Why A Kungfu Grandpa Would Challenge A Boxer - Behind The Challenge Interview Analysis 

I forgot to translate this part, but many of you asked, so here's what kungfu grandpa has claimed to train: Pao Quan, Beng Quan, and Taijiquan (Tai Chi). More background on this boxer Ma Hai that grandpa challenged. He in 2018 criticized a clip of an mma guy blatantly knocking out a kungfu challenger who didn’t know what he was getting into. I might do a video on that challenge match and Ma Hai’s response in the future. So this boxer Ma Hai definitely has maintained a different approach to dealing with kungfu challengers for many years. I rediscovered Ma Hai recently and searched him up on social media. That’s how I found this recent clip from his gym to analyze. I’ll look for clips of Ma Hai’s matches too. That might be fun to incorporate if we feature Ma Hai or his gym again. After all, we just want to continue making martial arts better and more beneficial to everyone who practices them, and Ma Hai seems to have a good head on his shoulder.

Let’s just say right off the bat, he’s in incredible shape for a 71-year old.

My dad is 71, and he exercises regularly and is in good shape. He’s a pretty traditional athlete, so boxing is the only choice. But I doubt he would step in the ring at his age.

Thank you brother for bring us videos beyond kicks and punches

I understand his desperation. I am non-Chinese, but, I have had elderly KungFu practitioners literally take my interest as hope and beg me to learn. Their rationale is almost always a form of, “One day our own children will have to go and learn our own martial culture from outsiders.” They’ll preserve it by any means, whether that’s teaching a foreigner all that they know, or fighting a challenge match for it’s honor at 72 years old. Even going so far as to adopt a foreigner and give them their family name. Every culture and sub-culture seems it goes through this, much like the birth rate thing. As the children start being more interested in things that make money (engineering, medicine, IT, etc) more than the old culture, or interested in popular things (MMA, Boxing) or just things with more visiblity and resources (Karate, TKD). Even HipHop culture is going through this and it’s barely 50 years old…

Respect to the gym owner to sit him down and talk to him first.

That’s a humane gym, respect

Respect to that elder for keeping himself in shape

This was very insightful my man!

I appreciate his physique and his encouragement for culture to survive. However, kung fu needs modern adaptations in order to become effective. Modern interpretations, such as jeet kun do, shuai jiao, and sanda, are all effective Kung fu forms. I don’t want to say more about this rabbit hole. 🕳️ But the old man needs to be an example of health and wellbeing, rather than challenging someone to hit him because he’s “bulletproof” or so. 1) it is disrespecting elders in Chinese culture. Even though there are some elderly people that are rude, it is inappropriate for a young, pro fighter to hurt this man 2) even if you got a trained boxer who is near the old man’s age, it would be very sadistic in the people’s eyes for a gym to host such a fight between kungfu grandpa and boxer grandpa. Perhaps 3 “exceptions” would be that a) both old men are Chinese , b) both old men sign some indemnity form for protection equipment used, throwing in the towel, and not blaming the gym for their choice to fight; c) the owner of the gym is elderly himself and sanctions the fight It is a difficult situation for this old man who wants to challenge a western martial art. I remember the following quote from The Last Samurai: “The ways of the old become one with the new.” The older generation (and even younger generations that are indoctrinated in the old traditions) are stubborn and stuck in their inefficient and ineffective habits against a *modern trained fighter* (ex. Muay Thai, karate, boxing, MMA, a few others, even Sanda) until they apply their kungfu in the real world or adapt it with other martial arts (and they still must spar or fight with it). I remember seeing Jeff Chang fighting a wing chun guy, but the wing chun guy *adapted* his sparring to modern standards to more effectively match Jeff. Rant over , great video.

I don't know how much protection that head guards and body pads give, but I think they should have let grandpa wear them, and slowly increase the power of the shots they give him, a nice easy reality check, while still being responsible and respectful. If an elderly relative, say 60+ wanted to get into martial arts, i would 100% encourage them to do so, I'd probably recommend muay Thai or even Kung Fu. But what I would have to strike home is that no matter how much they train, their reflexs are slower, thier body is slower to recover, and thier body is more fragile, and in no way should they consider themselves a fighter, and that they should just be training to keep their mind and body active.

Jerry your wisdom continues to grow add exponent. And I really love what you do. It gives me real hope and I am grateful for your videos and sentiments.

Akio Fujihira (Kyokushin) vs. Huafai Lukcontai (Muay Thai). 🙏🏽

One of my favorites videos you uploaded so far. Thank you for your work, keep it up! Cheers from Argentina!

Man you really have the 80's Hong Kong Movie Director look down :D Jokes aside, wish you all the best

Check out a South Korean form of MMA called Kyuk Too Ki or Kyeok Tu Gi. It's a mixed of free fighting that combines Taekwondo, K-1 style kickboxing, Yudo (Korean Judo) and wrestling. If I remember correctly, it was developed by a Taekwondo teacher named Koo Pan Hong since 1960s.

