Why Are Black & White Funeral Homes STILL Separate?

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@SashaVaughn 4 года назад

As a black woman, I truly appreciate the amount of research, reverence and respect in which you presented this information. You got a subscriber here maam!

@ariawaltris4782 4 года назад

Absolutely! I love Caitlyn's content, her attitude towards death and everything. I am a proud deathling I can't wait to have a stable job to become a patreon. RU-vid doesn't support none of my favorite youtubers

@madhatressadastra8267 4 года назад

@Hal Marsh - 𝚂𝚘𝚖𝚎 𝚋𝚕𝚊𝚌𝚔 𝚙𝚎𝚘𝚙𝚕𝚎 𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚞𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝙰𝚁𝙴 𝚋𝚕𝚊𝚌𝚔...

@Abcdefghijk920 4 года назад

Caitlin always presents her videos with amazing research and has a way of presenting it that is very very professional aaaannnnddd adds some humor! I binge watch her channel. She talks about so many cultures and races and gets as much info first hand as possible!

@karalibra3032 4 года назад

Sasha, welcome to the deathling community. I found this channel by accident a while ago, and have learned so much since. The videos are always informative, highly researched and incredibly respectful. 😁

@irisheyesofbelfast 4 года назад

I love how does her videos in such light hearted manner so people don't feel doom and gloom about the subject and she makes it easier to ask questions and talk about it. She is awesome.

@bcfriardoyle7697 4 года назад

My grandma’s family were black morticians in Pittsburgh in the early 1900’s through rather recently. First brothers then the women took over. That business paid mortgages, college tuitions, and more. We all learned how to love God, how everyone deserved dignity, and not to be afraid of death.

@bebopbonsai 3 года назад

Big love from Pittsburgh ✊🏼

@jaimealexander8022 3 года назад

My Godparents own a funeral home in Pittsburgh. She was also our minister. They were able to do so much for our church and our community. The Kids in the church(teens) even went on a Funeral Home Directors Convention in Erie one year. The information was so interesting, I so wanted to stay, While the other kids wanted to sightsee and go to the "beach". lol

@bee_beautyfulll 3 года назад

Much love!! What part of town? Rip to all the lives lost in 2020 goddamn

@onthe_tlctip 3 года назад

pittsburgh has had so many tragic losses in the last year its been unreal. thank you and your family for having this service

@karla_thee_potato 3 года назад

Amazing story❤❤

@mewing8189 3 года назад

In the mid 1990s a former coworker of mine called me and ask me if I’d work for her at her recently opened flower shop in Detroit. She’s Black I’m not. We were located next to a black funeral home. I learned so much about the differences between white and black funeral homes and funeral practices while there . When they talk about how each group would segregate to each groups business I could relate because of my experiences working there. You could see me working in the back room from the front of the shop. My boss was often asked if she was a “front “and if the business was really white owned because of my working there. She get customers who were upset because she hired a white woman instead of a black person. Her response was I was there because of my abilities, not my skin color. She’d shut them down so fast. I had a lot of experiences while working for her. Not all were good but it was an adventure in many ways. I met so many people and learned so much when I was there. She told me after I left regular customers would often ask about me. I only left because my husband got a new job on the other side of the state. We are still friends.

@snazzypazzy 3 года назад

So strange question maybe, but can you tell more about the floral traditions? I'd love to learn about them! My mom was a teacher to florists (not in the US, she's retired now) and we've both always found floral funeral traditions of different cultures very interesting. Thanks!

@reggiebenson9172 3 года назад

As a white guy, it wouldn't bother me in the least if black people had a blacks only funeral home. I understand the feelings.

@likekush09 3 года назад

@@snazzypazzy wow🤣😂🤣

@snazzypazzy 3 года назад

@@likekush09 I don't understand what's funny

@sitcomsTV 2 года назад

SO Black people expect to live surrounded by blacks - basically they are racists having issues with accepting someone else (mainly white people) in their "turf" so to say. But if they move into some "white turf" so to say they scream DESCRIMINATION for anything. Double standards. I'm saying this because i believe it to be the case in most places in the United States. Or even other places in the world. The ideal would be people just chilling and not care about that. To me its beyond understanding WHY that is not standard. I get one need to feel connected with history and culture. It gives you a sense of identity. (You don't have to search for one anymore aha. You can borrow one like if you were born in royalty). But when you are like the 5th person born from an american person... and you go on and on about slavery from 500 years ago... that's not embracing heritage its not living the present. Is trying to punish today's society for something done 500 years ago. Imagine if jews and other groups targeted during 2nd WW to be exterminated from the face of hearth (This was not the case in slavery times - they were used for handwork and considered of value) were to act this way today. It does NOTHING for equality. Holocaust survivors FIGHT and PREACH for PEACE. Some practiced forgiveness. They know hate is not the path. They urge everyone not to be that way. We should listen. They were the ONES going trough it. They didn't «inherit» it culturally they lived it.

@HSunday40 2 года назад

It is absolutely heartbreaking to think about slaves not being given that time to mourn. We think about slavery & know it’s evil. We don’t ever think about every single thing these people were robbed of.

@RM-nz9ny 4 года назад

Aretha Franklin’s funeral is the best example of a proper Black funeral I’ve ever seen. I loved watching that service and hearing everyone sing their tributes to the Queen of Soul. It may sound odd, but I felt so at home while watching it on TV.

@16rpm1 4 года назад

I would have felt a lot better about this funeral if Louis Farrakhan hadn't been center stage. That's a very bad look.

@tomarasmith4459 4 года назад

16RPM it to Black Americans he is a part of out community she wanted him there

@nosunblockneeded 4 года назад

Same!. And to add insult to injury,I don't know WHY "they" had Arianna Grande front and centre dress completely inappropriately!! kmt

@16rpm1 4 года назад

@@tomarasmith4459 That being said only makes Aretha look bad. A racist is a racist no matter the race of the person that would want a person like a Louis farrakhan. Him being there is one thing but center stage, i think not. Just my thoughts, i mean what do i know, I'm white.

@DaleaLusk 4 года назад

Aretha Franklin looked good. Nicely done.

@HighKicks2yaTeef 4 года назад

My dad's funeral was basically a jazz concert He loved jazz Ppl told funny stories It made it a lot harder to cry My moms was small due to cost, but not somber I miss them dearly

@summermartin8830 4 года назад

@iHighKick I hope your doing well dear, and that your mother went peacefully. Your family sounds like lovely people ☺

@grbgeslnger24 4 года назад

I’m sorry to hear about your Dad. I lost my Mom two years ago and it still tears me up inside from time to time. I wish we could have had something festive like that. 🙏🏻

@billblount5955 4 года назад

At mine the song green onions and the mall chase song from. Blue brothers

@amberdulay7238 4 года назад

“Black people used death to claim humanity.” Holy crap, that is a powerful and heartbreaking sentence.

@megasexyhotbabe00 4 года назад

Did you hear about the white police officer who killed a pregnant black womans child while protesting, holy crap that's powerfully disturbing!

@aquntio 4 года назад

b12 o What was the reason for that....?

@queserai 4 года назад

@@aquntio Ignore them. They'd always want to instigate things when it's not about them.

@ILovHelloKitty13 4 года назад

b12 o You realize BLM speaks up against police violence that’s ALSO killing white people, right? You ain’t safe either Timmy.

@rosesweetcharlotte 4 года назад

@@ILovHelloKitty13 Yeah, I love how all the sudden all the white people love cops when any other time, these same people would hate the police for pulling them over, SWATTING their homegrow operation, getting them on child support, etc.

@billswifejo 3 года назад

Very interesting. As a British woman, here in England I have never heard of segregation in funeral parlours and definitely not in terms of cemeteries. My sister in law is black, and it never occurred to me that the funeral home might have trouble with her hair.

@dionnebell9834 3 года назад

Worse than her hair for me it’s the skin tone. Things have greatly improved, but getting make up to create a realistic tone is very hard. I saw some dreadful done up bodies in the 80s 90s in the UK. As funeral Parlours then and now didn’t stock the range of colours required or know how to apply it. Whilst definitely alive Meghan markles weird tights fiasco illustrated that even now getting tights in a range of skin tones is difficult and she is fairly light.

