Who REALLY Owns Each Era 

Did 2k get it right?? How would you change up the eras? CORRECTION: The word I was looking for a "Parity", not "Parody". I could totally go for the "I meant Parody" angle for humor.... but I didn't, I was just dumb and tired while editing. Lol. My bad.

By the time this current era is over it might be called the Euro Era if we see more of them win titles by then

Kobe is my favorite player ever...but you're absolutely right. It's a huge shame that the NBA almost wants the fans to forget the incredible impact Duncan had on the Spurs franchise and the culture of winning.

I would call the 70s The Lost Era. Since the talent was split between the NBA/ABA we didnt get to see the best compete against each other until more than halfway through the decade.

It should be the Kobe/Duncan/Scalabrine era honestly. 😂

I have to 100% agree with you on this one. Leaving off Tim Duncan and Steph Curry is definitely an omission when they included Bird. Even as a Rockets fan, you really cannot justify adding Hakeem to the Jordan era. He was great, but Jordan was on another level. If Hakeem had gotten a third ring, if his late 80s finals run had been in the 90s and had been a victory, Then you would probably have to also have Hakeem.

I think these corrections make sense. It feels weird labeling the two recent eras after specific players cuz it feels like we're leaving out a lot of talent, but I guess that's cause they are still pretty recent. As time passes, those decades will increasingly be remembered by 1 or 2 icons, just like the 80s and 90s

The 70's belonged to DrJ. Despite the fact that his 2 championships were in the ABA, he was the first World wide basketball superstar, NBA teams were lusting after him. In 1975 he was the first player in history to get his own shoe contract.

It feels weird not having a Shaq era. The dude was an absolute monster and dominated the league. 4 rings and 6 finals trips in 11 years is easily equivalent to what other's have done, it's just that his career doesn't nicely fit the decade model that's being used and it overlaps with Jordan, Kobe, and Duncan.

The only thing I'd argue about the LeBron era: it was a given that, to win a championship, you'd have to go through LeBron. But I'm not upset Curry shares the spotlight with him.

I think you meant the parity era not the parody era for the 70s :D Although considering Will Ferrel's Semi-Pro is set in the 70s I guess it also works

I agree with most what you said. However, I would still put Wilt in the 60s era. Just the sheer fact that he broke so many records in that time makes it fine with me to put him together with Bill. Second point, yes the 70s were a mess period for NBA, but when you look what Kareem achieved individually in that time, it can be considered as Kareem Era.

What i love about the modern day era is any team can dominate. Right now its the Nuggets but veteran teams like the Warriors and Lakers can pull up as well as the east with Giannis. gonna be amazing to see how this decade will play out

Cant name an era solely after a guy(Lebron) who lost to another guy(Steph) head to head 3 times in da finals

One thing you left out of the LeBron era, is their achievements outside the championships. The Allstars and All-NBA selection has over Curry plays a huge part in that. the period from 2011-2020 Lebron's All-NBA: 1x 3rd All-NBA, 9x 1st All-NBA, 3x All-NBA defensive 1st team, 1x all-nba defensive 2nd team, 10x allstar, Curry's All-NBA: 2x 2nd All-NBA, 1x 3rd All-NBA, 3x 1st All-NBA, 0 defensive team selections, 6x Allstar

I just found this channel last week and DANG does Jonny consistently come with heat 🔥

The ironic thing is, Kobe only had better stats than Shaq vs the spurs, was thanks to Duncans defense on Shaq.

2000s was the Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan Era. Can't omit Diesel.

If anything it should be the "Lebron and the Warriors" era, even though Steph is the heart of it, but it's hard to ignore two titles with KD as FMVP

Maybe they should've called it the Lakers/Spurs era, because unlike Bird vs Magic it wasn't portreited "Duncan vs Kobe". Doing so, you would include: 4 MVPs (2000; 2002; 2003; 2008) 7 Finals MVPS (2000-2003; 2005; 2007; 2009) 9 Western Champions (2000-2005; 2007-2009) 1 6MOY (2008) 1 COY (2003)

So Shaquille Oneal didn't play in the 2000's.... Shaq doesn't have 4 rings in the 2000's. With 5 finals appearances and 7 conference finals ..... 3 finals MVPs.....

I think for the "Kobe era" they called it that because although he and Duncan kinda shared that era, Kobe was the more marketable/face of the NBA player. It was different from Magic and Bird, where they were basically equal in terms of superstardom. Duncan was arguably the most low-key Superstar ever. And on the Bron era... I think they called it that because he started the "player empowerment" movement. Like, joining up and making super teams and not just being moved by the organizations. They pretty much said as much in the description, for this one. That's just my point of view. Love the content and agree with your logic.

The reason that era on the game was label the Magic and Bird era is because either Magic or Bird were representatives in every finals of that decade and the NBA as a company has bonded their names together not just as rivals but also having “saved” the league. The other eras don’t share those qualities.

