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Why 18g Doesn't Fit in Your Espresso Basket! 

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Help! Why doesn't my espresso portafilter / basket fit 18 grams of coffee!?!? In this video, we cover that exact topic to explain why you aren't able to fit the "standard" 18g dose of espresso into your portafilter without it overflowing. Spoiler alert, it isn't your fault OR the machine's fault, and you'll fully understand why by the end of this video!
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0:00 - Espresso Baskets
0:48 - Reason 1
1:29 - Reason 2
2:24 - Not willing to sacrifice?
3:07 - Conclusion

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@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
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@wangouthangout
@wangouthangout 6 месяцев назад
If you buy a dosing ring and a WDT tool you can fit the right amount in more easily. The right dose in any basket is usually a bit higher than the top loose. 1) Put dosing ring in portafilter, 2) grind coffee into portafilter, 3) stir a little with WDT, 4) bang on something a couple times to settle grounds. The grounds should be under the level of the basket rim now and less likely to spill all over the place.
@mikeh2613
@mikeh2613 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree, wouldn’t be without my dosing funnel bought after a few attempts and waste of good coffee. I have a Barista Pro and while it’s a very good machine nobody ever explained this issue when I purchased it causing me to lose large amounts of coffee, not to mention dialling in 😅
@CalebsCars
@CalebsCars 6 месяцев назад
😂 you’re missing the entire point of this video. 18g with a ring can still overflow a basket
@wangouthangout
@wangouthangout 6 месяцев назад
@@CalebsCars no. I get his point. The level of roast and grind size totally does affect how high the grounds pile up. My advice was supplemental if anything.
@msdixie1972
@msdixie1972 5 месяцев назад
@@mikeh2613same lol
@karlkrasnowsky3895
@karlkrasnowsky3895 4 месяца назад
How does a wdt aid in not overflowing the basket?
@omzzy005
@omzzy005 5 месяцев назад
that was the best 3 minute i invested in watching a video to explain something that is never covered making espresso videos... thnks
@romangreer2607
@romangreer2607 7 месяцев назад
It is crazy how complicated it can all seem. I am almost 2 years into espresso now and I was so frustrated I almost gave up. It’s so worth it to do your homework and don’t be afraid to experiment and break “rules” to get that good first cup
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 5 месяцев назад
Heck yeah, when you are starting just don't worry about this kind of things, how fine is the grain is not gonna be that important when you are still getting used to the espresso workflow. Just have fun and make a coffee that you can enjoy, everything else should come AFTER that
@thiagob.6412
@thiagob.6412 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing knowledge! It's the first time after 2 years watching videos about specialty coffees that I hear about darker roasts being so much less dense. Makes total sense.
@andrewmontigue2810
@andrewmontigue2810 7 месяцев назад
Went crazy the first day trying to figure this exact issue out. Great video makes me feel less crazy. Thank you
@sameerchitley6968
@sameerchitley6968 5 месяцев назад
Had to figure this out myself through trial and error, and wished there was a resource like this online to explain it when I bought my machine a year and a half ago. Thanks for uploading!
@ThezRude
@ThezRude 6 месяцев назад
This was actually really simply and well explained. And quite informational.
@hallyhop
@hallyhop 13 дней назад
Thank you so much for this! I've been super confused and this was very straightforward
@cissy2194
@cissy2194 6 месяцев назад
Finally!!! This was the simplest explanation I’ve found! Thank you!
@chunri1626
@chunri1626 6 месяцев назад
My goodness where were you a year ago to explain this so simply! Thank you
@JRE-ut2tb
@JRE-ut2tb 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for making this video. It all makes that much more sense now. I noticed the difference as soon as I adjusted the grind size.👍🏼
@casaraku1
@casaraku1 2 месяца назад
Watch many videos on espresso and this is the first time i have noticed this aspect. Thanks.
@laurenzr.8524
@laurenzr.8524 6 месяцев назад
Great Video. Thanks for clearing things up!
@Tass...
