm space....lol
As much as I like new tech, I just don't think people should buy Nvidia this gen. They have gone totally insane. For a lot of people, the 4090 is a lot more expensive than Justin whatever the card costs. Even some reasonably sized cases can't fit them, so people also need to buy a new case. Nvidia needs to get hammered this gen, if they're not I can see 60 and 50 tier cards costing $700 or more for next gen.
@@Roecky What part of *"and the fire insurance you need in case the power cable melts and catches fire"* makes you think I'm not aware that even ATX 3.0 power supplies with PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR cables are melting?
You're right! Even if I got a RTX 4090 I can tell its to hefty overpriced even if the performance is very nice but you won't even need that performance in upcoming titles! RX 7900 XT or XTX is the way to go!!!
Great comparative review, Nada. I agree with your advice in using a dedicated 12-pin GPU power connector from the power supply manufacturer or Cable Mod.
Cablemod has had so many of the cables burn up.. i stuck with what came in the box & have had zero issues.. bought the 4090 suprim x liquid on Dec/2022 My power supply is an Asus Thor 1200w plat v1 so it didnt have a 12 pin to 12 pin.. otherwise i would of used psu cable to make it cleaner.
My 4090 uses 240-260W after undervolting and temperatures are 44-46 degrees when gaming with fans at 50%. Performance loss is only around 10%, which is nothing when the card is so fast anyway. The high power arguement is a non-issue when you tweak the settings a little bit. Ironically the 4090 is the most efficient card I've ever used. Very happy with it.
And what about the power connector? No chance to install the major part of cards in 90% of cases without binding the cable before the 3.5cm recommader to avoid a problem with...
You can't call it the most efficient if you underclock it. You pay that much for it's performance offered. Everyone can undervolt their cards and say the most efficient. The default values actually matter.
INNO3D RTX 4090 X3 OC outperforms pretty much all these card in terms of noise and thermals .. And it's almost the same price as the FE version. You really should try and review that one if possible. My mind was set on the STRIX card, but I couldn't justify that pricetag!
Size of the cards is also of importance. the founders rtx 4090 might fit in my lian li tu150. seeining the cards next to each other helped me decide (if possible comparing the cards with predecessors 1080, 2080, or so would be practical for me at least) and I am in no rush - thank you
I've watched this video at least 20 times. Still have a hard time choosing. Should I stick with a FE that it's on the way, or try to sell it and go towards something else, something like Gigabyte or Strix? I would have loved to see how much can they boost while overclocking. Saw the MSI Suprim boosting the highest, followed closely by FE and even Gigabyte being high there. Asus Strix with its 600W can not reach 3000 Mhz. Also, I heard increased reports of MSI and Asus Strix having coil whine, and Gigabyte having none. Did you experience anything like this? Also, I understand that these were the models presented at the time, but any idea about the Aorus Master, is it any better than Gigabyte OC?
@@RAZORRRTV Got a 4090 Founders Edition as it was one of the first I could get at that time and the best price you could get. Now, you could get a 4090 FE, 4090 Strix OC, or 4090 Gigabyte OC. I think those are your best options. Coil whine is a sound that your GPU makes when it runs high voltage current into it. It makes a weird annoying sound the more is pushed. For some is very annoying and for some they other not hear it or it is not strong/annoying enough. Most of the 4090 have it, Founders Edition seems the most likely to not have it as it's the safest and lowest-clocked card. Everything OC and higher have a higher chance of having it. It's a lottery at some point even getting 2 cards from the same brand and model.
The 4090 SUPRIM X is so good looking. I want that GPU so bad. I might wait until the 4090 Ti is released, and get the 4090 Ti SUPRIM X. It would be a monstrous upgrade over my 1080 Ti.
Why get a GPU with cable issues that are being ignored for $1600 USD (at least)? Now it's both the adaptors and the new 12vhp cable that are burning up and still no recall? The note 7 had less reported cases and sold over 2.5 million and that was recalled. This was a release of 100k GPUs and no recall?
