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Who Built The Doomsday Machine: Star Trek (TOS) 

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Well this has been a long standing mystery that has never been answered in canon. However, non-canon sources have given the doomsday machine some interesting stories and origins. We hope you enjoy our video, and we have posted the links regarding the Doomsday machine we mentioned in the video, if yo would like some further information. Have a great Day.
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@Sammyandbobsdad
@Sammyandbobsdad 2 месяца назад
This is my favorite Star Trek episode, and one of the things I like is that the doomsday machine looks so alien, and almost organic.
@pallen49
@pallen49 2 месяца назад
It looks like a fresh bamboo shoots to me.. Google it if you're not sure what that is..and skim thru some pics..I swear, it looks just like it, lol
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 месяца назад
Indeed, and I think if it had been made, as originally envisioned, bristling with weapons and technology, it would not have had nearly as profound an impact, to be honest. It was so great, and captivated the imagination, partly because it was so thoroughly _unique_ in its appearance and design. This is clearly not something built by any of the races we've know about or have ever encountered elsewhere in the Star Trek universe. It looks simultaneously both completely alien and also _absolutely ancient._ It has the appearance of something that might, once upon a time, have had many more exterior details, or maybe even been able to move in much more sophisticated ways, but it has simply _existed for so long_ that all of that is gone now. Yet, even with all of that gone, even perhaps being only a mere husk of its original glory and power, it is _still_ an existential threat greater than anything else anyone's ever encountered. I also love the fact that the technology involved is, in some ways, both almost inconceivable but also blatantly simple. It isn't protected by tons of technology or shields, which somebody might be able to manipulate or find a weakness in. Its skin is just _so incredibly tough_ that there is physically no way to damage it. It doesn't have tons of fancy weapons that work on new scientific principles, which somebody might be able to come up with clever defenses for. It just unleashes _a beam of pure energy_ which is just so much more powerful than anything anybody's encountered before, that that it just brute-force smashes through shields and planets alike. It does not need anything more to do its job. And that very simplicity is also, in a way, frightening.
@gerryjames9720
@gerryjames9720 2 месяца назад
And then I saw a sandworm.
@user-rg7uh9se4c
@user-rg7uh9se4c 2 месяца назад
Are u talking about the machine's appearance in the remastered edition in 2005 or the original appearance of it originally on TV in the 1960s.?
@Sammyandbobsdad
@Sammyandbobsdad 2 месяца назад
@@user-rg7uh9se4c I have not seen the remastered version but I’m sure it is better. What I liked about it was that as a concept it looked so alien from something we earthlings would build, so in my imagination as both a child and now as an adult I could see past the budgetary constraints and 1960s effects limitations and see the machine as it would appear as a real thing. I hope I’m making sense. It was the most unusual looking alien craft I can remember. Also, no shade on William Windom’s great performance but I would love to have seen Robert Ryan in the Commodore role.
@martinmowbray4304
@martinmowbray4304 Месяц назад
One of the best episodes of all Star Trek. Not just the original series.
@ObsessedCollector
@ObsessedCollector Месяц назад
second for me only behind* city on the edge of forever
@mikesbaseballcards
@mikesbaseballcards 24 дня назад
Assignment Earth is the best episode.
@billkilbourne6409
@billkilbourne6409 23 дня назад
Its amazing, thru out all the spin-offs, and years how popular this episode remains
@stevensica5918
@stevensica5918 10 дней назад
Written by Norman Spinrad.
@SierraThunder
@SierraThunder 2 месяца назад
William Windom justly deserved an Emmy for his performance of Commodore Matt Decker. The anguish that he managed to call up from somewhere deep inside of his soul was one of the most dynamic portrayals of a man mentally & emotionally broken by the loss of his entire crew, plus his inability to save them. Edit: I really wish that the writers had found a better way to deal with the issue of Decker's self-torment, (although I understand just how much it must of shattered him), to have to literally listen to all of his crew be slaughtered & being thoroughly helpless to do ANYTHING to rectify a cataclysmic error in judgement. Which in turn, finally caused him to sacrifice himself by running that pitiable little shuttlecraft into the machine in both a vain attempt to destroy the machine & in his own mind & soul, he might hopefully atone for the deaths of his entire command. He would have made for a FANTASTIC recurring character to write scripts for, and IMHO, the addition of the character of Commodore Decker just might have saved Star Trek from cancellation a year & a half later. RIP to one of my all-time favorite character actors, William Windom
@johnkeviljr9625
@johnkeviljr9625 2 месяца назад
I absolutely agree. Windom nailed emotionally.
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 2 месяца назад
Was he related to Will Decker from the motion picture? I ask because the motion picture employs a similar worst case scenario solution as the OG giant death chud from outer space episode.
@johnkeviljr9625
@johnkeviljr9625 2 месяца назад
@@darthwiizius Good question. I don't know, but it seems to be too much of a coincidence with the name Decker.
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 2 месяца назад
@@johnkeviljr9625 Aye, to me it does too. In my experience there are no such thing as coincidences.
@SierraThunder
@SierraThunder 2 месяца назад
@@darthwiizius Yes, Captain Will Decker is Commodore Matt Decker's son. From what I understand & was told by a friend who worked on both the show & the film, Will Decker was supposed to command the Enterprise for the first three episodes of what was going to be Star Trek: Phase II. Then he was either going to be reassigned or killed & Kirk would once again take over.. Edit Note: When I referred to a friend of mine working on the show, I should have clarified which which show. It was Star Trek: Phase II, he would have been too young to have been working on TOS. He was one Hell of a great kit bash modeler, and he's worked on a number of other sci-fi projects as well.
@coolbear6441
@coolbear6441 2 месяца назад
I got to meet James Doohan at a convention and I asked him what his favorite episode was and he said it was this one because of everything he got to do 👍👍
@KaijuBiologist
@KaijuBiologist 18 дней назад
Yes, that was a good Scotty episode.
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 2 месяца назад
I like the fact that we may never know what alien race created the Doomsday Machine and for what purpose, it is now agreed that it was created in an ancient war probably millions of years ago and that its creators are now extinct, the actual mystery of it and it’s origins has a a great mystique and that adds to its appeal today. I think some mysteries should remain mysteries.
@tommydecastro2047
@tommydecastro2047 2 месяца назад
A novel that was written in the early nineties it was a surviving member of guinan’s people to destroy the borg.
@WiSMs
@WiSMs 2 месяца назад
@@tommydecastro2047 extended universe/fan fiction of the 90s
@chrischreative2245
@chrischreative2245 2 месяца назад
Star Trek TNG novel Vendetta by Peter David
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst 2 месяца назад
The creators of the Doomsday device were from a time long before the Borg or the El-Aurians. Remember the Borg must get their members from various different species of biologicals, which implies that they could not have existed at a time when there not many different races around the Galaxy. Not only that, but if the Borg were billions, (or even millions) of years old, there would be a LOT more of them. They multiply on a logarithmic scale, so if they were around that long, there wouldn't be any room for organic species to even evolve in the first place. No, the Doomsday machine has nothing to with Borg.
@Whalewraith
@Whalewraith 2 месяца назад
Peter was one of Marvels top writers at the time. I remember him doing a decade long run on 'Hulk'
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 2 месяца назад
The performance for Commadore Decker will live through the ages, the actor's voice is amazing.
@scottb7539
@scottb7539 2 месяца назад
How about Primacron creator of Unicron ? Possible
@Howelly69
@Howelly69 2 месяца назад
Yeah the actor did a real good job in the role.
@sargentrock333
@sargentrock333 Месяц назад
I think Decker from the 1979 original Star Trek movie was supposed to be commodore Decker's son. Also another great line in that movie was by Mr Spock of course "Vulcans never bluff"
@WhiteCamry
@WhiteCamry Месяц назад
His name was William Windom.
@DanielAppleton-lr9eq
@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Месяц назад
@@sargentrock333 Yep, Matt was / is Commodore decker's son.
