Who REALLY Killed BRIAN JONES of the ROLLING STONES? - If Guitars Could Speak... #28 

Thanks so much, Keith!

Me too!!

@@TheGuitarHistorian There where whispers that the entire band was there that night. Of coarse one of those people that made those whispers was murdered by the same 'handyman' who oversaw the 'execution ritual' of 'Brian Jones'. They all played a part.

I read all this earlier on and usually don’t speak to this type of thing cause I think technology takes us places we shouldn’t be but this doesn’t pass the sniff test and I grew up listening to this stuff.I was happy to see Mich Taylor take his place though.with the money that was there for the taking,,,,sniff,snifff,sniff,sniff,good article though,glad to see not everyone believes the B.S. just because someone says so an god knows there was enough money to make everyone say so

@@barrykilts4506 names, dates, places and faces. The 'Rolling Stones' were involved in a ritual to kill Brian Wilson, the 'yard worker' was the 'priest' over seeing the affair. The dead bodies are the testament to the spell that was cast. I'm not just referring to Brian Jones, I'm referring to the pregnant witness that was murdered by the 'yard worker' aka 'cabbie' aka 'Mi5'. You are a willing pawn my sheep.

I agree. Very disrespectful statement.

Good pts.

I'm with you on that

Agree 100% . That's like saying well your mother was murdered but it' doesn't really matter cuz she was going to die anyway. In all fairness I believe that the real point was that the"guitar historian" was attempting to stay neutral on the whole conspiracy thing. He may have concluded instead that the actual facts in BJ's death still remain mysterious, and that everyone will need to draw their own conclusions

I agree!!!!!

woah!

I do not doubt you, please send a wee bit of a fun story , just to make us oldies smile at your secret life. it make me really happy

bobby keys..he n nicky hopkins would go out w cocker. i knew someone in joe c s band.

And then Bill Wyman quit. And he is still alive I believe?

@@marshabrown2561 Mick made that comment many years earlier...right after he quit.

Could u give a quote from the book please new news to me

utter rubbish

@@Paul_G73 because you say so? I suppose you've seen the death clause in Brian's contract then and know who got paid for the rights to use the band name Rolling Stones since it was Brian who owned the name. The name alone is worth killing for but what would Paul McCartney know right.

@@ponzo1967 the autopsy report said it was death by misadventure. It was a police autopsy on a dead human, not a mediocre one.

@@ponzo1967 No one killed Brian Jones. It was a accident. He probably fell asleep went right under the pool.

Totally agree with you on this Bill was the man to know at the end of the day I really do think Frank Thorogood did finish off Brian Jones either by accident with a bit of rough play in the pool or deliberately

If I found something in the streets of Portland, I would boil it in water just to disinfect it before I touch it and you can't do that with a book because it's paper. Nevertheless... Bill Wyman in the book you mention, "Stone Alone" speculated that Brian's pool death may have been a consequence of an epileptic seizure which is quite possible. Bill's speculation is backed up with information he acquired about one of Brian's offspring, a daughter who was an epilepsy victim although her mother has no epilepsy in her family.

Why kill someone who has been paying and is well off? Handyman doing bad work? By whose standards and show me some photos of this sloppy work. Drowning is easy enough to do without swimming under the influence of drugs. You will make mistakes but while in deep water the side of the pool is a long way off when you are out of breathe and panic sets in-you are forced by the body to inhale and if you are under water that the end.

Read it, says some pretty solid things about Brian's relationship with jagger. . . .There was a hostile takeover, and they wrote the history

I wish Brian would have had a switch blade on him that night so he ..Could have GUTTED that handy man !

Same here

You liked the 60s music and you are nostalgic for it. Brian did not contribute any musical ideas in the 60s any more than he did in the 70s. The writing was all Mick and Keith.

sounds like it was the thug builders he was using rather than the music industry that did the deed.