Really enjoyed your analysis of the social situation here and how it’s only going to accelerate, particularly in societies with plunging birth rates. Really well done, and unexpected.

YOOOO YOU GOT YOUR BRACES OFF CONGRATS

If a senior person wanted to continue martila arts while being able to defend themselves, id say they should do more flexibility and strength exercises to help their joints and muscles. Besides avoiding injuries, its important to know how to generate power or movements without harming yourself. A lot of kung fu systems advise using spirals or circles in movements because it overcomes inertia and reduces risk of joint injury. As for stamina, thats something they would have to maintain on their own such as cycling or swimming. Reflexes will decline so its important to have good distance and footwork management, and probably learn tactile reflexes. Which is what tai chi push hands helps with, or what wrestling or BJJ helps with. Also if you are going to deal with street altercations, a senior person should learn how to use weapons like a cane or a baton to help them

Shout out to Strength Unknown for covering a senior version of muscle beach. Video can be found on RU-vid.

If my older relative was looking to sign up for martial arts, let's say at the age between 60-70 I'd probably encourage to first take it light and not push themselves. Also really fun video.

Good video. As a former student of Kajukenbo, Tai Chi, and karate, at the venerable age of 74 I admit my glory days are behind me. I'd love to train in boxing but my shoulders don't have a comfortable range of motion any more. I have good memories of the classes I took and friends I made. Currently, I'm just working to stay in shape with weights and simple aerobics. I can still perform a lot of the movements that I learned in the past but I know I'm a lot slower, hence I carry some pepper spray instead of thinking I could still do a spinning back kick.

He’s doing the right thing by exercising both cardio and weights. Resistance training is very important as we age for maintaining bone density as well as functional strength. With his mindset, he could certainly learn some basic striking at least.

Hitting himself with the same punches he was just doing on the bag doesn't mean he can take a hit of any substance.

Good analysis.

I agree with you the man looks great for his age is super fit but the club did the right thing

I would always see someone come in the boxing gym looking for a fight

I'm 44 now so grandpa age is in sight and I have to think about getting old and staying fit. I trained traditional martial arts for some time, also did Muay Thai. Last year, I started to learn Taiji just for the fun of it. I have no need to defend myself against physical attacks and I know that I'm not fit enough to be thrown around or kicked in the head. I lost half a tooth and have injured a few joints in my martial arts journey. If I had someone older than myself wanting to learn martial arts then I would hope they would be grown up enough to not think they'd need to prove themselves. In my age and above, it's about physical fitness, flexibility and the fun that comes from moving the body. In our western world, physical confrontation is not what we have to prevent or prepare for. It's a fight against sedentary lifestyle, not against thugs. Any movement will do and people who think martial arts motivates them should just do it. If someone trained for 30 years and still thinks he has to prove something, I think they do not understand that they already prove their point by being as fit as they are. But we have to dissuade them from trying to prove that they can win against a 30 year old fighter. That's not what they should think they'd have to do. People who take those fights are irresponsible. And people who insist on fighting are delusional. Combine the two and you get the many hilarious fights on the Chinese internet. Respect to this gym that they didn't take the irresponsible path and got a quick laugh out of this man who apparently doesn't know what it really takes to stay alive in a fight.

This is a great video! It's important to realize that nothing exists in a vacuum, not even marital arts. Everything has a cultural context. I don't know if the old guy ever had any Martial arts training, but Iron body training did include hitting various parts of the face and head. I knew a teacher who trained by hitting himself in the eyes and mouth (not recommended!) In any case, I'm surprised they couldn't do a little light sparring with the old guy, although I can understand from the pro's perspective, that's how accidents happen.

I'm 61 with major heart problems and I train hard. My advice is just do the training, learn to box learn some grappling but there's no need to get into full on fights (at any age) unless you are going to be paid very well for it!

Does anyone know if this Ma Hai Long of the Jianquan Taijiquan Association?

He's in great shape for his age. I'd like him to do some light sparring and have fun.

My dad is 68 and I’d advise him to go slow when it comes to learning boxing. Focus on technique and build up progressively

Every street corner in China seems to have exercise apparatus. They are wisely focused on range of motion exercises rather than strength. The old folks will be out there at 5AM everyday. It's an incredibly cheap method of preventative maintenance and must really lower health care costs for the elderly.

My advice is to warm up the knees And be gentle with every other joint Enjoy grandpa, you are a rockstar to me

All populations of the right people are in terrible decline. I like this old man. As far as modern kung fu,I think there is so much lacking vs the old ways . God bless this warrior

Respect for grandpa he has heart ❤️

Absolutely would recommend older people to do it.