@keving.5295
@keving.5295 2 месяца назад
The budgetary restrictions resulted in an infinitely better depiction of the doomsday machine than what Spinrad envisioned. It only makes sense that a neutronium hull would be too dense to shape into a normal space ship. And it looked ten times more menacing too.
@TheWilkReport
@TheWilkReport 2 месяца назад
As well, the eventual idea behind the model used for the episode suggested that the outer hull and weaponry had been over time stripped away by successions of battles and space travel, leaving only the inner hull and primary weapon that broke planets up and converted them to fuel for the machine.
@stevew8513
@stevew8513 2 месяца назад
As far as Spinrad's original idea goes, a grey tapered cylinder really fits the concept of a Moby Dick style killer whale far better than a technologically advanced warship bristling with weaponry. Having the outside look like that calls back to either a whale or possibly a shark, a killing machine that doesn't do what it does out of calculated destruction, it does it out of survival instinct. And I like that there's never been a follow-up episode explaining it... it doesn't need it. It's just an object of terror, letting the audience know there's similar unexplainable horrors out in the universe, waiting to be discovered.
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 2 месяца назад
This to me represents a slightly more primitive race than whatever race built the Dyson sphere (which is said to be either the T'kon or the Iconians in more recent lore) but it too was made from not only neutronium but alloyed with carbon so they can manipulate it in a far more advanced way. This to me represents a race that hasn't quite figured out how to use this material as efficiently but also slightly above what the federation is capable of. Maybe the very beginnings of a type 2 civilization, which is close to where the federation is in current canon.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 месяца назад
@@DeathBYDesign666 Just because they used a different material for a different purpose doesn't mean they were less advanced. That's sorta like saying "well, we found a car, and it was made out of steel, so the civilization that made it clearly doesn't know how to make titanium or carbon fiber, so it must be less advanced." Different materials always have different advantages and disadvantages for various applications. In particular, it seems reasonable to expect that pure neutronium would be denser and more resistant to damage than an alloy would be, which makes it obviously much more appropriate if your primary goal is to be armor for a weapon. It's also quite possible that, once upon a time, a long time ago, the doomsday machine also had many more exterior details and bits of technology, possibly made from other materials (like the sorts of alloys that make up the sphere), but that it has simply existed for so long that even those have all been worn away over time, and all that remains is the extremely dense pure neutronium shell intended to protect its most critical inner workings. (To be honest, the asymmetrical, "bent" appearance of the machine has always made me feel that maybe at one point it was actually designed to be fully articulated, and could move much more like some sort of snake, but over the many millennia it has been travelling alone through space, being worn down by dust and random collisions and such, its joints have also become fused together and it is no longer able to move the way it once did. Yet, even having lost almost all of its mobility, almost all of its exterior equipment and technology, and essentially becoming only a pale husk of its original glory, even still, it remains an existential threat to the whole universe greater and more frightening than anything previously encountered. One can only imagine how terrifying it must have been to encounter a fully functional one, way back when it was actually in its prime...)
@johnassal5838
@johnassal5838 2 месяца назад
It's funny but it's often the limitations of time, budget or oversight that force creatives to do their best work only to get themselves into hopeless situations when they don't have these limitations to keep them sharp. George Lucas with the SW prequels and the Clone Wars TV show come to mind as prime examples, RotJ to a much lesser degree. It's not coincidental that Empire was his finest SW film as he was still under tremendous pressure to both get something out quickly and to prove the success of Ep4 wasn't a fluke. That and he still had to work with strong equals like Kasdon keeping him focused rather than fanboys like Feloni indulging every stupid crazy whim he just had to stuff into the scene.
@jasonjimerson7046
@jasonjimerson7046 2 месяца назад
My summary on this episode, which, by the way, is my favorite TOS episode of Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine was a miles long weapon of last resort built by an unknown alien race from outside our galaxy that obviously destroyed both sides of the war it was built to fight in. Made up of a neutronium shell, it was built to withstand any and all attacks around it and programmed to defend itself with a pure anti-proton beam radiated from its open maw. It refueled itself by consuming planetary material through said maw using its attack beam, cutting it down and tractor it inside to fuel itself, which allows it to keep on going indefinitely or until it consumes every last source of planetary material, then it either moves on to find more targets to consume or possibly shut down to conserve power and drift until it discovers another planetary body. Spock mentioned that this machine was, in fact, a robot programmed to attack anyone who got too close to it. Another thing I noticed about this episode was the scene where the Enterprise was being pulled into the machine. Everyone looked around oddly because they were supposed to hear a humming sound from the machine, which we did not hear because it was cut from the production, despite the scene still being there. Also, in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the character of Captain William Decker (Stephen Collins) was the son of Commodore Matt Decker. I believe the name William was a reference to William Windom, but I may be wrong. That's all I got!
@davidmajors514
@davidmajors514 9 дней назад
What was cool to me about the scene where they were humming- I always thought they were looking around because they thought the ship was about to break apart.
@PC4USE1
@PC4USE1 2 месяца назад
Everyone seems to list "City at the edge of forever" as their favorite episode,and it is great but the tension and drama exhibited in THIS episode puts it head in my view. Windom,who was a character actor on TV for the most part puts in a bravura performance as Decker and all the regulars rise to the occasion as well. Captain Ahab meets Horatio Hornblower in space.
@jyralnadreth4442
@jyralnadreth4442 2 месяца назад
His performance was amazing 👏 his unshaven look combined with genuine terror he displayed made Deckers trauma so real 😊 for 1 episode his appearance makes me want more 😅 Decker was highly experienced in combat against the Klingons and others...to do that to the man it had to be something truly awful 😢
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore 2 месяца назад
@PC4USE1 Thank you for your comment and I hope you enjoyed our video. City on the Edge of Forever was an absolutely fantastic episode, and it is one of my favorite TOS episodes. But for money my number one and number two are The Doomsday Machine, and Balance of Terror. And they are interchangeable. Which ever one I am watching at the time is my favorite, lol. But they are always my Top 2. Again thank you for your comment, it is greatly appreciated, and stay tuned, there is more Sci-Fi to come. Have a great day. Mike
@Kitty-CatDaddy
@Kitty-CatDaddy 2 месяца назад
@@scifiandmore BINGO!
@davidellismartin9619
@davidellismartin9619 2 месяца назад
Agreed!!
@darrinwebber4077
@darrinwebber4077 2 месяца назад
Space Seed with Ricardo Montalban as Khan will always be my favorite episode. And Wrath of Khan will always be my favorite Trek film.
@craigalbrechtson5364
@craigalbrechtson5364 2 месяца назад
I feel that part of the appeal of that particular episode is the fact that the machine's origins are not revealed. Even though it's destroyed it remains a mystery. And people love a good mystery even if it's not solvable. That being said, I prefer to go with Captain Kirk's speculation that it was a weapon used in a war in some other Galaxy eons ago. It sounds a bit more exotic and mysterious that way.
@masonbrooksjr.166
@masonbrooksjr.166 Месяц назад
Kirk:Bones did you ever hear of a doomsday machine?Bones: No!, I'm a doctor not a mechanic.
@joestitz239
@joestitz239 Месяц назад
From another galaxy, yet between galaxies Nothing to eat, especially any rubble, minor dust not near enough to fuel it to survive. Any galaxy would have enough easily to sustain it, it wouldn't have to ever leave.
@DanielAppleton-lr9eq
@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Месяц назад
@@joestitz239 Slap a singularity engine into that thing, BINGO ! Then you'd have a Romulan.
@sarahdawn7075
@sarahdawn7075 2 месяца назад
One of my favorite episodes. When it originally aired I was around 10 or 11 yrs old. I thought it was terrifying. I also remember thinking of the machine as a sort of killer cornucopia. It's still the first thing that pops into my head when I hear the term doomsday.
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 2 месяца назад
That's the same impression I had.
