F-22 vs J-20 | Thunderbird Fighter Pilot Reacts 

You show good interest in both aircraft and aren't biased on one side, I love that.

I just subscribed because this is the first video I watched where RU-vidr does not blindly scoff at non-western jets with geopolitical stereotypes. I appreciate the professionalism.

the pilots of all these planes should be commended, regardless of nationality. its no small task to train for everything possible that a gen 5 fighter can do. the physical aspects are grueling but also the sheer amount of practical training needed to operate them effectively

The most amazing thing about the F-22 is that the design phase began in the 80’s and the competition’s modern planes are still playing catch-up.

Dude, you remind me of the infectious personality every fighter pilot I ever encountered that was worth their salt, had. Rock on 🤘🏻.

I live 1.5 miles south of the Langley AFB runway midpoint. I see Raptors fly over my house almost daily. I love that aircraft and those who not only fly them, but also those who work hard to keep them in the air.

This is the first unbiased video I've ever watched on RU-vid. I appreciate your professionality so I subscribed.

keep making these videos bro… it’s relaxing after work…. sounds crazy but it puts my mind in relax mode… great job

Love it! I was at an air show in Klamath Falls Oregon when I was 15 years old with my parents….. in 1986…. So that kind of dates me Lol. My uncle was there and he knew one of the pilots, he had his F 16 sitting there and allowed me to crawl up in the cockpit and sit in it! Even at that age that cockpit fit me like putting on a perfectly fit cowboy boot…..PLOP! One of the neatest experiences I have had thus far.

Love watching your videos!…keep up the great work!!

First time on the channel and I loved the breakdown! Thanks!!

I just found this channel today. I can’t believe I haven’t seen this until now. I love this channel. I’m subscribing. Keep doing what you do. I love it.

I salute you! I was AMMO for 20 years and retired from Nellis and still live here. Watching the T-Birds never gets old!

Pretty unbiased video, kudos. As far as I'm aware according Chinese sources, the J20 was designed to equip the WS15 engine (basically China's gen 5 engine). Although the Russian AL31 was used on some J20 prototypes, the production J20s also never actually used Russian engines and instead used the WS10B as an interim option before WS15 goes into service.

This is such a great channel. Love this content. Thanks man. 😊

I’ll never forget this f18 (Australian) fly over I seen at football grand final (it actually was best part of my day) just as it was flying over they announced its Pilot name and said he was “18y.o” that blew my mind. I was only just getting driver’s license and here’s this guy 18yo flying f18. And what he did next was something I’ll never forget. He throws the jet sideways and all this water Vapor’s were pouring off they he pulls a almost impossible turn and points it straight up and hits afterburners and shot straight up. I was in total awe. Still am.

very good stuff, don't be discouraged by the lack of viewership your work is great.

The space between the engine and the body is important for dealing with boundary layer airflow. If you notice, all modern fighters have a space between their engine and body. As to the fin/blade there on the mig, there may be other reasons we are unaware of.

Very clean analysis. Loved it!

Love your video, straight to the point and no bs

Those jets look incredible! Like something out of a sci-fi movie!

Much respect for all America's Pilot's. You all have the best attitudes. Our Guardians in the sky's...Thank-you Buddy🙏🇺🇸

You put a big smile on my face. Thank you!

Wow keep up the awesome videos. Thank you so much.

第一，J20的空气动力设计（鸭翼，全动垂尾等）注定机动性优于F22。第二J20可携带更多武器。第三J20换装新发动机后可长时间超音速巡航，并在超音速状态下发射导弹。第四因为后研发的优势J20的隐身涂层和电子控制系统更优于F22。

Splitter plates on a Mig-23, L-39, Su-15, Su-24, etc. diverts the boundary layer away from the engine intake. It is a form of boundary layer control. First time hear this story about arresting net. Interesting.

Your enthusiasm for aviation is contagious. Nice vid.

I know next to nothing about flying and jets, but enjoyed your content. Cheers for the great content🍻

Although F22 is an impressive super airplane, it’s like a 36-year old car in rapid development electronic car era. J20 loaded with new electronic system that allow it to control hundreds of drones . The future air fight will be totally different game that F22 was built to fight.

The J20 was designed for vector thrust engines and super cruise capability. But China`s new engine development was lagging behind the jet itself. That is where the Russian engines came in. It was a temporary fix. That's why we only saw small batches of the J20 with the Russian engine peoduced in the first a few years.

I dominated the like button and subscribed! Thanks for the video!

Wow! Great video!

I absolutely love watching the F-22. The way it moves and turrns is beautiful, it's also the most aesthetically pleasing designs IMO, but I grew up around the Air Force.

