That a Haas left the pits with a jack still attached says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. On the DHL fastest lap leaderboard they have literally 0 points so the FIA's "slower is safer" is just pure nonsense!
Yep, no correlation between super fast pit stop times and unsafe releases. The difference is clearly in training and skill. The FIA might as well red flag every race, so all the teams can get a free pit stop, you know, for "safety". Or just let Pirelli make tires that can last the whole race and remove the mandate for having to stop at all.
The Haas pitcrew is a full second slower on average than the Red Bull crew that it affects the most. Haas is the only team I can remember that had an unsafe moment with releasing a car with the wheel not attached properly during the last 5 years. During the last 2 seasons Haas performed as many
I fully agree, and adding extra procedures in pit won't increase safety but just add chaos. I don't think it will hurt RB directly. Instead of 2.0 it will take them 2.3, Mercedes instead of 2.5 ->2.9 and Haas 3.0 ->3.6 most likely. But I can see the problem for RB that their every pit stop will be questioned by Mercedes as unsafe and too fast and they will have to look closely at every step not to make any mistakes, while backmarkers will cheat every time with no consequence.
@@McPlayer8t Your logic is that red bull is cheating. The only way you can get a faster time is by making the wheel gun spin faster. That can almost surely rip one of their guys's hands off. I think its the FIA diving into something that doesn't exist. If teams can't keep up, then we release a technical directive forcing the faster teams to slow down.
@@McPlayer8t you're not making sense. How is having a quick reaction time cheating? A lot of people do have sub .2 second reaction times. Redbl is also insanely choreographed to make sure everything goes smoothly. Other teams can't keep up, so the FIA is making everyone that's ready faster than .2 seconds slow down. It's pretty stupid to ruin someone's reaction time so others can keep up. I understand limiting cars, but not humans
This is a disgrace to any kind of sport as a whole. The point of F1 pitstop is to stop and go as quickly as possible. I fully understand when they remove refueling but this? It would be like FIFA implementing a rule where the strikers should not kick the ball to the goal more than 80 km/h in the name of keeper safety, that would be absurd!
We just dont know if the regulation was put in place for the article 12.8.4 to be policed or if it was done for safety. If its the first, then this might actually seem pretty reasonable. But I doubt it is, which is why most people have a problem with this new rule.
Or like that strikers have to make eye contact with the keepers first. They have to wait 0.something seconds so that every keeper has a change to react
@@aadhilsanu5509 go read the FIA report and you will see. Also the driver's safety Association/the driver's them self's all but redbull driver's did their own report to the FIA.
Would be interesting to know what FIA report we are referring to here. As this ‘Orange Hooligan’ (thank you for being so hostile and judgemental, great stuff, I’m sure you are a lovely person to have around yourself ;) ) was under the impression that the FIA doesn’t publish their technical directives in detail (unlike their rulings on offences during race weekends etc)
I'm pretty in line with what Christian is saying tbh, yes his team has the most to lose, but technically every team is going to lose out here so i'm surprised more haven't spoken out (they may have and i haven't seen). Poor decision from the FIA imo, and i think the reaction will be pretty negative from the viewing public. I understand the safety concerns, but i don't think this is the answer.
The idea is that if Redbull is already so fast and their reaction time is so fast, then this rule will slow them down because they'll have to wait after their reaction time. Other teams like Haas that are already slow in the pits won't be affected because their reaction time is already longer than the FIA imposed wait time. Thats the idea on why it'll affect faster teams like Redbull rather than other teams like Mercedes
Safer ….. it was a Mercedes sliding accros the pitlane!! And what happened? Was there a safety incident with a pitstop this year?? Except bottas slider ofcourse. So it sounds like FIA wants Mercedes to have an eighth championship
So how many times has RedBull and Williams fucked up 2s or sub 2s pit stops? Yeah pretty sure it's never. How about those more than 3 seconds pit stops from haas that resulted in tyres flying off? Oh yeah quite a few. Bullshit rule, Mercedes must've paid a lot of money to the FIA
Yeah, it doesn't solve the issue. If they think pitstops are to fast for people to check their work, they should just set a minimum pitstop time of 5 seconds or whatever or use electronics to quickly determine if everything is OK to go. You're not making the pitstop safer by introducing a 0.35s margin. So the rule misses the goal they were aiming for anyway.