@@joefoley1480 Most on here want there to be a conspiracy. An Agatha Christie. 'Who did it' Cannot except that he may just have fell in the pool and drowned., it may have been that simple....I know there is an ..alleged.. cover up by the police for a botched investigation. Now I can believe that because they have done just that a few times in the past. Brian Jones was a talented musician, he started the greatest rock band ever. Perhaps he was just overwhelmed by the lifestyle...who knows.

Yep it's the Mafia owned industry, if they don't do what we say, send a message.

@@brianperry Brian passed out, as he was prone to do after he brought himself down from his amphetamine bender with Brandy and whisky... This time he was in his pool alone and he sank to the bottom and died. The only mystery is why it hadn't happened sooner. Brian killed himself with Booze and drugs.

Wow

He as always washing his hair very fastidious about his grooming

Not all at the same time though.

😂

@@azilionzoman6721 😐

​@@TheGuitarHistorian 7:48

He played 31 instruments..

Absolutely. Very dodgy players involved in his death and goings on at the house the night he was murdered.

Rite On Bro!

@@jaygolden535 Did you ever see the docu of Brian Jones' teenage girlfriend and mother of his child, sorry her name escapes me, spending time with a psychic......

@@heyabusa1 No I have not seen it yet - I’ll look into that - Thanx for the Suggestion…

@@jaygolden535 Ill try and find it and post you a link here. You dont have to be into the psychic bit, although its very interesting to say the least, but the places they visit and people they speak to is very interesting indeed. Give me a few mins and I'll get back to you.

Get lost, fake fan.

Keith's drug use was second to none, dear boy, too many complications for a 27 year old to have brought upon themselves in a few short years..

@@marcumexe I agree, user, dear boy... The drugs get the headlines but the booze is what really did Brian in. Keith had the good sense to moderate... But Brian had no such filter on his indulgences. Keith could take a few shots of JD ,just to get a good buzz on and he kept playing, singing and writing. Brian couldn't stop until the bottle was empty and he was helplessly unconscious and on the floor. As far as anyone knows, and it is obvious that he does, Keith still has a healthy heart and liver at 80. Brian was dead at 27.

Also I am a 27 yo Pisces that struggles with all of those things- but I'm an excellent swimmer. xoxo to others struggling you are loved

My heart goes out to the Pisces community. Such sensitive souls.

@@monilaninetynine3811 I have a Pisces moon..does that count? lol

@@DefianceGal it does indeed

@@melorgomolox6828 I love pisceans. Most of my friends are p..always wtd to fall in love with a piscean but never felt more than soulmates yet with no physical attraction. Except for kurt Cobain! Physically just my type! And Keuth Urban..a scorp/libran, just like me.

I would’ve definitely liked to have seen what he did next.

Brian's DNA is all over the early hits, really? Brian was a fine musician, but the hits weren't really his style at all, in my opinion. YMMV.

@@slimturnpike He played the central riff on their first self-written hit, The Last Time, the key slide on Little Red Rooster, played the sitar on Paint It Black, the key marimba on Under My Thumb...made many of the early songs out of the ordinary.

@@steveconn Fair enough.

Probably the most overrated song that the Stones ever recorded.

@Bliggick Jagger and Richards weren't going to be that "kind" towards Brian because they couldn't wait to be rid of him because of how cruel he treated his bandmates. Possibly Karma was coming around for Brian. It's truly too bad what happened to Brian Jones. Perhaps if he hadn't hired that "handyman" referred to him by Keith Richards and did his own searching of a "handyman" and drawn up a contract and paid 50% upfront and the remaining 50% when the work was done. Also, Brian had ailments that most young men at the same age do not have. RIP Brian Jones. Good presentation, however, you didn't tell me anything new that I had already read about. I believe "The Glimmer Twins" a/k/a Jagger and Richards received the "Kings" ransom from Oldham to become the "new" leaders of the band and Brian was ousted from a band that he invested so much time and effort and talent into. I have zero respect for Jagger and Richards because today they are snobs. Everyone talks about how many children Brian had sired with different girls. Look at Jagger: to date he has eight (8) by different women. Richards became a druggie and was sent off to get better and the band had to stop. This is when Wyman began writing and recording his own stuff and releasing the albums in the UK until Richards came back from his hospital stay for his drug issue. I read that Jagger had an argument with Pallenberg accusing her of ruining the life of his best friend. Soon after Richards and Pallenberg divorced. Richards hooked up with a model and had more children. However, no one throws stinging arrows at their lifestyles just honors them. Poor Brian. I realize he was the beginner and finisher of his life and the part he would play with his own band. Life isn't fair to no one!