@harmonydevaney8940 2 года назад

@@dionnebell9834 A lot of my Black friends have trouble getting makeup that matches there skin tone now. I can’t imagine the stereotypical white man trying to match a Black persons skin tone 😳

@midnightscrawls Год назад

Sorry to jump onto your comment after two years, but just wanted to say this is definitely a situation in the UK too! In my area, there is one black owned funeral business, and if you know someone who is black in the wider area, its almost a guarantee that they'll have been handled by said parlour. Being biracial and having attended funerals of both black and white people, they are very different, and it 100% makes sense as to why black people would favour a black funeral parlour to tend to them after death. As said in the video, there is definitely a significant cultural difference.

@dinkster1729 Год назад

@@dionnebell9834 Why display the body? My sister wanted to see my father's body made up because she was there when he died. I do remember his barber saying, "That's not the way Horace did his hair." So he must have seen my father's open casket. It was definitely closed for the service and he was cremated. That was 33 years ago. Nowadays in Eastern Ontario a lot of people are cremated prior to the service and then, their urn is displayed. A cousin of my husband's had that type of display. It makes sense. Cheaper. Why display the body at all? My mother wanted immediate cremation. She didn't get it. My brother, niece and sister-in-law wanted to see the body. I asked my sister, "Was she clothed?" She was. I didn't want to see the body. I had visited my badly disabled mother for 2.5 years before she finally died. Why would I want to see her body? I did see my Grandmother's body before she died because I arrived just after she had passed away one evening. I don't even see the need for a funeral.

@mcfarofinha134 Год назад

the place i work in the states has black employees, so even if it's not their shift, we could always ask them for advice. Most places aren't like that tho

@beanieNX420 4 года назад

My grandmother, who is Southern Baptist, 76, calls herself "country" and very conservative, bought 7 inch red sparkly "Dorothy" shoes to be buried in. They are the most stripper-tastic things I've ever seen. It makes her beyond giddy to pull them out and show anyone who isn't aware of her plan even though she can't wear them or even stand in them currently.

@birdgirl8390 3 года назад

I love it 😂👠❤️

@christiamark9184 3 года назад

I love it. I hope she enjoys her heels later.

@angelsaltamontes7336 3 года назад

I DO hope your grandma will be SHOWING her red shoes to admiring many for a long, long time. We need her on THIS side long as we can have her.

@cemeterrihaynes4435 3 года назад

I love this!!

@PatinaEdochie 3 года назад

Adorable 👠👌🏽🥰

@gymeni 4 года назад

Thank you, Caitlin, for even “bothering” to do this piece. Many would have no interest in or concern about this important part of AMERICAN history.

@MaryDalton64 4 года назад

As a white woman who now lives in N.C., I just don't understand the attitude of people who don't care about such things. If you don't study ALL of the history, you don't get the full picture. Ignoring or avoiding the contributions, traditions and lives of the African American men and women, both slaves and free, who were such a vital part of the history and the daily life (and death) in this country means you miss out on so much amazing information, and will never begin to truly understand your own neighbors, the dynamics of your town and your country and it past and present. Around here I see people who either want to ignore, gloss over or rewrite the past to suit them, and that attitude just drives me insane. You can't erase the past, but you can and should, learn from it and that includes the painful and shameful parts as well as the positive ones.

@ember-brandt 4 года назад

@@MaryDalton64 Well said!!

@ladythiep2811 4 года назад

gymeni Caitlin is for the people. All people ❤️

@runiedunie 4 года назад

My family had a “life celebration” for my mother’s cousin and uncle who died in the same year. They were cremated, and we all gathered and just celebrated, laughed and remembered. I think that’s one of the best ways to remember someone.

@midgetwthahacksaw 4 года назад

That's what my family does. Except they aren't cremated but preserved and buried. But we get together, drink, laugh, cry, and remember the good times. We are Irish/Scottish/German though. That explains the drinking. :)

@wifeoftheparty9839 4 года назад

That's what my husband's family does. No one wears black either. They dress in bright, fun colors and spend the day laughing and smiling while telling stories and reminiscing. It's such a great way to say good-bye!

@Starlight_Silver 4 года назад

My brother planned that for his death from cancer and now we all want our own "Celebration of Life" instead of a dull, sad funeral.

@VeryNiceandall 4 года назад

I was curious about other the races like Hispanic and Asian. Do you know where these bodies were buried, and how they were treated? Was there segregation as well?

@MotherHemCreations 4 года назад

@@midgetwthahacksaw my husband is palliative and we are cremating him and having an irish wake when he passes

@miraclesblessings5044 2 года назад

As a black mortician...I LOVE THIS! This should screened in schools of mortuary sciences. We are privileged to assist grieving and bereaved families and give their loved ones dignity.

@doommagic 10 месяцев назад

As someone biracial from Georgia trying to get into the business because of misconceptions and repeatedly watching people I care about die and not being able to help....it would be great to hear someone else's advice in the industry. I'm half-Irish and half-Mississippi Delta black save for Grandpa from Phili (he was used to the Fresh Prince jokes). It's so difficult around here in the South because I have friends from every walk of life (my cousins are half-Laotian) and I don't want to make them feel left out at all just like I don't want to feel like nobody gets me as a mixed half-white/half-black girl. I don't expect white morticians to know what to do with my hair. It's not their fault. People don't think about what happens when a mixed kid dies.

@miraclesblessings5044 10 месяцев назад

@@doommagicsome families bring there own barbers and beauticians. They must have state licenses though.

@NyikoDoris 4 года назад

Dr. Fletcher spoke to my SOUL. A black funeral is a celebration, I don't know if black people in other countries have this but in South Africa most of us have what is called an "After Tears", a party of sorts with lively music, and dancing and drinking and conversation and laughter as memories of the late are shared. Our funerals go through the whole day. from like 6 am to late evening just surrounded by family and friends reminiscing and keeping it lighthearted

@smileprincess6834 3 года назад

So true, but our funerals actually start the day day before. When we have umlindo (the wait), and the body comes and it's praise and worship throughout the night, and then the next day is the actual funeral which, like you mentioned lasts all day, and then the after tears. I won't lie, it frustrates me, I never understood why we have to have a funeral for so long. But now I truly understand it's about a celebration of the life lost. *fellow South African* Covid has really screwed us and our customs. It's actually so sad.

@sg-cg6lr 3 года назад

I'm east african, we have "hazen" women gather inside with men and children outside. Food etc is brought for the relatives and women spend the day literally screaming until they can't anymore. If this isn't done that grief manifest in the body and sould and losses it chance to be expressed. The crying and wailing hurts so badly to hear. It's so very nessesary.

@serenity6831 3 года назад

Nigerians do something like this too!

@ThePhoenixThatRose 3 года назад

Yes, I am AfroColombian and my husband is African American and both our families do this. Back in my country there's always food, chat and sometimes music. Same with my husband's family, it's a pretty lively event. Remembering the deceased person and laughing about the good/funny times and celebrating who they were.

@Esquinawatusi 3 года назад

Very informative. I love learning about other's death rituals!

@Rose_Bride 4 года назад

This is the SECOND video of yours that I've watched. (First one was Moby Dick) As a Black female, I want to THANK YOU, not only for putting a spotlight on this issue, but for handling this with such compassion. ❤️

@saltlife5322 4 года назад

anthyrose2 that Moby Dick video🤯🤯. I felt so dumb that I hadn’t ever taken the time to read the book and that I’d never heard of the whalers or Nantucket. They sure didn’t teach that in any history class I was ever in🤔🤔🤫🤫🤥🤥🤥🥶

@AK-jt7kh 3 года назад

@@saltlife5322 They probably tried to teach you in English class but you didn’t read the book 😂 I didn’t know about that either though until Caitlin’s video, so, you’re not alone!

@gugasnow3657 3 года назад

Yes Moby Dick was a Horror Movie. They ate all the black folk. Lol. It's amazing when you study History getting indepth.

