Which throwing putter goes the farthest? Why throw putters at all? | Flight Numbers Don’t Matter 

I’d love to see how the Westside Maiden stacks up to the rest of the throwing putter field!

Did you list the 25 putters used? I only see the top 10 each rounds. Would like to know what putters were used in the comparison.

The warden, and the sensei are my favorite putters. The Sensei in active, regular and soft plastic are fantastic! Very affordable discs and in my bag.

You should do a video about which putter flies the straightest! Love these series keep them coming!

There are a number of reasons new players should throw (drive / upshots) with mids and putters I would add to your excellent list. I agree the term "putter" to a new user, because of golf, is assumed to mean only goes 20 ft. When advising a new player to throw putters we also want them to use "throwing putters" generally meaning premium plastic. The biggest problem with new users and putters is that putters have a thin/narrow rim. This generally means they are difficult to hold with a "power grip" (back hand) which all new players learn and think is necessary to throw far. You need to show a new player a more comfortable grip, generally a fan or modified fan grip. 1. They give new players and those helping them immediate feedback. It is much easier to see OAT, nose angle, hyzer/flat/anhyzer release. High speed disks tend to mask these numbers. 2. High speed discs (fairway / 13-14 speed), thrown at low speeds, do not perform as they should, they will tend to fly over stable. This leads to bad habits as new players will (RHBH) throw to the right rather than straight or throw anhyzer rather than hyzer, which for most people is less powerful / less distance. 3. High speed discs generally mean more weight / inertia which then leads to throwing hard using the arm -> bad technique and injuries. 4. They are more forgiving both with accuracy (more likely to go straight) and generally deflect shorter distance off trees -> means new players are more likely to be taking their next shot from the fairway. 5. It gives them faster access to strategy. It is disc golf not disc throw as far as possible. While we all recognize the premium of distance immediately, new players lose accuracy when throwing high speed discs far, and they think they are doing well because they just threw 20 ft further, never mind it is also 20 ft off the fairway.

I use my midrange for everything until I get close enough to basket for a putt. When I throw my putter for distance, the release is odd and doesn’t go the direction I want it to. It feels big and bulky in my hand. I’ll give it another go tho.

Firstly, I'm a beginner/novice. So take anything I say in that light. I throw putters, but only up to about 200 feet. I do that for 2 reasons. 1, it goes very straight. 2, if thrown on a slight hizer, it keeps it to the ground and has almost no skip. I've seen Paige and Paul throw their putters dead straight up to 300 feet. I can't imagine someone wanting to throw a putter that far or further except to go dead straight. If you're not Paige or Paul, I don't really see the sense in reporting on what discs do when you overpower them. At those distances, there are higher speed discs that can give you the results you want without throwing that hard. The less energy you have to put into a throw to achieve the desired results, the better, as it likely will have more control and be more accurate. As a beginner, this is magnified for me. My control and accuracy is middling at best. When I try to throw full power, accuracy and control go out the window and discs end up on my roof. 😂 I would be interested in a video that tests which disc are most accurate (or straight) at a normal effort throw and distance, such as between 150 to maybe 250 or 300 feet max. Thanks for sharing.

The MVP Ohm in Neutron plastic is one of the first discs I ever bought back before I learned that you don’t want premium plastics as actual putting putters, but it’s stayed in my bag as my favorite throwing putter. Even though it’s a 2 speed, the glide and forward fade are perfect for shots up to 300+ ft. Even after beating it in for the last 15 months, it has absolutely no turn, no fade, and flies straight as can be. It’s similar to a Glitch, but I have found it to be much more useful and practical.

Great video! I really enjoy these comparisons, and you do a supreme job with the voice-over.

There is a myth that could be explored in something you said….the past year I switched to lighter discs due to a rotator cuff issue. I presumed I was throwing the discs faster which is why I could get “the same distance with less effort.” After recently purchasing a pocket radar, I realized that light and normal weight discs are getting thrown the same speed. In hindsight, it makes sense. The weight of body parts and athletic strength used to rotate the body in a backhand swing completely overshadows a 20gram variation in the disc. Maybe this myth comes from the difference in throwing an 8lb bowling ball verses a 16lb ball which does vary in release velocity. That being said, the 150g mvp fission drivers are beyond amazing at flying through the air with ease and wind resistance. Can’t really see going back to full weight drivers at this point.

New to the channel. Great work!!! I love the colored trails you add to the shots. It really makes a difference. Top notch videos!!!