The reason Bron got his own era, is because he was unquestionably the best player during that decade. We can’t just ignore that staff had KD during two of his wins against Bron

Curry never truly beat Lebron on equal playing field. 2015 both Kevin love and Kylie were out for the whole series. 2016, it was equal and bron won. 2017, kd and 2018 kd.

Agreed with most except the 2000s era..personally i think it would made more sense to call it the Shaq and Kobe era as there really was nobody stopping them other then themselves...they are they 3rd team to 3peat after Bills Celtics and Jordans Bulls...even after they split they both still dominated the league with Shaq winning another in Miami and Kobe dropping 60s even 80 point games

I disagree about changing the LeBron era, it's going to be the LeBron era because most of the time, it was about him. Mostly the story was from 'The decision' to 'I'm back in Cleveland', winning that Cleveland a ring.

Shaq still had 4 championships in the 00s and was the MVP in 3. It's just wrong leaving him out of it.

So for the Lebron era, he’s just gonna ignore MVPS, finals mvps, stats, all nba teams, all defense teams, and all star teams?

Shaq also won four rings in the 2000s.

@jonnyarnett, totally agree. I did a reel earlier this year and felt the exact same way with little exception. I get Bron fans would argue more finals trips but head to head is the difference. Thanks and continue to share your content!

I think because Tim Duncan is quiet, and wasn’t a flashy player, 2K would rather Kobe represent the era

I’m kinda iffy about the 2010s. But I have to give the edge to the LeBron Era. He’s won 4 finals MVP’s in that decade. Also, scoring the most points in that decade and playoff points. Also winning the greatest championship of all time in 2016. I respect Steph, though.

One could argue the 2000s was Shaq’s era too. 4 rings 3 FMVP

Parody or Parity? 😂

If the answer isn’t Ben Simmons I’m unsubscribing

Why are finals MVP’s so devalued. Curry was only the best player on his team 1-2 time in 4 rings. Lebron was a clear 4. It’s like calling Kareem the leader of the showtime lakers.

The two most controversial. Totally agree with the Kobe and Duncan Era narrative. They were both the two best players and while they didn't have the finals matchups like bird and magic, when you consider the spurs vs lakers rivalry, it was THE rivalry of the era, nothing else came close. The only argument I think you can make against Tim Duncan besides the things Jonny brought up was that Duncan's 2014s ring was farther removed than kobes 2010 ring from the 2000s(as well as the fact he took a back seat by then), but even that is very weak argument. With the Curry and Lebron era thing its a mixup because honestly there is a solid argument to counteract steph's argument for the 2010s era and that's KD's arrival in 2017 basically made it impossible for anyone else to realistically compete. This isn't saying curry wasn't the best player, he was in a 1a 1b situation with KD, kinda like Kobe in shaq, but its an argument saying that half of his success that era was contributed by the fact that his team was so stacked they could have won even without them and the fact that in 2015 the cavs had injuries to both love and kyrie(and while I am aware the warriors were injured in 2016, Kyrie and love were completely out of the games, curry was still able to contribute and you can't blame draymond's suspension on anyone but him). I still think that curry should be a part of that era with lebron but it isn't hard to see why people would put lebron above curry in that regard.

I love the sensible perspective you always have, Jonny. Keep up the great content!

I agree with the changes you made. Because this is a team sport = there are so many variables involved and only selecting one player when there are other great players involved is too short sighted. Thanks for making and sharing this video = keep up the good work!

I think Shaq has a argument for being one of the players for the 2000s era

Honestly, I feel that Shaq was slighted here. 3 Finals MVPs and one MVP, 4 rings in total. I think the 2000s should have been the Lakers and Spurs era.

You nailed it. Very good pic for the naming of the ERAs.

Unreal video man… I haven’t even started it yet and I’m intrigued

Shaq had to deal with David Robinson and Tim Duncan in those head to head series along with the mind of Pop.

I’d be interested in hearing a case for the 2000s being the “Shaq and Kobe Era” 3 chips together and 1 each on their own in that decade. An MVP each. Kobe and Duncan holds up though. And Jonny’s light years ahead of me on basketball knowledge and history.

It's interesting to me that the eras are pretty well split along the decade lines when there's no real reason for that to happen, but I also feel like this decade format hurts players that came in mid-decade and dominated for ten years like Shaq. Are there other players whose ten year peak didn't correlate with a particular decade, and instead spanned two decades?

Awesome video, you are spot on. Well done sir.

2010s are definitely the Lebron era 8 straight finals in a decade, also head to head matchups in the playoffs, really? 2 of the top 3 players had to team up to take him down.

Timmy and the Spurs, as well as the GS should be up for consideration.

