That comment regarding the KJ-500 is more important than it sounds He suggested that KJ-500 and the PL-15 missile can be data linked, which means the lower frequency KJ-500 radar can detect a stealth target from far away, and directs other fighters to fire a PL-15, the KJ-500 can then use data link to direct the PL-15 to the approximate target of the stealth plane, by then the PL-15 can turn on its own active radar seeker, and since it's close to the stealth target, the missile can get a solid lock on target. This is the nature of networked warfare
There’s Just something very disturbing about that .. A part of me doesn’t want to believe that while the other part of me knows it’s true .. Hate technology sometimes
The comparison of both the jets is a bit complicated i think. While F-35 is a multirole aircraft focusing mainly on ground strikes after air superiority has been established, the j-20 is a frontline air superiority fighter. I feel the comparison or an engagement between the raptor and j-20 would be more appropriate
The F-35 has never been multirole. It's a specialized ground attack fighter capable of carrying air-to-air missiles and torpedoes and with the targeting sensors to go with them. The F-22 is the air superiority fighter, for example.
@@midgetydeath the earlier versions of the F-35 were much more focused on precison ground attacks. But recent upgrades have made it more capable for air to air combat..but even then so, if pitted against a 5th gen superiority fighter like the j-20, it might still struggle. The US should have focused more on developing the raptor alongwith the fat amy instead of focusing on the f-15ex. Although thats my personal opinion 😅
@@sumit55468 You are partially correct. Besides F-22/F-35, USAF still needs bomb truck like F-15E. It is not necessary all airplanes have to be stealth. F-15E has its value because it is too expensive to operate those heavy bombers.
In so many words the General is saying that the F-35 was intercepted by the J-20 and that the KJ-500 was instrumental in the occurence of the event. The General's careful use of the words in relation to "getting close", is indicative of and consistent with the actions taken by aircraft that are intercepted. This is why he places emphasis on the intentions and roles of the J-20. Taking this into consideration says a lot about the Chinese, in their coordinated utilization of AEWACS and their platform of stealth technology that is able to exploit or create vulnerabilities in U.S. stealth capabilities. It would appear that the Chinese are just as effective as the U.S., in some areas of tactical electronic warfare systems.
@JBS China and Russia also claims to be able to detect stealth fighters. Likely using low frequency radar. Or a massively powered high frequency radar. Either way, the stealth fighters aren't as invisible as you think. Stealth tech will eventually be outdated.
stealth is overrated if the adversary having capable radars. like chinese AWACS is having 3 types of radar inside that circular dome (or whatever). not to mention sattelites (visual & radar) and ground radar. one thing that should be noted that every weapons/devices that china have, it always tinkered and upgraded, the same j20 last year will be different than j20 this year. improvement is daily job, not a project or waiting for certain condition happened.
Besides being a bigger aircraft its has canard which increases its RCS which means it becomes vulnerable to be detected by radars... Stealth fighter doesn't have canards
@@9AMITkrYADAV chinese will have full operational f 31 stealth jet fighter without canard....canard will important for maneuverbility if stealth technology isn,t work anymore
Say what you want about the Zumwalt, but it was considered effective in it's role, just far too costly to fill the order or operate for extended engagements.
the Zumwalt’s role is slowly coming to fruition. From an article from USNI, the project manager stated that they’ll replace the gun pods with hypersonic missiles in 2025.
@@kiro9257 so, no electromagnetic railgun? Wasted potential. Any kind of ship can fire a hypersonic missile. Russians already have them operational in all branches
J20 is now flying with Chinese made W15 jet engines only, which is more powerful than the previous Russian ones. China mastered the art of fighter jet design and production in just 30 years, through hard work and diligence
they mastered the art of stealth tech by hacking their way into US defence contractors in last 1 and a half decade and copying parts of those intel. Thats the key part that everyone keeps forgetting.
@@BabaYaga826 can you point to any facts or incidents where india has hacked any foreign defennse agency for any weapon/millitary intel?? has it ever been accused of any such thing?? China has been accused of this on multiple occasion and it is widely known fact that they fund American and Euro universities and researches to either steal , hack or influence their way into millitary tech. Or maybe being defensive and talking out of your ass is just your thing. India is slower because they are developing their own Equipment from ground up and all the infrastructure and tech isnt in place for that. Atmanirbhar mission is not going to mature for the next 1-2 decades. hence a healthy mix of foreign sourced weapon systems to bridge the gap.