Mick and Keith were jealous of Brian's musical talent, that he could play multiple instruments, and despite the fact that he wasn't a songwriter, his ability with many instruments gave the songs a color and character that later Stones songs lacked, as good as they were. After Brian, Stones songs became more typical of a blues rock band.

Keith already stole his style and girlfriend, Jagger his persona for Performance, had abused him in the studio with unplugged mics, wrong session dates...getting rid of him was a dream for them All over a petty extra five he paid himself in the early days. I like Mick and Keith but it puts a bad taste in one's mouth.

@@furtherdefinitions1 Definitely! I can see Jagger & Richards being jealous of Brian because of his incredible talents when it came to instrumentation on songs. Funny you should say that after Brian's death the Stones became more typical of a blues rock band because I just read where Paul McCartney called the Stones "A Blues Cover Band" and Paul got into a mess with Jagger about that interview. Jagger and Richards and Watts really PS me because of how they hired Oldham and Oldham chose those two Glimmer Twins to be the band leaders and disposed of Brian Jones like used garbage. Incredible move and it took balls to do that.

@@steveconn Definitely! Brian was the entire brain child of the band in the early days and they repaid him with jealousy and becoming mad of paying himself an extra five! Give me a break guys! He employed Jagger and Richards. He made all the phone calls and the connections! And you begrudge the guy! Jagger has fathered more children with different women than Brian. Richard's fingers are all twisted and gnarled. I saw a video that Richards stumbled on stage during a concert. What a klutz!

Are you kidding. jagger & Richard’s have done nothing but discredit him for decades but with the internet they can no longer pretend he wasn’t in the band.

My recent frustration has been researching subject after subject that has met the same fate. But we also, as you said, I have to take things into perspective. It was a different time. Mental health is still not something that is given the respect that it deserves. And 50 years ago it certainly wasn’t understood. Borderline ignored.

@@TheGuitarHistorian I think one of the most heartbreaking stories re addiction and mental health was Rory Gallagher. Perhaps the factors of drinking, prescription meds pushed him into depression. In those days no one regarded mental health as an issue which it most likely was in his case. His death was such a terrible loss. Every year he is honoured by 10,000 people in Ballyshannon. He is so loved and respected. It would have been so much better if he could have realized that and received the help he needed. Nowadays sports figures are speaking out and hopefully musicians will as well.

he was not and addict so exagerrated and got clean seriously stop listening and spreading rumours

@@MoroccanMelody not sure if you’ve seen but I’ve done 2 episodes on Rory.

@@TheGuitarHistorian Hi, yes I saw both episodes in Forgotten Fretmasters and If Guitars Could Speak. Both excellent and well researched. I think one point about Rory as pointed out by his brother Donal that Rory did drink but it was more the addiction to the prescribed medications combined with the alcohol that contributed to his increasing depression and breakdown of his health. He was never into hard drugs of any kind. His brother tried to get the doctors to stop prescribing the medications but they would not. It is a great tragedy that pulled Rory down and led to his death.

But why was you kicked out of the band ?

@@nutcracker2916 Not good enough.

@@ericgiova1663 At least you're honest.

Yeah same thing happened to me. I wasn’t good enough in the end. Hurts for sure.