@lawr5764
@lawr5764 Месяц назад
​@@surferdude4487DITTO
@mikeyoung9810
@mikeyoung9810 Месяц назад
I was eleven or 12 and I used to have my 8 favorite episodes on vhs and this was one of them.
@DanielAppleton-lr9eq
@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Месяц назад
@@mikeyoung9810 It looked like a weird stone tornado when I saw it, which also fed into my dislike of storms.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 2 месяца назад
*Kirk:* What could have destroyed an entire planet? *Spock:* Captain, I believe it was a giant wind sock. *Kirk:* But there's no wind in space! *Spock:* Tell that to the sock.
@edwardpike3386
@edwardpike3386 2 месяца назад
This has to be my favorite Trek episode. William Windom had a great performance.
@danjohnson887
@danjohnson887 2 месяца назад
Yes he did!!!!
@jyralnadreth4442
@jyralnadreth4442 2 месяца назад
Fantastic performance...you could really tell Commodore Decker had been thoroughly traumatised by the loss of his crew and was wracked with survivor guilt. This episode is en par to Balance of Terror.
@Burl-tw1yu
@Burl-tw1yu 2 месяца назад
​@@jyralnadreth4442 that one moment "..don't you think I know that? There was..but not anymore!"
@jyralnadreth4442
@jyralnadreth4442 2 месяца назад
@@Burl-tw1yu Indeed
@stratcat4450
@stratcat4450 2 месяца назад
I have OTA tv, which I wouldn't trade for free cable. There is a channel that airs star TREK 6 nites a week. That episode just aired again last week. I'll never get tired of rewatching it.
@WilliamRWarrenJr
@WilliamRWarrenJr 2 месяца назад
I have personally heard Spinrad say, "When Gene asked me to design it, I knew he was a pilot, so I said it looks like a windsock dipped in concrete. He wanted me to think about something more complicated and I spent hours, DAYS, coming up with ideas. As it turned out, when they got around to shooting it, there wasn't any budget left, so we went with a windsock dipped in concrete."
@jamesknauer540
@jamesknauer540 2 месяца назад
The episode was a mini-opera. Each character including the device had a musical motif in a brilliant score.
@alexgataric
@alexgataric Месяц назад
The jaws-like doomsday machine motif always scared me.
@cabbievonbump
@cabbievonbump 2 месяца назад
Here's a theory. The Doomsday Machine was created during the time of the Slaver Empire, one billion years ago, and was simply inactive until recently. The neutronium hull acted like a piezoelectric cell that, every time it was hit with micrometeors and space dust, would translate the impact into electric energy and eventually was able to go back online with its programming. Must a theory.
@mikeandrews9551
@mikeandrews9551 2 месяца назад
“Gentleman, I suggest you beam me aboard” The most stressed Captain Kirk has ever been.
@ArmyJames
@ArmyJames 29 дней назад
He’s been more stressed than that.
@dennisswaim8210
@dennisswaim8210 2 месяца назад
This thing and the concept behind it was truly terrifying. Great episode, top ten of TOS.
@spaceace1006
@spaceace1006 2 месяца назад
When I first saw this, I was a Kid and it scared the s*** outta me!!!
@russellgilbert3453
@russellgilbert3453 2 месяца назад
I agree, this thing still scares me to this day! 😮
@landline00
@landline00 2 месяца назад
Top 10??!! I'd say 🔝 5.
@oldworldpatriot8920
@oldworldpatriot8920 2 месяца назад
Released at the prime meat era of the Cold War,naturally it’s an allegory for nuclear weapons and the problems we face,and problems for the future we face having them exist in the first place
@alabamaal225
@alabamaal225 2 месяца назад
In the original episode "The Doomsday Machine", it was thought that the Planet Killer was millions of years old and its trajectory indicated it came from outside the Galaxy. So, the question arises: why did the Planet Killer leave its original galaxy? One chilling supposition is that it had destroyed most, if not all, of the planetary systems in its original galaxy, and so moved out for further "prey". If built millions of years ago, it would have had time to do so. The implication of this would be that hundreds of thousands of civilizations in the other galaxy were destroyed; the galaxy now barren of life. That the crew of the Enterprise was able to destroy the Planet Killer (and the Constellation not being completely destroyed but only damaged) may indicate that the Planet Killer's computer intelligence may have deteriorated with age, compromising its defensive capabilities. Otherwise, the Planet Killer would have immediately destroyed any threat, no matter how slight.
@barriewright2857
@barriewright2857 20 дней назад
That's a brilliant commentary and information to base a film or TV series on , Brilliant.
@KaijuBiologist
@KaijuBiologist 18 дней назад
Or humans are bad@$$ apex predators capable of killing anything we meet .😁😁
@farkinarkin5099
@farkinarkin5099 2 месяца назад
Doomsday Machine is number one in my list of TOS episodes... "Don't you think I know that!" LOL.
@SiXiam
@SiXiam 2 месяца назад
Balance of terror is one on my list.
@farkinarkin5099
@farkinarkin5099 2 месяца назад
@@SiXiam "He's a sorcerer, that one..."
@oldworldpatriot8920
@oldworldpatriot8920 2 месяца назад
This and Mirror,Mirror are my top two favorite episodes of TOS
@micharlsantos3348
@micharlsantos3348 26 дней назад
Not any more!! The emotion in that line was a broken man !
@timcarpenter2441
@timcarpenter2441 24 дня назад
“There was, but not any more!”
@paulkreider9441
@paulkreider9441 2 месяца назад
The fight between Decker and his security escort is most realistic fight in the Star Trek series. I could feel the rage and blows delivered by two men. The unlucky redshirt was against a man in full blown psychotic rage . A man who could not be stopped. Very realistic and scary.
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 Месяц назад
Have you noticed the trend in TOS that every starship Captain seems to be particularly expert at hand to hand combat? Apart from Jim Kirk and Decker we also have Captain Ron Tracey in _The Omega Glory_ episode.
@normangiven6436
@normangiven6436 2 месяца назад
A windsock filled with foam. Sometimes great things come from small budgets. A great episode!
@jayfredrickson8632
@jayfredrickson8632 2 месяца назад
The first time I saw the episode I said it looked like a giant windsock! No idea it actually was🤣
@VespoLiveGaming
@VespoLiveGaming 2 месяца назад
I always thought it was a giant cannoli
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 месяца назад
@@VespoLiveGaming That's-a spicy cannoli!
@SierraThunder
@SierraThunder 2 месяца назад
The original "Communicator" from "The Menangerie" cost a whopping total of $1.18 in parts & construction costs. Truly, the economics of the 23rd century are much different. Just paraphrasing Picard here.....
@stevemayandleilaroehead870
@stevemayandleilaroehead870 Месяц назад
We always said it was a giant sausage roll lol! Would never though it was a windsock:) my favourite episode:)
@noahbody9875
@noahbody9875 2 месяца назад
I always preferred Spock's conjecture on its origins. It's more interesting and there are just somethings that humans will never know or understand.
@scottwalker6947
@scottwalker6947 Месяц назад
The one thing that I have always liked abut Trek, is that the universe is a mysterious place.
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 2 месяца назад
This was one of the first Star Trek episode I watched as a kid in the 1970s. When Kirk tells Decker "there is no third planet!" I thought he was referring to Earth!
@josephblunt5987
@josephblunt5987 2 месяца назад
I think he was. This episode is a cautionary tale about nuclear weapons being misused. It’s a difficult message.
@RydarkVoyager
@RydarkVoyager 2 месяца назад
"There was, but not anymore!" So much pain and grief, embedded in a single sentence.
@shadowpoet4398
@shadowpoet4398 2 месяца назад
The look of disassociation and sheer primal terror, mixed with a totally baffled lack of understanding, pure trauma. "..... 🥺 _DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT?!_ There WAS! BUT NOT ANYMORE!"
@demongo2007
@demongo2007 2 месяца назад
Decker's response (breaking down in tears), "Don't you think I know that?!?", really affected me as a kid seeing it for the first time. Amazing acting.
