Chuck dont give a damn about what people say or think. There was a documentary he did about America's problems and he made a speech in Baltimore and the venue he spoke at nearly turned into a riot.
@Ulysses432 There was a forum in Baltimore talking about race and crime and Charles made some disparaging statements to the crowd. One of the ladies who lost a son to the police confronted Charles about the cops and the rest the crowd just started going off on him. Charles sat calm but that crowd got heated.
@Red HawK13 Barkley had to be double teamed his whole career, sometimes it took 2 seven footers to slow him down a bit. You are probably young and you don't know what you talking about
Chuck got the ball more because he would rebound it most of the time! And when people were passing him the ball it's because they knew he'd get in the basket.
If Charles had better teammates he would have at least 2 championships Edit: not saying his teammates were bad but I’m talking about like having a second superstar
Olajuwon and Duncan are the 2 players closest to winning a championship by themselves, Duncan's win shares in 03 are still the best in playoffs history.
he has barkley on all the time. he respects barkley. i actually liked the line of questioning. he crammed a lot of interesting questions into five minutes. bird. lebron. magic. malone. duncan. isaiah. i laughed at barkley's expression when he asked if curry was better than isaiah. haha.
This younger generation doesn’t realize what a beast Charles was in Philly. Today he’s this funny self deprecating guy on TV, but back in the day he was a force of nature.
@@Abhishekkumar-st1xr charles was going to say that it’s wrong to say who’s better before Being interrupted...cause obviously people usually compare different positions, eras, styles and needed skills.It’s a team game and maybe in a team you need barkley in another team you need malone. He was just saying hes better than bird in rebounding and defending...i mean what a shitty question is ‘are u better than magic’?? Better at what? You are comparing strawberries to pineapples. It’s like asking buffon if hes better than ronaldo...They both play soccer, but that would be a stupid question
I love Barkley. As a player, as an entertainer, as a commentator and I think he is a genuine dude! And you need to think you're the best to be a great. But he is out of this world if he thinks he was better than Bird.
@Layth Adrian Bird's PASSING is what puts Bird on another level. That's a whole lotta easy baskets for Bird's team, that Barkley's team isn't going to get. Also Bird is a legit 6'9" with LONG arms, which is WAY taller than Barkley at 6'4 1/2"
He was asked if he was better than bird and instead of saying no, because he obviously wasn't, he said Larry did some things better and he did some things better. If he was being honest he should have said no and it's not even close.
I think he did some things better than Malone like throw behind the back passes and hit 3's. I think he may have even had a better peak, but career wise it has to be Malone. He put up great numbers for a very long time. I know Barkley has said before that he had Stockton which made him a better scorer, but still. He was a better scorer, he averaged 31 ppg one year, and had 2 years of 29 ppg, and many years of 27 plus per game. So career wise and scoring wise Malone was better. Barkley better peak, better rebounder, better passer, and better outside shooter.
This is true but its hard to quantify why. Malone was always the much better defender - Malone actually is a great defender. Charles can be decent when he actually gives a shit. Maybe its because Charles could do more things with the ball in his hands. Triple threat option whereas Malone had the pick and pop, post up and pick and roll.
@@josephdelledonne2098 When you are playing with John Stocken the best pass first point guard of all time your stats (scoring in particular) going to go up.
Joseph Delledonne this is a pretty good summation. Barkley had more a better peak and more versatile all around skills, including ball handling, passing, better career rebounding numbers and long distance shots but Malone had a more consistently great career in his individual numbers across an incredibly long run of greatness. However if it’s 1988 to 92 Barkley that’s an unstoppable beast right there who never had a top 3 point guard of all time to get him the ball in all the best spots like Malone did. Malone’s career scoring average would probably be 3 points lower with only a decent/good point guard to work with.