They're all amazing machines. I think it all comes down to the driver.

thank you for your video on this , its important for us

Great video!

I remember a classic joke from the U.S.A.F, The instructor asked the student, "Why do fighters need to dogfight? The student answered because I have super maneuvering, the instructor said: Wrong! Because you are stupid. Similarly, why do 5th generation planes need to dogfight? Have you seen the J20's performance at the recent Zhuhai Space Show?

Speaking as a former crew chief all I can say when seeing the 22 do those maneuvers is "there's going to be a lot of maintenance to do when it lands." Lol

Love this amazing content

You’re totally awesome and thanks for your service

The gold or copper tint of the F-22 is from a coating of Indium Tin Oxide which is suppose to help with it's radar (or lack their of) cross section. Source is from "F-22 Raptor" by Bill Sweetman, author and editor for Aviation Week.

Great video. Perhaps you could do a video getting into how the thrust vectoring capabilities of the F22/35 aid in general aviation safety and survivability by comparison to Gen 4 or just general aviation. I know it wouldn't be especially "glamorous", but just like F1, the technologies eventually filter down into general aviation. I think that could be two cool comparisons of might might be as a result of these two Gen 5's. Besides, anything we can do to display added value is good for procurement. Great videos! Semper Fi!

like your vids. Wondering if the C-5 and C-17 will be featured. Its something unique about those flying truckers. Miss the TF39's on the C-5 too. It makes a cool ring tone.

Man keeping it confidential, I was hoping that you would talk more into the techs haha, anyways greeting from China

I guess I misunderstood. I thought at the beginning of the video you'd said that you were going to give us your thoughts on who'd dominate but you simply said it depended on a pilot's experience. Have you seen the video of Randy (Laz) Gordon's lecture on F22 aeronautics at MIT? It's on RU-vid. You might have stronger ideas once you see it. Better yet, get Laz on your channel as a guest.

Personally, I prefer the YF-23 airframe, and it would be amazing with newer tech in it. Surprises me that nobody ever revisits prototype concepts, even if only for use as drones. The X-36, for example would be amazing with new technology and incorporated AI as a UCAV.

great info, thanks

The f4 info is amazing, my father works at local air museum and they have a f4 phantom and a tomcat!

I get shivers. As a retired flight instructor and fighter pilot, these new generation pilots are leaps and bounds ahead of the training offered/received in the past (at least by the CAF). In today's world, I would have zero clue how to train a pilot on these incredibly advanced fighters effectively.

The way I understood it, the copper coloured canopy on the F22 is actually normal canopy materials with a thin layer of gold on top to not let radar into the cockpit and help with stealth, Edit: it’s not Gold but Indium Tin Oxide, Thanks Emir Redžemailvić

Amazing channel just found you. Greetings from Tunisia.

Glad to hear such professional common. btw for the power, can't agree more about the problems caused by the power was not design for the plane. But as I know it was the AL31 as substitution to put first few products in the air for testing and showing. J-20 was not designed for AL31 at the very 1st place. But WS-10 was behind schedule so they put the old AL31 on for few years as advance. Since 2021 they began to put WS-10 back on for replacing AL31 as the mass production began.

J-20 seems to fit perfectly with what the Chinese need: a stealthy, 'missile-truck' with a large fuel load that can reach out over large distances of ocean (the U.S.) or inland (russian boarder). Imo, not made for 'close' ACM.

The Soviets impounded USAAF B-29s that landed on their soil after bombing missions over Japan. The Tupolev design bureau then copied them nut for nut, bolt for bolt, and called their model the Tu-4. American aviation experts were bemused to discover all Russian copies had a small hole drilled under one wing. This was because the one particular B-29 they copied happened to have this hole. The Tupolev engineers had no idea what it was for but they copied it anyway.

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I saw the F22s perform at Chino and Nellis. More than the insane Tokyo Drifting they were pulling across the sky, the main thing that got me was the massive cocky grins on the pilots when I got to talk to them. They say all the right things and present themselves very well, but you can just tell, on the inside, they know that they are the coolest people on Earth. I asked one what the top speed was, and he said, “officially, it’s around Mach 2.5.” I asked him what he meant by “officially”. He just smiled and repeated his answer.

The most important aspect of any military jet is that it must look good. And J20 looks good.

Glad to see that you’re able to discuss the technical aspects of the two aircrafts like an aviation enthusiast without getting into the politics of the two countries 👍👍👍 Regarding the design of the J-20, it was originally designed to match with the WS-15 engine with thrust vectoring and supercruise capability, just that the WS-15’s development was lagging behind the development of the J-20 airframe and China had no choice but to use the AL-31 engines as an interim plan before the WS-15 engine becomes available. You would probably have noticed that J-20s were only produced in small numbers initially because China didn’t want to field too many J-20s that are equipped with the AL-31 that eventually have to be upgraded to the WS-10C and WS-15 engines. You can clearly see that the number of J-20s rolling off the production line started exploding after the WS-10C has matured in 2019.