@@CrazyHorse151 The problem is had they done any longer, you can kiss goodbye to ANY team doing more than a one stopper (outside of safety cars) because the amount of time lost in the pits would make it virtually impossible to make up the time. This is the FIA pushing as much as they can and hoping the resultant backlash isn't that bad.
Pretty sure crybaby Lewis and party paid shit ton to get this done. Merc, Aston and McLaren were the ones to complain about RB pit stops being too fast. Merc trying their best to slow down RB using money and politics, that's what is happening.
@@MrSniperfox29 so back to the 60's mentality of "only pit when it is needed". That'll work well seeing how good Pirelli's tyres have been holding up the past 2 seasons
@@markschroder4523 That's why we've had a good few terrible races. Remember Belgium in 2019? The top 3 pitted early and then tried to do the rest of the race on hards, all three ran out of tyres with five laps to go but because they were all afraid that they wouldn't be able to overtake Riccardo in 4th (who was on a different strategy and had much fresher tyres) none of them did and the race basically ended with them going in slow motion. Anything that makes the teams even more resistant to pitting is a bad idea and should not be implemented.
Nah fcuk that you haven't heard the shopping trolley innovation, these guys are great at making things faster. Can you remember the grooved tyres that made the cars so much safer. So much better to have less rubber contact the road.
Well the growing fashion for last 50 years in all automotive sports has been that due to advancing technology and competition leads to ballooning performance which leads to fatal levels of speed,not only in the straight lines but also in the corners,even though the drivers are not only trained to drive their cars but psychically and mentally trained to withstand at times stunt plane levels of strain human body can do only so much,and when there is a relapse in concentration it isn´t going to be pretty. 2nd point of reasoning when it comes to regulation changes is the competition angle,trying to keep the level playing field which is kinda arbitrary now days as the newcomers and diy level teams can´t even compete with the multinational giants. Back in the 1960s and 70s there were inter-series races where cars from Can-am and Group C were raced together which in terms of performance and regulation were somewhat similar(both classes were the predecessor to the current LMP series). Current level of F1 is like seeing F1 and F2 cars are racing on the same championship.
Imagine practicing and practicing something in life til you become one of the best on doing that job and then someone says your doing it way to good so we are gonna need you to stop, basically what the FiA is saying
"fOr SaFeTy ReAsOnS" How many times in last let's say 5 years RB released their car without fully attached wheel? Maybe I am wrong but I don't remember that happened... But I remember many times when RB's pit was faster than Mercs's one... Just sayin'... (sorry if my english is potato, not native speaker)
I believe the last time a Red Bull lost a wheel following a pit stop was Mark Webber in 2013. Pretty good safety record for a team that routinely performs the fastest stops.
Absolutely true! Also, your English is better than most Americans I see in the RU-vid comments who don't know the difference between there/their and your/you're
I'm not a Mercedes fan and I agree. But I'm not a redbull fan and I don't complain just because I want to see a fight at the front or new winning team.
Next rule: you can't have animals painted on a car livery, it's disrespectful towards animals and puts the whole sport under a bad light. The rule will be obviously retroactive.
I love how it wasnt even a talking point in 2014-2020 (when Mercedes was dominant) but now when redbull is leading now they are chancing the rules why??
@@Rahul-kz5fi I am not so sure, yes they benefit but so does Ferrari (of which I am a fan), to me it seems like the new pitstop "guidelines" will make pitstops more dangerous until everyone is 100% adjusted to them, which will take a few races
If the argument was safety, they could just limiting the number of mechanics that servicing the car (That's what NASCAR, WEC, IndyCar, FE, SF, and other series doing). Like Matt said Policing their timing to 0.2 seconds would've been imposible to imposed or it's just going to be a half assed rule
pretty sure the only team that is gonna take penalties for that is red bull because mercedes is gonna come crying to the fia everytime Red Bull is 0.01 second under the allowed time
It all has to do with FIA’s timing and decisionmaking …..when Mercedes has some innovations, they will be restricted the following year like DAS and the partymode. When Red Bull has an innovation it will restricted a couple of races later like the rearwing. It is blatent that FIA has different rules for Ferrari (fuelgate) and Mercedes compared to all other teams
Just like the mid season quali mode ban last year. Or how the regs this this year have obviously favoured high rake cars. Let's not even talk about das
Funny how the team that is most affected by this “safety” measure, is the team that never seems to have any mishaps. The FIA are not making it safer. They are bowing to pressure from Mercedes.