I love throwing the Inner Core on straight drives. I use my Zone for meat-hooks, and my beat-up Rhyno for straight approach shots

For driving putter, it’s the Envy. Straight approaches are with an Innova Invader, but most approaches and some drives are with Zones

I always enjoy the "flight numbers don't matter" videos, but this is by far the best one yet. Great work as always! I finally decided to Subscribe. 🙃 I personally throw Fission Envys and Proxies as my regular throwing putters and throw them 250-270 with ease, but can pump them up to 290-300 max. Although, now that I think about it, I've never really taken my putters to a field to try and throw for max distance. All those numbers are golf line throws on courses, where I'm shooting for score, so you can take it with a grain of salt. However, I have also thrown the Inner Core, Dagger, Luna, Spin, Keystone, Pure, Pixel, Narwhal, and Challenger. I think I can get most all of these to the 250-270 ft distance. My opinion is that the disc that fits a person's hand best is the one they will be able to throw the furthest, if that makes sense.

I never once discovered I could throw a mid range or putter further than any driver ... But I did notice I could get to the basket in less strokes with putters and mid range when I first started playing disc.

I started throwing more putters and mids to work on form and control accuracy and have loved how much my game has changed in such a short amount of time. I personally love the Innova Invaders for putting and throwing. The Innova Wedge is a fun really understable putter great for some hyzer flip to turnover lines in the woods

I’m shocked the Reko didn’t do better. It’s a laser beam for me up to 300 ft so figured bigger arms would go further.

Big Z lunas are typically very understable. My one at least is, and i, of course throw it nose up and even with smaller speeds it flips.

My most thrown putter is the Axiom Neutron Soft Proxy which I believe is the best throwing putter in disc golf. I utilize it mostly for it's accuracy rather than its distance (which I believe would personally max out at around 310 feet or so). I have never thrown a disc that locks into an angle and holds it more than a premium plastic Proxy, especially after you beat the fade out of it which doesn't take long. I recommend it to everyone I can and haven't heard anyone who's thrown it say that didn't love it. Envy's get all the love, but Proxy's are where it's at people!

I have two throwing putters: 165g Inner Core for glidey straight shots 175g Star AviarX3 for approaches and hyzer throws Inner Core is a bit flippy when I put some power on it, but when thrown on a bit of hyzer it flips up to straight and holds its line for quite a while. Played a whole round with it yesterday, and I love it for both throwing and putting.

Really enjoyed this breakdown, keep up the good work 👏

I throw a Envy and recently a proxy, I pull them out for shots under 280 feet. The Proxy has been a real game changer for me, so consistently straight flying.

These videos have been dope. I have done something similar and Envy was the furthest flying one for me... but your list includes some I didnt throw which I will need to try out.

This is awesome! I would suggest the dynamic discs warden as I have gotten some really nice turnover lines out to about 315

Awesome video! Was the Judge in a premium plastic included? Those babies have a TON of glide!

I love throwing putters. I don't have a big arm, but they go straight and controlled. Throw more putters!

I was using an XCOM Bennu pretty regular. The Reko I ordered from you all does an amazing flex flight. Not long, but a glorious shape to the flight. I'm gonna have to give the sensei I picked up form you a try. The axiom and MVP results were a little surprising to me

Great video 👍 loved the bloopers as well 😂🤣

I recently learned how to throw "correct" and another lesson for beginners is that midrange and putter are easier to throw because nose angle isn't as important to get the desired flight, very good for learning how to throw it before learning how to control the angle. I only throw distance drivers like 110-140 meters and midranges 80-100m which isn't a huge difference. that's about to change as I'm throwing way further very rapidly right now also shoutout to the classic blend Warden, straightest stable no fade torque resistant putter ive thrown and its what turned me on to throwing putters

I throw a very small bag, only 7 discs, and that includes my putting putter. That being said, the only putters I bag are and aviar for putting, a Beetle for touchy upshot, and then there is the Maestro. I love my maestro, and even though it doesn't get classified as a putter, it flies like one. I don't feel the need to bag more putters because the maestro does anything, but I do throw it all the time. It has even kicked the mids out of the bag. I could play a one discs round and not miss my others that much.

The active premium sensei went from being my throwing putter for wind to my throwing putter for all but super flippy or super beefy shots to now being my go-to all around putter. I love how it feels, I love how it flies, and I may just not putt with enough power but I’ve never had a spit out with it. It usually gets left out of these comps so I’m glad y’all included it.

