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White Noise Generator Kit Build and Theory (#79) 

Martyn Davies
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@adicooli1711
@adicooli1711 2 года назад
Great video, soldered all the components yesterday, haven't gotten round to trying the kit though.
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 2 года назад
Thanks
@Johadart
@Johadart Год назад
Hi Martyn, you can join the blue input connectors with the the slots on the side of them, good video thanks 🤙🏼🇦🇺
@ats89117
@ats89117 5 лет назад
Good video but the output waveform is clearly being distorted by improperly biased gain transistors. It would be interesting to track down which stage is doing this and maybe even correcting it. The only thing we know is that the back biased PN junction in the first transistor is putting out white noise with a very large bandwidth...
@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360
@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360 4 года назад
6:06 vs 35:20 -> I don't know how it is possible to say "works really well" :(
@topquark22
@topquark22 3 года назад
I found that this does not work properly with 2N2222 NPN transistor used as the noise source. The 2N3904 works properly. I don't know why there is a difference.
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 3 года назад
The voltage level is critical, because the transistor is reverse-biased and needs to reach a breakdown threshold before it starts generating noise. I found on mine that the noise doesn't start until about 11V, and you get full noise output at 12V.
@bubbyis1337
@bubbyis1337 4 года назад
Thanks for the previous response, I've got the circuit up and running thanks to this video and your comment :) If I could, I have one more question for you: If I wanted to swap out the variable resistor for another one, which I could access easier, how can I know which resistance value to get? Or should I purchase a bunch and try them out? Thanks :)
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 4 года назад
The preset in the kit is marked 20k, so I would go for a potentiometer/variable resistor of the same value. Audio/volume potentiometers are usually logarithmic type (marked 'A') rather than linear ('B').
@bubbyis1337
@bubbyis1337 4 года назад
@@MartynDavies great, thanks for the reply :)
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 3 года назад
Thanks this has been very helpful. Looks to me like this circuit would work ok on 9v too which is handy for me.
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 3 года назад
I experimented with that. Transistor Q1 really needs 11 to 12V before the junction breaks down and starts generating white noise.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 3 года назад
@@MartynDavies Hmmm, thanks for the heads-up. Perhaps if I replace it with a reverse-biased germanium diode or zener....
@Sabrinathefishinggirl
@Sabrinathefishinggirl 4 года назад
Thanks.
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 3 года назад
Great video thanks for the schematic, saved me loads of effort. I want to output through a speaker so need an amp Is there a video for the amp you used.
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 3 года назад
Thanks. Yes the amp build is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oIcHdHNW9iI.html
@jkadofo
@jkadofo 2 года назад
Yes, it was really nice work to be able to pull a schematic out from just the PCB layout. I will be following your channel keenly 🙂
@gartmorn
@gartmorn 6 лет назад
Pretty much what I hear all the time with my tinnitus! The penalty I paid for working in a power station for thirty odd years!
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 6 лет назад
Sorry to hear that
@gartmorn
@gartmorn 6 лет назад
To be honest the brain blanks it out most of the time and you're only really aware of it when you think about it! The deafness that goes along with it is much more annoying but c'est la vie!
@bubbyis1337
@bubbyis1337 4 года назад
would I be able to power this with a guitar pedal power supply that outputs 12 volts? and if so, how could I connect it to the board? would a 12v dc power connector work? sorry, am brand new to this
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 4 года назад
Yes, that should work, although guitar power supplies that I have seen often have the power jack with the centre pin negative; the opposite of convention. I would always double check the polarity with a multimeter. Be careful connecting circuits like this to guitar effects units also, since commercial effects sometimes have the negative side wired to the audio input (so that it switches on when you put the guitar lead in). There is plenty of opportunity for shorting things out.
@bubbyis1337
@bubbyis1337 4 года назад
@@MartynDavies great, thanks a lot for the reply!
@DaveDickens
@DaveDickens 2 года назад
Hi Martin, thank you for this video. Unfortunately my circuit is creating a loud buzz and only gives me very quiet white noise when the gain is turned right down. Any ideas? Cheers Dave
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 2 года назад
Are you running off 12V? What I remember of this circuit is that it doesn't start to generate white noise until the voltage is a bit higher than 11V, as it uses the reverse breakdown of the transistor junction to generate the noise.