When i saw the title, i knew the answer: Mercedes’s got too much influence in the sport and they think they lose time there on red bull so they compensate it like this. Would anyone cry if verstappen gets DWC?
I just find it weird it is for so called safety reasons, yet the quick pit stops weren't the issues when it came to unsafe releases. Name me the team that can manage sub 2 second pit stops and made unsafe releases in the last 4 years?
*before anyone tried to debate this in regards to reb bull complaining in the past* : *the mercedes DAS situation* : back then horner didn't even want to ban them, he wanted to fully know if it's legal to know if it would be viable to start production on a similar device for 2021 for themselvs. *also DAS was allowed for the whole season before taken off* also, about other complaints and why pit stops have zero corelation to past complaining: usually teams thread the lines of loopholes in regulations to snip as much as possible for their cars. understandable, happens a lot. complaints of such things i don't mind. *another example* , tyre pressures and flexy wings you could argue to some extent that they go into the loopholes of rules and threading the lines of legal and not. however: sub 2 seconds pit stops have NEVER been a loophope in regulations, or being sneaky or munching at rules to have an advantage. williams do sub 2 seconds pit stops as well. and the safety issues are bullcrap here, as in 7 years, absolutly no incident coming from red bull or williams aka the teams with sub 2 secs pitstops, have occured, had no issues putting the tyres properly on their cars due to fast pit stops. its literally to stop red bull from pulling the rugs from under mercedes. also if some think it can be argued that the 2021 and 2022 regulations are also there to stop mercedes, those new changes advantage everyone, you can't say it only advantages red bull. the pit stops? is a direct hit at only red bull.
just like party mode ban...its a battle off track. it affected all the teams, but some more than others. same shit is happening here. and 2021 regs (not 2022) def did advantage the higher rake cars tf???
@@matevzrantcater the 2021 regulations are some bits that were supposed to go alongside the full 2022 package but due to covid a lot got pushed, like the new car design. the rules you say affect higher rake cars would have come anyways with the new car designs but covid happened. 2022 car designs will still favour lower rake specs so. your point? but the pit stops only affect red bull. williams are still last. only red bull *besides williams* pull pit stops under 2 seconds. and party mode ban can be argued that it loopholes rules. did you read what i wrote? why do you think the magic button isnt being contested? red bull don't complain ab stuff that can be argued that they threat the lines of legal/illegal. also at least red bull are honest ab why the do things. mercedes preach about "we do the talking on the track/we love competition/we dont care what other teams do *this is regard to the pink mercedes* ". and another thing is the reasoning behind it they gave that its a "safety issue" like at least be honest mate. also as the comment above said, nobody knew the new regulations will only hit high rake specs.
The facts for anyone wondering: So far as we know McLaren and Aston were the only ones that have made comment in favour of it for safety grounds. Mercedes have done and said nothing that I can recall. I find Aston being for it strange because their pit record is rather strong. McLaren however, I can understand a bit more.
Does F1 really need the FIA? They keep making rules when they can't enforce the ones they already have properly. "But it's for safety". Well then why it's it so hard for them to deploy safety cars? Why don't they just penalize teams for errors in the pit lane? This rule feels like it's unnecessary and if it begins to hurt the sport then Liberty Media and the teams may start to wonder if they really need the FIA...
Already a set rules to penalize pit stop errors. Like unsafe release, like wheel nuts not tightened, all have penalties already. So the safety claim is just excuse.
When's the last time you've seen Red Bull have a problem with their stops? Never. Slowing everyone down won't improve anything, the slow stopping teams just need to get better.
Because FIA are spineless and inconsistent. I don't see any reason. Pit stops were very safe, especially with RB and Williams who had the fastest stops. Make it a spec series at this point. Slowed down stops, pretty much every innovation getting banned, and now you can't even celebrate
@@nandusai and they are the teams who are bad at stops. The faster teams are more reliable as well. So, I still don't get the point of slowing them down.
OH when the haas lost both their tires back then…no rule change. But all of the sudden, 2021 they’re slowing it down just bc RBR is too fast w/ zero incident 🤔
@@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag also mclaren and aston literally have mercedes parts. like the teams other than merc that complained are suplied with mercedes parts.