This is the first video I’ve seen from you. 15 seconds in and I already want you to be my pilot.

I always considered canards to be analogous to front-wheel drive on a car. FWD pulls you through a turn; RWD pushes you through a turn.

J-20 for naval aviation missions. F-22 for stealth ground missions. Its like comparing the type 055 destroyer to the zumwalt.

Awesome content and engaging 👍🏻

12:00 It's a super thin layer of gold so the cockpit appears as a single sheet of metal on radar so they dont have to worry about radar characteristics of the cockpit interior!

True story but only 2 or 3 pilots that have responded to me have perspective on how bad this really is. Landing on the Midway was hard in daytime, harder at night, harder at night in the rain, and unbelievable at night in a hurricane. We had to land 35 planes in nighttime hurricane conditions circa 1972-73. F4's, A6's, etc. One pilot told me they never saw the ship once. The only reason we didn't dodge the storm was none of the planes had fuel to make it to Danang. We were the only game in town and had to stay put while the storm sprayed over the island. All 35 returned "safely" and all of our prayers were answered. Fly Navy I bet the F22 or F35 could handle this better.

The raptors ability to just throw itself into a flat spin and come out whenever it wants is crazy

i just like the looks of the aircrafts. it must be a dream of any pilots to fly one of these. the mobility of them must feel super great as a pilot.

great insights and thanks. LIked and subbed

Am the only one who thinks this dude gives me the Jim Carrey vibe? This isn't said in a negative kinda way. I'm a big JC fan and thinks he's awesome.

F22无EOTS,无EODAS,无HMDS，态势感知能力缺失，数据链缺陷导致无完备CEC能力，.上一代航电架构和AESA组件，无法适配AIM120D和9X，作战半径小，任务属性单一，这就是军盲眼里的最强

Great video. I'm subscribed.

6:00 I think you were totally imagining flying it XD the true spirit of a fighter pilot

In the Army (Helicopter crew CH-47) we had the visors that flipped into the helmet. We loved the design, but you definitely have to keep those tracks clean, and that was a little harder for us to do, when we were hanging out the side of a helicopter in the desert.

Thanks for the video! I enjoyed both hype videos. If I was to choose an air superiority fighter I'd probably pick F22. But I think it makes very little sense to compare the 2 for a dog fight because as I understand the J20 is built for a totally different purpose. The reason it has a large body and weapon bays is to have both enough fuel to patrol the South China Sea and to take out tankers and AWACS using the PL-15 missiles. Canards are bad for stealth but for the original purpose of J20 it only needs forward stealth so it's not a big deal. The recent encounter of J20 and F35 suggests the likely tactic of PLAAF is to use AWACS to track stealth planes and J20 to deliver a long range missile outside opponent's missile range. The more likely scenario of an encounter is likely to be J20 v F35 or even J35 v F35. But with the introduction of the YJ21 hypersonic missile I highly doubt that will ever happen.

Terrific report! Fighter Pilots need to be funny on the ground because it’s all serious business up there!

Hello Sir Jet Clean, while watching this video I am imagining all the G's these piolets at dealing with, and it made me wonder what is the max G's you've dealt with?

From what I have seen the J-20 was design for thrust vectoring. The Russian engines was to tie them over until they mastered Gen 5 engines.

Regarding larger weapons bay and range in the J-20: the plane is much larger than the F-22, so of course it would have larger weapons bays and range.

I just showed the like button lots of love 👍

Its amazing the f22 was introd in 05 and based off The US's unwillingness to export it countries are TRYING to catch up but most likely havent and when you couple the raptor with the f35 that's where at least in a numbers game no other country competes they might come close or pass in tech but not in sheer spending or numbers

A lot of the secret of the F-22 is with the absurdly advanced flight controls. The jet itself 'knows' more about how to achieve any manuver asked about the pilot than the pilot needs to know themselves to a degree that no other jet ever has accomplished. This is difficult to build into a plane and program, the amount of testing and data that has to be gathered to just write the software is absurd. The J-20 probably lacks this given it's rapid development and temporary engine usage (was set to be upgraded from day 1 so fully integrated flight control automation probably wasn't a thing). It's like this - in an F-18 there's flight control stability with fly by wire...great...but the pilot still needs to know that at whatever speed, angle of attack, throttle setting etc. achieving a manuver might require different inputs. Say at slow speeds with a high angle of attack, the vertical tail surfaces aren't getting as much air so pointing the nose to your target might require you to give one engine more thrust than the other and somehow moving the elevator tails independently (which traditional flight controls don't allow you to do)...the pilot would have to know how and immediately do those things. In the F-22 you'd just give it left pedal and the plane will yaw doing all the tricks itself even if the rudders don't move at all. Hard to explain but hopefully this makes sense.