@DaveDickens
@DaveDickens 2 года назад
@@MartynDavies Thank you for replying, you are right although I am using an A23 12v battery, I just checked the volts when plugged into the system and its down to 10.5 volts. Thank you
@Gruftgrabbler
@Gruftgrabbler 5 лет назад
Thank you for your video! :) But I didn't unterstand why C3 is there. Isn't this cap a short circuit for ac? Even though we want to amplify the ac signal?? 0.o
@gkdresden
@gkdresden 2 года назад
Indeed, C3 and R4 form a low pass in order to limit the upper noise frequency to a suitable value. But I think it acts too strictly, so I would suggest to reduce its value from 1 nF (not 10 nF as it was told in the video) to 330 pF.
@avi-brown
@avi-brown 2 года назад
Any idea what the current draw on this was?
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 2 года назад
17 mA
@SusansRelaxingSounds
@SusansRelaxingSounds 2 года назад
nice facility. where can I buy it ?
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 2 года назад
"white noise kit" on ebay brings up quite a few to choose from
@SusansRelaxingSounds
@SusansRelaxingSounds 2 года назад
@@MartynDavies right there are also product on amazon.
@willh9397
@willh9397 5 лет назад
would there be a way to have a portable battery? 12v batteries?
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 5 лет назад
You definitely could run it off batteries. It might also work a bit below 12V. The crucial part is Q1 - that needs to be reverse-biased enough to generate white noise.
@willh9397
@willh9397 5 лет назад
ill give it a try, tyvm sir
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 5 лет назад
I just did a test, and it doesn't start generating white noise until about 11V, and 12V is better. So you will need quite a few batteries.
@willh9397
@willh9397 5 лет назад
wow, thank you for checking that out for me i appreciate it
@johnmorrison989
@johnmorrison989 4 года назад
you did not show the wiring up
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 4 года назад
I wire it up at around 32 minutes
@hesamkamkar4669
@hesamkamkar4669 5 лет назад
Let's say I'm on the phone with someone. When I put this on a certain level that I can't really hear it, does the microphone of my phone hear it? Because if so, then that would mean the person I am talking to on the phone is hearing all the white noise while I can hear him.
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 5 лет назад
Yes, a phone has two different channels of audio in the two directions: from your mic to his speaker and from his mic to your speaker. As long as the white noise is going into your mic and not your ear, only he can hear it.
@hesamkamkar4669
@hesamkamkar4669 5 лет назад
So that means that if I put it on in my living room while I am calling with someone, it probably won't work because the white noise is not targeted specifically to the mic of my phone? By the way, the link from AliExpress in your description is not working.@@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 5 лет назад
It's not a transmitter - the white noise is an audio signal that comes out of the 3.5mm jack, so the only way it can get into your phone is if you have a speaker playing into the phone mic, or the audio is electrically connected in some way.
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 5 лет назад
Link fixed now, but searching for 'white noise generator kit' on Aliexpress shows the kit available from a number of sellers at small variations of price.
@gartmorn
@gartmorn 6 лет назад
I bought cheap sidecutters from ebay in the past but found it was false economy as they lasted no time before becoming blunt!
@DCPier
@DCPier 4 года назад
Lol, all I got from this stupid kit was some horrible 50Hz squealing and screeching that changed its annoyance level by turning the little trimpot, not anywhere near white noise at all... :D
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 4 года назад
Are you using 12V? I suspect that q1 doesn't produce white noise without a sufficient reverse voltage
@DCPier
@DCPier 4 года назад
@@MartynDavies Yes, it was a 12V wallwart, I had no batteries at hand... and I think it's the culprit introducing the unwanted noise which the kit couldn't handle...
@DCPier
@DCPier 4 года назад
@Jorn Navarre Lol, yes, it was a crappy wallwart. I don't have a stabilized 12V supply at hand at the moment and 12V batteries are a bit of a hassle to put together with 1.5V cells ;)
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 4 года назад
£1.25 on eBay waste of money did sod all..
@MartynDavies
@MartynDavies 4 года назад
Sorry to hear that. Did you power it from 12V? This seems to be needed.
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