@rebecca75588 3 года назад

Its excellent and culturally informative

@aeonjoey3d 3 года назад

She's pretty awesome and respectful

@APG-fu6gk 4 года назад

Caitlin Doughty you tackle EVERY aspect of death with respect, humor, dignity and tact. Death is a fact of life. You have carved your own legacy!!!

@sarahanderson7927 4 года назад

This video actually explains a lot! My grandma passed away in 2019, but while she was alive she dedicated her life, with my grandpa, to end segregation in their town. To this day, in their rural Georgia town, there are black/white grocery stores, black/white restaurants, black/white churches, and black/white funeral homes- to the point where you cannot walk into one as a person of the wrong color. It was violent if a POC entered a “white” location/event. My grandparents were very religious, and focused mainly on bringing the churches together and hosting events with POC and whites. When my grandma was in hospice, she asked that she have her funeral at the white funeral home, but have her friend, a black pastor, give the ceremony. It doesn’t sound like a big deal to most people, but in the context it was a massive controversy. She was stirring the pot and forcing the town to come together even in her death (: Edit: Sorry I literally never check my youtube notifications! This really blew up! Thank you to all who replied, and for those asking what town it is, it's Douglas, GA. And to clarify, it's unofficially segregated. There aren't literal signs on the door that say "whites only" - but it's assumed.

@hushhush85 4 года назад

A beautiful though from your grandma ❤

@hushhush85 4 года назад

A beautiful though from your grandma ❤

@Lisa_the_Cottage_Witch 4 года назад

Even as she neared the end of this lifetime, she fought for equality. May she Rest In Peace.

@tandraallen8398 4 года назад

A true warrior! Beautiful!

@Lisabug2659 4 года назад

I live in Georgia and our family is a mix of religions, culture and race. I never gave it a thought when my very good friend invited me to attend her Mother’s funeral and wake in south Atlanta. I was warmly welcomed and the funeral was vastly different than my white Protestant experience. The funeral home was brimming with people, saddened at her passing but celebratory of her life. The vibe was very positive and the funeral home did a fabulous job, the lady looked like a beautiful angel. Hair and makeup perfect. I am glad I attended.

@angelasylvain2476 4 года назад

When my father died, my boss (who I worked for for 15 years) didn’t go to the funeral because he said he was afraid to go to a black funeral home. The irony there is, my dad was a police commander, so every cop in the city was there.

@largeautomobile 4 года назад

omg what did you say to your boss after that? I hope something along the lines of "what the fuck is wrong with you?!"

@ToryIsCooliest 4 года назад

Afraid of what? I'm confused

@anotherworldhopper5344 4 года назад

T Chu of ghosts, probably.

@ToryIsCooliest 4 года назад

@@anotherworldhopper5344 I can't tell if your answer is serious or not

@anotherworldhopper5344 4 года назад

T Chu ;)

@Liksterr97 4 года назад

I love how she talks about EVERY topic surrounding death. I’ve always talked about the differences from my experiences at funerals but I didn’t know it was this deep.

@taylor_twipster 4 года назад

I just graduated mortuary school and I did my practicum work for a predominantly black funeral home in the city. It was a wonderful experience and I was lucky to be able to get a taste of different services since I’m white and grew up in a mainly white small town. My mentors were wonderful and taught me so much. I will forever be grateful for that experience and I will use what I’ve learned to do my best to serve all families when I become licensed 😊

@HotCinnamon 3 года назад

You sound like an amazing young lady and I wish you all the best

@MrNeboff 3 года назад

I wish you good luck and pray you get your license in no time .

@twebster179 3 года назад

@@HotCinnamon we white people should not be congratulating other white people for doing the minimum...

@Kimmie6772 3 года назад

@@twebster179 however we see that many fail to do the "bare minimum" so we should encourage the attitude of getting over one's faults and accepting change. If change isnt encouraged, you wont get it. Now, if you're already in an area where that's not really an issue then yeah it's patronizing and doesnt make sense to congratulate such, but many places (such as the state I live in) still have towns that black americans are told not to stay in after dark. So, yes, apperantly the bare minimum is really difficult for people so sue me if I am impressed by it.

@eggplanthose 3 года назад

@@twebster179 I'd also add that getting a practicum placement isn't always easy depending on where you're located and not everyone can go to the same funeral homes. Suggesting that mortuary school graduates should all be doing their practicums in Black funeral homes as a "minimum" just isn't that practical.

@llkaygifts 2 года назад

I appreciate your presentation of the facts about black funeral culture and asking Dr. Fletcher to give voice to our stories

@debbied7035 4 года назад

My friends brother died behind the wheel of his semi, on the road somewhere in Tennessee. Luckily, he realized something was going terribly wrong and managed to pull off the road so no one was hurt. Since all the family was in SoCal, and his death was so sudden and unexpected he ended up at wherever the local coroner could find a funeral home to take him. He ended up at a "black" undertaker. His cousins who were closest to him handled all the details made all the over the phone. They said that they were treated so well and the undertaker was so kind to them, they didn't have anything but positive thanks for the care that was taken for him and the family. They still chuckle about one thing, he was a sort of prejudice jerk and the funeral home was a "Black" one.

@melindaroop1346 4 года назад

Oh the irony of that one!

@sheenaalexis8710 4 года назад

Debbie D I'm sure in death he learned a lot...next time you see him he won't be prejudice I bet...♡

@royfinch6830 4 года назад

Sounds like my wife's grandfather. He was 96 when he passed and she said he didn't like black people. He was a veteran and at the cemetery his honor guard was a mix of white and black. My wife laughed and said how ironic it was

@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937 4 года назад

Debbie D People who live around blacks are postjudice. Meaning they judge after the fact. You are Prejudice because you’re judging based on a guess.

@pamelaanis715 4 года назад

Karma

@kerri228 4 года назад

I could listen to Dr. Fletcher talk all day.

@ZukiTV 4 года назад

Right? I was just thinking that

@Weatheredstorms1 4 года назад

Me too!!!

@decemberlotus 4 года назад

So educational

@ebidy 4 года назад

She's so eloquent, it's beautiful.

@ThisBraveHeart 4 года назад

Her voice reminds me of soul food back home in South Carolina, like corn bread. Sweet, whole, filling, beautiful all the good things lol.

@bri_x_p9553 3 года назад

I really appreciate how Caitlin consulted a black historian to help tell our stories 🖤

@wiggy5209 3 года назад

If they are capable of empathy and are knowledgeable enough on the subject (having learned the subject from all perspectives and not bias) it shouldn't matter what race tells the stories ... Let's not create further segregation. I wouldn't mind any race talking about white history, as long as they have no bias and have all the facts straight because after all, all races can be professional and all people have the potential for understanding pain, suffering and lost. The only "plus" from having a black historian tell the story is that they may have a link to that they are talking about, which whilst being respectful of the subject matter, may enrich the understanding achieved.

@wiggy5209 3 года назад

*loss

@bri_x_p9553 3 года назад

@@wiggy5209 Good for you? White history hasn't been subject to complete erasure of accomplishments, culture, events, etc. (If that happens then your opinion might be relevant). When you've had to fight to have your history shared, then you start to care who is sharing it, so considering how completely white-washed history has been in every book, class, form of cinema, etc, it matters. Considering how we're *still* trying to make sure our voices are heard, and every salty snowflake wants to needlessly cry about it, (ha, the irony 🤡) it. Matters. There's a hundred other reasons, but unless you plan to cashapp me, you can educate yourself or you'll never understand. 🙃 Until then stop getting mad over things that [not only are completely out of your depth but also] don't concern you. Or just go be mad somewhere else. You're dismissed ✌🏽

@skullface2694 3 года назад

@@bri_x_p9553 this shit is racist af😅

@blobster91 3 года назад

How is that important? If the person is knowledgeable and empathetic then it doesn't matter who it is coming from.

@Zeruel3 4 года назад

The African-American way sounds quite nice, celebrating the person's life rather than focused entirely on lamenting their death, encouraging emotion not repressing it

@johnpalermo4466 4 года назад

💯

@myboyz9391 4 года назад

When my 24 year old son died from a heroin overdose 5 years ago I had a celebration of his life..not a funeral. He was cremated and we had a memorial service.