@Tass... 7 месяцев назад
I use the IMS B62.52TH26E for my Breville (54mm) and for the perfect amount it's 19gr of light roast, 18gr of medium roast and 17gr of dark roast. This also allows for my Puck screen and it not being overfilled. Without using a Puck screen you could add 1gr to each of the roast types. If you want 18gr or more of dark roast (and a Puck screen) then you would want the 28E model.
@user-yr2mx9mn1j
@user-yr2mx9mn1j 5 месяцев назад
Thanks 4 the info / help;)
@Intentional_soundscapes13
@Intentional_soundscapes13 4 месяца назад
Thank you, this was very helpful. I just ordered the 28E ims basket.
@WaterKing9
@WaterKing9 6 месяцев назад
I got a drop down extender for my portafilter and it fixed the issue for me. I love it :)
@stoic1024
@stoic1024 7 месяцев назад
Very nice video, as always. I really enjoy your content. Thanks.
@TheFuzzyskwerl
@TheFuzzyskwerl 6 месяцев назад
Love these types of videos.
@kurtkesslinger7917
@kurtkesslinger7917 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video, learned a lot.
@bored_pyro
@bored_pyro 7 месяцев назад
Super timely! Thanks brother!
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Glad it was useful!
@coulomjo
@coulomjo 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for explaining this! I also have the Barista Pro and was wondering why 18g would barely fit my basket!
@InTimeTraveller
@InTimeTraveller 7 месяцев назад
Worth noting is also that the 18g dosage is usually a "standard" for 58mm portafilters and the Breville machines use a 54mm portafilter. It might also be that the default basket that Breville ships with the machine is not rated for 18g but for 16 or sth.
@impulsesystems
@impulsesystems 6 месяцев назад
Great video, thanks! I mix a dark roasted bean with a medium roasted bean. Weighing 50g of each will show you the difference in density, as the medium contains more moisture and oil. You can then adjust your bean ratio to taste. I only use about 14g of the ground mixture for espresso.
@Reefrugab
@Reefrugab 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video!!! 👏🏻 Im a beginner and this is a Good information for me
@sjorlando7282
@sjorlando7282 6 месяцев назад
Following what Tass said I myself use the 24E in my BBE.- I found I can do 18Gr consistently except light roasts but dont often pull them. Also I use a 1mm puck screen - they come in 1mm and 1.7mm. Also modded my grinder with a different adjustment wheel - more range. IMS baskets are the way to go for Breville machines
@MyHam-os4bq
@MyHam-os4bq 6 месяцев назад
I’m so glad you forced me to allow you to explain. Never realized using a darker roast sometimes was the issue. Kind of embarrassed I’ve gone this long not knowing…
@FaithAndCoffeeBean
@FaithAndCoffeeBean 4 месяца назад
Great video !!!!😎☕️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@kiltedpiper98
@kiltedpiper98 7 месяцев назад
I use a porta-filter extension. Allows a bit more grounds, space to WDT then when I compress everything fits just fine and tastes great.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Great way to avoid mess! But still can’t change the capacity of the actual basket. Can also consider a dosing cup workflow :)
@Kiaulen
@Kiaulen 7 месяцев назад
I wish I'd seen this video about 5 years ago when I started trying to do espresso. Those narrow 53mm Breville baskets just don't have a lot of room on top for the coffee to pile up. Something else that's helped me is getting a 53mm catch/dosing cup. I got a lovely one from Crema Coffee that can slide into the grinder and has a tab at the back to push it. It's also a lot easier to balance on a small scale than portafilters. Granted, it now sits under my Niche Zero, but I think most people buying a breville machine with a built in grinder (like my Barista Express) aren't going to use an external one, at least starting out.
@TechforSenior
@TechforSenior 6 месяцев назад
Great video. Thanks
@polloman29
@polloman29 6 месяцев назад
This was driving me absolutelz crazy. Thanks.
@rossyhead69
@rossyhead69 7 месяцев назад
Got a bambino+ just before Xmas and have had to go down to 10second grind amount on the SGP so it fits. That’s with grind size of 12 because anything smaller was struggling to get anything out the other side. Coffee tastes good though, will tweak in the new year!