@EddieGonzalez-zm6vw
@EddieGonzalez-zm6vw Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard 2 месяца назад
My favorite episode of EVERYTHING. As a kid, I always referred to the Doomsday Machine as, "The Giant Ice-Cream Cone".
@HepTunes
@HepTunes Месяц назад
Yep. I called it The Killer Ice Cream Cone.
@You-can-fix-it-yourself
@You-can-fix-it-yourself Месяц назад
O.K., you got me. I made that machine. It got loose during a thunderstorm and I thought it would eventually come home.
@goblinoidfilms7119
@goblinoidfilms7119 2 месяца назад
The Cornucopia of Destruction ep. Always been a fav of mine since I was very young. Some truly haunting lines and scenes in this one.
@danjohnson887
@danjohnson887 2 месяца назад
My favorite episode in TOS. Even the cinematography was superb.
@mitchmegaw7201
@mitchmegaw7201 2 месяца назад
Mine too. The music still makes me tense up.
@gallery7596
@gallery7596 2 месяца назад
And the editing.
@michaelm345
@michaelm345 2 месяца назад
I always assumed that it was a damaged piece of engineering equipment used to disassemble planets and use the material to build new planets or mega structures. My thought was that the damage caused it to continuously search for material to consume.
@RedRocket4000
@RedRocket4000 29 дней назад
Ah! the reason self replicating probes would be banned universe wide. My Sci Fi idea has humanities following orders and deleting an entire lower tech civilization that is close to making a Self Replication probe because failure to do so would have a massively higher tech civilization come from the nearest Galactic Wall of Galaxy to delete Mankind. This fool more primitive civilization would have been under my version of humanities Prime directive that they normally follow faithfully. Exception being if they end up in area likely to be contested with another Galactic Power. Humanity was leaning towards invasion and conversion of that civilization before being contacted not ending it when the probe bill passed that world's parliament. The end self replication probe civilizations rule included parts of universe to far away for us to observe it said 16 major Galaxy had been cleared of all non star matter by the probes before they were all hunted down in truly massive effort.
@Nowhereman10
@Nowhereman10 2 месяца назад
There's actually no evidence outside of Norman Spinrad's comment about the model being a "windsock dipped in cement" as a number of the model builders and collectors on various boards have closely examined the footage and determined it is not concrete, but plastic or perhaps even heavy gaffer's foil. Perhaps some kind of other gaffer's kit material in the form of colored gels. It's the opinion of many of these people that a windsock dipped in concrete was just Spinrad being facetious, rather than factual, and that *literal* concrete would be far too heavy to be practical. Others have thought it to be not quite literal, but close to the truth in that it could mean the model's "cement" was actually... well... adhesive glue. In either case, another interesting feature of the episode is the USS Constellation herself, an AMT model pressed into service for the episode, which is another prop that apparently no longer survives. However, Matt Jefferies had originally wanted Richard C. Datin, who built the original models, most especially THE original 33-inch Enterprise studio model, to come back and build a replica of it and damage it for use as the Constellation. Unfortunately, Datin was apparently unavailable to do the work due to commitments to other TV series, and in the desperation and tight budgets, they lucked out with the AMT model kit being available for use instead. Jefferies would go on to use another modified AMT model to represent the Enterprise in "The Trouble With Tribbles" for the shots of the model orbiting in the far distance around Space Station K-7 in exterior shots and was the little Enterprise seen outside office window set on the station itself. That model at least is still with us and is on display at the Seattle Pop Culture Museum.
@fobwatchful
@fobwatchful 2 месяца назад
From the text of the episode, the planet killer was built a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. That could only be one other franchise! 😁
@jyralnadreth4442
@jyralnadreth4442 2 месяца назад
In Novels Captain Picard researched the Doomsday Machine and he came to the conclusion that that assumption was mistaken as with no planets between Galaxies, it would not be able to refuel.
@fiktivhistoriker345
@fiktivhistoriker345 2 месяца назад
​@@jyralnadreth4442It could have drifted between the galaxies. Once given an impulse for moving it would not need any propellant device.
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore 2 месяца назад
@fobwatchful That's hilarious, awesome comment. I was thinking along the same lines when I was putting the video together, that's the big reason I included a picture of the Doomsday Machine burning a hole in the Death Star. Thanks for the comment. And stay tuned, there is more Sci-Fi on the way. Have a great day. Mike
@spaceflight1019
@spaceflight1019 2 месяца назад
​@@fiktivhistoriker345Once its power reached a certain level, the machine would have entered a power saving mode.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 месяца назад
@@jyralnadreth4442 It's also possible that it does not actually expend as much power to move from system to system as it gains from consuming the planets, and what it is actually doing is _storing up_ vast amounts of energy so that once it has enough collected, it can travel between galaxies without needing to refuel along the way.
@sethmaki1333
@sethmaki1333 2 месяца назад
There's something fundamentally important that the writers of the show and many of the fans forget to take into account and it always makes me laugh because the fact of it is so plain that it just slaps me in the face: the machine is said to have been constructed of neutronium, a hypothetical material consisting of the degenerate material of a neutron star. The material is so dense that a star only about the size of New York City has a mass dozens of times of that of the sun. If the machine were as big as depicted, that much mass concentrated into an object that large would form an absolutely enormous gravitational effect due to the warping of spacetime that much mass would create. The machine wouldn't even need a primary weapon, its could disrupt planetary orbits from parsecs away with merely its presence.
@malachiXX
@malachiXX 2 месяца назад
Not to mention, the gravitational force it possessed would tear planets apart without the need to shoot at them. It would consume whole solar systems just by entering them and as neutron promotion continued, it would take that mass and continue to grow, slowly. Until it became a black hole and officially 'died'. Maybe that is what happened to others like it.
@INFILTR8US
@INFILTR8US 2 месяца назад
Intriguing!
@pallen49
@pallen49 2 месяца назад
@@INFILTR8US 'Fascinating'!!
@mrsamaritan6881
@mrsamaritan6881 2 месяца назад
Presumably it has technology to counter the gravitational effect, otherwise it wouldn't be able to hold it's shape and collapse into an intert sphere, rending it useless. If you spend more than two seconds thinking about, it not a far-fetched idea for a race with the confirmed ability to actually construct something out of neutronium.
@JAMESLEVEE
@JAMESLEVEE 2 месяца назад
Not only that, but consider: If the object's hull was solid neutronium, that would imply that someone was able to manipulate the shape of a neutron star. Okay, but how would it maintain its shape? The gravitational field would tend to collapse it back into a sphere pretty quickly. Any interior mechanism,(s) would have to be perfectly balanced at the center of gravity of the hull without contacting it. Any portion of the device that contacted the interior wall would collapse into neutrons and draw the rest of the components along with it. An antiproton beam would be affected by the gravitational field of the hull, and may not have been able to even escape the maw of the machine.
@Pat-nl4wk
@Pat-nl4wk 2 месяца назад
There are a good deal of storage containers on the paramount lot(s). A few years back, property brothers renovated the Brady Bunch house. That is the home you would see from the outside at the beginning of each episode. The home was purchased and renovated to the exact set from the BB show. Some of the original living room decorations were found in a storage container on a Paramount lot. So, one never knows if the model of the Doomsday Machine may still exist.
@AlanEmmons-qw6bg
@AlanEmmons-qw6bg 2 месяца назад
And the Brady Bunch was on at the same time as Star Trek so I was overruled on watching it until it reran the second part of the year. RATS CAROL I'm really pissed at you! MARSHA MARSHA MARSHA!!!😡
@fhbaynes
@fhbaynes 2 месяца назад
The doomsday machine still exists. She’s my ex wife.