@gwencocoa 4 года назад

What a beautiful way to celebrate his life. May he rest in peace 💗

@Eidolon_of_Ashley 4 года назад

So sorry for your loss, may he rest in peace. I had a friend die of an overdose. No one knew she was even doing drugs so it was completely out of the blue.

@We_Are_All_Vultures 3 года назад

I'm a recovering addict. May he RIP 🕯️💕🌹

@rokukou 3 года назад

@@We_Are_All_Vultures addiction is a monster that everyone must face in varying degrees. i wish you the best of luck on your journey, stay strong.

@forsaken_ghost 3 года назад

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope the injuries left by the horrible event heal.

@DestinationDiscoveryIII 4 года назад

This was AMAZING! As an African-American who grew up in and around my uncles funeral home this is absolutely cultural! The FIRST question asked is "Who got the body"... We view this as a celebration! What do you do in a celebration? You sing, dance, remember the great times had with that person. It is a way to honor this individual in a way that only "we" can. At the same time supporting Black Businesses help to keep our culture alive and a teaching moment for everybody. Thanks for this. I am a huge fan!

@laddibugg 4 года назад

And if you don't like the place that has the body you can't say that outright 🤣

@ladycheyne5607 4 года назад

White people: Who's handling the arrangements? Black people: Who got the body? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣This is too true🤣🤣🤣

@riseandroot4530 4 года назад

D_Shawnda legit. My Big Mama’s funeral was all done in the community and the wailing and singing took two days, then another two for the actual funeral as we had to get EVERYBODY back. It is an EVENT.

@123cutieputtie 4 года назад

Yes this funerals are a sad and fun time. Yes you cry and you also dance and party. Tell stories about that person and eat good food. I've been to a white funeral and it was so sad like wtf!

@christiamark9184 4 года назад

Irish people do a 'wake', very similar. Lots of laughter, food, funny stories and drinking'.

@jennifermurdock945 3 года назад

This was one of the most historical and best episodes. Thank you Caitlin.

@audreyplaysnice2086 4 года назад

"radical death studies" sometimes a topic comes up you've never heard of but now want to know everything about.

@AK-jt7kh 3 года назад

Story of my life

@thatsawesome2060 3 года назад

@@AK-jt7kh radical life maybe, but "Radical Death" seriously?

@SerenityFeueropal 4 года назад

Legit the first time I've ever heard of cemeteries ever being separated by race. I didn't even know this was still an issue.

@KP-ul2ep 4 года назад

it makes sense, a racist person isn’t going to stop being prejudiced simply because a person died. you cannot show respect to the deseased if you wouldn’t respect them alive.

@filthybonnet 4 года назад

@Torchy Brown And from the north.

@TheLadyPossum 4 года назад

Serenity Feueropal Same. It never occurred to me that this could be a thing that happens.

@AshesAshes44 4 года назад

I'm white and knew this quite well. Your comments are kinda racist

@itsallgood4093 4 года назад

@Torchy Brown I think it might depend on where you are from. I'm from Kentucky and most of the cemeteries here are interracial and have been for a long time. Yes, in the older cemeteries I'm sure they were separated, but you can't tell a difference where one starts and the other ends. Yes I am white and no I'm not trying to argue, just making a comment about things being different in different areas of our country.

@wellesradio 4 года назад

Three separate outfits for three different viewings? That’s called going out in style.

@neuralmute 4 года назад

Like they said, Aretha was a Queen!

@daleeasterwood2683 4 года назад

Not to mention one helluva singer!!!

@applejellypucci 4 года назад

@@daleeasterwood2683 and a musical genius!

@helenchappell6502 4 года назад

Hey, she was Aretha.She was a goddess. Nothing was too good for her.

@PandaLilyZK 3 года назад

That bit about segregated pet cemeteries is mind boggling.

@tesmith47 3 года назад

you live in america??

@snazzypazzy 3 года назад

I honestly started to laugh because of the absurdity, then feel very sad about it. Every time I think I have some idea about the US history they tell me stuff like this and it just gets worse.

@WouldntULikeToKnow. 3 года назад

@@lorifilm go back to your cave.

@nacmegfeegle2310 3 года назад

To me, pet cemeteries of any kind is mind boggling, and I do love my pets. And then to layer on racism....I really wonder if people will ever evolve.

@diamondsdancing1547 2 года назад

@@lorifilm shiiiid I feeds my ancestors and been doing it since I’ve been able to provide for my self. My folks from Louisiana and it’s just law 🙅🏽‍♀️ they intercede for me when I sacrifice for them.

@rubio1219 4 года назад

As a Mexican American, I've been able to experience the "white", the "black" & the "Mexican" funeral. Though they all have different cultural rituals I believe as humans we all grieve a loved one's loss in th best way we know how. For Catholic Mexicans, we like to keep our dead with us through out the night prior to burying them as to "gaurd" their souls. The family and friends get together that night, we break bread, we drink coffee and toast to them. We sing, we pray we cry, we tell stories about them. We like to be as hands on as possible. After the funeral we do a multiple hail Mary's for 9 days where the family and friends get together to honor and pray for the loved one and their soul to pass safely to the "other side". I actually came across your channel after losing my cousin in 2017. I had to plan his funeral when I had no idea what I was doing. I questioned life and feared death a lot. This channel has really brought a lot of death related topics into perspective and I thank you for that. ❤

@puppydog12000 4 года назад

if you fear death can I please suggest the New Testament to you to read and the psalms please. With Jesus you will have no fear of death at all. I promise you that

@aerisvermell7231 4 года назад

@@puppydog12000 if I read a story where a pink unicorn tells me I'll go to a flower field in space when I die, should I not fear death either? The unicorn said I'll go to the space flower field!!

@chanceDdog2009 4 года назад

@@puppydog12000 let people mourn their own way. You mean well but have no empathy. If someone asks you for your opinion on religion, by all means do it. In this case, death has cultural relativistic acts you don't understand. And instead of respecting other people . You feel the need to correct them into your way of thinking. On a separate tangent You prove the point of the video that minorites can not mourn their dead in their own way without some one steping in or obstructing the greving process.

@janetscofield7740 4 года назад

@@strawberrybleach7715 there is nothing wrong with trying to offer comfort. People are free to take it or leave it. There was no judgment, just see if this helps. You are the one who attacked.

@janetscofield7740 4 года назад

@@chanceDdog2009 WOW! I hadn't read the other replies yet. Why so angry and snooty? When my best friend who is an atheist offers me comfort or encouragement or tells me "positive thoughts Honey" I know what it means to them. He is one of my greatest comforts in hard times and most wonderful to share the good with. If a person offers what they have to give out of love or concern I want to accept it in the spirit it is offered in. Even if their viewpoint is different I still take good feelings that they cared enough to try. Everyone is so ready to rush to judgment these days that even what is offered out of care or concern is often missed. Look for the good in others first, you might find it.

@ChristopherSadlowski 2 года назад

I highly recommend anyone attend a Black American funeral. They really show a totally different way to celebrate a life. There's something liberating about the unabashed expression of emotion. What a great video; it's prompted me to reminisce on the loved ones I've lost and all the different ways the various cultures I'm blessed to have experienced have honored a decedent. For me personally it's less remembering the tragedy of death and more remembering the life lived.

@saxs3351 4 года назад

I love how caitlin is all about minimal funerals but she’s able to recognise that for African Americans it was/is a way to support their community and empower themselves. This is such an interesting video.

@sidthroughtherabbithole4536 4 года назад

I’m so happy to see you starting this conversation in such a compassionate and tactful way. I love that you consulted a black expert, and that you let them educate and take up space instead of talking for them. This is how you aly ✊🏽

@blanchy 4 года назад

She would have great expertise even if she were not black though. ✊

@slimbaby4285 4 года назад

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 sidthroughtherabbithole

@xfallenxlostx3254 4 года назад

A friend of mine died suddenly of a heart attack at only 40 years old. His funeral was just like him...colorful and full of music. I wear all black (or very close to it) all the time, but for his life celebration I didn’t wear a stitch of black clothing. It was very hard (and honestly uncomfortable), but I wanted to honor him in the last way I could. I still have the little giraffe (his favorite animal) that we all were given on the way in.

