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You guys remember the year Crossfit started actually implementing PED testing? Registration for participants went down by 50% that year at regional competitions because guys and girls couldn't figure out how to cycle off to test clean.
nope, its mostly the gear....and its sickening. JUST BE HONEST. and its OK! nobody cares because we are all tired of lizzo being called good looking. and STOP with the 'im an elite athlete'.....NO, YOURE NOT!!! youre an above average person that become a biochemical factory. if you were elite, your be getting paid to play a sport people watch.
@@vegasprogambler5336Dude yes, they are on gear. However, without great genetics, all the juice in the world won't make you look like them. Tons of guys running a lab on themselves that look like they barely lift.
Crossfits drug testing is still privatized right? Any top athlete bringing in $$$$ for the sport isnt getting banned because they use PEDS. they all use PEDs and everyone is on the same page about it.
No they don’t yall don’t realize what the human body is truly capable of and they have the most balanced protocols to get fit so why wouldn’t they have the best results it’s simple logic you just don’t have the discipline they do to keep at something
They do test at the CrossFit games but by then your cycled off all that shit. Drugs primarily help you recover. There are drugs that help performance directly like EPO. If I was a professional I would 100% be using drugs to recover it makes sense.
I know a lot of people that do crossfit and they are not jacked or athletic, but those sponsored "pros" are. The same goes for bodybuilding and powerlifting. The secret is in the juice🤯
@@snapduke nah dude. You can tell the sport is juiced to the gills because all of the top female athletes are just as jacked as the men. Don't be silly.
Dane Dane Dane... come on my man. Having this conversation without discussing cycles is silly. I personally know several top pros and lots of regional athletes, they are all on some level of performance enhancement throughout their training. It has been widely discussed for some time now what many are taking... if you can't pass tests whether scheduled or randomized you simply don't know the right folks in the game. Bioidentical hormones, short half lifes, and simply knowing how to cycle outside competition windows is old nees... what is out there now is altered chemical structures that don't even show up on the most sensitive of testing parameters. Advanced training models have been around for decades, amazing physiques the same, and guess what so have PEDs, hell until the early 90s seen Anabolics and Androgenics get put on the scheduled list of illegal substances, sports of all kinds used them even down to the high school level... I know personally as our football coaches in the 80s made them regularly available to kids. Not bashing crossfit here... I'll do that to my friends in person who participate lol, just saying be transparent to the community you serve here... you mention top athletes in the video so at least acknowledge the sport is filled with the use of PEDs that help to deliver the results they achieve.
Everything is filled with it. Does that mean it's necessary for everyone? No. So why should he mention it? You can literally look like and compete like a jacked, crossfitter, by putting in the work. Just like certain branches of the military. This comment definitely looks like it should be directed towards bodybuilding. Unless you label "pre-workout" as an enhancer and you're not saying it.
It doesn't matter how great your genetics, a physique like Mat Fraser at 5'6" 195lbs at 11-13% body fat doesn't occur without the use of gear. While such a level of achievement doesn't happen without tons of hard work(just speaking of physique alone), but nevertheless.
Convenient excuse. I think we need to remember that these are some of the fitest people on the planet. They're genetic freaks. They are big and ripped but there are people who are natural and can look similar. Genetics and hard work make up for a lot. Some are on gear of course. A few have been popped but someone who knows what theyre doing could beat the tests Im sure. Drug testing has to be strict in CrossFit because it can have a massive influence.
No, to reall get jacked you also need to eat right, sleep enough and stay away from alcohol - but even if you don't you will notice a positive change in yout physique in as little as a year - keep on keeping on!
I did CrossFit for almost 6 years and competed locally. As a former HS football and track athlete and an active duty Marine during this time frame. The physique I achieved during this timeframe was top notch, due to my foundation in fitness and the programming from my local box. The physiques these athletes achieve are based on the programming, nutrition, and recovery systems they have in place. Everyone that achieves a physique like this doesn’t have to be on gear. It’s really being active with the programming daily, with adequate recovery placed in it, and dialed in nutrition.
I love CrossFit. I don’t understand the hate. The best thing you can do is moving your body for health purposes. Just going to the gym alone you’re already a winner. There’s no good or bad workout as long as you know your limits and and be careful with it especially hard movements. It’s really a waste of time to hate on each sports. All you have to do is workout. Eat healthy. Have a clear mind. Then you’re good! Also, CrossFit community is everything. Having people supporting you and cheering you on is super positive! Do what you love!
I remember watching the crossfit games one year,and noticing the abdomens on some of the top female competitors. They were defined,but bloated looking. Remined me of some pro bodybuilders.
I did CrossFit for a year and a half. And while ill say it helped with my overall endurance, maybe one or two people out of the entrire gym of 50 members looked remotely jacked. I also feel like i got weaker in the three core lifts.