@@amostlyreasonableguy I think he would score the same but his FG% would not be as high. Barkley scored 3 points lesser than Malone but his FG% was Shaq-like if you take away 3-point attempts he still would average around 22-23 ppg but at around 58% FG on 4-6 lesser field goal attempts per game than Malone. Barkley was the better player he just did not last as long because he did not take care of his body the way Malone did. Malone was a work horse and that was because he wasn´t as skilled or talented as Barkley was. He was more durable. Barkley was the better player as was MJ if you compare him to Lebron his longevity is lesser but as far as being a better more dominant player Jordan was better than Lebron as was Barkley better than Malone.
LycanVonWolf During his championship runs, sure. But when he was with the wizards and before Scottie Pippen got there, his teams weren’t good enough to award him the mvp.
Playing for a trashy team = inflated numbers. You know what is a inflated number for a guy like Hakeem? 2 goddamn quadruple doubles, lol Jordan had elite help, still, he averaged some crazy numbers. So, all the arguments in favor of Barkley are related with fake ass stats. He is not on the same level of Jordan and Hakeem, which is not a shame.
Both Barkley and Bird is something. Barkley is the highest flying fatt ass I have ever seen in my life. Bird... His skill is I'd say the best. Considering he can't run, can't jump, must be his unsurpassed skill that brought him to the level of 2-5 best player ever. And yeah... Bird is better than Barkley.
Idk about for real. MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Wilt, Oscar, Bron, Shaq, Kobe, Russ, Duncan, Dream are no brainers for me. The last three spots are very much up for debate.
Brandon Myers agree, I would also put Jerry West in that list. Idk if Barkley makes the top 15 but he’s definitely top 20 and anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know basketball
I grew up a massive Barkley fan, but Larry Bird was a better player than Chuck. Really, it's like comparing apples to oranges, though. Two completely different styles: but both were outstanding.
1990758 he’s a better shooter, better offensive player, better passer, better clutch player, and rebounding is pretty much the same. Barkley gets one more rebound a game. Defensively about the same. How’s Bird, not better?
It isn't indeed. What you achieve as a team doesn't mean anything in measuring someones individual skills. Or do you want to say that a javale mcgee is better than charles barkley or allen iverson for example? Or to compare to someone in todays game russel westbrook. No, javale mcgee is not better than any of them, but he has a ring... If one team has 3 elite players it will pretty much win every serie of 7 against a team with 1 star even if that one guy is better than all 3 of the other team. Especially in a sport where in a lot of times you don't decide where you get to play and who your teammates will be. So to win a championship you can't rely on your own skills. You need more than one guy with skills. But to be the best "all" you have to do is be better skilled than the rest.
Yeah I agree, I think people base that he was better or as good, based on the dream team era. Bird never played another NBA game after that. If the Dream Team would have been in 88 they woulda had a prime M.J. Bird and Magic
Which is weird right coz Chuck said, without bating an eyelash, that Magic is better than him. Bird and Magic are essentially equals. I agree that Bird is WAY better than Chuck.
why do you think they are equals? Because their teams went back n forth? Team game. Bird was better than magic as an individual player.Charles was right there w both of them. He just wasn't on the great teams to be on prime time and make deep playoff pushes. Had charles teammates made a damn shot down the stretch in the 93 finals, and they were wide the fuck open off of chucks double teams in the post, phx wins that series, and now charles is the only 1 to beat jordan and now he's thought of just behind jordan, barely. You see how the story can change w just a couple shots going down for chucks bad, choking teammates (majerle and kj). @@JanRey526
Nope a power forward who could and would play the center positions at time but he mostly played the pf position. In his rookie year he played sf once with Perdue and Robinson in the lineup.
Duncan is a PF, Spurs played two bigs and most of the time Duncan was the PF, yes he played center quite a bit but the majority of his mins he played PF. Here's a list of centers that played with Duncan: Robinson: 6 seasons with Duncan and started every single game as a C Nesterović: 3 seasons with Duncan, 230 games as a center. Oberto: 4 seasons with Duncan, started over 100 games Blair: 4 seasons with Duncan, started 140+ games Splitter: 300+ games, 150 starts And there are more centers like McDyess, Nazr Mohammed, Francisco Elson etc, who played with him for a shorter period of time.