@timothyhuggins5481
@timothyhuggins5481 2 месяца назад
😂
@yeltsin6817
@yeltsin6817 2 месяца назад
There must be 2. I have one in my sector as well
@damionparson247
@damionparson247 2 месяца назад
She must share a mainframe with my wife😂😂😂
@tvdroid22
@tvdroid22 2 месяца назад
They must've made more than one.
@DavidJones-me7yr
@DavidJones-me7yr 2 месяца назад
Or current wife and there's been Millions mass produced!!😢😢😢😢😂😂😊
@jimwilson7824
@jimwilson7824 27 дней назад
I remember watching this as a kid when the series was it on network television and how I couldn’t wait for the commercials to end to see what happened throughout the episode. William Windom went from victim to goat to villain to hero. One of the top 3 episodes in my opinion.
@ChemitoRodriguez
@ChemitoRodriguez 2 месяца назад
I subscribed because of your 57 year spoiler alert. 🤣
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore 2 месяца назад
@ChemitoRodriguez Thank you for subscribing, and I have to say "AWESOME COMMENT" I just about spit my coffee out laughing at your comment this morning. I love a good laugh in the morning. It seems ridiculous to me to have a spoiler alert for something this old, classic, but old. I started this channel about a year ago for fun and my first real attempt at a video was a 1950's Top 10 Sci-Fi movies video. And I did not do a spoiler alert, and I received so many comments that I needed to have a spoiler alert because I ruined these 70 year old movies for the people that commented. I thought how old are these people commenting, 12? So now I put a spoiler alert in. Absolutely fantastic comment to read in the morning. I loved it. Stay tuned there is more Sci-Fi to come. Have a great day. Mike
@TheOnePhillip
@TheOnePhillip 2 месяца назад
I have watched this episode so many times I could quote you every bit of dialogue word for word. I like the new SFX. This episode aired back in October of 1967 one day before I was born
@markmcintosh2737
@markmcintosh2737 Месяц назад
I was 7 at the time. This episode is burned into my memory.
@glenchapman3899
@glenchapman3899 2 месяца назад
At the time it was pretty obvious the machine is based on "Berserkers" a series of stories published in the first half of the 60s by Fred Saberhagen. The only difference was his Berserkers could be defeated with trickery or logic
@andyf4292
@andyf4292 2 месяца назад
the berzerkers need to come back to star trek
@pssthpok
@pssthpok 2 месяца назад
Good stories!
@glenchapman3899
@glenchapman3899 2 месяца назад
@@pssthpok They really were. I read them in the early 70's and they have stuck with me all this time.
@chalion8399
@chalion8399 2 месяца назад
I think, no. Berserkers were an idea with Total War, from the lowest to highest destruction potentials. Kill 1 organism(bacteria, higher life, it didn't matter to their logic), kill Billions, it didn't matter to them as long as they got to kill. The Doomsday Machine, to me, was for deconstruction on a planetary level. It's simple in deployment and does the job, but has only that singular purpose. It only fights the ships that attacked it, it was ignoring them until they went into that machines' range. I'll have to rewatch the episode (I have all 3 seasons on media). But like I said, this is my opinion.
@MROJPC
@MROJPC 2 месяца назад
@@glenchapman3899 I started reading them in the 90's. The idea behind the Berserkers is just astounding and chilling, like cosmic horror. "The Stone Place" and "Sign of the Wolf" were two of my favorites. There was an episode of Babylon 5, "A Day in the Strife", that paid homage to the stories. A really terrifying novel from 90's called "The Killing Star" adapts the idea and adds the idea of relativistic weapons and that humanity is capable of becoming as bad if not worse than the Berserkers.
@KristoferOlafsson
@KristoferOlafsson Месяц назад
My head cannon: it wasn’t even a weapon. It was just a mining machine. The race was probably one of the ancient AI robot races, maybe from andromeda galaxy. It just drifted for so long the exterior was just the resources it picked up while mining, it grows over time because it picks up more material waiting for its owners to pick it up. It would play into the Idea that the galactic barrier is there to keep stuff like that out. Until “we” are ready.
@CallardAndBowser
@CallardAndBowser 2 месяца назад
The person that created it was a woman named Delcara. She was a survivor of the destruction of her planet Penzatti by the Borg in the outer rim of the galaxy, near where the Borg originated from and near Guinan's home planet. She built the first prototype Doomsday Machine which malfunctioned and went off on it's own, which was battled by Captain Kirk. Later she built a larger final version and used Neutronium for constructing the hull and set off to complete her revenge of totally destroying the Borg.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 месяца назад
Frankly, that is actually one of the most unimaginative, unsatisfying, and really just lame explanations of all of them that I've heard, IMHO. "Oh, there's this planet-destroying weapon. It just must be directly connected to the one other civilization-destroying enemy we happen to have stumbled across thus far, because my imagination is too limited to come up with any new ideas and I have to reuse everybody else's." The universe is an incredibly huge place. The entire known space of the Federation only makes up *one small corner of one of hundreds of billions of galaxies.* The idea that everything must be connected to something else we already know about and nothing could possibly have a backstory which is entirely unconnected to our previous encounters just seems like such a small and sad way to approach a whole (literal) universe of possibilities that actually could exist...
@CallardAndBowser
@CallardAndBowser 2 месяца назад
@@foogod4237 I know but that was the way it was written in the Star Trek NG novel, don't blame me.
@stewarttomkinson3356
@stewarttomkinson3356 Месяц назад
First time I saw the Borg I thought they made it
@HepTunes
@HepTunes Месяц назад
@@CallardAndBowser Yes, the gripping 1991 novel, Vendetta. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendetta_(Star_Trek) A kick-ass book well worth reading.
@johnparadox9429
@johnparadox9429 2 месяца назад
I read SciFi for a decade before Trek, and often referred to the Doomsday Machine as a Berserker. I had also been familiar with William Windom from the series My World And Welcome To It, based on James Thurber's writings, so his performance showed a nice change and wider range.
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 2 месяца назад
IMO, the giant novel 'Vendetta' is my headcanon for the origin of the Doomsday Machine, less than 2,000 years before its climactic engagement with the Enterprise and Constellation. However, in my ideas for ST: Legacy, I have drafted an ideat that addresses the same idea: Whilst surveying a newly-opened sector, the Enterprise-G is suddenly struck by a uranium sabot travelling close to the speed of light. When the shocked crew track it back and use uranium decay dating, they determine that this was an anti-ship weapon fired from a gravitational railgun possibly tens of millions of years ago and millions of light-years away that, having missed its target, had continued to travel in between galaxies before finally running into the Enterprise. The ship comes close to being destroyed by a weapon fired by a long-extinct civilisation in a *different galaxy*. A chilling reminder of the size, age and and intrinsic unpredictability of the universe.
@oldworldpatriot8920
@oldworldpatriot8920 2 месяца назад
The Dark Forest Theory in practice
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 2 месяца назад
Hands down one of my favorite episodes. Just so many elements and layers to the whole story, not to mention the brilliant direction and camera work. The machine came from outside the galaxy, based on Spock's backtracking of destroyed solar systems. Interesting information about Robert Ryan, whom I happen to like his acting abilities. Nice video, Pretty cool.
@gallery7596
@gallery7596 2 месяца назад
Yes, Marc Daniels (who would later direct the often mocked episode "Spock's Brain") did an amazing job with this episode. He also did some good work on "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
@donalddube3145
@donalddube3145 2 месяца назад
VENDETTA was an awesome book. it was one of the few times that someone was able to write a story that involved the original series and the next generation without it feeling like they shoehorned one into the other. Picard reacted, much more believably to the reappearance of the BORG then he did in the later episode DECENT.
@anthonybeno1481
@anthonybeno1481 2 месяца назад
I agree 100%
@matthewparker8607
@matthewparker8607 2 месяца назад
The planet-killer was created by an alien race to combat and destroy the Borg. Since the use of conventional weapons were nearly useless against them, the doomsday machine was launched to stop them. Since the planets it destroyed were assimilated by the Borg the planets were useless to the original inhabitants so they were destroyed and their remains were used to fuel it. And the antiproton beam was designed to instantaneously destroy a Borg ship so it couldn't adapt to it. And its hull was designed to withstand Borg weoponry that is why phasers couldn't penetrate it.