Great vid. Love the outtaks at the end 😂😂😂 Thanks for mentioning the glitch. But have no fear, Once AMS break through to the pro level form. Thats when glitch goes full flight 450 on flat ground 😲 not myself. But I am starting to get it close to beating out my current driving putter🎉

Great vid as usual.

My current favorite putter in my bag is my OTB Eclipse 2.0 Proxy. Has some slight turn with very little end fade. I would say my average full shot (non max distance and still accurate) is around 300ft (91m). Absolutely love this disc, and I'm thinking of getting a proton/prism envy and possibly a spin to compliment it (envy - overstable | proxy - neutral | spin - understable).

Westside Maiden is a great throwing putter in VIP plastic. Unreal glide

My favorite is the Trash Panda Inner Core. I’ve been able to hit my max distance of any disc with it at 315 feet which is also the most accurate disc I can throw.

Rock and Roll! I only throw two discs, a Franklin putter and a discraft buzz mid range. I get laughs showing up with a Franklin, but I like it and it goes where I know it will (about 150-180 feet at my furthest) yes, I am weak and not flexible, but disc golf is helping me get stronger.

love this video

I throw putters a fair bit and my go tos are the Thought Space Praxis for straight to slightly overstable shots and the Trash Panda Inner Core for hyzer flip and turn over shots. Both have very high glide and I was surprised by the distance I was able to get with them. My best distance on the Praxis is about 290 ft and the best on my Inner Core is 275-280 ft. Great content, keep it up!

This is great content. Would you consider doing 3 more rounds to find the straightest/longest putter? So some hyzer flip action for tight tunnels with a low ceiling? You don’t have to film throwing down an actual tunnel 😂. Also is there a list of the 25 putters?

Not really sure what you can actually take out of this video except for the throw putters part. I don't see max distance as any kind of criteria for my throwing putters. In fact usually the slower the discs, the more stable (not over- or understable) the disc is and more consistent the result. I can throw my Wardens 300ft, but wouldn't really mind maxing out earlier as long as I got faster discs to cover for the longer holes. I get it that if you don't know the mid you are throwing the results are erratic, but throwing a straight mid you know should be pretty consistent. That being said, the video was still entertaining and certainly gets more new players to try out putters so job well done. :)

I’m not happy with my current putter, the Innova Aviar X3. I actually liked my very first putter better, the Aviar in DX plastic, but I can’t seem to throw it very far. I started throwing midrange discs for putts, just for the higher glide performance. This video shows that you can throw a putter farther than the flight rating says is possible. I’m going to take your advice and throw putters more often. Thanks for the great videos!

The BERG was probably not in the Throwing Putter category (but you did include the Glitch). I really appreciated your thoughts on the smaller landing zone when compared to mid-ranges. That was helpful. I do play putter only rounds, mostly to stay loose during the week. Those rounds are casual, but I am rethinking that on the basis of this video. A common park DG course would have several holes under 300ft. Hummm...

My favourite is a Glo proxy. Dead straight flies like a Mako but slightly shorter.

Great video 🥏👍🏽

My trowing putter is a star colt lol. There are a lot of reverse-s and c-shaped holes on my local courses, so I throw it pretty often. I usually get around 170-200 feet on it, but I'm usually not going for distance.

I mainly throw Berg for distance control, I can squeeze about 90 meters out of it on a good day, but its' real job is to nail the awkward distances between 30 and 60 meters. I'm trying out the new Berg X too, it is definitely another not-as-overstable-as-expected model from Kastaplast, but I for now think it's still a welcome improvement on the classic Berg, a touch more fade for added accuracy. Sometimes I may bag something like a Fission Envy if the course absolutely requires long putter shots. In 150 class weight it gets me in the 100 meter club just barely, but long putter drives are not really my game. Entropy goes in and out depending on how tight the course is, but Troija and Berg do the chip-up duties most of the time. I used to be a big Dart thrower too. It flies marvellously in Star plastic on a backhand throw, very high-speed stable with low fade and massive glide. It's just not a great forehand disc so it eventually had to give way for something more versatile. The R-Pro and DX versions really felt like different discs and not nearly as dependable.

I did throw my RUNE putter 290 ft, in Armor plastic. And I have max 330-340 distance.