Even if you look at the pictures of the eras, you can see that Curry is missing from the Lebron era, but he is in the modern era, idk about you guys but that Curry picture just doesnt seem right cuz those guys are from the modern era compared to Curry

Love your Vids Jonny but I need to say its still the Bron era. He went to 8 straight finals winning only 3 but in 7 out of the 8 finals he still was the best player on the court while Curry went to 4 winning 3 but with 0 Fmvps and got outplayed by Bron almost every series.

It's kind of fun when someone with a platform echoes the same ideas I've had. I've been calling it the Tim and Kobe era and the Steph and LeBron era for a week now.

Kobe was a great player but stats have to be put in context and thx to playing w Shaq he faced less double coverage than any other all time scorer. Shaq and big men get underrated over time cuz of the media's love for perimeter players

loving the blast of content lately!

The Kobe and Duncan era?! I LOVE IT

I don't think only championships define the whole era. I think we should also take into account all the other aspects of the game since there are so many factors that go into a championship that are out of players control such as injuries, superteams, etc. So wilt/Russell should share their era I think

Respectfully, I don’t think you can call the Lakers with Shaq “Kobe’s Lakers”. Kobe was still arguably like the 2nd or 3rd best player in that era, Shaq was clearly the leader and greater player. Also over the entire decade, Duncan was always in the playoffs and winning at least 50 games while Kobe without Shaq did miss the playoffs or got bounced round 1.

I can't dispute anything you said. That was a spot on analysis!

Wow brother. Everything you said about the era's you're right. Love this.

Shaq definitely makes an argument for the 2000s

The modern era should be the international era because the international guys about to run these next 10 years with Jokic Giannis Embiid Luka and even Wemby possibly

Used to not like this man’s videos but as I started paying more attention to his words and his points/ opinions I’ve come to appreciate this man’s videos

Always loved when nba superstars line up next to eachother all different jerseys , look like dam power rangers , super heroes, the thumbnail is 🔥

I would argue Steph curry wasn’t the main guy when winning most of his championships because he had KD on those teams. It would be different if Steph did all he achieved not on such a stacked team but he didn’t

I wouldn't be mad at the Curry inclusion but I'd still call it the LeBron era because at worst he was top 3-5 in each year of that decade including the playoffs. Also, idk if you take video suggestions from subscribers but I think a "Where Would These Legends Rank Without Their Rings" video would be very interesting.

Dope vid Johnny

love it! hope maybe you'll make a dave cowens video, I can't find good videos about him...

Duncan and Curry definitely got disrespected.

You could have mentioned the possibility about it being Shaq's era. In the 2000s, he ties Kobe's ring count and has more finals MVPs. By the trophy case, it's Shaq's era

100% agree with you. Cannot skip over Duncan and Steph

Come on boss when is the podcast coming so the fans can debate with u, u the goat always with the heat!!!! It’s the next step.

Gonna be honest the 2010s is easily the lebron era. 3 MVPs, 3 FMVPs, 8 damn final appearances and the greatest championship of all time with a top 3 finals performance ever. Curry did very well and as well as you can for someone without a SINGLE FMVP.

Your analysis is spot on! There's nothing I would change. Great video!

Jonny is in his bag! It’s like every other day he got a brand new video lol

Another Jonny video, Another Jonny W

The 2000s should be called “Shaq-Duncan-Kobe” Era. It’s beyond the head-to-head matchups. While it’s true the LAL 2000-2003 dominated, the team imploded and a new powerhouse emerged in 2005-2007 SAS (also the team never went below 3rd seed in the whole decade!) Shaq & Kobe had 4 each and Tim had 3. Also let’s not forget the fact Shaq was a dominant superstar too so regardless if Kobe had the better numbers, the oppossing team’s gameplan was always #1 containing Shaq 1st. Arguments against Tim was he played with 3 HoF but let’s not act like HoF Parker/Manu is on the same level as HoF Shaq. You know who you’ll pick between the three 100% of the time. Also, recall Duncan greatest work were on defense.

One glaring fallacy I'd like to point out is that if you're going to count 1999-2000 as part of kobe's era, then you'd have to count the 2019-2020 season as LeBron's era as well. It which puts LeBron at 4 and Steph at 3, and Kobe at 5 and Duncan at 3.

You're spot on. I felt the same thing about last year's game about Kobe, and Steph should get the recognition.

great insights as always johnny! that's what keep us coming back for more! great work mate!

Love this list. I agree that no one player defined the 70s but I would honestly call it "the transitional era" because it felt like the bridge between the 60s and the 80s. The 60s I would actually label "The Celtic Dynasty" era or if you must include Russ' name "The Russel Celtics" era. Yes Russel was the face of that team and its best player but that team was stacked with amazing players and it feels wrong to not somehow recognize that.