@oldworldpatriot8920
@oldworldpatriot8920 2 месяца назад
@@matthewparker8607but in the story,the Borg ship Guinans sister attacked towards the end of the book bounced the energy beam off itself back to the DM cracking its neutrino hull. So I’m doubtful it was made to kill Borg if they can adapt so quickly in one encounter
@matthewparker8607
@matthewparker8607 2 месяца назад
@@oldworldpatriot8920 Yes, I do remember reading that in the finale of Vendetta. I just figured the planet killer was a weapon that the Borg would have a hard time adapting to since its antiproton bean was most likely capable of destroying not only a Borg vessel, but the planets that they have assimilated.
@danh8804
@danh8804 2 месяца назад
That was Peter David's signature in his "Star Trek: The Next Generation" novels, tying in memorable episodes of TOS with an adventure for the TNG crew. "Imzadi" and "Q-Squared" both do this as well, although nothing quite has the suspense and excitement and pace of "Vendetta"
@jaymonroe19581978
@jaymonroe19581978 2 месяца назад
As you notice the doomsday device as a child I noticed it almost looks like a cornucopia around Thanksgiving interesting isn't it
@rynehall9990
@rynehall9990 2 месяца назад
Even aliens from beyond the stars h ate Thanksgiving.
@barryelverson9486
@barryelverson9486 2 месяца назад
The Cornucopia of Death! Thought that as a kid.
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore 2 месяца назад
@jaymonroe19581978 Thank you for your comment, and I hope you enjoyed our video. THAT IS AWESOME. I never thought of it looking like a Thanksgiving Center Piece. And now I've never going to get that thought out of my head. And, its so true, it does does have a cornucopia vibe going. Last Thanksgiving I wanted to make a Thanksgiving video for the channel, but there are some slim picking for movies and TV shows to do an analysis on. You just gave me a great idea for a Thanksgiving video. I'll be sure to give you credit for the idea when I put it together for thanksgiving. Thank you again, and stay tuned, there is more Sci-Fi to come. Have a great day. Mike
@colormedubious4747
@colormedubious4747 2 месяца назад
@@scifiandmore It's a hand-rolled cigar.
@user-co8uy5rb2s
@user-co8uy5rb2s 2 месяца назад
Bugles snacks.
@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello
@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello 2 месяца назад
I used to run Cat 988 log hauler at a Sawmill and when i got behind i would chant the music score to the doomsday machine. DUH duh DUH duh ...ya
@Kitsaplorax
@Kitsaplorax 2 месяца назад
Why didn't the Federation harvest all of that neutronium and take the thing apart for its technologies? Was that a Section 31 operation?
@rynehall9990
@rynehall9990 2 месяца назад
An idea for a spinoff series: people left behind when a machine/god has been defeated, the swarm of researchers that would soon be swarming all over the doomsday ice cream cone,etc..maybe titled In the wake of Star Trek
@Kitsaplorax
@Kitsaplorax 2 месяца назад
@@rynehall9990 That's a horror story or something likely dystopian. Much like the brain scorpions that almost took over the Federation or the subspace aliens, another unsettling mystery. What if there were many different Doomsday bots with different origins and programming?
@billkazen4683
@billkazen4683 2 месяца назад
Windom should have nominated for an Emmy!
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 2 месяца назад
Who’s saying they didn’t harvest it! It’s far more likely they stashed it somewhere secret, like disguising it as an asteroid somewhere in interstellar space. It’s tech was extremely advanced, so it’s unknown if 23rd or even 24th century federation science could breach the neutronium hull, much less reverse engineer the machine. Keeping the doomsday machine and it’s technology a secret would be a priority nearly as high as Omega and certainly higher than the death sentence quarantine of Talos 4.
@coolbear6441
@coolbear6441 2 месяца назад
@@KitsaploraxBrain Scorpions?
@coachkleats234
@coachkleats234 2 месяца назад
Love the illustrations! Death Star getting carved up by the Doomsday Machine at 17:50! 🤣
@greyshadow9498
@greyshadow9498 2 месяца назад
The idea that it was created as a Borg killer was also used in the TNG novel Before Dishonor, written by the same author as Vendetta.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 2 месяца назад
I bought a copy of that story when it came out in paperback. My wife is every bit the Trek fan that I am and we've tried not to throw any of my extensive collection out. I'll bet I still have it squirrelled away in storage somewhere upstairs.
@davesteller6301
@davesteller6301 2 месяца назад
Peter David
@greyshadow9498
@greyshadow9498 2 месяца назад
@@davesteller6301 Yessir!
@alan_clarke
@alan_clarke 2 месяца назад
Vendetta and Q-Squared were great books that took stories from the original series and merged them with the Next Generation crew
@pg1171
@pg1171 2 месяца назад
One of my favorite episodes, along with Balance of Terror, and The Ultimate Computer. The fact that the Constellation was 'broadcasting black death' really creeped me out at the time, and still gives me chills!
@masonbrooksjr.166
@masonbrooksjr.166 Месяц назад
I'm with you on that one,This episode and any similar would continue to be great if it were just left alone once it was over,The residual mystery after-the-fact is what makes this episode and any like it so good.
@komradewirelesscaller6716
@komradewirelesscaller6716 Месяц назад
I have indeed been a lifelong member of the SciFi family you speak of!
@djoneforever
@djoneforever 2 месяца назад
What if it isn't a Doomsday machine, But instead, just a garbage disposal machine ? It just roams freely and cleans the universe, til the Enterprise destroyed it.
@raymondnorth3598
@raymondnorth3598 Месяц назад
Got Junk? From a local TV commercial, lmao.
@extendedepicmusic5017
@extendedepicmusic5017 2 месяца назад
William Windom gave the greatest performance in Trek history. Just imagine an ancient race created the Doomsday weapon to fight Vger
@Mannwhich
@Mannwhich 2 месяца назад
Sounds less dark and mysterious when ya put it that way. It's a thing of horror because it's already too late, once it appears. No one would ever know what hit them. And no one is left to warn others.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 2 месяца назад
Umm, but V'ger's not ancient... It was launched from Earth in the 1970s.
@extendedepicmusic5017
@extendedepicmusic5017 2 месяца назад
@@foogod4237 true but the 1970s could be ancient to kirk
@timdaly5831
@timdaly5831 2 месяца назад
My favourite episode!!
@SchneeflockeMonsoon
@SchneeflockeMonsoon 2 месяца назад
I always liked the theory that the Doomsday Machine was built to fight the Borg, but it was deployed too late and the Borg just let it go on its way, and that the big emptiness in the Delta Quadrant was where it started, and after that it just chased big power signatures thinking they were cubes.