Westside Maiden is my putting putter and my throwing putter. i also use a couple of them for practicing approach accuracy. i have an Innova Invader which feels almost identical to the Maiden. (shallow rim, mostly flat top)

Interesting video 👍🏽 My throwing putter is the Latitude 64 Dagger. Can get it up to around 300ft and it flyes dead straight 🥏

I throw mostly Sensei(premium and base plastic). Different stages of wear and they go from super flippy to stable, old beaten base plastic being flippy and active glow premium being most stable. Usually i bag 2-3 of those and throw them from 0-300 feet

A throwing putter that doesnt get talked about much that i really like is the innova invader. I think it was supposed to be innovas answer to the berg. It's no berg, but it is definitely not what youd call glidey. Im not a very good discgolfer, but when im taking an upshot, like, a real thrown upshot, and i just need to place sonething under the basket, its been fantastic. Its not glidey and i dont have good armspeed, but i can probably put it to 220 with good accuracy. Great disc imo. If im looking for glide on a shot, im going to reach for a mid rather than a putter, but maybe thats something i could improve and try throwing the putter more.

K1 Reko X is just something different imo. Takes 2-3 weeks to beat in, after that it just go straight for a very long time. Even if you put it on hyzer with more spin it still flips up and just goes straight. Much love from Sweden.

Love throwing putters! I've always encouraged others to do so as well. There are a few more factors to consider when throwing putters, however. They tend to be more sensitive to nose angle and off-axis torque (OAT). I threw Pro Aviars for over a decade before exploring Luna, Envy, and others. I settled on the Discmania Link because it is the most OAT resistant. I can smash it hard and trust it not to flip, even if I'm tired and the nose angle is off and the form gets a little dirty. Normally I would expect such a putter to have a lot of fade, but the Link does not! It doesn't glide as far as other putters, only getting comfortably out to 275 or so, but I think that's a good thing. If I'm putting my main throwing putter over 300', then what am I carrying mids for?

To reduce confusion it should be labelled "Throw Speed" or "ArmSpeed" (for mids and up anyways). And I do wish manufacturers wouldn't lie about some discs' glide to make them look better (for example, instead of rating the River 8s 5g, marketing decided that the numbers would look more impressive, helping sales, if they called it a 7s 7g instead. and they were right. since then, mislabelling discs is catching on)

I throw my otb draco Axiom soft eclipse proxy about 280 feet, love it.

You should've tried the 2nd version Westside Swan. It's great for the understable shots and hyzerflips

My throwing putters are: Innova star stud, goes straight with my full power shot. Slight fade at the end. My favorite throwing putter! West side discs Swan, bt soft. Touchy upshot disc. Also for heavy late understable shots. Thing has no fade. Latitude pure, gold-x. A middle ground for before mentioned. I throw them about 80meters (262 ft)

I bag an Electron Envy and an OTB Eclipse Envy as my main throwing putters. I'm using the PA-5 400 as my understable thrower. As I'm a n00b, and old, I only reach about 250ft with my putters...

For me harp from Westside is the most consistent approach putter for me, and I love throwing it, yesterday I actually did my first ace with a harp on a hole about 70 meter I guess about 220 feet

Thank you. Noobie maxing 200. Great revelation. Retired. Arm speed slow.

I’m so shocked I don’t see anyone talking about the Steady or Sunny Popcorn from Clash! That thing is a freaking point and shoot midrange-like putter. Perks of midrange distance with perks of a putter landing zone

I bag a berg, toro, halo aero, and a neutron spin. I've parked a 280ft hole with the spin. But I can pump the aero out to 300. The praxis can also get out to 300 once you beat it in. But yeah, throw more putters. Kills me to see so many players that would benefit from learning how to throw putters. Hardest part to get over is the grip. Power gripping putters doesn't work for me, I had to learn how to fan grip with the nose down. Curious to try a fierce / luna... I'm always on the lookout for bomb putters.

Very interesting. Also those average arm speeds. Regarding high speed drivers. The thing that makes them high speed is that they have less drag. So while they can start flying at the same speed as a slower disc. They lose that speed slower so they’ll still fly faster later in the flight. Interestingly, Lizotte showed that high speed drivers still fly well and further at lower speeds (even as slow as 40MPH). They just require better technique. The reason beginners should avoid throwing distance drivers is mainly because they do not throw nose down. That being said, high velocity is still important in getting the most out of a faster disc.

I'd have liked to see some aviar3 and x3!

I love throwing the Proxy ! for gaps, mandos n such, its my most reliable - even had an ace with one of those !!! distance ? ... mmm about 70-75m on a "controlled rip".