So I’m kind of split here because on one hand I completely agree with you. Based on the information provided it makes complete logical Sense that the areas should be labeled as you said it. That being said. I think the real reason why they labeled those era’s that way is because they were going more based on what player defined that error the most or what player was everyone talking about or the media was talking about the most. Like in the 2000s, granted I didn’t watch basketball that much during that time at all but I believe that in terms of what’s covered in the 2000 and they mostly talk about LeBron coming up and Kobe in the Lakers. In the 2010’s They talk a lot about LeBron’s big trade and LeBron needs to win championships or is he ever going to surpass Michael or how does it compare to Michael etc. etc. So ultimately I think your list is more statistically and logically accurate and I think their list is kind of more based on who was the leading narrative drive during this era

The 2010s argument is a good one, until you bring up finals MVPS, ALL NBA selections , ALL defense selections , All Star appearances, and context to the championships in 15’ and 18’

Sad thing about Lebron to me is that he is not undoubtedly the owner of his era. The era he was given is the Curry-Lebron era. Not simply the Lebron. I understand why Kobe got his own era by himself but I would name it the Kobe-Duncan era

I think the reason they didnt make it LBJ vs Steph era because you also have to include KD as well.

Just goes to show how much marketing alone affects how some people remember (or want to remember) certain eras, even though facts show Duncan was right there with Kobe and Curry was right there with LeBron in those respective decades. I agree with comments here that 2000s should be called the Spurs/Lakers era, to be more inclusive to Shaq who was a 3x FMVP.

Man 2k knew that steph shit was fluky for real!! And love the the channel brody been listening for years keep it up!!

Arnett is just the best basketball analyst. Thanks for doing it man.

I agree with all your eras, but much like you showed Jordan’s personal accomplishments to separate him from Hakeem, I wish you would of compared Duncan v Kobe’s best personal accolades in the 2000s to close the gap: MVPs- Duncan 2 v Kobe 1 *Duncan 2-1 overall Finals MVPs- Duncan 2 v Kobe 1 *Duncan 3-2 overall While not as flashy as the Mamba, the Big Fundamental deserves his flowers 💐

Mikan Era ✅ the Babe Ruth of basketball Russell Era ❌ I think even Russell would've preferred the Celtics Era I agree about the 70s, except I would call it the The Big Man Era (to acknowledge the depth of talent at center) or The Style Era (to acknowledge the influence of Pistol Pete, Dr. J, Earl Monroe, the Skyhook etc) Bird vs Magic Era ✅ or simply The Rivalry Era, as there were many good ones in the 80s, not just Bird and Magic Jordan Era ✅ for better or worse, Jordan defined the 90s Kobe & Duncan Era ❌ The Wild West Era to acknowledge the western conference dominance. Kobe and Duncan were simply not the era-defining stars Bird, Magic and MJ were, also they're not connected the same way Bird & Magic were Lebron & Steph Era ❌ again, there's not that connection/rivalry that Bird & Magic had, so pairing them together is just odd. call it The Decision Era. Lebron gets his acknowledgement, but it's appropriately backhanded. The Modern Era ❌ call it The Global Era, to acknowledge the influence of foreign players (or the decline of American dominance, whichever way you want to frame it)

Great great video 🔥

I feel like part of the reason it was Bird/Magic is because of their legendary rivalry that I don’t think has ever been achieved between two players since. They also were both equally as popular and taking control of the league. In the other eras where you mention Duncan and Steph, while I agree that the stats add up, you gotta ask yourself who in general terms is the “poster child” for each era. Kobe and Lebron’s popularity were at all-time highs during their respective decades, which is why I feel 2k got it pretty spot on

@jonnyarnett I’d want to rename the Lebron era the superteam era, as the 2010s were all about building not only the next superteam but preparing for the chance of a superteam.

I think when you choose to use regular season and finals MVPs as a basis for putting one player ahead vs when you don’t shows all the bias. Bird and Magic have the same amount of MVPs, Kobe and Steph have less than Timmy and Lebron. You should have consistent logic throughout all cases so it would be less biased.

I completely agree 👍 you Jonny. The 2000's were definitely the Bryant and Duncan era. Loved that Magic and Bird era as a kid. Also a big fan of the Jordan era. The modern era😂

They're not saying "the 2010's: LeBron era" they were saying this era is marked by LeBron. They should have either done a LeBron/Curry era or a LeBron and then Curry era.

Magic and bird and Timmy and Kobe aren’t at all like Bron and Steph. Bron was clearly better than Steph in every matchup and KD, even according to YOUR finals mvp video, was outplaying Steph when it mattered. It’s the Bron and Warriors era, be fr

I am certain it will be Giannis or Jokic era 10 years from now. The 2020s have been mostly great for both of them. Luka has a huge shot to take over, just like Tatum but these 2 are above everyone else, even though I think Jokic will have better longevity due to relying on skill and not athleticism

Playing 2k in a 1950’s arena would be so cool

Thank you Jonny!