You were doing it wrong or your gym was programming wrong, either way it was not crossfit that made you weaker everyone I know who follows a program gets stronger, fitter and more "jacked"
@@banks7714 I was doing predominantly powerlifting prior to CF so it would make sense to become weaker since CF doesn't focus on weight work as much as the former. I can count on 1 hand how many times we would actually bench. And probably no more than 10 times that we did deadlifting.
@CalculatingSigma92 then the programming is poorly written, the volume is inadequate, progressions aren't correct, no accessory work etc. It's hard if you're going to a class but it can still be done. The program I'm on is a 2hr per day program, we do 2 lifts per day and 2 conditioning pieces per day or 1 conditioning piece and 1 accessory piece. We bench and deadlift weekly.
If your goal is to get "jacked", train like a bodybuilder. Not to say you can't build some muscle doing CrossFit, that's just not the main goal. It's just a much more direct process to avoid all the excess conditioning and skill work and just focus on hypertrophy exclusively.
For the professionals: many are on drugs. Combined with: having the money to spend hundreds of dollars a week on high quality food. They also Have no other job except to train CrossFit 3-4 hours a day. Matt Fraser’s HWPO program is literally 3 workouts a dwy, 6 days a week. Why? Because there’s so many skills you have to be good at in ordered to be a champion in that sport. Most humans can’t do that unless you’re eating 5000 calories a day, have a massage therapist etc. Some professional athletes don’t have the physique of CrossFit athletes, which is crazy.
While this is true for some athletes, there are still a lot of Game contenders who work full time jobs - CF isn't that lukrative, and even though there are some that have sponsoreships to lead the live you describe - that goes for the smallest part of them.
The top crossfitter is jacked just like in any sport. I guarantee genetics has something to do with that. You’re not looking at medium crossfitters where there’s a lot of average looking athletes, just like most weekend warrior.
They are, but Crossfit runs the testing. It's not an unbiased 3rd party. #1 athlete pops? No one needs to know. There's also interviews with crossfitters at the highest level talking about how little they get tested.
@@kenxiong6830yet she got wider back than u , doing that kipping. Even if its kipping it’s moving the same muscle group , but that muscle group isn’t under tension as u would have when doing a normal pull-up, which doesn’t matter in CrossFit because they do volume , and volume as time going on will build muscle. Which is basically what everyone trying to do
Thank you for your upload Brother I always super appreciate your content I am always glad as it consolidates my own research & understanding with a sometimes new perspective! One thing that is a shame to see is that both yourself & the crossfit athletes do not know how to row on the erg. I was trained by Olympic coxswain Known to me as Woody & loved & respected by his charges so much that they bought him a DB9 as a present! Woody taught me to drive from the ball of your foot through the legs, once legs are straight you begin pulling with the arms, when the arms are almost bent you lean back just a mm (small amount) then you reverse this, sit-up, arms straight & legs are STILL STRAIGHT no you can bend legs back to start otherwise your power platform is not stable & energy dissipates into the ambient environment namely the AIR not the water or erg platform with leverage ergo you lose leverage anchor point & ergo power to propel to the finish line! Peace & Love!!!
Yea fully tested 3rd party would be needed to know forsure. Doesn’t change the respect for work ethic / dedication. Respect all around. But natty for life.
Here are another 3 components that are Crossfit 1. High rate of PEDs 2. High rate of injury 3. High rate of extreme poor and technically dangerous technique .
And yet far less injury than soccer and other non-contact sports, and significantly better strength and fitness results than any other fitness methodology
@@harrymc523 the number of soccer players is orders of magnitude greater than the number of crossfitters though so this really depends. You'll need to post a source for your info especially for number of injuries relative to the population size of players.
I've never seen a jacked regular crossfitter but I have seen jacked regular gym goers even calisthenics enjoyers. Crossfit in itself shouldn't make people look jacked, thats the PED doing the work but instead it should make you more fit and leaner if done correctly. Being jacked and crossfit doesn't mix unless you add the PEDs in the Elite levels and even then the physiques are night and day, usually the podium places vs the ones who finish last.
Okay why they are jacked is cuz they lift weights…😐 also they are short. Rich Froning is 5’8, Noah Ohlson is 5’7, Matt Fraser is 5’6, Josh Bridges is 5’4
Those short athletes aren't jacked because they are short. There are plenty of tall, jacked CrossFit athletes. Those guys do have an advantage in most CrossFit disciplines because they are short. CrossFit might be one of the only sports that short people have an advantage..
😂😂 why they so jacked ,, In fact, testosterone injections without training were at least as effective as resistance training (without injections). The same patterns were observed for muscle strength gains.,,, now imagine you train hard on top of that ,, i rest my case .