@NonyaBusiness! Except Zion is way more athletic and can play the perimeter. Not saying hes better cus its WAY TOO early for that but he has potential to be much better imo.
More like Charles would foul out of every game in the nba today And that’s a shot at the Nba not Charles. My high school basketball team got fouled harder every game than they do in the Nba now lol
no player from the 90s would break the game today, except maybe MJ but im not even sure MJ is a top 2 player in this era. Gotta give respect to how good the league has gotten.
Man, the way he straight up says who is better than him makes all the more likable! Great sense of awareness, honesty, respect, chilness and confidence.
I am 50 years old. I played high school basketball in the 80's and watched all the NBA games. My 2 favorite players were Bird and Barkley. They were both great in different aspects of the game. But there is no doubt in my mind that Bird dominated that era. No one and I mean no one was better than him in his peak. There was no one in the NBA that had his ability to change or control the flow of the game. He would make the big play when needed or get the steal or set up the perfect pass. You can look at stats but that does not tell the whole story. You had to have watched entire games and not cherry pick stats. I don't think we will ever see someone with his presence and intelligence on court.
Completely agree. I'm not sure how he can think he is better than Bird but then have to think about it when it comes to names like Malone, Duncan and Isaiah. Barkley is truly underselling Bird's greatness in this video even if he doesn't mean to. He should look at that Celtics team before Bird arrived. Bird completely turned that team around his rookie year and didn't have the benefit of the best player in the league like Kareem on his team. Led a Celtics team(in only his 2nd year) in 81 down 3-1 against a great Sixers team(outplaying Dr. J in the process) to win the series and ultimately his 1st NBA championship.The Lakers in 84 had the better team than the Celtics and once again Bird led the Celtics to an upset over the Lakers team. Bird was less athletic against most of the guys he played against but still found ways to outrebound them and outperform them. Bird is seriously one of the greatest minds and leaders that I have ever seen on the basketball court and I didn't even grow up in that era. I've just gone back and watch the games like you said and this guy is really the real deal. Although I'd say Magic was probably better at controlling the flow and tempo of a game than Bird was.
Bird was a basketball god. Ok, maybe not god, but he was so clearly the alpha player on the court. And it's ridiculous for Charles to consider being better than Bird, while he immediately concedes no and no to Lebron and Magic. Wow, no respect to Bird.
Blueblur 22 birds rookie highlights were truly a sight to behold. He performed like a 10 year veteran in the league in his opening season. He was most definitely worth the wait for the Boston faithful after he was drafted and decided to play his last collegiate season for Indiana state. Forever and always Bird will be in the argument as one of the greatest players of all time.
Barkley was just incredible, that guy just was absurdly dominant. To hear him be so candid in where he stands against other greats is amazing to hear. If Barkley played today, he would be one of the top-3 players in the league without a doubt.
"one on one i'll take barkley"...well if you like losing, sure go ahead....Bird was nasty AF on isolation plays...cmon now...and looking back, Bird was underrated as a defender...remember he had 3 All defensive team selections, Barkley had 0...
Wise Ash You do realize Bird was an above average blocker and post defender, right? Bird averages the same amount of blocks as Barkley and Lebron....also Bird was pretty strong, don't get fooled by his frame, like KG who had a small frame but could hold his own against bigger buffer bigs...
Bird had a significant back injury after 1987. Only his decline allowed the Pistons to win. Before Bird's (and later McHale's) injury, Pistons couldn't get past the Celtics in the playoffs.
@@paulsholar9356 Dont forgot the death of Bias. If he really was 75% of the hype he was made out to be, the Pistons really would have had to dig deep to knock off the Celtics during their 2 titles.
I’ve always felt that Isaiah Thomas was under appreciated as one of the greats. He won 2 titles in an era competing against the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls dynasties. His leadership and competitiveness rivaled Bird, Magic and Jordan. If only Isaiah had about 4 more inches in height...
As a player though Isiah really was a tweener in the sense that it was clear he wasnt as good as Magic, Bird or Jordan (even though he was knocking off Jordan's teams) but was better than Price, Porter, Stockton and KJ.