Good video but you didn't mention the biggest advantage of the watercooled version: it's much slimmer plus you don't have thermal problems when you run two of them.
Would be nice to also mention VRM and power phase differences as that mainly explains the price difference between the cards and why the strix carries such a high price premium. :)
strix tax just like aorus and corsair these brands will always cost more in most cases its sort of justified build quality and performance and look is what makes them what they are for people who want nice looking pc parts that can perform some what lets say but yes i hear ya man its crazy on the price tags in general
Who cares…all 4090’s have marginal differences when its come to performance. These bigger numbers dont mean much for 4090’s…let alone the oc’ing capability is trash on all models…1-3% performance gain…
@@stevetb7777 im good with my ampere for now. All my money is going to becoming wealthy (not rich) in this recession. Rather 10x that $1600 msrp and the rest of my money
The one that lets me keep my kidney. Nice job making 4080 look like a ripoff and making me think the rest of your lineup will be too watered down to matter, so I'm forced to look at a card that is $1600 at the very minimum
I have the Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC! Running rock solid with a 190/600 OC (no change in power target) on the Silent BIOS! I get boosts of up to 2960MHz from what I can remember.
@@readifer loud??? Are you by any chance using the OC bios? I can NOT hear my 4090 over my Liquid Freezer II 240 when gaming and it consistently boosts above 2900MHz
The new video card generation is such a bittersweet affair… 4090: great thermals and noise, fantastic performance including RT but also absurd pricing, abysmal availability, high power consumption, “meltgate”, buzzing Gainward/Palit fans, excessive Asus/MSI coil whine. 7900: probably great rasterization performance, decent pricing and power consumption but also most likely utterly disappointing RT performance pretty much instantly killing the entire launch in my book. Unknown thermals, coil whine or driver stability at this point. Anyway… What can’t my current 6900 do? Play CP in 4K RT at decent fps. Can the 7900 do it? Nope, still way out of reach 👎 The 4090 can, especially with DLSS 2 but just when I finally found a supposedly cool and quiet card with sleek looks (Gainward Phantom) at a non-scalping (though still crazy) price, I read all the horror stories on its whining/buzzing fans on German forums. Meh…
The TUF 4090 looks the best IMO. Using red & blue accents is extremely stupid, I wonder how many customers will not buy it because of that stupid design choice.
*LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE CARDS* !!! How redundant. The EVGA 4090 was small and was far more superior to any other version of the 4090. Sadly enough, they dropped out. So terrible. But they aren't interested in gouging their customers. Good company right there.
I will wait for the 5000 series. Either I will pick up a 4090 then or go for the 5090 then. I have a 3080 at the moment which I payed too much for during corona years. And I hoped that this round, prices would go back to normal. They didn't.
Or you could just wait 20 years and get 4000 series for $50…. Your life isn’t infinite, technology will infintely improve but your lifespan will decrease. Also you have a 3080 why even bother upgrading
My plan was to get the 4090 (i got the 4090 FE) as it’s ridiculously powerful and skip the 5000 series. I’ll upgrade my entire pc rig at 7000 or 8000 series anyway.
Good video. I'd have liked a founders but utterly impossible to get one and the scalpers prices for them suck. Especially in the first 14 days after launch. I managed to get a gaming oc from gigabyte for the same price the guy bought it for (rrp) and I've had no issues at all. I'll maybe try the silent bios after watching this. Cheers.
I donno how much we can trust the statistics here, Everyone on the internet are complaining of the ASUS 4090 and mostly Strix series because of its coil whine noise. But here you said it has the less noise! that is weird!
Coilwhine is not vendor or card specified. Any card can have coil whine based on the card itself AND the power supply. I've heard complains of all cards listed on different sites.