Absolutely. The times at which they are finishing those workouts are inhuman. A lot of amateurs could probably handle the volume but not the intensity. Meaning they could complete the workout but not efficiently or fast enough. To be a pro in that sport you have to be on a variety of drugs to help with recovery because of how intense the sessions are. Most humans can not casually clean 365lbs, deadlift 500, do a Murph in under 35 mins etc Or have a two hour massage every night and drink electrolytes and 400g of protein on a 24 hour cycle indefinitely combined with 10 hours of sleep a night. Even then given the amount of volume at a competitive CrossFit level I still doubt you could do it without drugs
Pro Crossfitters are also bang on every available PED they can get their hands on to boost performance to give them the edge over competition! So lots of Anabolic Steroids, HGH, Ephedrine, Clenbuterol, every Peptide and SARM that applies etc etc etc. I`d say that Crossfit athletes could well challenge Pro Cyclists for the highest amount of PEDs used!
And in all seriousness, let’s not forget that most of the males are about 5’9. That’s not a knock on being under 6 feet tall but fact of the matter is, it is easier to look muscled.
so...they powerlift and condition at the same time? so they're...somehow bodybuilding...for strength? and fitness? at the same time? so they're insane. like, clinically. got it
@@billking8843 the exercises have some effect too because you mostly build whatever muscles you train but the amount of muscle they build is because of the juice
There was a woman at the gym I went to who competed in Crossfit games and her training regime was very conventional (ie a consistent set of exercises, instead of WODs, and done in sets of 10ish instead of AMRAP). CrossFit style training seems to have lots of intensity but not enough consistency. And that might lead to it causing more injuries than conventional training.
Coordination is critical, and it spikes your heart rate from one hand, but also, you can only dominate the movement if you know how to engage your core and hip, lats shoulder, and back well. Let's say that it's a rhythmic movement that engages many muscle groups. At the same time, there is a strength part in a Crossfit session and then the WOD part. Generally, in the strength part, we use a lot of Strict pull-ups and weighted pull-ups for strength reasons, while in WODs, you use those kipping variations to increase volume and fulfill the high-intensity workouts.
Efficiency. Getting your chin over the bar,or chest to the bar, as easy as possible using your lower body to assist you. Benefits: creates muscular endurance in your shoulders, arms, and grip. Keeps your intensity up in the workout. While these butterfly and kipping pull-ups are done in high-intensity workouts. Strict pull-ups are done in accessory work. All of these ignorant people don’t realize that strict and weighted pull-ups are very often done in crossfit gyms. A good crossfit coach wouldn’t allow their members to even attempt butterfly pull-ups w/o the prerequisite of them doing at least 5 or more strict pull-ups first. Strict pull-ups first, then kipping, then butterfly. I’ve never had anyone injure their shoulders due to butterfly pull-ups.
Go watch Glassman's original Crossfit seminars. Kipping pull-ups were never meant to be done like they're done in calisthenics. Crossfit is about increasing your work capacity, which is force over distance over time. Crossfit is trying to produce an entirely different adaptation than isolation exercises.
Well we know cardio as well as conditioning can build work capacity and strength is an expression of force over distance over time so even though you don't get much strength while in a hypertrophy range, and sometimes they go outside of it, you still build the mononucleosi as well as plenty of fibrous-peak-flexing, since most of the movements they do are concentric dominated
Every time there’s someone explaining how people train there’s the majority who barely does any kind of physical exercise never strive towards his best version but are the first ones to talk about PEDs , well with or without you still have to put the effort in and still need the discipline and sacrifice to achieve your best regardless of what they are using, so until you been in their shoes you should mind your business, why so much envy and hate?
No one disagrees that they are jacked and athletic but when i see those ridicilous kipping pullups i switch channel immediately. How about instead 21 so called pullups they do 10 strict pullups. Perfect form。
Couldn't you say this about the "average fitness Joe" of any sport? Go to any commercial gym and you will see loads of incredibly unimpressive physiques of people who are trying their best to get as jacked as possible. Isn't it obvious that the elites in any sport will be more impressive?
Those girls (not talking about directly about the girls on this video) with big waist are ALL on steroids and other stuff. Exercises itself can't do that. Anyway, some of them has freaking beastly huge physiques.
In my opinion, (did crossfit for 4 years) its the "prison effect". They have an environment to naturally boost their testosterone, constantly being pushed to their limits in training with peers.
The girls are jacked!! I wouldn’t say the dudes are jacked. The guys look like every dude between 190-220 lbs that lift serious. I hear a lot of steroid comments, although most people I train that use steroids are your normal every day gym goer not the amateur or professional athletes.