"close encounter" between F35 and J-20, what you actually meant was, the F35 didn't see the J-20 coming. is this why the air force is buying F-15EX and stopped their orders of additional F35s? in addition, since the KJ-500 was able to track the F35, wouldn't that mean the Chinese could literally fire the PL-15 and take out the F35 before the pilot even realized what's happening? since the PL-15's range is 200KM.
The Americans are buying more armed cheaper planes over expensive flying computers for the simple reason that the first type is more cheaper, doesn’t have groundbreaking tech that could be reverse engineered etc. Plus tell me 1 country that wants to replace their 4-4.5 gen fleets with 5th gen fighters I’ll wait.
@@williamfieldsjr4144 j20 is the first jet ever to feature multi vortices aero config - fairing+delta+canard+allmoveable rearwing. There's no 1 to copy from
J20 stealth is as true as the CCP troops in WW2 beating the Japanese! Japan was opposed by Nationalist troops and a small force of UK.USA, Australians and others. CCP hid in caves while others defeated the then enemy! TAIWAN IS AN INDEPENDANT DEMOCRACY! CCP CHINA IS A BASTARD PRISON!
It’s like WTF are we building these planes for then ? So pilots can go up and get shot down .. Washington need’s to pull there head’s out there assess and stop holding back funds.. We need the funds assholes so that we can better our tech so that next time , and I hope there is a next time we’re not trailing and trying to play catch up to people with our missle tech whether it be hypersonic or not cause all Russia has to do now is put a couple MiG-31’s in the Mediterranean and watch U.S. and NATO warships steam out of there .. God help us
China's PL-15 air-to-air missile is ahead of the ALM-120 generation. The PL-15 air-to-air missile has a maximum range of 300 kilometers. It is equipped with a dual-pulse solid rocket motor, which can re-ignite during flight to expand the range, increase the terminal flight energy, and improve maneuverability. In addition, the PL-15 also uses an active phased array radar, which has the ability to fight against stealth targets.
You are pretty good at the propaganda, but you forgot to mention that the PL 15 can only target large aircrafts like transporters, refueling crafts, AWACS etc. Which has never been proved in combat btw. Also, it does not have sufficient maneuvering capability to target normal fighters. While we are at this, normal Chinese fighters do not have radars to pick up targets at long ranges, only the top tier fighters like the J-20 have this capability. Most of the Chinese Air Force still flies old copies of old 1970 era fighters... which too have been never proven in actual combat, just paper figures released by China... which are not really trustworthy.
@@Aryan-nv9kd Because China is not a warmongers liked US? Which US invaded multiple countries in last few decades? And US never get sanctioned for their war crimes, so ironic. 🙂
I would say one thing though the criticisms people saw a few years ago about the J20 were not entirely baseless propaganda. J20 did have severe issues with their engines, but it has been improving since 2019 and that is also when you see the production amount of J20 go straight up. The WS15 engine was already tested on a J20 prototype last year, and would most likely be in service this year or next. Also there's the two seat variant.
The reasons pentagon scaled down the f35 production is bc they found out that all you need is one f-anything would take down at least 4 of the J-20s. China copies/steals everything for a reason you know.
@@vivienneduong6541 how can that be true, when the video is a REAL AMERICAN general saying that china is not as simple as that? Like American chief if staff recently said that china has overtaken the US in a few areas, Elon musk has also said that china is ahead in many things IT/computer related. I dont like that you make it seem like china is no big deal, like do you understand how difficult it is to "copy" military equipment? Its not just making something that looks like it, if it were that easy, why dont russia or india do it?...russian President Vladimir Putin has also said that the chinese upgrades of the "flanker" family of fighter jets are beyond current russian abilities, russia is also planning on having china build the new russian aircraft carrier (speculative).