@supermenka0 4 года назад

xfallenxlostx oh that so bittersweet it made me tear up

@fmfdocbotl4358 4 года назад

I have buried 15 family or friends in the past 10 yrs. I always wear some color instead of all black, but then again most of those I lost were colorful people who enjoyed life.

@sinneddennis3758 4 года назад

Nice I hope you treasure it.

@everyonedeservestogohome2949 4 года назад

A freaking amazing❤

@erika_7777 4 года назад

The last couple funerals I went to, I did wear some black, but I also wore a yellow skirt. It was nice to have both sad and happy moments during the funeral, with singing, smiling, crying, and hugging. So much nicer than when my grandma passed and everyone stood around talking quietly.

@kecenzhou4668 3 года назад

I marvel at the diversity of funeral traditions - especially ones born out of immense hardship. I think you should have guest speakers on your channel more often. You cover racism in death practices but it stands out when someone who is "in the know" has a voice.

@MikeB3542 4 года назад

"It is appalling that the most segregated hour of Christian America is eleven o'clock on Sunday morning" MLK Jr.

@barbaravyse660 4 года назад

I would love to go to a black church. The service seems so uplifting as opposed to the boring catholic mass I grew up with.

@eboniedreamz1371 4 года назад

EccentricSage wow that’s crazy. My dads side of the family is actually Catholic and I and my mothers side are Baptist formally Methodist. So hello I’m Ebonie and I’m mixed religion

@eboniedreamz1371 4 года назад

EccentricSage oh no I completely understand while my dads family has been practicing Catholicism for over 100 years there are segregated Catholic Churches. In the town where I live in Louisiana we have a Black Catholic Church and a white one literally right down the block from each other. I completely understand what you meant by your statement I was just giving you some insight into my world. And yes usually based off of what I’ve seen Catholics are usually white. But I do know many black ones. And it’s based at least from slavery times here. Black people couldn’t be in the same houses of worship as whites and so they started their own parishes.

@olly2027 4 года назад

Barbara Vyse same.

@olly2027 4 года назад

EccentricSage I was

@WhoRaq 4 года назад

Thank you for your careful choice in language. To say “enslaved Africans” instead of slaves is appreciated, a mistake made too often even by educators. Recognizing we were not slaves is a dignity we are not granted often enough.

@faithpatrick890 4 года назад

Thank you for this valuable information

@DarklordZagarna 4 года назад

I'm all for not being gratuitously rude to people (and I take no issue with the perfectly accurate term "enslaved Africans"), but you now seem to be asserting that those enslaved Africans were "not slaves," which is obviously false. Saying "James Johnson was a slave" is not depriving James Johnson of "dignity"; slavery is a legal and factual status, not a character trait, and it makes about as little sense to view someone as less "dignified" for having been enslaved as it does to claim that a murder victim is deprived of "dignity" by accurately describing them as having been murdered. In both instances, we would now recognize that person as having been subjected to, essentially, criminal behavior. If I say that James Johnson was a slave, it's not implying that he either wanted or deserved to be. Is this the latest version of "person with a disability" versus "disabled person"? I.e. pointless linguistic sniping intended to denigrate and feel superior to anyone who uses different terminology than you would prefer?

@softgender 4 года назад

@@DarklordZagarna Maybe it's just their personal preference, and if it becomes the more respectful way to refer to the Africans enslaved during that time, then it would be beneficial to everyone if you used the most up-to-date terminology without making it seem like a conspiracy of "superiority"

@tesmith47 4 года назад

@@DarklordZagarna you totally miss the point, the power of words AND DEFINITIONS

@titavaughns7698 4 года назад

I agree with the og comment. Reminds me how I keep trying to get people to say "Native American" rather than "Indian". It's proper etiquette

@365hillclimb 4 года назад

This is fascinating; I hadn't even considered the practical challenges of preparing the body of a black person, like hair or skin appearance differences.

@g1ng3rsn4ps 4 года назад

I'm a makeup artist for film/screen and it's even the same in life. Black/poc makeup artists and hair stylists know how to tend well to everyone mostly, but white artists/stylists are often dumbfounded when it comes to tending to Black/poc skin and hair. It *shouldn't* be a practical challenge, but sadly it is and has been for a long time in Life and in Death.

@olympicsongcontest7117 4 года назад

@@g1ng3rsn4ps how do u deal with it? Hi from Croatia🇭🇷

@j.j.714 4 года назад

Cam I remember seeing somewhere that sometimes it’s so bad that the actors/actresses have to bring their own makeup and do their own hair

@prlegal411 4 года назад

I have never thought of that either. Also makes me wonder other things about other cultures; so much so that I’m now officially in a rabbit hole of cultural ponderings. Like in some religions are women buried in their head covering of choice? What about the religious who don’t believe in cosmetics? How are their beliefs honored?

@edisonlima4647 4 года назад

@@prlegal411 There are also cultures/religions that are not fond of certain cosmetics but that are absolutely ok with others. It is, indeed, a rabbit hole, and one very intriguing at that.

@ArcanumV 4 года назад

I ran into this about 20 years ago when our department at work wanted to send flowers for a funeral. A department member's mother had died, and we knew the funeral was being held in a small Kentucky town. Today, you'd punch it into Google and find the local funeral home, probably with an online obituary. Back then, I ended up calling the local sheriff's office on their non-emergency line because it was the only number we could find. I got a friendly receptionist, and her most important question was whether the deceased was white or black. With that information, she could connect me to the right funeral home.

@Guillan80 4 года назад

Smh that horrible.

@joeyknight8272 4 года назад

That sucks

@noodlz7446 4 года назад

Accurate

@natashathomas1996 4 года назад

That’s incredibly racist. So sad.

@R.Williams 4 года назад

That makes sense. Probably one of each in a small town.

@Space_Lion_Cosplays 4 года назад

When my grandpa passed on, we wore colors. We sang his favorite hymns, we sang (poorly) the songs he loved to dance too. He rang bells and had drums. It was a very lively viewing

@FontSound 4 года назад

This is fascinating. When I worked in Queens, I didn't notice that there were specifically black and white funeral homes, however, black/African American funerals had distinct customs like printed programs with a printed eulogy and a photograph of the deceased. One caucasian funeral director from Jamaica (Queens) used to be very sensitive to culture, and traditions. He also had a good eye for matching skin tones when he did the cosmetic preparations, which I always thought was quite a talent. Unfortunately, he too has passed on. After watching this, I have a deeper appreciation for his level of professionalism. Caitlin, if you haven't thought about it already, I would love a video about funeral culture among Hispanics/Latinos in the US. There is a lot to dive into in this topic because there is a lot of diversity among us, depending on families' ancestry, how/when our families arrived, economics and where we've settled in the US. Thanks for making such fascinating content.

@ember-brandt 4 года назад

Respect to that funeral director from Queens. And YES, I would love a video on Hispanic / Latino death culture (American or Mexican!) ♥

@MiVidaBellisima 4 года назад

I appreciate the emphasis on both Hispanic and Latino rather than one or the other. For example, I’m Afro Latina (Puerto Rican) and I imagine many funerals within the afrolatinx community has significant African influence. (Hispanic refers to spanish heritage specifically. As a black Latina, I don’t identify as Hispanic.)

@toofew100 3 года назад

I’m white and I have always experienced White funerals as encompassing both mourning of the loved ones passing and celebration of their life. I have been to one black funeral, it was different but did the exact same thing ... mourning with celebration. Thank you for your insightful video.

@imlistening1137 4 года назад

I loved her question, "Do dead people even have a race?".

@stevenclopine6704 4 года назад

@Lyn well, I'm old so...

@stevenclopine6704 4 года назад

@Lyn how do I direct my comment to Caitlyn?

@lilyhat 4 года назад

Steven Clopine I’m not the person you were asking, but to make a comment directed to Caitlyn you need to put it in the “Add a public comment” area

@wizardofahhhhhhz 4 года назад

I’m from New Orleans, we have jazz funerals and they’re amazing. I appreciate this video!