@Matt_H_26
@Matt_H_26 7 месяцев назад
The taste is what is important. So many rules have been made up as to how coffee should be made, but they are only guides. For my Breville machine I usually grind 11-12 and get around 14-15 grams. The better the beans, the better the taste.
@georgew8586
@georgew8586 7 месяцев назад
Having done research before I purchased my breville, I realized it would take a while to make sure I had medium roast (my preference), that was not too bitter, the puck was not to dry, the pressure look correct and there was crema, on the top of the pour. Yeah it was frustrating, dial up the grind #, what about adjusting the burr grind #. I think it’s dialed in now, not too bitter, enjoy a morning brew. I still have my old coffee maker and interesting enough I now realize it’s much more bitter. Next learning to properly foam milk, turned it into curds once 😝. Still work in progress, found I really like oat milk, instead of whole or 2%.
@PonzooonTheGreat
@PonzooonTheGreat 7 месяцев назад
I was dosing as little as 13g for light roasts before I got my IMS basket for my SBP. It was great but it feels good to do 18g.
@machineteacher3573
@machineteacher3573 5 месяцев назад
this legend explained everything very simply, shortly, calmly, giving visual examples. IN UNDER 5 MINUTES!. you really got me subscribed from the first video :)
@marcbaldwin1887
@marcbaldwin1887 7 месяцев назад
This was super helpful! I have a cheap DeLonghi espresso machine that uses a 51mm basket. I got a bottomless filter for it but have been having trouble getting 18g to fit in the basket. I know that darker roasts have less caffeine because of the roasting time, but it makes so much sense that darker roasts are less dense!
@JRE-ut2tb
@JRE-ut2tb 6 месяцев назад
Apparently according to James Hoffman on one of his YT vids I remember watching, darker roasts have more caffeine as they are less dense so one can extract more from them. I’m not an expert though.
@MellisaN.Santos
@MellisaN.Santos 5 месяцев назад
How many gram can you fit? I have the same model and problem
@marcbaldwin1887
@marcbaldwin1887 4 месяца назад
@@JRE-ut2tb Actually lighter roasts have more caffeine because the highest level of caffeine is in a green, unroasted coffee been. The less you roast, the more of that caffeine that stays in the bean. However, darker roasts have a more bitter, classic coffee taste and so it makes for good espresso.
@marcbaldwin1887
@marcbaldwin1887 4 месяца назад
@@MellisaN.Santos I can probably only realistically fit 16g of dark roast into my machine. I recommend using a medium roast for the 51mm DeLonghi portafilters. Currently, I’m blending a light and dark roast and using 18g, which has been working pretty well. This also allows me to use a puck screen to keep my machine clean. I couldn’t use a puck screen with 18g of dark roast at all.
@JRE-ut2tb
@JRE-ut2tb 4 месяца назад
@@marcbaldwin1887true. What I should have wrote is that darker roast coffees have more caffeine than lighter roasts due to their higher solubility during extraction according to James Hoffman. 👍
6 месяцев назад
I had the opposite problem with my Lelit and after tamping it seemed to me that the distance to the brew group was too great, so I switched to an alternative basket with only 16g and now 18g fits better.
@ex0ja
@ex0ja 7 месяцев назад
I have a 15g VST basket for my Breville Oracle but I have to use at least 20g or I get a muddy puck (no matter which grind size or bean I use). Would like a nice puck simply to make the process a bit cleaner.
@ruimoura
@ruimoura 7 месяцев назад
I have that exact machine, and have struggled with that exact problem. Nicely explained, clean and simple. New subscriber :) My ideal dose for the beans i use is 17g, and that allows me to use the puck filter to keep things clean
@JRE-ut2tb
@JRE-ut2tb 6 месяцев назад
I also bought a dosing ring that sits atop the porta-filler however I cheaped out and didnt get the one with the magnets so already kicking myself as have knocked it off a few times spilling ground coffee everywhere lol. If you don’t yet have a dosing ring or funnel buy one with magnets. 👍🏼
@TheRealSamuiWebcam
@TheRealSamuiWebcam 6 месяцев назад
I use a 21g basket with my La Marzocco so I can fit a puck screen in as well. I love dark roasts. 20g in 40g out in 30 seconds. Perfect.