Esther Lee this is definitely false , he was clearly just as skilled as Magic Bird and at that time he was better skill wise than Jordan if only he was 3-4 inches taller this wouldn’t even be an argument now
@@miorionomichi I would agree. You ask these other guys, they would definitely say that they were afraid of him as a player first. Then of course, they were afraid of his team with his leadership. Pistons lost 1988 finals by the narrowest margin. If the pistons had won that series, we will definitely be speaking about the big 4 rather than 3. That foul call on Laimbeer was wickedly unfair.
@@someshsaharan5813 I agree. Steph is a very smooth shooter and probably #1 in this category. And he is teaming with Thompson. Isiah during his times had to battle with the stalwarts MJ, Magic, and a few other important names like Wilkins, and many other upcoming stars. He had to play within a system and he had to run his team. Had he won the 1988 championship, he would have been placed far higher. These are players of different times. As I said I would totally agree that Steph is a better player. But Isiah is a better "Star". I love both of these players.
I'm with Charles on "Zeke" Thomas. He is my favorite point guard of all time. Capable of averaging 30+ points but sacrificed his scoring for play making, elevated his supporting cast, utilized the talent around him and won 2 titles back to back (should've been 3) because of it.
thsu8 People confuse Steph's talent with his ability to lead a team. Steph's a great talent, but he's no leader. He's proven that twice in the Finals now. Heck, Steph's not even the leader of his team _now_, since KD came along. Steph fares better when he's got a great cast of teammates. As I put it, Steph is really more of a shooting guard, placed at point guard due to his size. Similar's true about Russell Westbrook, though, one can argue that he's leading his team better than Steph has his this season. Isiah Thomas was the epitome of a leader. He was a true point guard. He had talent, but he had better leadership. I like high-scoring PGs, but I think many today have gotten a bit off-track about what a point guard actually does. Kids today get too lost in scoring, and esp. in today's era, where NBA literally favors offense in its rules. If Isiah played in today's era, he'd probably _be_ someone like a Steph Curry, just being all offense and with orchestrating the team taking the back seat. But back in Zeke's day, you HAD to be more specialized as a player, because defense was stronger. As Testos Tyrone said, Zeke elevated his teammates, and all during a harder-hitting, defense-heavier era. Sometimes, you sacrifice your scoring, for the sake of play-making and elevating team unity and flow. Isiah is quite underrated as a great, in this regard, because he wasn't the most dominant scorer, game after game--even though he could score in flashy ways.
SuperGamer87 Zeke actually began his career as a shoot 1st point guard; extremely reluctant to pass. His game evolved into what he became. I've never seen a player capable of putting up 30+ per game, straddle the line between scoring and facilitating more perfectly than Zeke and Magic. Until now... (LeBron and Harden)
Charles admitting Duncan's superiority (in what's essentially fundamentals) is impressive to me in his opinon/understanding of effectiveness/possession.
Can we make up our mind how tall Barkley was/is?There's a clip on u tube of Barkley playing D Wade 1on1.He is several inches bigger than D Wade.There are clips of Barkley and MJ standing nose to nose.They are the same height.So how tall is Sir Charles actually?
@@ralphgreenwood2469 6'5" I think, maybe an inch or so taller in his prime. He just makes average sized people look so small when you see them together
Greatest poer forward at his height with the most heart, willpower, on top on being built like a Mack Truck! Truly miss his style of play. he banged on everybody!!!
The great Charles Barkley has every NBA attribute except for the NBA championship he's been NBA MVP regular season he's been an All-Star more than 10 times he's been NBA all-defense on more than one occasion how many accomplishments does a man need to be considered one of the all-time greats he is one of the all-time great players to ever play in the NBA in his prime he dominated the NBA and players feared him because of how good his game was you have a lot of great players who played in the NBA that didn't win a ring and Charles Barkley was one of them but his greatness will never be forgotten because he's one of the 50 greatest players of all time and no one can ever take that away from him that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it 🤔🤔🤔
Let's take a moment to appreciate that at his peak, Barkley was a nasty dude. He was a monster, and he's probably spot on about that Magic MVP comment. His name deserves to be in the same bracket as a guy like Malone (although overall I give Malone a slight edge because he was better defensively) and I certainly rate him a good deal above IT who I think is overrated rather than underrated personally. You could argue he was close to Bird at his peak as he clearly has, but personally I'd take Bird every time even putting aside comparative team success. He was just a genius and did a lot of things better than Chuck.