China has been testing its new engine on J-20 lately. There was a footage of J-20 flying with different engines on each side, and the new one is visually longer than the old one. The current engine is serving a transitional purpose as they have decided to go with native ones at the beginning. So hopefully there will be more footage with maneuver after the new engine come out.

Bro,you tend to cover subjects that I've always wondered about. Things like the webbed canopy, side stick control from another video of yours and many other things that the war plane books that I read as a kid didn't cover. I'm also an AF vet, but I was on a bomber ( SAC) base and never got to do flight line work on fighters. Thanks for informative videos. I definitely will like and subscribe.

My aerodynamics engineer friend told me thrust vectoring is the defining feature of the 5th gen IF and ONLY IF the jet is expected to fight in dogfights. In the high-speed maneuver, the number of independently controlled surfaces and the size of each of them with well calibrated and model-UI control system is way more important than thrust vectoring. And this remains pretty much true until approx 500kmh so thrust vectoring in the low speed maneuver ... basically the stuff you see in every airshow and in some cases navy landing on CVs.

we are assuming china gives their pilots the same amount of flight hours as the americans. if Ukraine has shown us anything its that rising powers sometimes skimp a little on warfighter training time.

My Uncle-in-Law is a retired USAF Lt. Colonel. He was an F-16 pilot, F-16 Instructor, test pilot, and had a hand in the F-35 program. He now works for Southwest Airline. As a private pilot it is always a pleasure to visit him. He is so down to earth and not the macho guy you might think he would be. My friend Lt Coronal Ed Cassidy . Thanks for the video!

For people who do not watch your eyes and head motions in the lower right portion of this video.............................they are missing the real feel YOU are experiencing. Thank you for these vids!

Great point at the end. And funny story!

the canopy is copper / gold because there is a layer of indium tin oxide between the layers of canopy glass. it provides a surface for radar to reflect off of. because radar passes right through regular glass and without it, the cockpit geopmetry would be a huge increase to front facing radar cross section.

As an USAF vet (early 80s), I've always loved the F-15. When they rolled out the F-22, I thought it as a nice replacement for the F-15. Of course, when I saw pix & video of the XF-23, I wondered why it was not chosen. I'm hearing that the 6th Gen is more like the XF-23. Take care & keep up the great videos.

How are those massive wings combined with the canards going to affect turning? It seems like they'd lose energy fast... Kinda like riding the brakes when turning. Maybe I'm missing something... I've never flown anything but my old datsun 210 when I jumped a railroad crossing.

What is the liquid leaking out onto the front wheel @14:05? Is it feul like with a blackbird or maybe a hydrolocal leak? ( or water from the pilots ac?)

50% jets flying 40% self commercial 10% actual talking

6:06 lol, on that part, actually those footage came from a Japanese photographer, and those moves of J20 were done in an air show, 2018, Zhuhai. So pilots were of course tasked to do those. I knew that cause that photographer's video was quite a hit (in Chinese millirary tech community anyway) when it came out on the internet. We were awed by how badly the Chinese national TV (CCTV) covered the very same event with BAD, BAD footage they freaking shot, I think it was CCTV-7? And in comparison a random Japanese photographer did a very good job for us. We mock CCTVs a lot about this. They manage to make huge ships like type 055 looking like a fishboat, consistantly🤣. So now, when there's major millitary events we're often like: oh I wish a Japanese photographer is here~

At 2:53, what is the white thing on the front of the canopy frame?

Blake Masters flew f-15s? That is awesome 👌🏼👏😎

i love the shape of the wing of the F22 its got some really nice clever little curves and details. the J20 looks good but the proportions are a little off its a little long behind the cockpit. the F22 is plane/plain porn

This is the most fun fighter jet comparison I've seen. Keep it up. PS alot of people think China is getting ready to fight the US with its fast growing army. But I think China is doing this so they can void the fight with the US.

Question: Is having to open the weapons bay a detriment to firing missiles in these stealth fighters versus being able to drop one off the piling for the old fighters?

I love the footage... AND you let us watch a lot between talking. I love the little stories like the cutting blade... that's remarkable. Good Channel. Thanks

For all I know, F-22 is discontinued, it is no longer made. So,. the fleet will no longer grow. In fact, it will only decrease over time, while the F-15 is being reanimated... J-20, on the other hand, is not discontinued and will be upgraded... How exactly is "Made in China" technology compared... That is another question...