@@manrajbadyal8667 who supply’s these teams engines Merc were just sly and tried to hide that they had an issue cause they know how bad it will look if they are the ones who complained By using constructors They look like they had no involvement when in actual fact they had major involvements Also how does people doing sub 2 second pit stops affect aston and mclaren If you look at the times for the midfield teams they average around 2.2 so it literally doesn’t affect them The politics in f1 are very much at play here
@@liynne if that was the reason why didn't they complain about DAS when someone else was supplying engines to them? Just because a team has been dominant doesn't mean they pitched it to target non dominant team.
Toto and Lewis. We love the competition and we need others to do a better job so we can have a real championship fight. Redbull step up to the challenge in 2021. Toto and Lewis. Redbull are so fast on the straights. Their wings keep flexing. (Code for Redbull are cheating) (no one can beat us the FIA have guaranteed us the winning car every year so how is this possible?!) Redbull finally giving Mercedes a real challenge, the challenge the entire F1 world has been waiting for and they crying at every race. This is the second thing the FIA have changed they does impact Redbull. The flexibility in wings to slow then down on the straights. Didn’t work too well. The strategies Redbull could use with Faster pit stops. Now changed to slow the stops down. (We’ll see how this change pans out when it takes effect.) Can we just accept that Redbull have actually built a really great car this season.
@@prafulgupta3256 it was never actually legal. It went against the spirit of the rules and was only allowed because Mercedes were arguing semantics and claimed they would have to completely redesign their car. It’s the same with the flexi wings. It’s impossible to make it completely rigid so technically every wing violates the rule as written. The rule needs to be rewritten yet they introduce new tests because Merc had a winge.
To actually make the pitstops safer I think you need to increase the time to 4s or so... If you're so good as a team to get below 2s pitstop you're not likely to make any mistake. On the other hand if you make a mistake it will add some delay putting you above 2s and then the rule doesn't give a benefit.
@@phenomenon5349 Well... theoretically yes, but actually no. If two cars (RB & Merc) pit at the exact same time then sure, all’s good. But if you think of how pitstops can be used strategically, it potentially wrecks their effectiveness. Just look at france max v ham this season. Merc came in to pit, but verstappen pushed hard enough to close the gap and come out ahead. Now lets say that merc pitstop was 0.2 sec shorter and hamilton managed to get out ahead of max. Race changing event. I can easily imagine situations where 0.2sec absolutely screws strategy and results.
Tbh I don't think I've ever seen a misplaced wheel in Nascar. Has probably happened. Nascar pitstops are only chaotic because it's 5 or 6 dudes instead of 20. So F1 is prolly like 10 times safer and 10 times faster
@@donniedial3014 Yeah, but it's also not the wheels that are the problems in NASCAR. I mean, I don't know much about the sport, but if there is a video on RU-vid called "NASCAR pitlane close calls" that exists entirely of mechanics almost getting run over by both other competitor or their own drivers while running in and out of the "box" that can't be a *good* sign for safety...
Yeah, this is where I don't agree. Arguing against safety just because seems stupid to me. People are still dying in this sport and there is no excuse for not trying to prevent this. Obviously you're not serious but I'm wondering what the point is you're trying to make? That the FIA is making the sport to safe? We already have lower weight limits for this purpose. I don't even think putting a lower time limit on a pitstop would be an issue. If they'd do it, I think they should either wait for a championship to end or put the limit low enough to not punish teams, i.e. something like 1.8 seconds. Alternatively, if safety in the pits is their concern, maybe they should embrace automation because at those short times, an electronic signal might do a better job in confirming that a wheel is probably seated than the human eye... I think we all hate this move because it is arbitrary, not enforceable and comes at a questionable time in regards to RB's current points standing. Making the sport safer should be the issue here. There is no heroism in putting your life at risk for peoples entertainment and sponsor contracts...
@@CrazyHorse151 But it’s not making f1 safer. All the pit stop problems happen with the teams with the slower pit stops. Red Bull hardly make any mistakes. It’s a move that doesn’t make sense and makes pit stops look less impressive.
I still remember the first time I saw a sub 2s pit stop or even the gif of the perfect pit stop of a Ferrari. It still amazes me how fast they can be and how much coordination all involved have. Yes, 0.2s is nothing to our eyes but seeing the chronometer not reaching even faster times will be a bit disappointing.