@@CesarinPillinGaming I see. I thought the board design can contribute in increasing or decreasing the level of coil whine so a comparison between them made sense to me as coil whine is more annoying than fan speed on these top models. I have a 4090 suprim x and there is a noticeable coil whine (not outrageous but noticeable and more noticeable than the sound of the fans in the gaming bios)
QUESTION FOR ANYONE THAT HAS INSIGHT - I've been reading a lot about how the 4090 is far more than most people need and I'm sure that applies to me as I only do some online gaming and play around with light video editing......My question is this - I buy a new computer every 5-6 years. I don't upgrade any components during that time. If I'm buying a computer that I'm going to be using for 5-6 years, is the 4090 still more than I would need?
I think the overseas pricing (much higher than USD RRP/MSRP) and the “adapters” may be swaying some from pulling the trigger on this GPU lineup. Here in Australia 🇦🇺 the RRP is $2959 (AUD) and the overclocked models are going for about $500 (AUD) more and the Strix is is roughly $3,800 AUD which is nuts!!! These are scalper prices at retail stores (I know our currency has taken a hit against the greenback (pffft freedom currency hahaha 😅😂🤣)
Had the Strix and it just looks stupid vertically mounted on my O11DE, I sold that to a friend and got myself the MSI Liquid X, the card is honestly gorgeous vertically mounted and the one that EVERYONE should be going for if you value aesthetics even by a little bit. This is a great video, I bought my Liquid X after seeing your review! Thank you!
The video noted the higher memory temperatures on the MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090 and I was wondering if that's a concern worth keeping in mind. It seems like it would be. I agree on the aesthetics being a selling point of it though. Also, my primary factor of purchasing a 4090 is having zero coil whine, so I'm wondering if you experience any coil whine with your MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090. It's between a founders edition, gigabyte gaming oc, and msi suprim liquid x for me. My budget is $1750-ish anyway, so the most expensive option I can afford is the msi suprim liquid x 4090.
I have one Gigabyte and one Asus TUF OC and they also both perform about the same, with the Asus TUF OC looking quite a lot more professional, with the Gigabyte Gaming OC looking a bit "cheap" with the plastic and a RGB flashing from the fan spinning that is ok, but does not look amazing imo. Yet - the Gigabyte card performs so well for it's price that it's hard to beat - I'd pick a different card however if you have a vertical GPU mount and want to show it off in all it's glory :) (PS, The Asus TUF OC looks amazing on display)
I got a founders edition from Priority access at best buy awesome And just installed the ek waterblock on it with active backplate both sides are nice and cool running on its own loop with 2 360 rads 👍
Greetings. Do you happen to know how the priority access works after a product like the 4090 has been launched? Is there some kind of quasi waiting list that you can place yourself on? Any specifics would be much appreciated!
None of them considering they all cost 1600 dollars or above for basically the same performance as each other. I’ll pass until they fix the connector problem and drop the price to something realistic. Nvidia is to high on greed right now for me.
I'm not so sure they will drop the price on the RTX 4090, since there is no competition in that segment. The RTX 4080 cards however will need to change in price quickly.
Probably white noise in the studio drowning it out, or other PC parts making a noise canceling it out, or hearing differences. 5 genuinely without coil whine would be almost impossible, especially at launch. MSI and Asus have made revisions since this video, so odds are better of getting one without coil whine.
I bought a suprim X on release day, had to sell my 3090 to be able to afford it of course, it's an amazing product which delivers exceptional performance and is fairly quiet. Having a great time with it.
I think the correct answer to which 4090 you should get is none if them, people need to stop supporting Nvidia an their awful practices and obscene price hikes because till people do that Nvidia is going to just keep jacking up the price generation to generation.