I have a cryZtal Fierce and I agree it is an amazing throwing putter, one of my favorites ever. Another favorite not shown in this video is the MVP Atom, it's a perfect approach disc IMO

PA-3 is easy 300 feet for a zero arm like mine; but 6x ESP Luna, a wee bit over-stable, can take max torque w/o turning over and likes wind better than most.

Fierce and Luna are the new ones in my bag, so I have to learn how they fly. Fierce I use, when I putt 80foot+. I can imagine, that if somebody has a good control with a new Innova Aero, it could make some records. I don´t see the list of those 25 discs, but I´m pretty sure, you didn´t use Yikun Discs Gui (is it an other name of a Prodigy disc?). I have only in a basic plastic, but it flies looooong (backhand & sidearm).

im not surprised the pure and the reko didnt make it. i recently bought those 2 to find a new putting-putter and got those 2 because they only have 13 or 14mm rim depth to see if a more shallow putter would finally give me a more comfortable putting grip. and since they are so shallow i assume they dont go as far since they still have that putter edge but lose glide

Got 3 throwing putters Prodiscus Jokeri for overstable Prodiscus Origo for straight Westside Swan Reborn undestable Mostly using for upshots it just started so maby should try them on the tee too?

I currently bag a Soft Neutron Envy, Glow Proxy, Electron Firm Proxy, Lucid Ice Sockibomb Slammer, K1 Berg, and a Halo Aero. My favorite one to throw has been the Electron Firm Proxy for a while. The farthest I've thrown the Proxy is 360+ ft. Yes, the Luna/Fierce in premium plastics are bombers. The Big Z Fierce I have and the 2022 ESP Luna's I have fly identical to each other.

Im throwing a star colt right now and its straight to mildly understable. But my arm speed is getting my drivers just over 300. Current best throw is around 330. Id say its aggressively understable for him because of his armspeed.

Started throwing my proxy as my mid range approach disc and it quickly became obvious this was the correct move,.

What?! My P Model S (Duraflex) is so darn understable for its numbers, the P Model US got it by several tics in stability. A "normal" headwind and it will go from steep hyzer to throller often. :S I would not react unless the manufacturer itself got the numbers messed up in the same line. Nice video! =) Would be nice to see the JOKERi fly ^_^ Oh, and how much more stable is the ESP Tour series Fierce compared to a Cryztal Sparkle one? My 3x European Open commerative seems way less stable.

Just a thought on flight numbers being "meaningless" , I take issue with that and I believe it is bad advice. I think the crux of the issue is that you can not trust the flight numbers and I believe we should push back on the manufacturer to update the flight numbers. The problem with flight numbers is two fold. First they are somewhat arbitrary and they are affected by plastic, wind, wear, arm speed, how hard you throw, etc. Second the disc manufacturers use the same set of numbers on every disc within the same mold regardless of plastic, weight, and even between runs. For example generally a destroyer has the same numbers regardless of plastid (DX / star/ champion / blizzard / glow) and this is the root of the problem, and again we need to push back of the manufacturers to post accurate numbers. Due to this lack of accuracy from the manufacturer, we end up that you do not know how a disc will fly until you throw it, and that will never change. If at all possible, it is nice to throw a disc from a friend or one you find before you buy it. I, for example, do not buy random discs, I replace ones I loose or I will throw a disc. However, the numbers are helpful and you should not completely abandon the concept. The speed and glide are the most helpful. The turn / fade not as much however there are categories, generally a 0 0 disc will fly different from a 0 4 or a -2 1 . It is like skiing where we have green/blue/black runs but these are just guidelines black meaning the most challenging at that particular ski resort. You can get a better idea of the actual flight numbers on some web sites such as infinite discs, they post numbers on the disc, as well as how they feel the disc actually flies, and people will add comments so you can get a better idea. Of course it would be best if we protest to the disc manufacturers to do better with the flight numbers they put on the disc, even it they put them on a web site rather than on the disc, and they can update the web site each run / year and maintain a database, would be trivial for them to do so. However, the numbers are helpful and you should not completely abandon the concept. The speed and glide are the most helpful. The turn / fade not as much however there are categories, generally a 0 0 disc will fly different from a 0 4 or a -2 1 . It is like skiing where we have green/blue/black runs but these are just guidelines black meaning the most challenging at that particular ski resort. You can get a better idea of the actual flight numbers on some web sites such as infinite discs, they post numbers on the disc, as well as how they feel the disc actually flies, and people will add comments so you can get a better idea. Of course it would be best if we protest to the disc manufacturers to do better with the flight numbers they put on the disc, even it they put them on a web site rather than on the disc, and they can update the web site each run / year and maintain a database, would be trivial for them to do so.