@@arthurleeki lol I wouldn't call it, "copy" as it was stolen blueprints, big difference. The j20 is the Frankenstein of fighter planes. Besides that, the j20 was a deal between Russia and china, where Russia would build the engine, and china would use stolen blueprints from the f35, su29 and the design is literally the same as mig 1.14 in functionality, the kenards even functions the exact same way 😂 they designed the plane around the Russian engine, later backed off and made their own, and when they finally stole blue prints of the f22 thurst vectoring capabilities, they decided to change the engine all together. So they designed a plane that was not meant for thurst vectoring, and later shoved it down it's throat. When designing a very specific plane with a specific job, you design the engine and then the plane, not the other way around😂😂 and since when was musk the representative and ambassador of the tech world 😂
@@rickiex hah, there you go, "stolen" I can accept....not copy, thank you for understanding that I was trying to point out the error in language. Anyway, dont you think we need to guard our tech better? However my buddy back at home explained to me that effectively guarding this stuff would mean alot of public freedom would be revoked, which is a different discussion as everyone is armed. What do you think?
@@rickiex sorry let me reply to the musk thing here, you do realise, that he is a "engineer" and not just some business billionaire right? If a engineer feels, any engineer....feels like "woah, you guys have tech huh?" .....I would trust an ENGINEER, because engineers make things, those who dont make it? Can claim anything. Dont you think?
Yes absolutely. However issue is the coffer has really quite empty Raising debt ceiling is one way. Hope US$ usage will Not erode further is another... Both funding in the long run is dead end. Last solution: create wars... Knock down your opponent before they are in a better advantage That is one developed world or superpower will take... But the record is bad,... Unlikely will end in current champ favour
Arnold Schwarzenegger Talks about the Ukraine war I love the Russian people. That is why I have to tell you the truth. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IMby6S0BcHM.html
That doesn't mean anything. The pilot and people still have to adapt to how advance the aircraft is. Human error is very common when adapting to new changes.
Inflation in the United States requires the return of funds, so I hope that all countries in the world will have wars (excluding the United States), so Asian countries must be united and peaceful, and stay away from the United States
Guess, what? Landing a fighter jet on a runway that's effectively just 100 feet long in the middle of the ocean is inherently very difficult and hazardous. Any country that operates aircraft carriers knows that occasional accidental aircraft losses is an unavoidable part of carrier operations. FYI, the Russian aircraft carrier lost two fighters within two weeks during operations off of Syria.
Americans need to stop living in a bubble about China and its capabilities. Fortunately, the people of China are not our enemy, and we should work towards creating an alliance rather than fostering an adversarial relationship. The people of China are hardworking, intelligent, creative, talented, funny, and have a rich heritage thousands of years older than the CCP. We have much in common with the Chinese people, and I hope our nations can become more friendly.
@@bhatishfaq9604 lol as if we care, we don't need their fund anyways. India funds other nations more than what India receive from these so called European nation and why are you guys so obsessed with us? xD worry about your country which is on the road to become a failed state
No, we are saying that that we have many jets to counter. But countering with indigenously developed aircraft ( it doesn't mean assembling them, instead, it means desiging it from scratch and then doing its implementation) will give more satisfaction. But never the less you can play with that. Meanwhile, we will develop AMCA and then you have to acquire another jets from China.
@@waitwhat9282 In the 2021 Global Hunger Index, India ranks 101st out of the 116 countries with sufficient data to calculate 2021 GHI scores. With a score of 27.5, India has a level of hunger that is serious.
If China can get their AEWC in position and enough J20s, US will not have any aerial tactical superiority close to Chinese shores. The PL15 missiles that J20 is equipped with out ranges any American missiles. If early warning radars can pick up F35s in reasonable amount of time, and data link is good, it’s possible that J20 can fire multiple missiles at F35s from 200km away. F35 does have a low radar profile and is stealthier but highly doubt it can evade Chinese aerial radars.
The Chinese official officially revealed the new developments of the J-20, and the war patrols in the East China Sea and the South China Sea have become the norm for training.
Im sure both fighters were saying hi to each other in the air, and say nice to meet you 🤗 just like pulling a supercar next to each other 🤔 passing out business card
General Wilsbach's talk seems tailored to the people who decide his budget and armament. In the full presentation he gently suggests that a full compliment of newer AWACS plus F-15EX's would offer greater potential than older AWACS plus F-35's.