there's a reason Lebron puts Larry Bird in his Mount Rushmore+1 of favorite players (the others being MJ, Dr. J, Oscar, and Magic)...and not Barkley...Bird was just different...way different..he nasty AF...he was Kobe before there was Kobe...Barkley was just an intense player...but couldn't win in big moments...didn't exert enough effort to really win..
Apart from the IT part I agree to you, because Zeke is way underrated, the main reason for it is probably because he wasn't on the Dream-Team. I am not sure though, maybe also because the Pistons somehow get lost along the Lakers, Celtics and Bulls of that era but you see they repeated during that time which is almost unheard of if you think how good those teams actually were back then (although the Bulls dynasty came a little later but I suppose you get the point).
Larry is on par with the elite players ever, like Magic, Kareem, MJ, Duncan, Lebron, etc. Guys like that are on a different level. Barkley is on the level just below, with guys like Malone, Nowitzki, Ewing. There's no shame in that, he just isn't on Bird's level.
The only difference between those two levels are the teammates that you get to play with. Magic, Kareem, Bird, Jordan all had HOF teammate(s) during their title runs. Barkley had a solid team in Phoenix but he wasn't the same player at that point in his career. His best years were in Philly and he was a beast
Alec Wooster, You're kidding right? Dirk had plenty of help. Dirks team had 5-6 guys who were solid contributors (terry, Peja etc) and 3 guys on the team playing at an all star level (dirk, kidd, Chandler). That is how they won the title. Plus Dirk missed the would-be game tying shot in game 3 and Terry + Kidd deserves credit for the game 6 win. Dirk had a very poor shooting night in game 6. So I disagree that Dirk "single handedly" won the title. The closest anyone came to single handedly winning a title was Hakeem in 1994. No all star teammates, no HOF teammates. Hakeem, thorpe and a bunch of guys from the CBA.
More Cowbell what a dumb statement. Just because they were past all stars doesn't mean they were still close or at that level. Peja, Kidd, and Marion were solid but were also way past their primes. Butler was injured so I don't know why you even included him. Chandler and Terry were the main guys that really helped out Dirk and even then Dirk did most of the work. The fact is, Dirk won a title without any all star teammates and Barkley didn't.
barkley super underrated ...he's really 6'4 1/2... and was a monster on the boards and mid range jumper was fierce!! he played no def tho haha... but he was awesome
Barkley on point about Isaiah Thomas. Zeke was an incredible player super underrated. People hold the Bad Boy Pistons against his greatness. The RU-vid miracle shows Pistons from 82-86, Isaiah was running and gunning and couldn't be stopped. If Isaiah wanted to be Iverson he could've scored at will and been efficient. If he wanted to just get assists like Stockton he could've. From 87 on he combined scoring and assists and still is the only small guard to lead a team to a chsmpionship. 3rd best pg ever. Definitely most underrated superstar ever. 1. Magic 2. Oscar 3. Isaiah Thomas
I’d put Isiah ahead of Oscar just based on the fact that Oscar did play against inferior competition. Hard to evaluate those guys from the 60s and early 70s but Isiah is the greatest little guard ever. Nobody is ahead of him. CP3 Iverson and Curry are not better than him. Curry especially. Curry is the best out of those 3 but he’s not even close to the point guard that Isiah was. Just remember ‘16 finals the man had more turnovers than assists, and blew a 3-1 lead. Better shooter than Isiah true but Isiah was unstoppable in setting up his teammates and could take over when needed too and was actually a super clutch player. Curry’s clutchness is not even close. Watch the tape of Isiah 82-86 before they changed their style from run and gun (when Isiah had over 1000 assists in a season,) to a defensive juggernaut. The guy was incredible.