@@nutcracker2916 It was a wake up call actually. I started to work on my play seriously after that. So, in the end it was not so bad, even if...

me too. the original Stones were a great group , together, their chemistry, at least in the first years, and they didn't survive. They aren't the same group. i saw them in November 1964 and November 1969 and they were starkly different, not the same band. still great musicians but not that chemistry and cohesiveness of their first years. .

No they were never the same ...The got much better when the hired a real creative guitar player.

There’s… a lot of accusations there. Allen Klein was a money laundering douche, but a murderer? And blaming lowly driver Keylock? Come on

​@@TheGuitarHistorian Keylock was also British Intelligence. He wasn't just a 'lowly driver'. The Stones and the Beatles both had some really 'heavy' people around them. Brian's murder is well accepted as such, which is why Keylock put the story out about Thorogood's deathbed confession. It's just that Thorogood had no reason to kill Jones whatsoever. Keylock did. He was employed by the Stones as Brian's personal 'minder' and he absolutely hated the job by all accounts. The Stones did promise Brian a healthy payout and 100,000 pounds a year for as a long as the Stones were a viable band. At that point Brian became very expendable to a lot of people, the Stones were broke and 3 years away from having to go into tax exile. There is a lot more to the death of Brian Jones than sleeping pills and a swimming pool. That 'official story' has been told many times and it's never held up to begin with. It's a cover up for the type of death that happens in the entertainment business all the time.

Klein took Sam Cooke for a ride, as his widow found out later. Alan Klein was the reason the Beatles split. George, John, & Ringo wanted Klein. Paul wanted Linda Eastmans dad to manage them. I think I read that in Rolling Stone, way back in the 70s. (We know what a reputation they have for honest journalism). Yes it seems every one who got mixed up with A Klein, ended up being ripped off. Keef called it "the price of an education", Mick wasn't quite so forgiving. (On the 25x5 documentary about the first 25 years of the Stones. Could be wrong on the exact title.)

@@bluesingmusic3443 And do you know what? The 'official story' was that Sam Cooke was shot to death at a motel by a scared employee after a hooker ran out of his room screaming for her life. Apparently, the hooker was a setup, and the men she was with followed Sam there and did the deed. He was so severely beaten that his face was unrecognizable and his neck was broken. Rumor has it that Klein and 'friends' from Morris Levy's office do it because Cooke was setting up his own music publishing company for himself and other black artists and he would have cost them millions by doing so. radiofacts.com/sam-cookes-1964-murder-case-needs-further-exploration/

Plus Brian was an excellent swimmer so it’s questionable

Sorry, cocaine was not popular in the 60's, cost was high and no one could justify the cost for the minor effect it produced, crystal meth was King, cheap and lots of kick, that was what those times liked..

No promises in the future! 😂

This video is mostly myths lies and fantasies. Very little of the narration has any truth in it.

Same here! Still love & miss him so much! Was blessed 2 have seen them in 65 & 66 in my hometown $5.00 tickets & remember to this day what he wore that one year! First crush on musician then & still is at 72 now such a tragic lose! ❤️🇺🇸☮️

Agreed!.....I truly believe the Stones were at their BEST with Brian Jones...Alot of their early hits go unplayed today by Radio Stations and they play alot of their post 1975 songs...I just like their songs better with BJ.....Rest in Peace! Brian

Definitely bro!

@@b.w.barbee2269 me too!

@@cathsalazar9930 Mick Taylor was better

Well considering Jagger was on the other side of the world filming Ned Kelly!

Misadventure? More like murder..

@@margueritemazzeo2904 Jones was dying by his own hand. Asthmatics who chain smoke cigarettes and drugs for 15 years rarely live past 30.