@SebastianCristanchoYT
@SebastianCristanchoYT 6 месяцев назад
Thank you
@twenisix
@twenisix 7 месяцев назад
Thank you indeed ✌
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for tuning in!
@RakanWD
@RakanWD 7 месяцев назад
let's go, new video
@leondennis4659
@leondennis4659 7 месяцев назад
I like to drink different types of coffee so I just use the pressurized filter basket.
@KevinvanDiest
@KevinvanDiest 7 месяцев назад
thx, great info. Didn't know this before ...so there's a weight difference between light and dark roast ;)
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Density difference ;) 18g will always be 18g, but 1 basket will not always equal 1 basket
@robwhitmore3040
@robwhitmore3040 6 месяцев назад
Yep. Bought a Picopresso and struggled to get a good extraction following advice online. Everyone was saying 18g, but for me and the light roasted beans I'm using, it was more like 20.5g and now it's perfect. This should be talked about more often because dark roasts are boring. Couldn't tell you how much my Barista Express doses. I should check
@HaikuGhost
@HaikuGhost 6 месяцев назад
Shoutout De Mello, I'd recognize that bag anywhere. Top tier roasters 🤘
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely! We have a collaboration blend with them :)
@nickverhoeven3913
@nickverhoeven3913 7 месяцев назад
AHA!! Thank you! I had a bag of supermarket beans for whenever people were visiting that felt my personal coffee was too acidic for their taste, I never understood why I was always fiddling with it overflowing and using a lower dose, bean density it is. Noticed you were mentioned in a recent James Hoffmann video, well done!
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yes, that sneaky little mention by James was neat to hear
@AndyWoodger
@AndyWoodger 7 месяцев назад
@@LifestyleLab_Having watched a lot of coffee videos I have found James Hoffman to be one of the easiest to understand. He is fun, informative and a great presenter. SO....if he was happy to mention YOU @Lifestylelab you've got yourself another subscriber! Great video, cheers. By the way, I had an issue with a large UK brand about their coffee and they sais exactly what you said regarding flow rate and type of roast.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for tuning in Andy :)
@wyatt8770
@wyatt8770 6 месяцев назад
I keep getting recommend coffee stuff and I don’t even like coffee. But it’s also working because I keep watching
@NoZenith
@NoZenith 5 месяцев назад
I was just trying to explain this to my friend who is just getting into the idea of buying an espresso machine. I was trying to explain how different brands and different machines have different depth switch the shower screen pokes down into the portafilter basket and that being the headspace being more important than the actual grams of coffee in the basket so to look at it as a volumetric issue not particularly weight-based depending on the roast level of your beans. For example, I consistently dose 18.5 G of Panther 1985 ground through a Niche Zero in my Breville Bambino dual basket with the Breville razor tool just barely grazing top of it and the perfect headspace. Half a gram less and there's always water sitting on top of my puck, anymore and you can see the screw mark from the shower screen in the middle of the puck. The medium roast from Cuvee I had last I could barely get 18 G in the basket cuz the razor tool is always scraping a bit off. I only used that tool as a gauge until I figure out the weight of beans I need when I change beans and it's super handy
@jamesmclaughlin3460
@jamesmclaughlin3460 7 месяцев назад
Great video
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Thanks James :)
@jamesmclaughlin3460
@jamesmclaughlin3460 7 месяцев назад
@@LifestyleLab_ I'm trying to get more consistent. I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. Retired love coffee so I'm having fun. But I do chase that perfect shot.
@michaelerbreviews
@michaelerbreviews 6 месяцев назад
You approached this but didn't specifically say this. Some off-brand espresso machines simply come with smaller double baskets that can only be filled with about 15 grams of coffee.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Also true! At the end of the day, volume is volume. No getting around that
@AdamKlingenberger
@AdamKlingenberger 7 месяцев назад
I usually updose for light roasts due to reason 2. E.g. 20g coffee for the same target ratio&time I’d do for a medium roast. The light roasts retain more water and cellulose that wasn’t roasted out. So updosing ensures consistent total soluble coffee in the portafilter.