Teams that complained openly, Aston Martin and McLaren both have Mercedes engines. Why is this rule implemented in the middle of a season if there were no major incidents with teams that had these very fast stops? There would be no immediate rush for this and could be a new rule for the next season so teams can adjust to it normally in between seasons. This is politics.
@Richard The Verstappen Bottas one? That was ruled a unsafe release by RedBull and they got a penalty. Slower pitstops will not hold of unsafe releases. Its a different matter
Because Mercedes probably screwed up their wheel nut or air gun design as seen in Monaco and are now complaining to the FIA about "safety" during pit stops, and demand that an artificial delay be introduced to the timings which could invariably decide the outcome of races.
No, I think its because of the Bottas incident during practice when he spun the car in the pit lane which is a pretty stupid reason because they wanted to see if they can get a better time if they launched in 2nd
Personally, I think the easiest and most simplest to slow down pitstops is to lower the number working on the car. The Super Formula Pitstop has always been fun to see as there is a robotic front jack and the front mechanic leaps over the front to get the next wheel on. If we can't have speed, let's have entertainment instead.
How often has red bull pitted in less than 2 seconds since 2015? Plenty of times how often has Mercedes pitted in less than 2 secondss since 2015? Not a single time That's the reason why the FIA slowing down Pit Stops.
If its sarcasm, then okay but if you're serious then i have to tell you that red bull has moaned more than any single team about mercedes domination and in this case they've not even said a single thing, also why would they do that? To win championship? Well according to the new rules the winning gets the least wind tunnel and development time so if merc wants to win 2022 then why would they do it in 2021 because we know that in 2022 the grid's gonna mix up So plz keep your rate A1 ocean going peasantry conspiracy theory with you
If want to improve safety this can be option for all 1. Limit fastest car 200 2. In pitstop 5s 3. When in pit area the speed just 15 4. Improvement the safety jacket and glove 5. Radio must on each team
So my issue with pit stops is the automation that they have. When Kimi Raikkonen broke a pit crew members legs due to being released too soon they should be on the wheel gunners shoulders, but the fact he was released says they the wheel gunner likely didn't have a choice and it was done automatically by a sensor. If he had pressed a button too early then it would be his fault. You also have all these unsafe pit releases, which shows that people aren't stopping the car from going when they're supposed to. So i'm for a change in "Slowing down" Pit stops. and having some things in place to force the people to slow them down. But a rule such as "The Jacks cant go down without all 4 tires being fitted" is kinda stupid, adds more complication to the pit stop. The Jackman now have to worry about all 4 tires and watch them while also minding their own job and doing it. The button that the tire gunners should have would stop the car from going unless all have been pressed so why should it matter if the Jackman lowers the car, the car shouldn't go without a green light. So while i'm all for Slowing them down for safety why not just force certain standards for a pit stop such as NO Automated sensors triggering the light, everyone must use a button, there must be at least 2 people watching the pit stop ready to stop the car from going if there's an issue. Things like that. not adding work for specific people but rather changing the process slightly, Yeah the gunners should press a button now, but that would be instinct to them after some pit stop practice.
Short answer: because Mercedes wants to slow down Red Bull Long answer: Michael Masi is part of the Great Mercedes Master 🅱️lan and will slow down Red Bull at any cost
Everyone saying Ferrari has been the master of 🅱️lan.... 😅😅 But they are forgoten that *The Great Mercedez Master🅱️lan™* will make everything they planning worked.... 🤣🤣🤣
Because the FIA bends over backwards for whoever's checkbooks are in their pockets. All in the name of safety (wink wink plus that sweet mercedes/mclaren money wink)
@@matevzrantcater You can also add the aero changes this year slicing off a sizable chunk of the floor and affecting the low rake cars more, wink, wink 😜
@@eudofia The aero changes were thought to benefit low-rake cars, that is why Mercedes and Racing Point (now Aston Martin) did not complain about it at the time but it went backwards wink wink.