@@keganselby119 Steph has the skillset to be the best PG ever. Something about him though is missing in the intangibles department. He doesnt have the "dog" like Magic and Isiah did. That must win at all costs mentality - you know it when you see it and you also know who has it and who doesnt. Steph doesnt
I appreciate Barkley’s modesty in reference to Duncan. But in a dog fight I’d take Barkley. He transcended the PF position. At 6’5, he lead the league in rebounding. Off the dribble, what PF could guard him? Name a PF that led a break off the defensive rebound? Name a PF that effectively shot the 3 before him.. Barkley is the best PF that played the game.. just my opinion..
I never got a chance to watch Barkley in his early years. I remember him playing in like "93. I watched a lot of great players back then Malone, Hakeem, Kemp, Oakley, Ewing etc. Mostly remember him with the rockets. He was still a monster. Strong af and could move for his size. I think its a toss up between him and Malone. Malone was strong af too. Dirty too. As for Duncan I watched him play his whole career so that's why I say he's the best power forward I ever seen play. Barkley was more physical than Duncan. I'm sure he would get Duncan in some foul trouble but they're 11 years apart in the nba. A seasoned Barkley would probably have his way some what but I don't know about a seasoned Tim Duncan in his 3 or 4th year. He had already won the championship in his 2nd year. Duncan isn't known for being super physical but I seen him outdue the best power forward and centers in the league. I think the advantage Duncan would have over Barkley is his moves and the pump fakes. That's where I think Barkley would get in foul trouble. It's a nice debate. I love Charles Barkley too. I just happen to be a die hard Spurs fan. 💯
1q1q1q981 he’s usually like this, I’ve never seen him be delusional about who’s better than him unless he’s joking, even then he’s one of the greatest ball players of all time if he says he’s better than somebody chances are he’s right
Isiah is the #3 PG behind Magic and the big O. He easily could've won scoring titles but sacrificed that to facilitate. He made his entire team better, an approach that got him 2 rings.
Barkley was probably one of the top 5 players in the league in his prime. He's top 25-30 all-time. A lot of people today don't know how dominant Charles was.
a rolling barrell of gun powder..he humbles out here but he would have 5 coast to coast dunks avg around 30 ppg 15 plus boards and 5 to 7 assists per game..that would make him better than everyone in todays league..on top of all this he would crush anyone who is not ready for a homeric battle in the playoffs and able for a battle of this magnitude..charles was never drove out of his game by shaq hakeem robinson lambeer oakley rodman kemp malone ewing the lakers the celtics the bulls the rockets the knicks..salute sir charles you entertained us like very few players ever did..
I pretty much agree with all this assessments. He's a pretty honest and straightforward guy. And he as a fantastic player! Check RU-vid to verify. Respect!
RU-vid highlights don't tell the full story. For example, Barkley is the worst 3pt shooter ever (not even joking). But you will never see him bricking 3s in a youtube video.
Being the "best" on Dream Team I needs to be put in perspective with regard to who they were all playing against and how easy that whole team had it. The great players felt no pressure or urgency. Charles just went after it harder. It's like if you're a grown men playing against little kids, most of you gonna take it easy... then there might be that one douche on your team who's going at it too hard and starts trying to show up everybody.
@@davec3651 Barkley was Quoted as saying, ''if I just do my thing, Im going to make them look good, they are going to make me look good, if you are a great player the game is so easy, and the better players you play you play with, the game is even more easy. He just did his thing, that`s how he played ALL THE TIME. He did not just go at it harder. And given the importance of the team and what they were trying to do, having no urgency was not an option.This kind attitude is rare today, that is why I can`t get into the NBA now.
When I think of shooting Bird immediately comes to mind. Passing = Magic, Dominance = Shaq, Rebounds = Barkley followed closely by Rodman. This literally makes them icons since they represent different aspects of the game...just like Jordan for overall Greatness.