I agree it was a little harsh. I’ve been getting down on all these amazing musicians I’ve been chronicling knowing that they died way before their time. Wishing they were still here. If you’ve ever been frustrated that a person can’t change themselves and wonder why, that’s kind of where my headspace was at. I tried to be just as hard on the fellow Stones as well, who I feel could have been more supportive. And maybe Keith shouldn’t have stolen his girlfriend…

@@TheGuitarHistorian I just read an old book "Golden Stone" and in it the author stated Jones had just finished his first solo single in his home studio. It was written in the 90s and she was frustrated that it appeared to have disappeared. I've searched around and it does seem to have disappeared completely. There is no mention of it anywhere. It would have been fascinating to hear and it is a good indication of his positive and forward-planning mindset. The book also mentioned a statement from Jones' loyal groundsman who described watching Thorogood's men come in after the death and gut the place, stealing money and burning lots of stuff in a big bonfire in the garden. It seems certain to me he was murdered and the police actively covered it up. The implications of this are huge. Have you heard of the book "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"? The author puts forward a good case for many of the big 60s bands being involved to some extent with the intelligence services.

@@TheGuitarHistorian You left out that keith rubbed it in Brian's face by having her at the studio and making out with her in front of Brian. You also left out that anita went back and forth between keith and Brian for months. It was a cruel game to play on a man so troubled and, for some unknown reason, in love with her. But like Marianne Faithfull said, that was how anita was and she liked hurting Brian. It was a power trip to her and anita could be very cruel.

@@nodarkthings It didn't disappear, it was burned along with a lot of other things. There are photos of Brian's things being burned in his yard. I read in a few books that it was on the instructions from mick and keith. They didn't want anything released to change their narrative of him all drugged up and useless and that is why they fired him.

@@nodarkthings Who was the author? Interested to read this.

Mick couldn’t play anything except the tambourine! He was hardly in a position to criticise.

@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree he sang and played a bit of guitar and harmonica. As far Brian, he really fell apart so I'm sure that Mick could hear the difference between how he USED to be and what he became.

I never liked Jagger/Richards characters.Not my cup of tea. Jagger always was an opportunist Richards a selfish junkie. But what would you do with a guy who couldn' t bring usuable contributions to the band' s music anymore. And they had too much to do with themselves as to be sensitive with Jones. Jones' last good effort was the slide guitar on No expectations.

It’s always adorable when Mick straps on a guitar lol

You can still attend the man’s funeral. Btw, when Jones died, his slice of the royalties went with him…just saying

I think Bill was right on that i had a girlfriend who had what is known as absence seizures these are not like the grand mal seizures, but just just a temporary period of a black out lasting a minute or so when she went to the baths she had to have someone with her and or inform the lifeguard

Yes, a caretaker was questioned about the event and admitted that Brain was horsing around and being a general asshole. He held him under the water a bit too long. End of story. This is old hat bullshit. This guy is a know nothing. Look at his ancient albums . Lol. I imagine he will talk about Charles Manson and The Beach Boys next. Same shit over and over again. And again and again.. WTF. Thousands of bands out there and people glom to the same fucking 30 groups. That is America. Land of the lost.

@7 Haunted Days How many albums did you make? What stars have you hung out with? You dream about the days I belonged to. I go on lame sites to call out know nothing losers like you. I was there when History was made. Where were you?

Beside all that B.S. I loved the stones and still do. Saw them in ‘72, 74or 5( not sure)81 and and at least once more when Wyman was still there. I just despise people bringing up the same ole shit . Over and over and ignore all the great new bands. In which there are thousands!!

Kinda funny you mentioned Hendrix...who died being "drowned in alcohol" like SO MANY others...all of whom I believe were MURDERED. Jani Lane of "Warrant" close to me...(see the Bond movie "Tomorrow Never Dies")

Skip Spence diddled kids. F that creep…

From a musicians point of view, Jones was a decent rhythm guitarist when he was clean and sober. He tried playing a lot of other instruments but he never mastered any of them.

Brian Jones wasn't talented enough to carry a piss bucket for Jimi Hendrix. That you try to equate their plane of musicianship together is hilarious.

Taylor was treated as expendible too- though like Jones his contributions exceded Richards

Of course Brian created the Stones. The Blues never stopped being an influence and Brian contributed greatly to Keith and Mick's songs.