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 7 месяцев назад
It does help if your grinder doesn't go fine enough
@AdamKlingenberger
@AdamKlingenberger 7 месяцев назад
@@Cenot4ph sometimes. You can only push extraction so far. People should be thinking in terms of soluble mass, not the mass of the whole bean. Which of course you can’t casually measure, but as general principle, an equal mass of light roast has less solubles to extract than an equal mass of dark roast, because the dark roast is drier and has been partially burned off as CO2.
@lazyPawdy
@lazyPawdy 5 месяцев назад
My solution to this is basically just use a bigger portable basket. I’ve found out that 1click difference from my current grinder would choke my machine.
@droelf-dg2qj
@droelf-dg2qj 6 месяцев назад
Got the Barista Pro for 2 years now Dont try to squeeze 18g in your 54mm basket I usually go for 16g and it tastes 10/10 with a decent coffee. If you do the math, it's around 15,8g to get the same height of coffee as the 58mm baskets with 18g. Since you want the equivalent of contact time of water and coffee. Also remember to never fill the bean basket to the max or they dry out after 2 or more days.
@m1tab
@m1tab 7 месяцев назад
Ok thanks for the video, very useful. So what is the correct dosing ratio?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
That will depend on your coffee and personal preferences :) A “traditional” ratio you’ll hear is 1:2 (18g coffee in > 36g espresso out) but this won’t necessarily be best for you or you coffee choice. Dial in to taste!
@andreytravkin7579
@andreytravkin7579 5 месяцев назад
Hey! I really enjoy your reviews! Can you please suggest a grinder which can do both drip coffee and espresso? Somewhere in between $250-$500 maybe even I can go for a bit more expensive if there is a good deal, or some grinder that just head and shoulders above the rest
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 5 месяцев назад
You can consider the Fellow Opus, Baratza Encore ESP, or on the higher end of price point the Turin DF64 Gen2. All great options that can do both filter and espresso quite well
@andrewallen4796
@andrewallen4796 4 месяца назад
How come we can watch hours upon hours of videos, everything gets repeated and still nothing really adds up so we just end up eyeballing it. Then in just under 4 minutes it makes sense. Great video, I've been having good coffee so far, but I've been missing out on great coffee.
@aoalr
@aoalr 7 месяцев назад
Funny for you to post this today. This morning, I ordered a new 20g VST basket since dosing 17g in my current 18g basket dents the puck with the grouphead diffuser, since I also have filter paper in the bottom. I refuse to dose down further so I’m glad I could finally dose back to 18g
@mikeh2613
@mikeh2613 6 месяцев назад
The easiest solution, as someone has already mentioned, is a dosing ring which I would not be without. I would also recommend using a WTD tool to stir the coffee, then whilst still using the dosing ring just lower the tamper. This flattens the coffee so that when the dosing ring is removed there is no spillage. I then use a coffee distributor to level it and then tamp. Sounds complicated but isn’t.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely a great method that I also highly recommend! But it does not change the capacity of the basket, which is the primary topic of this video
@mikeh2613
@mikeh2613 6 месяцев назад
@@LifestyleLab_ thanks, I take on board what you are saying 👍
@JezzaTheChamp
@JezzaTheChamp 7 месяцев назад
It fits just fine.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video
@stephanetzicuris3376
@stephanetzicuris3376 6 месяцев назад
sorry i dont recognise the portafilter in your link could you tell me wich one it is on the linkedpage please?
@tjh7117
@tjh7117 6 месяцев назад
Untamped coffee can overflow even when it fits the portafilter well after tamping. Get a dosing funnel if your still have trouble after dialling in the grind
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
You are right, but we’re talking about the final capacity of the basket
@HarakuneSan
@HarakuneSan 6 месяцев назад
Bro, I dont even like coffe but I watch soo many james hoffman videos that I get recommendations for other channels xD
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Time to start ;)
@CoffeeJake
@CoffeeJake 6 месяцев назад
I feel like the stock Breville basket is more like a 15-17g basket. I got an 18g IMS and it fits way more of the same grind.