I picked the ROG one for 2 reason : 1st It's one of the only with with just 2 slot extremity that make it possible for me to fit it in my case WITHOUT removing any other card I already have. And the 2nd reason it's because it was one of the only available at this moment with this side xD
I love how Gigabyte (I got the 4090 Windforce) is the cheapest while having very low temps. Probably because other manufacturers decided that covering a heatsink with a bunch of important plastic logo design gamer abstract things is a good idea (only Gigabyte has a nice complete cutout on the backplate).
@@stevenross-watt8640 Rich people buying up some of the limited supply on offer is not exactly selling millions. I guess Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank though seen as it probably costs them next to nothing to make them.
Nice comparison, I ordered the Zotac RTX4090 24 Go AMP Extreme AIRO because is the only 4090 that I could find in Stock at MSRP on EU, hope I don't regret lol
Update for those who don't have a 4000 series card yet: Overall, they are amazing and I would *highly* recommend them! However, I suggest waiting until the 5000 series GPUs drop in Q1 2024 so that the prices of the 4000 series GPUs drop drastically. These cards (or any with the chips manufactured by TSMC) are ones that will *always* show a massive performance jump. So, for those who will be able to afford a 5090 at launch, I would highly suggest that card as well - as the chips are also being manufactured by TSMC and a leaked and then pulled document showed that the 5090 PCB (which will be ever so slightly longer) will basically have *TWO* *4090s* internally linked together all manufactured using TSMC's 3 nanometer node process (vs 5 nanometer for the 4090 chips, hence why they can fit two of em' on the 5090's PCB). Those 5090 GPUs will be the first ever graphics cards to perform amazingly well in every title at max settings (raytracing being maxed out as well) at 4K resolution with the framerate on existing titles never dropping below 160fps! *Absolute* *insanity!* Sorry for this lengthy write-up - but I wanted to share this hopefully accurate information with those who read this! I mean, why else would that leaked document be quickly pulled if it wasn't true? Best of luck all! Oh, and thanks @Techtesters for this video, of course!
I use to buy all the newest and best hardware when it comes out. Started OC-ing abd watercooling decades ago. Now days I wait and buy best there is once something breaks or is getting to slow or generation leap is huge. I was waiting for 4090 and decision was to get it. It came out. Looked at MSI Trio and it was 1875 bucks with Corsair HX1000 on the Newegg and here in the Netherlands it was 2849 Euro. Last time I saw it it was 2899 Euro. Plus Nvidia is still not rectifying power connector issue. They just decided they do not care for the early adopters of highest product in line!?? AND came out with RDNA3 with way better pricing. Hope Nvidia does the right thing now. Or if they do not then they can choke on d@#k as much as I care. Charging 3K fir a card? You can still have complete gaming PC with last gen top cards for 3K. Plus they have to recall all 4090 and change connector. When Porshe made mistake and 911 GT3 engines started burning, Porsche took each car back, provided replacement car for a day and did complete new engine swap In a day for each car of the series. They have had to develop rig and tooling to be able to do one day engine swaps. That's way you should take care of the customers that are buying your expensive shit. Customer is a King. He feeds your children. They are getting not a cent from me until they do the right thing
Yup, I got my Gigabyte Gaming OC on the 12th at a local microcenter. I had it's max overclock dialed in after about 3 days at +250 core +700 mem using MSI afterburner. This is without touching voltage at all. Power limit is set to 133 percent and as well as max temp slider. ( tested with all heavy 3d mark stress tests, 3 hours ROG real bench/ 3 hours Aida 64) with 10/12 release day drivers. (Current 10/27 drivers are bad for the 4090 and all overclocks fail). My speeds in all games sits at between 2955 to 2970 mhz and temps never get above about about 63 degrees. Mabye I got a golden chip I dunno. As well, my 16 pin adapter is slight bent against the glass case of my Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL case without any "melting" issues and I have about a hundred hours now pushing this card. I'm happy with my Gigabyte 4090.
