Who has the Best Down-Tilt in Melee? 

based aspect ratio

Ah Yoshi d-tilt, my beloved. Yoshi d-tilt x3 0-to-death will never fail to make me smile.

But junebug, what's the best dtilt in project m? Junebug: "yes"

Link player here! There is actually a small way in which Young Link's down tilt can be considered better. Both of the Links have a meteor smash hitbox on their down tilt, with a sour spot that sends upward. However, Link's meteor is on the inside of the sword and is harder to hit due to the sourspot taking priority, wheras Young Link's is on the tip and is generally easier to hit since it takes priority. This can make Young Link's down tilt slightly more versatile for edgeguarding or breaking CC.

i've never seen a smash player more outraged and confused than the time i used doc downtilt on a local PR player in the corner

Roys our boy

This concept rules, you should do this for dmash fsmash etc. Lots of interesting stuff to talk about across the melee roster imo

Your top 4 is excellent. I would not have thought of Roy and G&W myself, but once you said their names it was obvious you were right

Excellent, loved it, now do every other move in the game please 👍

Peach's downtilt being a meteor and therefore basically a mini Falcon stomp with all the frame advantage due to the opponent bouncing off the ground was underestimated imo

you rly make the most random videos but I'm here for them

great way to think about and categorize pieces of kit

I would watch a video like this for every move in the game

Favorite maker of melee videos hands down. insta watch for me everytime

This was an interesting foray into some iconic moves !

Amazing video, would love to see more videos like this covering the best moves

wow just yesterday i was thinking about where the junebug videos were, welcome back goat

You deserve more views and subscribers, my favorite melee content

There is something about Peaches Dtilt that scratches that happy part of my brain.

Commenting for algorithm🎉 Edit* actually, I like seeing melee content again. Keep putting it out please.

Great video, thanks brother

Was going to say that this video had a lot of And Friends vibes (5:34 + fox clips) and then I saw who edited it. Great video!

great video, these move comparison discussions are always super interesting imo lol. one that i've always wondered about (though it's a slightly different kind of question), which direction aerial is on average the best? Like is it the case that up-air across the melee/pm cast is most often a character's best aerial, or is it n-air perhaps?

I would love to see analysis type videos like this for other moves Excellent video 🔥

oh shit it's Junebug

Dope video June

I love Junebug videos so much omg omg

when this video popped up I felt morally obligated as a roy main to click it and finally see roy being top tier.

1:02 Shin Godzilla mod for PM spotted 👀

the crazy part of falco down tilt is that it actually combos super well :3

Falco's down tilt is a pretty good combo move too, you just gotta space it correctly. Sometimes instead of just following a pillar combo with another, down air + shine I mix up with a Neutral air + down tilt and it works really good on fast fallers, and if you miss your aerial and the opponent gets to shield, it's pretty safe on shield since it can push them away when hitting shield + being a little bit longer than shine and also can shield poke, a good falco will know that down tilt is not just a kill move.

Let’s gooooo, we love junebug in this house

Another banger ❤

Another banger!!!

Ayyy this video goes hard :). I have to add a fun fact to take into consideration for the "best": young link.... down-tilt..... spikes. I believe, it's the only down-tilt that has this property in melee as it stands.

Thanks Junebug

me and my friend are low tier legends in both of our local scenes, and I immediately knew g&w (his low tier main and his ex-main) and roy (my low tier pick vs spacies) would both be really high on this list, but then I remembered yoshi, my ex-main, and I remembered how many bullshit free edgeguards I got from his down-tilt. Great video, and also here's the obligatory 1:1 is based. (also by low tier legends i mean we occasionally go 1-2 or 2-2 in bracket, i see no god up here but me)

It's my favorite Brawlhalla commentator 💪

Another masterclass

peach dtilt is so fucking good

Do up tilts next!

Yoshis is practically a kill move

Wake up babe new junebug video dropped

i like this style

Great video but one thing with luigi d-tilt is it can be okay for covering ledge and can potentially combo at high percent's off of covering ledge, this may seem small but it is helpful on luigi especially cuz down angle f-tilt doesn't really function properly...