After seeing his strikes i think a good tempered young fighter should SPAR with him. I am 56 its hard to see how much speed and power and endurance you loose. and you always wonder. This grandpa is great. But with pads, gloves and medical personnel there why not let him try. The biggest key is his opponent cant try and knock his head off.

Have to say that Grandpa is no ordinary Grandpa! He's looking very fit for his age! I don't think he stands a chance against any of the young guys - But that explains where his confidence is coming from!

He's cool ... I respect the guy and his spirit and ability to look the way he does at 71 , but there's no way he should be fighting in the ring

As for advice. Get a martial art where there is more equality between younger and older. Bjj is a huge example. If you are knolwegeable and have technique, and old guy and smash the younger guys. Stay away from sports like Judo that are hard on the body. I train competitively in Japan for judo and I’m shooting for 2028 Olympics, and my body is being destroyed. Everything hurts, and I can’t imagine an old guy going through even a quarter of this especially with the quality of Judo in the USA which is borderline dangerous 90 percent of the time

I would definitely encourage someone his age to work out! I would encourage them to take supplements too, Because more than anything for the elderly, Their bodies are more depleted than anyone else of the resources they need to keep going. So I think it's very important to replenish those resources so they can keep working out, Keep good energy levels and have an active lifestyle! As for the fight I'd never recommend it, But if they wanted it this much, I'd allow it if the opponent was deliberately going more soft on them, Like 10% of power, And it could be a game of who gets more points with hits rather than an actual fight.

When he hit himself at 1:01 and the guy says 好了好了（ok, ok) is such a typical response from Chinese when you just want someone to stop what they’re doing or end an argument. 😂😂

I would encourage them to practice Tai Chi for health benefits or Xing Yi. Especially mental health which is important to have so their worries don't take a toll on their bodies. I would never encourage a person over 30 to step into a ring if they've never been physical before and absolutely discourage anyone over 40 to enter an arena. There's nothing to prove.

He is in great condition .

Never underestimate the old folk's

71y/o needs to lower his cycle dosage

Grandpa is pretty jacked though.

Equal measures funny and sad 😢 i feel for the guy and his heart seems in the right place but the "boxing" and little girls run had me in stitches poor guy before he has any fights or anyone teaches him boxing please god someone teach him how to run 😂

Glad he didn't fight

My advice would be, remember you aren't 20 any more.

It's too bad that the iron face kung fu skill won't be passed down to the next generation.

woooo

Good thing that he didn’t fight the pro boxer, he has no idea how badly he would get beaten, possibly killed, I have trained in many different styles including two styles of kungfu , I don’t think kungfu is that good of a style.. very weak, this old guy has no skills, it’s obvious that he’s a beginner or he forgot how to strike, he’s in ok shape for his age, I hope he stays in shape and stops trying to fight boxers..

the societies are not more "prosperous". Maybe the GDP went up, but it really doesnt matter what country you go to- ask young people why they dont have kids and cant take care of their parents the answers are gonna be "I dont have any money" and "I dont have any time." People are just constantly working with nothing to show for it. This guy didnt want to "burden" his children- I bet you he's seen their 60hr+ work weeks all to live out of a coffin room with 23 other people.

What are we actually here to watch? The Grandpa? Or you talking?..

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This both awesome and sad at the same time! Yes, it's great that he is getting in shape, but it sucks that he feels that he has to do it because his family can't take care of him!🫤

He could be losing it mentally. This is why we don’t allow people this old to be president….oh wait!

This mentality is exactly the same as the keyboard warrior stubborn.. who claim they can fight and defeat other type of martial arts easily 😂

3:20 that's not really true. One of the reasons for the falling birthrates is the global recession. When the economy's doing well (and the future looks bright), people naturally have kids. The economy was booming when the baby boomers were born. Obviously, there are many other factors as well like the changing culture, technology yes, and life isn't as simple as before, but with every country facing inflation and economic problems (including Japan on the verge of economic collapse), people naturally won't have kids.

One point you brought up about the decline in population which applies to the entire world BUT Technology may have a positive play in this as the Med Bed Technology will be able to allow many to live very long lives as ancient humans could live in the times of Antiquity(Noah and others of this time period) one theory was our appendix not having any useful purpose in our bodies today but it was purported to help facilitate and flush out waste from our system that would extend our lifeline. We’ll have to wait and see if this comes to fruition. Peace and Blessings 👍

I totally agree,I have lost my youth time, when I am young, work is our priority. Now the children have grown up and I am almost 65 years old, I also a grandpa now. In order not to make my health as a burden for my children in the future. I started training myself for the pass eight years . Make exercises as part of my daily life. Below is my 8 years workout anniversary “Let work together " ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kTvM64YLq0c.htmlfeature=shared