I have switched around a few throwing putters in the past. The one I finally settled on and love is the Thought Space Praxis

If your proton Pilot is throwing OS that's just variation in that disc. I have dozens of Pilots, and proton, especially once moderately worn, is the most US of the premium plastic Pilots available. I've gotten my neutron Pilots out to 325' in the field, and it's almost a different disc than the other plastics.

farther - not further 😇 Great video!

approach discs would be a fun thing to watch too

Honestly my main reason I throw putters less often off the tee is the deep rim. I almost always prefer my 4 speeds: A4, A3, and sol

I’m new to the game….just hit a eagle today at Riverside in Zanesville with my putter (Judge) about 150-160 ft.

I dont throw many putters because i cant seem to find a comfortable grip. Same with mids. I do throw a harp and a berg though.

The problem with driving with putters is that the rim depth doesn't allow me to release them cleanly with any level of consistency. I'm sure this is partly a 'me' problem, but I'm not sure if I should change grip substantially to throw a putter rather than simply using a Mako or something similar that doesn't have the same problem. I have small hands and it also makes throwing high speed (>speed 9 or so) drivers difficult as well.

How is the Latitude 64 SINUS not in here?! The Sinus in the zero medium plastic is my jam!

I do throw putters for long-ish fairway shots, and even off the tee. But I use a fan grip. I do that because I just have a harder time holding the thin rim of a putter with a power grip. Because I don't use a power grip for throwing putters, I obviously don't throw as far. But I can be quite accurate with them.

I putt with Lunar Wizards and I throw a Money Blend Wizard and a Winter Wizard. Laser straight with a soft finish at the end, and they hold whatever line you put it on.

Interesting video, for me none of it applies and believe me I have tried. I am old slow and well not as slim as I used to be, the only disc I can throw well is a DX destroyer which I have thrown 1000's of times. I can throw from 0 to 300 feet perfectly straight with a little finish, regardless (mostly ) of wind, Typical for me from 150-220 ish is an average of 10 feet or so from the basket, maybe If i took the to me to learn a mid/putter I might get 5 or 8 feet average, but since I dont miss from 10.... (well very occasionally) and I putt with the destroyer too, seems to putt better (for me) maybe thats because where i play its almost always windy and the driver seems to put straighter though the often/almost always 10mph plus wind.

I know I’m late to the party, but I just tried out my new pixel, firm electron, and threw it about 310. I’m statting to see the appeal of putters for throwing!

My throwing putters are: Dart, Pure, Proxy, Alter. At 73 I throw everyday. My longest birdie was at "The Fort" #15 at about 40'.

I love throwing putters, my straight putter is a Matty-O Tournament-X Maiden and it glides straight for days.. Was any Maiden in the test?

I still don’t quite understand how people are throwing putters over 300. My judges only go about 250. With drivers i average 300-350

Height and arm speed are the real changes. Here. The thrower is ripping the Discraft and MVP stuff on their ideal lines and height and throwing most of the other stuff way low..put a graph up matching arm speed and height and you'll know what went the farthest.

Hah! Too funny. Radar gun at my last tournament. Both myself and friend are >55yo and in MA2: 53mph! the MA1 friend 42yo: 63mph. Very close to what your friend saw. My question is how far should a 53mph arm be able to throw a disc? and what speed should I be throwing to get max flight? Granted, I could throw maybe a 155g Trespass Lucid (12 5 -0.5 3) and throw farther than 168g Lonestar Lariat(9 5 -1 1). So many factors play into it. Especially wind. Like your disc comparison videos. Keep on doing! Luna 3303 is not what I saw. More like 33-10.5. Not over stable for me either mister 53mph. Who does these flight numbers. I doubt Paul McBeast was the tester. Maybe Hannah was:)

No PA3?

I really want that p2

Would have loved to see the average distance listed for all 25 putters.

I love my Pure for throwing

That's a bit strange that four you guys they didn't make it to the top10, Reko and Praxis are my longest flying putters going to about 360ft !

Totally shocked about the Pure. I throw mine almost as far as my mids and a bit farther than my Proxy and Envys.