@spacecat3198 4 года назад

New Orleans funerals look interesting and amazing. A total world apart from where I live. I wish people here had a better view of death.

@bubblybubbles4023 4 года назад

I want a New Orleans style funeral.🤗

@CharCanuck14 4 года назад

After watching this I was curious to find out if we had/have segregated funeral homes in Canada. Well, what a rabbit hole that led me down. Made me wonder how many people are aware of the horrendous segregation that existed in Canada. I'm still being blown away as I continue to research more about our sad African-Canadian history. Thank you Caitlin and Dr. Fletcher for this enlightening video.

@ACertainJustice 4 года назад

As someone who has lived in Halifax I can tell you that segregation is still a thing to this day. Like the First Nations communities in all of Canada, the black communities in Halifax still have significantly worse access to schools, hospitals, social programs, etc. The racial profiling from the police and mistreatment in the legal system is also totally nuts.

@KayKay114 4 года назад

Yes we are aware of segregation in Canada. Usually you are when you are one of the oppressed. Like I'm native so I have seen and experienced some of it all my life. I won't say I had it anywhere near as bad as my mother and her generation but it is still rampant in Canada.

@2GoatsInATrenchCoat 3 года назад

Thank you for saying this. The USA usually gets all the negative press for racial inequality, and we deserve it, but I think that Canadians and Europeans often pretend that racism is uniquely an American issue. It's not. Racism takes many different forms. It may be more overt and obvious in America, but it's certainly a problem in other countries as well. I've heard that Muslims and indigenous people in particular experience a lot of discrimination in Canada.

@CharCanuck14 3 года назад

@@2GoatsInATrenchCoat Very, very true, especially about First Nations people of Canada. That's another rabbit hole to dive into. For starters, looking into residential schools in Canada will bring tears to your eyes....a horrific government/church institution for indigenous children. It blows me away that the last one was closed in 1996!

@p-o2938 3 года назад

@@2GoatsInATrenchCoat Sadly there's racism all over the world. In China, Japan, Indonesia, etc. Humans aren't all that different from one another, it would seem :(.

@peter-peterpumpkineater4982 4 года назад

As an African it's nice to know that even across the ocean, funeral practices still remain very similar.

@debral.fluker127 3 года назад

I think it's sad we are separated still even in death. Freedom only in death. Are we separated in heaven??

@likekush09 3 года назад

@@debral.fluker127 probably 🤣😂I don't gaf about being separated tho🤷🏽‍♀️ I like who likes me no matter their color 🇳🇬🇺🇲

@Folsomdsf2 3 года назад

I mean, colonization across the continents REALLY stuffed it in a blender and put it on puree.

@kathleenobrien3473 4 года назад

I think Hattie McDaniel, the first black actress to win an Oscar, was refused burial at a cemetery because she was black

@jaimecroft8532 3 года назад

That is true. She finally has a cenotaph in the cemetery she wished to buried in, but her remains are buried in another.

@intorainbowzOG 3 года назад

@@jaimecroft8532 The cemetery under new owners offered to move her remains but her children declined the offer.

@kyleshanebeck5504 3 года назад

So wonderful to hear from Dr. Fletcher. What an important perspective, and hard reality for us to hear. Thank you so much for welcoming her and giving her the opportunity to educate us about her research and our history.

@MrBassman313 4 года назад

I was a paramedic in the inner city of Detroit for 16 years. I love love love how the African American culture handles death compared to many of the white/Caucasian type funerals i have attended. A celebration versus a mourn. I was fortunate enough to be an eye witness of The Queen of Souls funeral...breathtaking. Thank you so much for this video! Just my two cents! Love the content.

@kyra7849 3 года назад

I feel like Black cultures handle death better. They display their emotions instead of bottling it up and letting it fester.

@mr.timebombman2230 3 года назад

Blah blah blah

@classicambo9781 3 года назад

Man, you would have seen some crazy shit for 16 years in Detroit!

@hawkeyemadi 3 года назад

You should go on down New Orleans. They party the person into the next life. There's no crying and sad faces. It's food, drinks, music, and dance.

@LantanaLiz 3 года назад

Must be an American thing and not a white people thing. Over here in Australia it's a celebration as well.

@mellie4174 2 года назад

this was amazing! I lived in west africa so it was really cool to see the links between the traditions there and what has evolved from it in the USA. I learned tons from this video! thanks to both of you!

@melindaroop1346 4 года назад

The historic cemeteries are so important to take care of.

@PatrickPoet 4 года назад

Here in San Francisco they long since dug them up and moved them out of the high buck real estate.

@racheallange2056 4 года назад

@@PatrickPoet That is so sad to hear...But I know it happens...If the city wants it ..they get it one way or another...ugh They have no respect..

@sheenaalexis8710 4 года назад

Patrick another reason why I just don't like this world much...

@melindaroop1346 4 года назад

@@PatrickPoet That is SO wrong on so many levels. To me, the desecration of historic cemeteries is like erasing a piece of history. I'm so thankful that where I live, the historic cemeteries are preserved and seen as a piece of local folklore. I am near Fort Smith and Van Buren AR and both places have cemeteries listed on the national historic registry and the one in Van Buren has a fundraiser to preserve the monuments.

@mindyb1986 4 года назад

There is a cemetery down the road from me that is really overgrown and old. It's on a very steep hill which is probably part of the problem, but there were a lot of veteran markers from the revolutionary war and war of 1812 in there.

@louferrao2044 3 года назад

Dr. Fletfcher is keeping "OUR" history alive! Black history is American history and it is good that it is being preserved.

@theoriginaljayz28 3 года назад

I appreciate the knowledge. Black history and death within the black community is something that we all should know, understand, and respect.

@Wodenseyes 3 года назад

❤️

@anapellegrini1764 3 года назад

Why the need of aproppiation tho... This isnt about you

@louferrao2044 3 года назад

@@anapellegrini1764 Is it for you? If it's not American history, then hey would 73% of the population care? Get over yourself and smell the coffee.

@jxn1056 3 года назад

❤❤❤

@tirzah-marielewis3447 4 года назад

So well researched. When my mom died we had no clue the cemetary expected us to leave her elevated coffin just sitting there. We waited until they found a backhoe. Until she was covered she wasn't buried. My family still keeps 9-night (West African tradition translated through South American slavery) and also goes back after 1 year. Since I stayed in the city and others moved I and my children and husband go at least once per year and take care of the row of family there clearing stones, placing flowers and sending pics to the out of town family. I have done this for the better part of 20 years and will probably do it until its my turn. I don't mind it keeps me aware of the preciousness of life and the impact I can have on others as long as I have breath in my body.

@chrizeldabernil8323 4 года назад

😲We do this in the Philippines too! It's called Pa-siyam (literally "Ninth day"). It is generally believed by mostly Catholic Filipinos that the soul stays for 9 days after death. Good on you for taking care of her grave and taking your family to visit regularly. I bet it was also an enriching experience and an inspirational ritual to remember Grandma's memory and legacy.

@awg7068 4 года назад

Greek Orthodox do similar things.

@asunahusama 2 года назад

This was wonderful Caitlin. Thank you so much for covering this story and talking about a part of black history that alot us don't know about but is extremely important to talk about. Black History is American history and should be taught, proudly to every single American citizen. This was wonderful.

@snitcheyes411 4 года назад

It never even crossed my mind that cemeteries were racially divided. What the hell? I saw this video and I was all, "Why?" Now I know the historical 'why', but the fact that this still continues is just......ugh.

@mk-lr8ok 4 года назад

The left uses racism as a weapon. America isn't racist. They want the people divided. The term divide and conquer ring a bell. Together we are invincible. Divided we fall

@elvingearmasterirma7241 4 года назад

@@mk-lr8ok Believe whatever you want But America is still racist and it needs to be fixed.