Docs downtilt is my favorite move in the game. I love fishing for the reversal hit, and if Marth doesn't amsah tech it, it's really funny as a punish for his up b

I would argue g&w has a similar dtilt to falco in that it combos and kills

i've heard marth with roy down tilt would be broken for years, it'd be cool to actually see somebody bring it to life

g&ws d-tilt is one of the best “get off me” moves in the game

June right bowsers down tilt is 26th maybe decent edge guarding but so punishable, the opposite of what you want a tilt to be.

New June :)

As a GW player, this seemed like a fair assessment :)

idk about links but YL dtilt can actually spike people offstage, so it can be pretty nice to hit people trying to grab ledge with it :)

I feel like falco dtilt can also be used as an okay poke and combo extender/ender, although not as efficient as fox's. I've been seeing Mango and KJH use it a lot more recently.

great video! i do wish that for the uninitiated, you explained what the acronyms were during that setup phase, because everyone wont know what FC aerials are, or what ASDI or amsah techning is, and while you did go over CC and IASA frames existing & their implications, i feel like they werent explained as concepts really also typo at 1:53 safety

junebug content :^)

yo I just wanna say those peach clips were NASTY, like how long were they on the backburner? specifically @ 6:34

Is it possible to make a melee mod, where you can create a character by using one character as a base and then give it moves from others? Like: Having Marth with a Shine and Fox' Upsash, Yoshi's Downtilt, Ice climbers wavedash etc ?

Game and Watch

he lives

there's a beautiful irony that Yoshi's dtilt can be amsah teched

4:3 supremacy

4:3 pog

I heart saftery (known from just before the Mario bobs show up

8:02 why do you say marth would be the best character with roy's dtilt why also ranking marth's dtilt above roy's?

what does distortion mean when you use the word

Shout out to samus downtilt which comboes middle weights like sheik and marth extremely well

Mr. G&W

Marth down tilt is stupid good

I personally think it’s Roy who has the best. Long ranged (only slightly shorter than Marth’s) combo starter, combo extender, and IASA 20 (just like Marth’s). Imagine if every time you got poked by Marth d tilt, you instead ate a combo

Yoshi mentioned RAAAAH

Yoshi. It's Yoshi.

you didnt cover yl downtilt spiking/meteoring at ledge if sweetspotted

Our boy, duh.

Yooo what’s that skin pack at 6:45.

Yoshi has a top 3 down tilt in melee imo

editing reminds me of justus

4:3 is god like

Haven't seen it yet, but it's probably Roy's right? At least I think so

Babe wake up Junebug just posted🗣️🔥

whos toolkit does the most damage.

luigi dtilt can combo into up-b sweetspot on spacies if you wavedash but that's like it's only utility so can't argue with where you put it LMAOOO

G&W's downtilt CAN KILL!!! Very reliably too!!!

Haven't watched the video yet but the answer is Roy's

People are loving the aspect ratio.... but I had to check, and it's 4 pixels off! You're shaving 2 pixels off of each side! Melee is 73:60, so a 720p video should end up being 876x720. Video ends up being 872x720. Might be a conversion youtube does though

I'd say Roy. Imagine Roy d-tilt comboing into a Fox Upsmash or Bair. That is some P+ shit right there. And having your defensive stance move be an uno reverse card instead of a reset tool sounds a bit more bs.

before watching the video it's roy or yoshi

I love 4:3

marth downtilt with distortion and reverb

Its roy? Is there really a debate here

Roy’s d tilt is a perfect combo starter. Too bad he doesn’t have any combos to start.

junebug

Who has the best down tilt? Psh... me!

Why would a poke be better than a combo starter? Because it sends off-stage?

y9u should do one for the causuals 💀💀💀

Imagine if Roy dtilt was on a good character

I see youre disagreeing with leffen saying mewtwos down tilt is the best down tilt in the game

imagine fox spamming mewtwo dtilt out of run as a mixup, directly into grab/shine. that sounds awful

who has the best X is a melee content gold mine

Roy.