@gabbero7507
@gabbero7507 6 месяцев назад
Thanks man, this overflowing basket gave me hell
@enricocasella5539
@enricocasella5539 6 месяцев назад
i find that just having for example 16g of coffee and 32ml of extraction works just as fine. especially if you worked hard to tune the coffee to how you like it
@macster1000
@macster1000 7 месяцев назад
Ah. I learned something :-)
@cyberjoe77
@cyberjoe77 7 месяцев назад
Now I know YT is listening in…just got this same machine and was banging my head …saying “there’s no way 18 grams fits in here!” So thank you!🙏
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Bless the algorithm
@jose09841
@jose09841 4 месяца назад
I usually get 20grams in my portafilter after dosing I wonder if I have a 22g basket. My ratio is 1:2 so 20g in and 40g out in about 26 seconds and no channeling just a perfect pull each time!
@goggo9
@goggo9 6 месяцев назад
Maybe not a useful info to everyone but classic Italian espresso is made with 7 grams of coffee. I have a Dedica and I am currently using the 51mm, 7gr, filter for the europiccola and it works great. Make sure you get beans that are fit for this purpose. I am now using a Passalacqua blend then I’ll try some Salimbene and Kenon next.
@babayega1717
@babayega1717 5 месяцев назад
* Classic Italian espresso *shot* . Double shot =14 grams, triple shot (what you use to incorporate in coffee drinks) is 21-22grams.
@goggo9
@goggo9 5 месяцев назад
@@babayega1717 it’s just math, right?
@thumbtak123
@thumbtak123 7 месяцев назад
Something you forgot to mention is that you can get a device to extend the size of the basket. It attaches to the top. This is what I do, but it is only for a tiny bit that goes over the topic.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
That is a dosing funnel, it does not change the capacity of the basket, it simply helps with mess when grinding. Can also use a dosing up :) but neither are relevant to this particular topic
@thumbtak123
@thumbtak123 7 месяцев назад
@@LifestyleLab_ Oh. I thought it was about ways to make the dosing cleaner, and to fix issues. My mistake.
@dennisfeldman56
@dennisfeldman56 6 месяцев назад
I also use a magnetic extension ring for the grind to prevent overflow. Tamp it down and done 18g fits fine and no mess. So I guess it is relevant 😊
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
@dennisfeldman56 Again, it’s a great workflow! But it’s not changing the capacity of the basket
@thumbtak123
@thumbtak123 6 месяцев назад
@@LifestyleLab_ agreed. It saves on waste.
@BusyAngel9999
@BusyAngel9999 7 месяцев назад
I have the bambino plus, should I change the filter top? Saw on Amazon ims one, don’t know if it makes flavor better…
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Take a look at this :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-58WWDyZjXVM.html
@chrismccannIRL
@chrismccannIRL 7 месяцев назад
Something I’ve noticed lately and wouldn’t mind your thoughts. I tend to only do medium or light freshly roasted beans. I’ve my eureka Mignon set to a general espresso range however it seems the smaller the bean size I find I have to go a few steps coarser than a larger bean which tends to require a finer grind. Does bean size come into it as I’ve never noticed anyone mention that before? Cheers and happy Christmas
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Great observation! This has to do with the varietal of bean itself. Beans grown at higher elevations, are typically smaller and more dense than those grown close to sea level. This not only plays a role in how much can fit in the same sized basket, but also impacts the flow rate through the puck as you’re discovering
@chrismccannIRL
@chrismccannIRL 7 месяцев назад
@@LifestyleLab_ brilliant thanks mate. As a rule of thumb now I tend to move my setting slightly more coarse to dial in the smaller beans. Means less waste for me. Move it back again towards the larger beans.