@simpjuh12 4 года назад

@@mk-lr8ok Nah man. America is racist as hell, sorry to say. I don't live in America and the difference here is astounding. Is racism present? Sadly yes but in a much smaller number/scale

@Marigold98 4 года назад

@@mk-lr8ok as long as there are nazis in america, there is racism in america. Sorry to break it to you.

@jasminejaramillo5937 4 года назад

They want it like that though she even said that black people arent going to go to a white undertaker

@Moshe_Kraintz 4 года назад

Wow I worked in a funeral home and never thought about, we had no black clientele the whole 6 years I worked there.

@RKrk-jj2li 4 года назад

So what. Is this some kind of prerequisite when operating a business?

@classicambo9781 4 года назад

No but if a whole segment of a community are not using a service you are providing - a service that everyone is going to need at some point - doesn't it make you wonder why? Do they fear that their loved ones won't be treated properly? Doesn't that horrify you?

@casey-capri2914 4 года назад

It's never something I considered either. It's extremely interesting. It's a shame that even in 2020 there are still areas where we are separated. We really need to find a way to move forward TOGETHER.

@_chade 4 года назад

RK rk Relax. It’s not a racial issue so much as it is an adopted mentality that has perpetuated through generations.

@dadaguiar 4 года назад

thechad did you watch the video?

@TheKnitch 4 года назад

Aretha Franklin's funeral was a joyous, loving, celebration of her life. We should all be so fortunate to be remembered so.

@ivdddoxiemama7275 4 года назад

She was such a beautiful, kind,talented woman!!RIP Aretha🙏🙏💖

@ritaloy8338 4 года назад

I remember watching the funeral of Ray Charles and that was a great celebration.

@johanvajse8410 4 года назад

I'm still in denial about her death. is that bad?

@jeffslote9671 4 года назад

No It wasn't. It was trashy from start to finish.

@terintiaflavius3349 4 года назад

The singing was beautiful but some of the celebrities behaved poorly.

@JohnOwenful 4 года назад

Thank you for covering this part of our history that is often forgotten. A forgotten black cemetery was just uncovered near me in rural Alabama.

@katieruss9012 4 года назад

Which part? I'm in alabama also

@jelllllllly4954 4 года назад

This reminds me of a plantation in Charleston, SC I went to and when I explored the swamp area behind the plantation grounds we stumbled upon a few graves that were overgrown with tiny unreadable tombstones. I’m sure those were slave graves and it broke my heart.

@actuallyNo... 4 года назад

Sure, huh? There's always an awful lot of sureness from people who go wherever they want , on property that isnt their's , they shouldnt be on , and call it "exploring".

@SweetKonekoCat 4 года назад

@@actuallyNo... There are many plantations open to the public, open as historic sites or open for tours. I'm sure every piece of land is owned by somebody, but I wouldn't let that stop you from exploring and discovering new places for yourself where you are allowed.

@nunyabiznez6381 4 года назад

Those were not slave graves. Slaves never got tomb stones. In fact most White southerners didn't get tomb stones. Tomb stones were prohibitively expensive so most people got a wood marker usually in the shape of a cross. Eventually the marker would rot and need to be replaced. When there was no one left to replace the marker the grave became unmarked. This is why there are fewer than half the number of marked graves in this country as there have been people who have lived and died in this country. Even today, many people don't get markers and that is not limited to cremated dead. While most who are buried get either a plastic or little metal marker at the least, those don't last forever. Eventually they disintegrate and if there are no surviving family to pay for a stone then the dead doesn't get one. If the grave markers were made of slate they could date back to the 18th or early 19th century. If the grave markers are white marble then they are almost certainly 19th to early 20th century. If the grave markers are granite they are late 19th century or afterwards. Now they could be former slaves though even this was unusual until late in the 19th century.

@actuallyNo... 4 года назад

@@nunyabiznez6381 , yea.. that was purdy much my point althow I disnt really get into it. That's why insaid..'[h you're sooo sure, eh?"....come on people. She obviously went walkin around on someone else s property without permission and decided what was what with her own 'brain' power. Be sad ther were slaves but dont start tellin folks what what on a piece a property u know zero about.

@emilyruhnke6143 3 года назад

This video needs more exposure, history like this is important as it still effects us today

@JAEJ82 4 года назад

*drops everything to watch a new Caitlin video*

@bucklesmagee3806 4 года назад

🥂clink

@452xi 4 года назад

🥂

@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289 4 года назад

Me too.

@AnneGreystoke 4 года назад

Yup

@applejellypucci 4 года назад

🥀

@teenamlewis 4 года назад

Kaitlyn, When I thought I already had enough reasons why you are my favorite RU-vidr and this is my favorite channel you create more awareness and more insight into topics no one wants to discuss. Plus you sense of humor is to die for! 😂.... 😑 dont judge me lol

@sourgummiez 4 года назад

I had zero idea there was ANY separation here after death. NONE. I didn’t know that they were treated as second class, including the actual cemeteries :( Thank you for making this video and opening my eyes to something I had no idea was a thing! I love what another commenter said about the man at the crematory asking “did you want to get into black or white heaven?” Hahahaha 🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤

@salenebrom6476 4 года назад

Courtney Heart 👏🏻👏🏻

@brooklynpuerto1596 4 года назад

Same here ... I did not know and even in death they were separated

@gottiey 4 года назад

I know!! It seems crazy to have them separate and that the legacy of segregation still has such a huge influence today!

@Ali_D_Katt 4 года назад

I never really considered it but I suppose it seems on brand since they (among other things) separated bathrooms, like she said do you really have a race when you're dead, I pose the question do you have a race when ya gotta poop(not that any of the other segregated things make sense either). Although for some reason since the beginning of the human race we've been doing everything we can to draw lines, poc/white, man/woman, rich/poor, protestant /Catholic, atheist/Abrahamic, lgbtqia+/straight, I'll never understand why we insist on doing these things to each other.

@gottiey 4 года назад

@@Ali_D_Katt yeah good point. I guess humans are tribal and apparently it's easy to blame the "other" when things go wrong. I heard someone talking about in caveman times, when disease would spread, youd want to stick with your "pack", for lack of a better word, because the outsider is where the disease might come from, they represent a threat. I guess visible differences like race make it easy to draw a line between groups. What's even crazier though is when people are xenophobic towards groups that look the same and there's no way of telling that person is "other" until you do a little digging. And people can then despise them when two mins ago, before they knew that person was jewish/catholic/gay/whatever you like, they would have been fine with them.

@nancybeach5821 3 года назад

Thank you to both ladies for this video, these are the types of history lessons this country needs more of! Well done!

@missxvincent 4 года назад

Bewailment. I love that term. I love the concept of fully and openly grieving. When "Six Feet Under" was still new, and I first viewed the scene of Nate recalling the Italian widows screaming and crying and tearing at their clothing & hair, it hit me like a brick that's stuck with me ever since. American culture tries to hide grief away while simultaneously equating your level of grief with your level of love. If you show too little grief for too little time, you don't love them enough; show too much for too long and there's something wrong with you, but you're often perceived as loving the deceased more. We should bewail our dead if we need to.

@penfold5095 4 года назад

Interesting video. As a European (Scotland) I have watched this video open mouthed at the attitude in the USA. The pet cemetery mentioned at the end absolutely beggers belief.

@daisyfox2452 4 года назад

We have some pretty serious issues over here.

@germyw 4 года назад

Racism is the craziest, most senseless, petty shit. You just don't know.

@missmegancarlene 4 года назад

I live in Canada and the culture here is so much different than the US. Not saying we don't have our issues, we do, just as most countries do, but racism is so engrained in US culture, it's disgusting to witness as an outsider. The difference between Canada and the US is shocking considering I can actually see the US from some points in my city.

@jeninegrasc8414 4 года назад

Megan Brynildsen I know. 🇨🇦 too, and in AB no less, where 90% of the racists of 🇨🇦 tend to live, and this still was bat💩shit crazy to me. What a tragic country.

@reallyrandomthings615 2 года назад

This is fascinating...I feel grateful I found this and I have learned so much through this. Dr. Fletcher was a great guest. Note: My Brother recently bought a 1968 limo. It was bought by a local black funeral home new and was sold to 1 other family whom he bought it from. I will share with him some of this incredible history.