Brian's contribution was mostly as a musician and not as a writer. He wanted to be a blues "cover" band. That's different from say Hendrix or Clapton or Page who were blues influenced and wrote new music to that effect.

You are very confused if you think musicians don't create and contribute. You also have a narrow definition of what writing is. You're also not too familiar with how the band, including Brian, developed over time.@@caryl246

Yeah his autopsy shows therapeutic drugs and a couple of drinks.

Keylock was known to lie when he was in the army. One of the reasons he was discharged from service.

Fair point. If it were my father, I’d want to know for sure.

Also he owned the name the rolling stones. Wasn't it weird that they did the film performance a.rock star all alone, in a house with a criminal, Brian, easily could have got his life back together and started something else, and stayed authentic to the blues, and rode the Fleetwood Mac, blues boom, etc. He was a problem for stones, where Klein went . . . . Things happened, Sam cook, Beatles, stones, and that ex policeman that ran about for stones. Brian's new girlfriend got a kicking, and her new partner after Brian's death, got blame, but it was the person she accused Brian of having a "fight with" on night of his death. 50 years sealed.

@@justincase6201 your right I'm sure, I do music myself if you click on link and pass it about I'd be grateful been offered deals on the past but find industry, from eduction (colleges) upward shady, although I suppose it's just your luck

@@justincase6201 im interested to know the name of the film . id like to hunt it down and see it. thanks

@@justincase6201 thank you. . Will do my best

@@justincase6201 actually just ordered it on e bay should have it about nov 5-10

Was wondering the same

Jones was not a "brilliant musician ", by any measure. His musical abilities were quite limited and sophomoric. He could peck out a simple melody on a handful of novel instruments and his guitar playing was very mediocre. He could not write anything and he could not sing at all.

@@williardbillmore5713 Go to sleep.

It would appear you’re right. Must have been reading bad information.

@@TheGuitarHistorian Brian plays marimba on Under My Thumb.

@@BigSky1 damn that’s probably what I read and I just got mixed up when writing it.

@@TheGuitarHistorian of course you'll be facing detention after school. It'll be in study hall, room 112. See that you report 5 minutes after last bell. They consequences of skipping it, will be reflected in the rather nasty note, we'll be sending to your parents. See you there.

Nope

Long live Rolling Jones! 🎸🎻🎷🪕🪘🎹🎺🎧🥁 multi instrumentalist extraordinaire!!! ✌️

No, actually he wasn't. Jones' musical abilities were quite limited and unsophisticated.

@@williardbillmore5713 eh yer just jelly 😆✌️

@@williardbillmore5713 WHAT???

@@effdonahue6595 Give me some examples of what you believe demonstrates Jones' "master musicianship", and be prepared to be embarrassed.

Brian and Jim Morrison also broke peoples hearts not just Joplin

@@aryalogo6624 Janis Joplin one person

@@aryalogo6624 Rubbish

I read that Yoko Ono was the "mastermind" behind it, but 11 years later it came back to haunt her when Karma reared it's ugly head

@@djf750 Yoko was kind of a drag IMHO, but -- not involved.

Ian Anderson is certainly known for not censoring his comments.

@@TheGuitarHistorian: I know there's no avoiding saying dumb shit on occasion but I wouldn't take pride in the fact that I didn't try to minimize it.

Totally agree. Jethro Tull is overrated bigly

@@78aquaman: That´s for sure. After Aqualung it´s all a boring overproduced verbose mess with no palatable songs, just Anderson droning on and on.

Fair point. In rewatching it I realize it kind of came out the wrong way.

he did put the drugs behind him gosh do the proper research he was also a serious guy

@@TheGuitarHistorian In the whole video you put out was rather good.Except i agree with paul deem 100%. It left me with a weird feeling about you and "that notion" you came out with....Terrible, because with help and love a person has always a chance of new. Especially if one is so young.