@malulsos
@malulsos 6 месяцев назад
Maybe it's because I'm from Melbourne Australia and we have some of the best coffee in the world but I have never seen espresso roasts defaulting to dark, theyre normally medium in my experience
@rxonmymind8362
@rxonmymind8362 4 месяца назад
Choke my espresso machine? NEVER. I bought one with 200 bars of pressure. I will absolutely Crush those espresso grinds until I hear it squeal.😂
@maurimarcos
@maurimarcos 7 месяцев назад
Hello. Can you tell me if it happens something if i have a lot of space in the top ? Or its a good idea to buy the bigger one and have medium coffe 18 gr shots whith a lot of space, so that i never have to adjust the dose even gringring coarser or finer.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Having space on top will let water pool there and you will have a very soggy puck to knock out. It’s best to just dose properly for the basket size
@Kazoom28
@Kazoom28 6 месяцев назад
My actual experience is the opposite, Fine grind size creates more volume initially. Coarse grind size will take up less space initially but will take up more volume than fine grind when compacted.
@bene20080
@bene20080 6 месяцев назад
I put some of the grounds in, then compress, put the rest of the grounds in, then compress again. With that solution, it fits.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
If that makes it fit, then you could consider a dosing cup or dosing funnel for a much cleaner workflow. This video, however, is an explanation for when 18g cannot fit no-matter the method
@youtubewts
@youtubewts 6 месяцев назад
You haven't touched on the fact the coffee grounds can be mixed with a lot of air so can benefit from grinding in to a dosing cup on top of the portafilter, the portafilter being tapped on the side to allow it to settle and the use of a distribution tool before then tamping.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
The capacity of a basket is how much it fits AFTER tamping. So no-matter how you get the grounds into the basket, it doesn’t change the fact that you won’t be able to tamp in 18g of certain coffees
@jose09841
@jose09841 4 месяца назад
Anybody have advice on what to do with the overflow coffee grounds?? I hate to throw away the excess but I also don't know if there is a way to preserve the freshness of ground beans or if its even worth storing them for later.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 4 месяца назад
You shouldn't have to throw any out, just grind less :)
@CH-yp5by
@CH-yp5by 6 месяцев назад
Simple do not follow an 18g dose, drop down a gram or two and the brew ratio should be a smaller yield for a sweeter shot. E.g 17g in 28g out
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
This was said in the video, yes
@qwertz12986
@qwertz12986 3 месяца назад
hey, i am looking for a better basket for my sage dual boiler. i got the normcore bottomless portafilter but think the basket of it could be improved. i found the big bang ones. could you please recommend me a matching one or tell me if it will truly make an improvement?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 3 месяца назад
I would recommend anything from IMS or VST
@ejc2064
@ejc2064 6 месяцев назад
measure to taste not what some you tuber says I use dark roast and measure 16.69 and thats perfect for my machine, basket and taste everyone loves it. But I spend a good 3-6 brews to dial that in at first. Before when i had a different grinder and machine it was a different weight and grind size do what works for you.
@richhelsing
@richhelsing 6 месяцев назад
Hi, i am pulling good espresso shots when the inner burr setting of my Breville Barista Pro is at 5 and the knot setting outside is at 6 ~ 7. If I set burr to finer, perhaps a 4, how much would you recommend I up my knot setting? Thanks
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Upper Burr vs Outer Dial Grind Setting | Breville Barista ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_uB3FZGkR6E.html
@tezzanewton
@tezzanewton 7 месяцев назад
Getting a Lelit heat exchange machine forced me to become better at espresso.