J20 can detect F35 within 200km distance without turning on radar, whereas, F35 100km. J20 stand a better chance to shoot down over hype F35 in early detection.
@@cooldabadam kj500+j20, the J20 can be used just as a missile launch platform. When the KJ500 detected the F35, it can guide the J20 stealthfully close to the target and fire when it comes within range of the PL15. The KJ500 provides guidance for the missile until the missile is completely locked on the target.
when the enemy compliment you, it could mean they are confident enough about their own fighters. is like complimenting a blue belt saying ‘well done’ but you are still far from my level
The fact that it was made public also tells me this, but people in the comment think otherwise and they have pretty well based opinions too so who knows
I've always thought the J-20 is an amazing aircraft. People say it's junk cause its Chinese made garbage. But child develop an aircraft of such caliber is very hard. I believe the J-20 to be a true air dominance aircraft fighter.
If Chinese can become your professor in MIT and cal tech. And they can build space center and outer space explorers why surprised at making a top notch airplane ?
@@siyangliu303 same reason economics professors aren't the richest people in the world. The real world is complex it takes year to develop advance technology. Just because you read it in a text book doesn't mean you can build one .
Don't live in imagination. Accept the reality.chinese jet took down the f35 jet in South China Sea and the whole world saw this. Don't underestimate you enemy.
An intelligent General will always complement his enemies powers even though he knows they have no chance. This emboldens the enemy with confidence same as a boxer will set up an opponent for the inevitable.
Why didn't India do the same then ? This is just an excuse to always say China can't do anything good and even when the US says they do it must be a "strategy" also countries aren't people they're not gonna get embodeled or whatever.
so an intelligent general would also say the enemy is crap and tofu material if they are afraid they have no chance against the enemy to try to deceive the enemy to not to confront them?
No amount of Chinese technology could match the F35C. It is amphibious. With its highly effective stealth technology, and supersonic speed, it could be used to hunt down submarines, underwater.
@@daheikkinen Being such smart animals, I think dolphins will carefully and meticulously study the innards of the submersible, and transfer the technology to themselves. Imagine being invisible to their preys, and hunts at supersonic speed !
Then who ever ordered F-35s recently thinking that they are going to kickass all the other fighter jets going to be disappointed. Recently Germany ordered these.
Yes and Canada is buying them too now. It's almost like they've seen the advantages of the jet and are buying it so they don't have to come up with their own R&D. Weird how armchair generals who have never worked with the F-35 are supposedly more knowledgeable and intelligent than the most prominent military institutions in the world
f35 is not meant to "kickass all other fighter jets" Lol, just see what the plane does and what they talk about during the red flag exercises and you'll get an idea of what they're really planning to use this plane for
They should be grateful. First of all, these countries simply cannot manufacture qualified fifth-generation aircraft. Second, do they have any other options besides f35? f22 is no longer produced. China will consider selling j20 only when the sixth generation fighter jet is in service.
There are so many "military experts" in this comment section. Just a reminder, not everything in the internet can be trusted or the whole truth, after all both countries have propagandas. As for both countries high-tech military equipment, we can't really sure who will win as long as they don't engage in combat.
Sounds like a LOT less appreciation than you hyped up. Was mostly appreciation of their professionalism, we are mainly used to dealing with Russian pilots, who are wildly unprofessional in these encounters and often do stupid things. Also, the reduction of F35 orders has nothing to do with the J20. The NGAD program has been accelerated and the plane has been flown, they are dedicating more resources in that direction. While our competitors are just now fielding 5th Gen fighters in small numbers, we're well into production of 6th generation planes.
Yes, more hyping up of J20 by pink warriors. There is very little about the encounter that we know of. Did the F-35 know the J20 was there? Many Chinese automatically assume that J20 intercepted the F-35 without their knowledge. However, that is pure speculation and is not backed up by any evidence. Did the F-35 have radar reflectors? It is common for stealth aircraft to carry radar deflectors during peacetime. Of course you do not want to show your enemy your true stealth capabilities.