Can anyone explain why there are so many different models of the rtx 4090? As in different names/companies. I thought Nvidia owned the creation of their own gpu
Amd and nvidia make the chip and build a reference card to recoup the costs of that. I’m sure there are laws as well that prevent them from making the chip and solely sell the graphics card.
I’m sure they all do. And if not later develop it. I have a 3080ti and the first 3 to 4 months dead silent then one day dx12 on Fortnite developed the could whine and not every game gives me coil whine 😂😂
@@reloadingdontshoot1 I actually think it's silicon lottery. I read some posts on a forum and 2 people with the RTX 4090 Strix had coil whine, 1 had heavy coil whine with the MSI Suprime X. Others with the MSI Gaming X, Palit etc cards had none.
None!!! Too overpriced. Nvidia is now Ngreedia!! I always loved their graphic cards but this generation is a failure. Too much power consumption, too big, burning adapters. The performance is great but not for that prize.
You should definitely add the PNY in the lineup; I have never seen such a silent and cool graphics card! The "Asus TUF Gaming OC" works at 2.4 sone (1.4 with quiet bios), which is already pretty outstanding (the FE is at 3.0!). But the "PNY" manages 0.9 sone!! Forgot: the full name is "PNY GeForce RTX 4090 XLR8 Gaming Verto Epic-X RGB Triple Fan"
I got the Gaming OC 4080. It's definitely not as good as the 4090, but It's good. It's really good. One of the reasons I got the Gaming OC 4080 is because of the cooling. The cooling is interesting because the Gaming OC 4090 has 10 heat pipes, and the Gaming OC 4080 has 11 heat pipes. Super weird, but my Gaming OC 4080 stays insanely cool. On the OC gaming BIOS, the cooling is so over engineered, the fans barely ever start spinning while gaming. The coolling is incredible. If you're looking for a very good air-cooled 40 series, I recommend the Gaming OC without a doubt.
Nada, somehow I doubt you’re a gamer. I remember back in the 90s and early 2000s, most girls would laugh at people who loved computers or games or were nerds. But since the iPhone came out, females have fully invested themselves into loving tech and even becoming geeks. How times have changed
@@mathewleung6945 nobody can buy them. Scalpers swiped up all the stock and nvidia isn't manufacturing anymore until after x-mas. We might see more restock in the first quarter of 2023 if nvidia sells enough of the 3000 series cards that are rotting I. Their warehouse.
Unfortunately you can expect a couple extra hundred euros on top of their MSRP as well... So a rough guess would be 1500 euro for a 7900XTX, maybe even more... sadly :(
@@Rem_NL And then some... current pricing here (nl) is a couple hundred over msrp. That's with tax already included. (That's for the 4090 that is.) Fingers crossed my 1080ti doesn't die on me...
For me personally, the suprim liquid x is lookiny like a very tempting upgrade over my EVGA FTW3 3090. Itll free up a pcie 1x slot on my mobo thats currently entirely blocked by the behemoth 3090, along with a very substantial permormance boost.
Yep. I just upgraded to the Suprim Liquid X 4090 primarily because I had free rad space and the card is so much smaller than everything else.. Its hard to fit the 4090 in smaller cases and impossible in many mid-sized ATX cases like the NZXT H510i. The Suprim Liquid X fits wonderfully in the Hyte Y60 and others though.
I bought the Liquid X for no other reason than it was the only 4090 that would fit in my case. The size of these things is starting to get out of hand....
For AI needs, Strix OC is best. Better performance slightly, and in a landscape as fastpaced as AI, that's like being an Olympic sprinter asking for a 1% improvement. Difference between being Usain Bolt in 2008/2009 and the rest of the field behind him. Sure, all Olympians, but one stands out. I'll gladly pay slightly more for that 1% to 2% performance boost. And it's more quiet to boot?? Heck yeah!
A couple of days ago, my Asus ROG Strix 4090 16-pin power cable and the 12V power connector melted. 😭 My silly solution was to immediately buy another Asus Strix 4090. LMAO