Rebounds should be Rodman. Rodman was pulling down 17-18 a game against the best era of big men as a scrawny, undersized PF. I remember from the late 80’s to 90’s, Rodman was guaranteed to lead the league in rebounds every year….and he did it night in/night out against Shaq/Robinson/Olajuwon/Coleman/Kemp/Malone/Barkley/Oakley/Grant/Ewing etc.
Hate to break this to you, but how many finals has the Mailman carried his teams to and how many has Sir Charles carried his teams to? How many career points does the Mailman have compared to Sir Charles? Malone is far better than Sir Charles. I would say that Chuck is better than Kevin Garnett, Dennis Rodman & Kevin McHale though
Hugh Jass I’d agree that he’s better than Dennis Rodman and Kevin McHale and not as good as Malone (although playoff success isn’t the reason why), but I think Kevin Garnett is also better than Chuck because Chuck doesn’t have anywhere near the Defensive accolades that Garnett has, they both have an MVP, and they both posted similar career averages (Chuck was a slightly better overall rebounder and passer and scorer but only marginally), except points but Garnett also played like 4 - 5 seasons longer than Charles.
@@jayhay8 Dennis actually had the ability to score but he was ahead of his time. He looked at it from a team perspective. He wanted to win titles. He didn't want to lose. Charles makes a point about studio gangsters. Look at Adrian Dantley and look at Mark Aguirre. Mark was the better player 5x but AD is in the Hall. It's a travesty that Mark isn't in the Hall. The best Point ever is John. Look at his stats vs Chris Paul. Paul and today's players are to injury pussys. John didn't have that 3rd HOF guy. Magic had a HOF lineup. John didn't need as much. Charles vs Karl. I go with Karl, longevity!!! Mike vs LeBron, Mike in a 💓 why, Mike didn't recruit guys to be on his team or switch teams to have players on his team. Back then you could foul a guy before it became a intentional and then the NBA went rogue on Dennis. Dennis fought the NBA and won. When Dennis is in the conversation with Wilt and Bill, it's hard to make a valid point on those guys. He came from an NAIA school. So did Pippen. You don't see that drive from players these days. Let alone a 2nd round pick. A second round pick there's a few. But not many. Duncan most fundamental player but logically he was a center. Dirk I can see as a SF cause of his ball handling. Dennis made the game harder for any and everyone he faced and he shutout Shaq!!! Nobody could do that. Wennington couldn't do that and Bill was a 7 footer. Dennis at 6 feet 6 made it harder for everyone except Larry. And has admitted it. When you can shut out Shaq your coach in San Antonio wouldn't think logically instead put Robinson on Shaq and got equally dominated between the other. Instead that shows how important Dennis was to the game
Hard to compare players when the game is so different. What worked then might not work well now and the reverse is true. That said, Bird and Jordan would be great then and now. Perhaps even better now.
I love Chuck's honesty. He's right, the 92 MVP was more because of the team accomplishment even though it was an incredible season, his seasons in the 80s were even better than that MVP year. But at least he got one. Wish he got a ring with my Rockets even though he was well past his prime by time he got here
He's definitely better than Dirk. Dirk was a hell of a scorer and had more longevity throughout his career, but Barkley was much more dominant and efficient as a scorer and rebounder. Barkley also was a better defender than him. Duncan is better than Barkley, due to his size, defense, and intangibles, but Barkley wasn't far behind him. Plus I would argue that Duncan was a Center; he was only a power forward when the admiral was around those first couple of years in his career.