@calilovett2063 4 года назад

I think I could listen to Dr. Fletcher for hours, she's so interesting and charismatic.

@NexusGas 4 года назад

That very last bit about segregated PET cemeteries is absolutely insane.

@arhafrench5319 3 года назад

I wish I could personally thank Caitlin for this video! 💐 Age and Death take us ALL in the end, and grief on that day is no time to endorse such petty separation.

@megsmadmumble 4 года назад

I'VE BEEN THERE! I grew up in the area and my great grandma is buried there!

@missmoxie9188 4 года назад

MsMegs Madmumble that’s awesome

@DenitaArnold 4 года назад

I'm glad that this cemetery is being fixed up. Everyone deserves a respectful burial

@nadiamarie9833 4 года назад

Can we all agree that we need to see her again?? I feel like I learned so much from her in this video

@theanimefan00 4 года назад

The "africans dancing with a coffin" meme came to my mind. How wonderful, how another cultures treat their deceased loved ones so differently on the last jurney.

@127BobbyRay 4 года назад

Yes it is. Why be sad when you can throw a party celebrating that individuals life. This is not a sarcastic statement either.

@CheerUp2 4 года назад

@@127BobbyRay I feel like I would be laughing and crying at the same time

@charmcitynaturalhair4638 4 года назад

I love this channel for indulging my death curiosity as well as teaching me so much. As a Black Woman from Baltimore, I was touched as well as enlightened by the info in this video. Thank you Caitlyn. And tshirts are a way to memorialize the decedent & represent them. It’s become more common in the last 15 yrs or so...

@feef94 2 года назад

I love this video. Thank you for bringing attention to this divide, traditions, and parts of history. As a hairstylist (and interested in doing hair in a mortuary setting some day) I’ve always made it a point to be able to cut, color, and style every hair type. I hope to see more people in the industry and cosmetology schools start teaching how to do ALL hair types so we can best service the whole of the communities we live in.

@beanybabyrabie 10 месяцев назад

Unfortunately MANY believe you shouldn’t be touching black hair and that you’re stealing business for black artists. Sad.

@seanc3362 4 года назад

I’ve never understood racism as it is today. Thank you for this history lesson. The legacy of black culture is beautiful.

@melyssa_rene2465 3 года назад

THANK YOU for making this video as a women of color you have motivated me to pursue my dream career in Mortuary science. Especially being a WOMEN and then one of color will open so many doors for me and mine. As well as motivate others in my communities

@stankapusheaux4810 3 года назад

*woman

@sarmegwantwatchmovie 2 года назад

I wish you all the best ❤

@Natalie-101 2 года назад

I'm so happy for you! I hope it's going well!

@bobbyoftheshire3490 2 года назад

Equality, because you are a women and deserve the respect and dignity like anyone else. Of color, those days are over. You have a amazing history you should never forget. You are seen just like anyone else now and the world and accomplishments are what you make them. You are no longer disadvantaged (hopefully). So simply you are a successful women. "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." - MLK Jr.

@missbizy 3 года назад

This is really interesting. I actually never knew there was a racial divide between the funerals and cemeteries. Thank you for educating me.

@bumblebee560 4 года назад

I *love* how these videos are done. Acknowledgement of people's feelings, fears, and sensitivities, and yet a courageous and candid sharing of information. They're spooky but not sensationalized, and when it starts getting too dark the tone lightens with a joke or other bit of silliness.

@marieabrahamsen6580 2 года назад

OMG is this interesting! I'm a sociology student who recently stumbled upon your channel, and there's so many things and topics I've never considered when it comes to our rituals and culture as a society. How we die, how we're treated and what we consider morbid or not is completely linked to social science, even tho I've only socially studied the living till now. This video really made e want to look further into this!

@danice1234able 4 года назад

Thank you for talking about this, I learn more about my culture every day. As a black woman, I’ve gone to many family funerals and they are definitely never a solemn affair. There would be hymns sang, memorial videos, and a remembrance party after with lots of comfort food and music.

@thcu 4 года назад

I mean yeah think about it: this world can be hard but the one thing it can't take away it a life celebrated for living the best you could while you could

@kaebiji 4 года назад

This is really insightful. I've always admired how respectful you are, especially when looking at diverse groups. You're very well spoken and informative. Thank you for sharing this video with us.

@CleoPhoenixRT 4 года назад

Thank you for this video Caitlin. In Birmingham Alabama, My mom, aunts, uncles and grandmother's funeral were all done by the same black owned funeral home that operated for decades. A funeral is a *Homecoming Celebration* with them dressed in their finest and we celebrate their life and the fact that they are now with God in a better place with songs and the pastor always does the eulogy in a powerful sermon. I never thought about these differences before. What a great video. Wait a minute...a segregated pet cemetery? What in the world....

@heydieckels2267 2 года назад

Since finding your page I have looked at death differently. I love watching this. This is the best video I LOVE IT.

@randomvielleuse527 4 года назад

This was fascinating, and deeply moving. Also, incredibly troubling. I am so sorry that people of color still have to endure the insanity that is racism, even in death.

@katrinaumana2127 4 года назад

I really like the New Orleans style or West African style funeral. Dancing and singing a true celebration of life 👏🏽

@oliverwilson11 4 года назад

"The Collective for Radical Death Studies" sounds so cool

@anitacurnutt7641 2 года назад

Thank you for making this video. So much information, what an eye opener...just so sad that people were treated so disrepectfully.

@princessjesstarca 4 года назад

I love how informative this video is. As someone who is curious to a fault, I’m glad to have a better understanding about how this process is different amongst cultures and their views on proper burials. I agree with you and Dr Fletcher that it doesn’t make any sense to have segregation in a pet cemetery.

@debbieculpepper2260 4 года назад

Watch The Casketeers on Netflix

@simppinto6841 4 года назад

Giiirl this was a whole eyeopener. I live in Suriname and always aksked myself why do we bury our loved ones after 7 to 10 days mostly. The history of the story has other angles here.

@robertewebb2able 2 года назад

This was wonderful. Thank you for visiting this subject with such respect and academic acumen and accuracy.

@daleeasterwood2683 4 года назад

I would not consider myself a death enthusiast by any stretch of the imagination, but I am fascinated by Caitlin’s videos and her presentation. I have also learned a lot about the industry. It is shameful that in the 21st century racism still abounds, even in death. As an FYI, my father’s first real job was as a mortician in Texas.

@haleyjoy1377 4 года назад

This video was done so well. Dr. Kami is such an intelligent women and I learned so much from both of the ladies in this video! Thank you for shedding a light on this topic that our education system won’t!

@droopsnoot5038 4 года назад

I came here to watch this with the question "They are?"

@eholly3568 4 года назад

Maybe it’s a regional thing because central California is mixed. 🤷🏽‍♀️

@dreiaparratt787 4 года назад

It's a cultural thing as stated at the very beginning. Unfortunately, white people arent as versed (though it's getting better) in making black people look good. Also, restrictions of white funeral homes dont always cater to the culture that comes with black funerals. Comments like these are why colorblindness isnt the best method when you are unaware of history or cultural differences. Expand your worldviews a bit.

@mermaidmersea7113 3 года назад

WOW! Just wow! I don't even know what to say! Thank you. Caitlin! Thank you, Dr.Fletcher!

@Ambuhsofly 4 года назад

This is one of the best videos you have ever made. I was completely unaware and uneducated on this subject. How incredible were the black undertakers? Imagine if more people did what they did for their own communities. I'm so glad I know this piece of history.

@NatalynTheRockerGurl 4 года назад

Amber Riley a black undertaker once helped a civil rights activist escape lynching by using his funeral home as a hideout and a hearse as a getaway vehicle

@NatalynTheRockerGurl 4 года назад

A.G.Gaston, millionaire undertaker and civil rights activist, once threatened a local bank that he’d take his millions out of it if they didn’t get rid of their segregated water fountains

@abbyxoxo48 4 года назад

When a friend of mine died, his family had tshirts made for his close friends and family and sold them to extended friends and family to raise money to cover the funeral costs.