As a Chinese, let me tell you why Americans say this, mainly because China's ws-15 engine can be produced by itself. Before, the construction of J20 required Russian engines, resulting in a small production capacity. Now China can produce a thousand aircraft a year. J-20, after all, China controls rare earth resources
which is why the US military are quick to say Russia has better missiles, China more naval ships, etc, but a lot of that money just goes to the pockets of warmongers who are also lobbyists
I don’t know why you say that Chinese aircraft manufacturing copied the United States. The truth is that the wind tunnel technology for building aircraft. China is 20 years ahead of the United States. The JF22 hypersonic wind tunnel is equivalent to the power of the entire Three Gorges Dam.Its instantaneous power can reach 22,000 megawatts
But which stealth plane is the replacement? Still had to use F35 Perhaps it was just some excuses often military take China is catching up fast, not quite there yet The real issue with superpower is her shrinking fund (over budget, wastefulness, dismal results) Debt ceiling Erosion of US$ usage These are the true issues, why champ will lose But starting a war with China is only way she knows, the possibility of knocking the new opponent out (submit like Japan, China to go backward) is very unlikely Inevitable outcome
It is F35 got intercepted by J20. That means F35 is not stealthy at all, even naked in front of Chinese radars. In terms of long range, PL-15 is one generation ahead of American air to air missiles. PL 15 can shot down F35 in 300 km away. J20 life cofficient is 2.0 > F22 lift cofficient 1.7 > F35 lift cofficient 1.1-1.7. J20 get 3D vector thrusters now, yet F22 only has 2 D one.
Bro Do you want to hear the real J20 in American software? Let me tell you, the J-20 is not developed for the F-35, J means annihilation, it is an air superiority fighter, it is for the F-22 and early warning aircraft, not for the stupid and slow fat pig like the F-35! The J-20 has completely crushed the F-35, the military-industrial complex, to cheat money, in power, range, radar, missiles, and avionics control!
No no no . But still godi medias praise French 4.5 genaration Rafael much greater than 5th genaration j20.. bcoz modi ji purchase this scrape higher coast than other countries purchase price.. that mean godi medias silence Rafael Corruption ..
I'm not even going to lie, the J20 does look bad ass and sexy. Before I thought it looked clumsy and big but on better inspection that's a bad ass jet. I would have to say probably my number 1 pick and su57 my second opinion
It's no secret that F-35 v J-20 has been discussed by many military analysts from both sides. I'll try to be unbiased as much as possible, but here's the wrap up: F-35: Good stealth technology, works well at multi-role from air superiority & ground support. Emphasis on standardization & prices, so that US allies can easily procure & use them. J-20: Due its airframe design, it doesn't have the same level stealth technology or maneuverability needed for air superiority. Nevertheless it's very good at interception. It's main focus is to deliver long range missiles to destroys tanker & early-warning-control planes & supersonic missiles to aircraft carriers F-22: Very good stealth capability with sleeker design, very good at air superiority. Hella expensive that cost many Americans their tax & poor healthcare coverage (among developed nations) My opinion: as of 2022, US still has the upper hands, thanks to better trained & more experienced US pilots. But China's keep improving their jets & pilots at astonishing rate, both in Quality (eg. drones wingman) & Quantity (eg. scale of production & manufacturing tech). Who knows what happen in 2030 or 2047
lol again some pretty amateur opinions. u know nothing about J-20's role and its capability and apparently you don't know F22 either, F22 is so behind in terms of sensor fusions and data link, and its armaments today are simply insufficient. F22 is just an outdated aircraft why can't you US fans just see that or accept that? this is so blatant but u guys keep living in this echo chamber LMAO is this how u gonna win a potential war with China?
Oh yeah, the absolutely massive flanker-like wing and winglets are just for decoration. And of course you have RCS of both jets to know f35 is surely better
Yeah, but F22 is being phased out from 2024 due to the introduction of the F35 Batch 4 plan. It's more realistic to compare the J20 with the F35 because they are more likely to encounter each other on the battlefield in the future.
I never could understand why all Allied countries would agree to help pay for the US to build a next-generation fighter jet that we all would use in future combat if it was never going to be as GOOD or BETTER than the F22- Raptor (right) America just used these other nations to help pay for their need to experiment and design what will be their next-generation fighter jet and only available to the US military... doh!