@@TheGuitarHistorian - he was murdered by the contractor. Or maybe not, but you can't just dismiss the actual circumstances. This account is just shallow baseless psychologizing, the cliché classic rock 27 club story line.

The thing is his autopsy shows therapeutic drugs and a couple of drinks. He was murdered

Since his autopsy shows therapeutic drugs and a couple of drinks, it proves he was murdered

@@mikebusack2766 again, Keith showed his professional jealousy of Taylor......

Mick Taylor had a fit with Keith that caused him to leave the band.

Not to mention Mick Taylor was trying to avoid the pitfalls of the rampant heroin and cocaine use by Jagger and Keef......

@@thomasfoss9963 I remember a few decades ago reading a book about the stones in which they said that Keith would take his guitar into the bathroom for as long as 12 hours at a time while he practiced with it, shot up and then hoping for a BM because he was so constipated from the heroin. It also said in the book that in order to get off the smack, Keith would go to a private clinic in Switzerland and have his blood completely recycled within a 24-hour period. I don't know how true that was but I wouldn't have put something like that past him.

@@nonamegame9857Right-- I've read/heard some of those same stories... They definitely led a crazy, fast paced lifestyle with all the glit, glamour, and girls!!!!!!!! It's amazing that Keith is still amongst us! There are lots of jokes and stories about Keiths lifestyle and longevity!!!! What really happened with Brian, we may never know..........

Get lost, fake fan.

Because Jagger and Richards are selfish assholes. Jagger wanted became member of high society, Richards a rich and famous junkie. They both achived their goals, Jones was just a troublemaker to them.

his autopsy shows therapeutic drugs and a couple of drinks...he was murdered

@@terrycuster4213 Well that's calling a spade a spade and a most direct opinion I'd have to say. However is it biased towards/against Jagger & Richards? Do you have an axe to grind against them both? I'm only playing 'devil's advocate' here sir and I am not 'taking sides' against your opinion - on the contrary actually. I wonder of the 'song writing rights' of The Rolling Stones. The songs have always been credited with usually the 'Jagger & Richards' combination, rather than the band or all of the members. Song writing copyrights is/are worth a lot of money. Therefore song writers are worth their weight in gold effectively...ask John Lennon & Paul McCartney from The Beatles...and Elton John & Bernie Taupin how valuable their song writing is worth. Note of those just mentioned there is no third writer included. Then there is Pink Floyd. The song writing was mainly down to Roger Waters and David Gilmour and again either individually or as a combo. Richard Wright wrote the odd song as well. Founding member Syd Barrett wrote 'Astronomy Domine'. And worthy of mention is; 'Careful with That Axe Eugene' was written by Roger Waters, Richard Wright, Nick Mason, and David Gilmour! I guess what I am attempting to either highlight/ask is what do politics have amongst a band/group when it comes to song writing ownership and politics within a band/group? Because in my opinion I'd take a bet they had a lot to do with the tragic death of Brian Jones. Just sayin'

@@lyricberlin Well that's straight to the point. Author Terry Rawlings believes Brian Jones was murdered and there was a cover-up in his book; 'Brian Jones: It Was Murder' published on the 45th anniversary of the guitarist’s death in 2021.

@@lyricberlin Find there was pop pills and alcohol in his system

reason ?? looked not sure your point

Through the past darkly photo shoot Brian looks handsome and vibrant.

Amen. All the biggies have made Faustian bargains. Beatles lost Paul. Who lost moon. Zeppelin lost Bonham. And of course The Stones gave Jones for their fame. People refuse to see this for what it is. The music bizz . Is fueled demonically . If u look u will see.

You were in the Rolling Zone! ✌️

@@effdonahue6595 MORE THAN ROLLING, FULL BLOWN PSYCHO-DELIC.

@@markshriver6538 yeah baby! 😆

Greatest band of all time

He may have needed a court mandated stay in Broadmoor. Maybe saved his life. Could have,Would have,Should have, all well and truly too late now.

Should a Should of farted but he sh!+ himself

I want what your on

Beatles suck