@thearabkobe9218
@thearabkobe9218 7 месяцев назад
Please help! I only use dark roasts. So if I been having issues with 18g, and now experimenting with 16g…. Does it still need to be 32g (1:2 ratio) of output in 30-35 seconds ? Or does the time change as well? Of course as a regular benchmark rule.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Once you’re in the ballpark just start tasting. There’s no “right” answer. But generally, the brew ratio would stay the same 1:2 and same with the time
@Icipher4
@Icipher4 7 месяцев назад
I have a Breville Bambino Plus with a bottomless portafilter. Should I get the nanotech or the big bang?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
For the 54mm Breville I’d go Big Bang. Helps with edge channeling
@RedsareRoses
@RedsareRoses 5 месяцев назад
I was wondering why this was happening I’ve been using Starbucks, espresso beans, dark roast. to the point where I got frustrated and stop using the machine.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 5 месяцев назад
Those are SUPER dark. Like 14g dose dark
@MrArravelo
@MrArravelo 5 месяцев назад
When you are talking about 18gm, is this on the double basket or the single?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 5 месяцев назад
Double basket
@krisn115
@krisn115 7 месяцев назад
That’s exactly what I am having troubles with my barista pro! I use Peet’s dark roast coffee beans. I have already adjusted my burr size to 5 and the grind size all the way to 1, but 18g still wayyy off from fitting in the double shot basket..🤦🏻‍♀️ Do you think I should go even finer?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Nope! Your issue is mainly reason 2. Down dose, or use a lighter (and preferably fresher) coffee :)
@krisn115
@krisn115 7 месяцев назад
​@@LifestyleLab_ Thank you so much for your feedback! Will definitely be trying that. I want to let you know that I truly appreciate you and your channel. Your videos have helped me a lot with troubleshooting and making purchase decisions! :D
@KaiAndLily
@KaiAndLily 6 месяцев назад
Hi, I'm using the Breville BES920 (Dual Boiler), but I'm having trouble consistently extracting 40ml in 35 seconds at 9 bars. The time extends well beyond 35 seconds. If I adjust the grind coarser, the pressure drops. Is it because my machine's original factory has revised the vibration pump, limiting it to a maximum of 9 bars? What should I do?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
You can’t taste pressure. Run the shot how it flows and tastes best for that coffee. 9 bar will be the absolute maximum pressure with a blind basket in place, and flow will then have slightly lower pressure. That’s just physics, check out my video on flow control
@AdamStranberg
@AdamStranberg 7 месяцев назад
Anything wrong with just using a funnel? When it tamps its good, and doesn't hit the screen.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Nothing wrong with that, but this video is for those who can’t fit 18g EVEN when tamping. It can be not even close to fitting sometimes
@adrianfennell3680
@adrianfennell3680 Месяц назад
Is there any way to get a triple shot basket for gaggia Espresso deluxe which has a 53mm portafilter? It'd need to be deeper as I assume the diameter can't be changed. I've looked online and can't find anything... The max I can get in is 14 g.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ Месяц назад
If it fits the same baskets as the 53/54mm Breville's then yes. But if it's some proprietary Gaggia size then likely not
@DrAmnesia
@DrAmnesia 6 месяцев назад
Yes, grindsize matters... But! The most important thing is basket diameter and basket height. Don't expect to fit 18 grams of coffee in a standard 51mm (delonghi) basket.
@2skiwme
@2skiwme 6 месяцев назад
Don’t Breville have 54 diameter size portafilter while all E61 brew group have 58. I believe that this is the primary factor explaining the overflowing.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
That is A factor, but as you can see in this video, absolutely not the only factor :) Many coffees, I can fit 20g even in a 54mm basket
@tammymeese4518
@tammymeese4518 5 месяцев назад
I have this same machine it's been over a year and I am just giving up. It's so frustrating.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 5 месяцев назад
What’s frustrating you?
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw 6 месяцев назад
What about the portafilter size 58mm vs a 51mm
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Volume is volume whether it’s wider and shallower or narrower and deeper, a certain amount of coffee can only fit in it, described by the variables here
@ggivensjr
@ggivensjr 6 месяцев назад
You mention "brew ratio". Is brew ratio the volume of water going through portafiltet?
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Brew ratio is the weight of the dose (coffee grounds) vs the weight of the final espresso in the cup.
@liguy181
@liguy181 6 месяцев назад
I'm pulling beautiful shots when I use 18g of lighter roasted beans, but I'm not getting the same with darker roasts. I've been fitting about 16g into my portafilter, and I notice that the little pressure gauge is lower than when I use light roasts. This is making me think maybe I'm not tamping hard enough (though again, I don't have this issue with light roasts)
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 6 месяцев назад
Tamping shouldn’t be used to adjust shot flow. If you’re flowing too fast, grind finer :)
@BurakCalik
@BurakCalik 7 месяцев назад
I always prefer very dark roast because otherwise its too acidic to drink.
@LifestyleLab_
@LifestyleLab_ 7 месяцев назад
Lighter roasts generally benefit from a higher brew temperature, and longer brew ratio to fully extract :) But yes, VERY light roasts can be super challenging for espresso
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