@Jondiceful
@Jondiceful 24 дня назад
That episode was, in my opinion, the best episode of the original series, AND, at the very least, a top contender for the best Star Trek episode of all time. The writing, the pacing, the originality, the acting, and the more philosophical implications all came together with impeccable delivery. It is a per force example of the art of storytelling at its best- an art we sadly seem to have in short supply despite having the technological and budgetary means to make the wildest stories come to life. If ever there was an episode deserving of an award, this would be it. Stepping aside from the impeccable narrative prowess of the story and examining the more scientific elements of the tale, we find almost the exact opposite situation. The entire Doomsday Machine is made of "solid neutronium" which is what neutron stars are made of. An entire neutron star is only about 12 miles across, and a mere teaspoon of it would have the equivalent mass of an entire mountain. The Doomsday Machine is described as miles long, and its hull is clearly thicker than the width of the saucer section of the USS Constellation. A quick off-the-cuff analysis would suggest that it possesses a mass that would dwarf entire planets, and depending on whether the hull is solid neutronium or simply plated in the stuff, it may outmass entire planetary systems if you omit their parent star. There is simply no force in the universe- except possibly a White Hole- that could resist the crushing gravity of the Doomsday Machine to prevent it from collapsing in on itself. Of course this assumes that neutronium is a stable substance outside of the crushing gravity of a neutron star, which is unknown. Something that massive a dense wouldn't need a weapon to destroy planets. It could just fly straight through them, its insane density allowing it to slide through the planet as if it wasn't there at all. Or if could just perform a flyby that destabilizes the planet's orbit resulting in it either falling into its host star or being ejected into deep space. Of course, this isn't even its biggest science problem. That would be its energy. The energy required to overcome the gravity of a planet and cause it to explode is beyond astronomical. The energy needed to do so would absolutely exceed any energy it could harvest from consuming the planetary debris by any means- exception possibly by an equal mass of antimatter. This isn't just a matter of engineering. It's thermodynamics and entropy. If one can bend those laws to perform the impossible, the Doomsday Machine itself would seem quaint. Only the Q Continuum would be more powerful, and even that isn't certain. So ultimately, it makes for an amazing story and I will always count it among my favorites of all time. But the science half of the science fiction is sadly less impressive. Fortunately, that's not a deal-breaker for good storytelling.
@Gary-zq3pz
@Gary-zq3pz 2 месяца назад
This was a nice tribute to Saberhagen's Berzerker. A machine at war with the infestation of Life in the Universe.
@Whalewraith
@Whalewraith 2 месяца назад
Prototype Borg Busting Machine. Peter David covered this in depth in the novel Vendetta. David excelled at character work and wrote several Trek novels at the time.
@darylyost7273
@darylyost7273 2 месяца назад
Bingo! Many trekies can't read!😅
@shiddy.
@shiddy. 2 месяца назад
where did v'ger and the whale probe go after the events in the movies?
@jason9035
@jason9035 2 месяца назад
The V'ger probe used it's energy to merge with a human being . In the movie we see at the end the robot likeness of Ilea and Will Decker, who is related to Commodore Decker of Doomsday machine merge together in an energy field. McCoy at the end says it's been along time since he delivered a baby and Spock says that they had indeed witnessed the birth of a new lifeform. As to the whale probe , it's shown , after it communicates with the humpback whales that Kirk and crew bring back from their time travel adventure , the probe disengages it's "ionizing attack " and presumably went about it's merry way .
@MrAndrewAllen
@MrAndrewAllen 28 дней назад
Years ago, I heard that the Doomsday Machine had been built as a prototype of an anti-Borg weapon. Because the one Kirk destroyed was only a prototype, it lacked armor and secondary weapons. The race that built it decided it was easier to build one more in their fleet of fully functional ones than to retrofit the prototype, so they abandoned the prototype. That is why the prototype survived even after the Borg wiped them out.
@peterpidrak9501
@peterpidrak9501 Месяц назад
The story of those scripts is very important to keep in mind. I remember when somebody pulled an original model of the enterprise out of a storage unit that he had acquired a bunch of people were saying that that belongs to Jean Roddenberry‘s estate, it belongs to the holders of Desi Studios, it belongs to Paramont. I pointed out that a lot of props and costumes sets and what not are are just tossed when a series is complete. That’s quite possible you know random janitor guy who would make sure there was coffee brewed for Gean when he got there said hey you know I always liked that and Jean said well it’s just gonna get thrown out. Go ahead take it.
@tba113
@tba113 2 месяца назад
I get where Spinrad was coming from with his original conception of an alien ship wallpapered with death-ray turrets and such, but what we got was _so_ much cooler. Not only does it look genuinely alien, but there's something about the scarred, pitted, twisted ruin of the outer hull that makes me think this monster is, for all its terrible power, little more than a barely-functional wreck running on the equivalent of "safe mode". This leviathan has some serious history behind it - and we have NO IDEA what that history is. The scene came much later, both IRL and in-universe, but the mystery of where the Doomsday Machine came from and what titanic battles had left it in its nearly-ruined state made me think of Q's comment to Picard in "Q Who?" about the "terrors to freeze your soul" waiting out there in the unexplored stretches of the galaxy. Obviously the Borg he introduced the Enterprise to are enough of a threat to be going on with, but the implications of the Doomsday Machine's existence and battered condition make for some truly frightening speculations.
@slyguythreeonetwonine3172
@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 2 месяца назад
I would like to argue that the DDM was not "wondering through space". I believe after it's initial destruction of it's parent galaxy, it went into a hibernation mode to conserve power. This caused it to be ejected from it's parent galaxy were it could have traveled for innumerable years, decades, centuries, millennia before it was captured by our galaxy. Upon capture by our galaxy, it came online and started it's mission all over again. I think we severely underestimate exactly how old this object is. In fact, our galaxy might not have been the first galaxy this rouge weapon happened upon. We just happened to be the galaxy that could fight back. Perhaps a silver lining in the object being so old. It was inevitable it would be out classed, it was just going to take a small eternity before that happened.
@angelooutlaw386
@angelooutlaw386 Месяц назад
One of my favorite episodes I just subscribed to this channel I love SCI FI.
@phils4634
@phils4634 2 месяца назад
As a fan of Frank Herbert's Dune series, I always regarded the Doomsday Machine as a "sort of Sandworm", adapted for survival in space rather than in a terrestrial environment. The battered appearance could also be accounted for by numerous attempts at destroying it (un successfully) from previous space-faring civilisations. One wonders how it might fare against later Federation weapons: Probably a single transphasic torpedo would completely obliterate it.
@1971khaos
@1971khaos 2 месяца назад
This is my favorite Star Trek TOS episode.
@dakchang63
@dakchang63 2 месяца назад
My favorite episode ,will windom great proformance , your art work is fantastic thank you so much
@SulliMike23
@SulliMike23 2 месяца назад
This is my dad’s favorite episode. He always watches it whenever he gets a chance.
@area5097
@area5097 2 месяца назад
FASA had a module for their Star Trek Role-playing Game called A Doomsday Like Any Other. The premise was a distress call from a free trader freighter. The distress was it was being chased by a Planet Killer in the edge of the Romulan Neutral Zone. Seems they had inadvertently activated it by picking up the Killer's key. So the task is to stop, capture, or destroy it. Hampered by the hijinks and hilarity of the arrival of a Romulan task force.
@stephenlayland2889
@stephenlayland2889 2 месяца назад
It once was taught that they were only four basic conflicts in literature, i.e. man against man, against nature, fate or self. I argue that "The Doomsday Machine" adds a fifth fundamental, man against legacy. Whether you argue pollution, resource depletion, the consequences of nuclear technology or the damage done by mass communication, we are the worst enemy we have ever faced.
@DJParticle
@DJParticle 2 месяца назад
Surprised you didn't mention Star Trek Online's theory... an ancient Iconian weapon. :)
@jackglabere6653
@jackglabere6653 2 месяца назад
I like the theory that Spock put forth stating that the machine's path seems to have come from out of our galaxy.
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545
@wirebrushofenlightenment1545 2 месяца назад
Shatner sporting a particularly good hairpiece in this one.
@andywindes4968
@andywindes4968 2 месяца назад
No matter what Roddenberry told Spinrad, the model of the Doomday machine was NOT a aviation sock dipped in concrete. It was a wire armature rapped in the Jeffries favorite construction material--Reyolds Aluminum foil. The result was a light, easy to work with model that was also very fragile. That's why it disappeared immediately after it was used.
@zsigzsag
@zsigzsag 2 месяца назад
I liked the Star Trek episode, "The Changeling". A probe, Nomad, damaged and reconstructed by another advanced race became a threat to all life when it's programming was inadvertently changed. Not visually monstrous, just a simple machine but with monstrous power but the story line and dialogue of that episode was great! Vic Perrin was the voice of Nomad. He also appeared in some of the other episodes and was the "Control Voice" of "Outer Limits" TOS. New subscriber enjoyed the video!