I am all for safety and keeping people safe, but If you make the sport too safe it just gets boring. The thrill of two seconds pit stops and the need for precision is just one of the parts that make F1 great. For example, in Australia with Grosjean's wheel not being attached. It is moments like these that make races interesting and fun for fans to watch. They are dramatic moments that can change the whole race by possibly bringing out the safety car. If you make it too safe then almost everything will have no problems or mistakes and can contribute to a boring race. Even though this is just a small adjustment to pit stops, if the FIA continues on this path of adding bad race tracks with no overtaking, horrible decision making on track limits and penalties, slower pit stops, and more, then they are eventually just going to run the sport into the ground.
In nascar we have a rule where if a wheel isn’t on correctly then the tire changer is suspended for four races. We could do something like that in F1 instead of this
That only works because the roster of a NASCAR team isn't very deep and can be controlled by the org. In F1 the teams would just bring 10 people who *could* do it every race and shrug at the one dude who has to sit out a few races.
I am surprised that lugnut problems are not more common in NASCAR because the tire changer gets more chances to screw up in every pit stop, and more pit stops per race than F1.
@@williama.walker2287 yeah they’re surprisingly rare. Its more common for a car to drag a gas can into the pit lane than it is for a tire changer to screw up
We've seen so many harmless mistakes in the pits, why change that now? Oh right because Mercedes complained about it since they are losing the championship
They literally just pulled this TD out of their asses. The week after this "safety" rule change, Bottas almost plows into an entire pit crew doing a burnout after his pit. There won't be any rule changes after that, but when Red Bull is winning the championship, rules must be made in the name of "safety" that mainly hurt them.
Also the reaction to flex wings back v flex wings front, DAS oh and the very probable chance of ferrari cheating 2019, RBR isn't a car manufacturer and should not win in the FIA's eyes. That is why ferrari and Mercedes get some help from the FIA. Or at least that is what I think is logical.
I agree with both sides. I agree in the interest of safety, making sure the wheels are attached properly is a must. However I disagree that imposing some kind of nano-second of a pause is going to make much difference. Instead of having the mechanics staring at a wheel for slightest hint of a second, where all they will likely be thinking is, "can I put my hand up yet?". They should be looking into how they can improve the system. Maybe slowing down the wheel-guns, so the mechanics can actually get a feel for it tightening up, maybe improving the sensors and linking it to some kind of display map that glows green for each wheel, once attached properly for the front Jackman to observe. I'm not sure how, as that isn't my area of expertise but I'm sure there would be or can be a way to improve upon the system, that just asking, "do you mind if you can go abit slow?" In regards to the teams being effected, in theory, it shouldn't make a difference, they are all being asked to slow down by the this allotted time. So for a simplified example, if Red Bull are taking 2 seconds to pit but now have to pause for second and so now they will take 3 seconds due to this new rule. Whereas, Mercedes where taking 3 seconds but now they also have to pause for a second, it would take them 4 seconds. So Red Bull would still be faster. Or am I missing something?
It seems like its a 2 second minimum time. As in, your pit shouldn't be under 2 seconds. So Mercedes is unaffected, because they don't ever do pits under 2 seconds. Seems very arbitrary, and arguably, very convenient.
Because FIA would end up having indigestion if anyone other than mercedes has a advantage. At this point its not F1, its "Let's try to beat Merc series"
"The FIA is stepping in for safety reasons..." Aka: Mercedes complained about Red Bull's pit stop speed because they can't get a sub two second pit stop themselves.
When I think of pit lane incidents, the last thing on my mind is Red Bull, they’re clearly the most trained. No I picture lance stroll rolling through, knocking the jack guy to tumble backwards and Lance says nonchalantly, “sorry, brakes were cold” 😒 I mean, I would’ve been pretty concerned for the guy
I like how Pirelli have two tyres fail in one race at the same part of the track and the fia don’t care but when someone goes 2 tenths faster in a pit stop they’re like:NO
Well technically, the Ferrari engine was proved to be illegal in 2019 so..... And also you do realize that it was Aston Martin and McLaren who reported this to FIA, not Mercedes....
I think that pitstops also play a huge role in the strategies of each team(udercuts, etc) . In making them longer the FIA could be pushing to add a little more cards in the hand of the teams to play.
We are talking about safety measures which in the core of it are great. But if something goes wrong during a pitstop (Haas 2018/ Mick Schumacher pre-season) is a rare occasion and drivers directly feel if something is wrong, and put their car next to the track, the problem is also that you can't count for 0.2 seconds. THIS IS NOT THE OPTION.