Philadelphia Barkley had THE highest shooting efficiency of ALL TIME: 64.4% TS% on 24.7 PPG, with 12.1 Rebounds. Not absurd to say he had the best individual stats of all time during a long period (7 seasons, excluding rookie year). He simply wasn't lucky to play with elite teammates for basically all his prime, plus he was unlucky to play against some of THE best teams of ALL TIME: he lost to the 85' Celtics, 90', 91' and 93' Bulls, and 94' and 95' Rockets. In the 2 Rockets' series he lost in 7 games, and against the Celtics and the 93' Bulls he lost in 6 games, some of them very close. He almost BEAT PRIME BIRD WITH MCHALE, JORDAN WITH PIPPEN, AND OLAJUWON WITH DREXLER BY HIMSELF! Legendary. It was simply unfair for him to deal with such competition through out the early 90s (his prime) without strong teammates. Imagine being at your prime at the same time as Michael Jordan with Scottie Pippen and Hakeem Olajuwon with Clyde Drexler, and even then, he put up a fight and didn't beat them by very close. Now compare him to Lebron, who, at his prime, was swept/almost swept 3x (4-1 to Spurs, 4-1 to Warriors and 4-0 to Warriors) playing alongside Hall of Famers/Elite All Stars (Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Love - most of them considered the best in their positions, in other words, SuperTeams). Barkley is one of the greatest of all time... Highly underrated player. Well deserved Hall of Famer. I don't think it's absurd to compare him to Bird, Shaq, Duncan, Lebron, Magic, and other guys. Of course Barkley is a humble man, he won't just affirm he is better than all these guys cause he didn't win championships, but all of the 5 I mentioned played in SuperTeams... The only one of them who was a champion in a 'debatable' non-Super Team was Duncan, but Spurs teams have always been great. Barkley never played (at his prime) with guys of the level of Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, David Robinson and Kawhi Leonard.
I hate interviewers, who cut their guests from talking and completing a sentence! If you ask a question, let the guest answer. Charles couldn't even finish saying anything!
To me Barkley is better than Malone. It’s difficult to say he is better than Bird because of Bird’s team success, So I’d give it to Bird. I think Isaiah Thomas is extremely under rated. I think he was superior to Stockton and Iverson but Curry is probably better.
2:44. I'll give you one. As a Piston fan Jerry Stackhouse in the 2000-2001 season. He averaged almost 30 points a game. Check out the pathetic roster that year.
Barkley, easily the 3rd greatest power forward of all time (yes Malone was better). For those who think it is Dirk or Garnett, you need to do a bit of research.
The problem with comparing Barkley to other power forwards, is that he wasn’t just another forward. He was just a great basketball player. Someone who could do so many things well. Score, rebound, pass, three’s and when felt like it block shots, get steals and defend. He is a generational talent.
Chris Bosh in Toronto, Isaiah Rider in Minnesota, Kevin Love in Minnesota, Steve francis in Houston, and Nick Van Exel in Denver are all great examples of the "Studio gangsters" Charles speaks of.
clutchcity25 dude van exal was a beast and Kevin love stats dropped because he has to change his game for LeBron. LeBron wouldn't have a championship without bosh or love
Bosh was great, just wasn't a good fit with Lebron. When Lebron wasn't playing he still dropped 40 on Portland plus a game winner, plus his stats went up after he left again.
this is wrong cause they put up good numbers elsewhere or in different years on their squads and had team success a better example would be dana barros 95? 76ers mike james 06? raptors and ricky davis 03 cavs
Really finding it strange how short memories are...Barkley is genuinely one of the all time greats. He was 2nd best player in the world after Jordan and the Pro's know this. Just look at how Barkley dominated scoring in Olympics, how the other pros know how good he was. Give him Stockton or any of the other great teams and we might be having the argument that Barkley was the overall goat. You Americans can't think past your own opinion nor 5 mins ago. Respect Sir Charles!
I love how Charles rags on Shaq and how Shaq rags on Chuck every chance they get. Together they worth the price of admission. When you sprinkle in some Ernie, The Jet and the cameos by C-Webb. Its the funniest show on TV
Truemaine Wynn Can you not read? The Celtics SUCKED with Tiny and Maxwell before Bird arrived. Once Bird arrived, the Celtics became a good team. If Tiny and Max were so great, why couldn’t they make Boston a decent team? Oh, and by the time Reggie became great, Bird was crippled by then. His last 3 or 4 years, he was a shell of himself because of a severe back injury.
I'm not saying you aren't right...but he wasn't wrong. He kept it 💯. If you got better teammates and you have more success and you are looked at as a better player.
I was releaved to hear he admitted the prime was when he was in philly. But anybody, would you tell me what happened to him? did he injured somewhere or he just didn't train that much from pheonix days?