@JoseMolina-ij3xx
@JoseMolina-ij3xx Месяц назад
I can just imagine the Borg's reaction to the Doomsday's Machine, considering it is a marvel of technology to be assimilated.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 2 месяца назад
I seem to recall one of the books explained the reason the thing looks like it does is because it has been in space for so long. Initially it was kitted out like a much more conventional ship with turrets and emplacements on its exterior. However the passage of however many millions of years and contacts with enemies had destroyed most of the superstructure, only leaving the underlying impenetrable armour and its primary weapon--the planet killer. I suspect it was closely based on Saberhagen's 'Berserker' stories, as was Mass Effect for that matter.
@gloriabeckley7464
@gloriabeckley7464 2 месяца назад
Theory: an advance society built the machine as an asteroid and meteor defensive system than could also be use to clear space debris. It was successful but something happen to it the society and over time the programming was corrupted, now it identifies everything in it path as a target.
@justinfiorenzio7112
@justinfiorenzio7112 2 месяца назад
Would love too see a back story about the Doomsday machine, in an episode of Star Trek
@qbertq1
@qbertq1 2 месяца назад
My three favorite ST:TOS episodes are this one, "Obsession," and "The Enterprise Incident."
@spaceflight1019
@spaceflight1019 2 месяца назад
I covered this in a fanfiction... A very, very long time ago, the Engineers and the Predators were at war. Knowing that they were not going to win, the Engineers built the Doomsday Machine and when they were externinated, they turned it loose on the Predator species via a "dead hand" device. This explains why neither species is seen or mentioned in the Alien universe. Since the Federation is an outgrowth of the Alien universe, it was just a matter of time before the DM began affecting the populated worlds.
@stevenewman1393
@stevenewman1393 Месяц назад
🖖😎👍The Doomsday Machine has always been one of my all time favorite Startrek episodes along with about 20 other episodes as well and I myself own all 3 seasons of TOS as well as the animated series on DVD, Any ways a job very nicely greatly well done and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the Doomsday Machine indeed Sir!👌.
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore Месяц назад
@stevenewman1393 Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate your comment. And, I am glad you enjoyed our video. I remember watching TOS every Saturday and Sunday afternoon when it was in syndication with my dad in the early 70's on this old, half held together black and white television. And I was hooked. And I have been hooked ever since. People don't always give TAS the credit it really deserves in my opinion. But, maybe because I was so young when it originally came out that it is just that more interesting to me. And like yourself, this episode is in my top 20 as well. My top 2 are this episode and Balance of Terror, and they are interchangeable. Whichever one I have on at the moment is my favorite, lol. Thank you again for your comment, again, it is greatly appreciated. And stay tuned, there is more Sci-Fi to come. Have a great day. Mike
@stevenewman1393
@stevenewman1393 Месяц назад
@scifiandmore Yes the Balance of Terror is a very great one indeed and if you want to watch an old WW2 that resembles this very well you need to watch The Enemy Below with Mitchum & Jurgens !👌.
@JohnSmith-el6lk
@JohnSmith-el6lk 20 дней назад
This was an excellent video. The pictures and artwork shown were impressive. My number one OST has always been "The Corbomite Maneuver."The Doomsday Machine" is in my top five.
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore 16 дней назад
@JohnSmith-el6lk Thank you for your comment, it is greatly appreciated. I really enjoyed The Corbomite Maneuver as well. My favorite(s) is Balance of Terror and Space Seed. Although I will say, the new Star Trek is taking some liberties with both of these episodes, especially Space Seed's main character Khan. I'm not real happy with the direction they are taking the character. I still watch new Trek, and I like a lot of it. But let's not try to change what has already been established. Again, thank you for your comment, and stay tuned, there is more Sci-Fi to come. Have a great day. Mike
@robertaguilar2124
@robertaguilar2124 26 дней назад
I remember reading ST TNG Vendetta! The Doomsday machine was built to fight the Borg to defend the Preservers just outside of our galaxy, but was finished & launched too late to save their society!
@TimothySchulting
@TimothySchulting 2 месяца назад
It was me. I built it in my garage but someone stole it and it got loose. Sorry about that.
@scifiandmore
@scifiandmore 2 месяца назад
@TimothySchulting That's AWESOME and hilarious. Great comment. I hope you liked our video, and stay tuned, there is more Sci-Fi to come. Have a great day. Mike
@dennisbubemyre1552
@dennisbubemyre1552 2 месяца назад
Dude, that's one heck of a garage
@Sraddhabandhu
@Sraddhabandhu 2 месяца назад
I hope you have good insurance.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 2 месяца назад
I think there's a very simple explanation. The Doomsday Machine was a planet harvesting machine used by the species that built the Dyson Sphere, but they "forgot" to shut it off when they went extinct. That's why it doesn't have warp drive -- it's industrial equipment and was never intended for interstellar operations.
@steadholderharrington9035
@steadholderharrington9035 2 месяца назад
Rather, it was an incomplete version of the true Doomsday machine that was set loose early, when its creators were looking at the losing end of a war with the Borg. They just didn't have the time to outfit it with warp drives is all!
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 2 месяца назад
@@steadholderharrington9035 Yes, I read the non canon book Star Trek: Federation, too. I still have it, in fact.
@barriewright2857
@barriewright2857 20 дней назад
This is worthy of a new startrek series or a movie just to find out who made the doomsday machine, and find out if they are still around or what's happened to them.
@MrMusicbyMartin
@MrMusicbyMartin 2 месяца назад
I remember watching this around the age of 6 or 7 (which would have made it 73 or 74) and being terrified by the shots of the machine’s giant, gaping, orange maw looming upon the Enterprise, and being slightly disturbed by the sense of impending doom and hopelessness.
@dwaynetaylor2463
@dwaynetaylor2463 2 месяца назад
Best episode.
@securityrobot
@securityrobot 2 месяца назад
Built by the Acme Doomsday Company, of course.
@raymondnorth3598
@raymondnorth3598 Месяц назад
Yep, had to be ACME.
@impacking
@impacking Месяц назад
Did it accidentally get activated during delivery to Wile E. Coyote?
@rconger24
@rconger24 Месяц назад
The design of the smooth surface with the gaping maw captured the vibe of; *_a man-eating shark_* . *Perfect!*
@thomasnaas2813
@thomasnaas2813 2 месяца назад
They were French pastry chefs, that's why the doomsday machine look like a cosmic cream horn.
@mickmerr
@mickmerr 2 месяца назад
It always surprises me that in all the spin-off shows a sequel was never done to officially answer this question. Maybe a rights issue?
@don63
@don63 2 месяца назад
Definitely a favorite.
@dantupper1784
@dantupper1784 Месяц назад
Intergalactic Death Burrito is what we called it as kids in the '70's. The 'Doomsday Machine' looked utterly different from all the other spacecraft used on Star Trek. If they had the budget and additional seasons more episodes involving the 'Doomsday Machine' would have been interesting. Or some 'Official Canon' books or graphic novels to fill in the backstory on it's origin.
@HepTunes
@HepTunes Месяц назад
The 1991 Star Trek novel Vendetta is a great sequel pitting an improved Planet Killer against the Borg! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendetta_(Star_Trek)
@unicorn-qh9tj
@unicorn-qh9tj 2 месяца назад
For me one of the best episodes of TOS!
@fgeiger41
@fgeiger41 2 месяца назад
My all time favorite episode! Terrified me as a child. I've been kind blown they never followed up with a movie to fulfill the storyline.
@CaseAgainstFaith1
@CaseAgainstFaith1 2 месяца назад
It doesn't really need any more.
@scottstrang1583
@scottstrang1583 2 месяца назад
Great episode. I never understood why they didn't throw an antimatter torpedo into the core.
@STho205
@STho205 2 месяца назад
Same reason Hamlet took 5 long acts, a sea voyage, a fake play and a lover suicide... to kill his uncle.
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