Why BattleBorn Failed 

I'm sorry, Battleborn. You didn't deserve this. Your creators did, however.

That Overwatch hentai killed battleborn

Everything you said about battleborn reminded me about another hero shooter called Lawbreakers

"everything blizzard creates is amazing" That comment aged well.

Honestly, I think Battleborn was a very fun experience. I purchased both Overwatch and Battleborn around the same time, but I got way more enjoyment out of Battleborn. It wasn't hard for me to gather what the game was at all during the marketing phase, and the game play and characters were amazing to me. Word of mouth is what really killed it I think. All it takes is one person to talk down on something and then everyone else follows. I've asked people what they think about Battleborn and it's always "That game was HORRIBLE! It's a terrible game!!" However, they never played it. Never. This is what kills games. Personally, I feel Battleborn is better and more enjoyable than Overwatch. I hate that this happened to such a fun game.

Technically, it wasn't that it happen that Battleborn launch when blizzard did his play test, they did the play test because battleborn launch. You can see a lot of times when battle born did something trying to grasp some player base, blizzard did a free weekend or double XP. Just so it could die even harder

Forgot to mention Battleborn's TERRIBLE decision to lock away heroes behind progression. Overwatch players can hop in and immediately pick any character they choose, Battleborn players only had a small selection and had to level up to unlock more. Bad design.

I loved Battleborn and it makes me so sad that it failed

Wait? What's battleborn? Is it some kind of JoJo?

"These trailers, just like everything else Blizzard makes, were outstanding." November 2018 called, it says thanks for jinxing it.

Battleborn and Gigantic didn't deserve such a terrible fate! 😢

Honestly though, I think Overwatch is a hellaton more boring than Battleborn. Sadly, one person can't change that...oh well. Side note, Overwatch is meh right now.

everyone accused battleborn of copying overwatch despite the MAJOR differences.

But I like this game...

I feel its imperative that I point that while the game is dead beyond the shadow of a doubt on PC, ps4 still has an extremely loyal (albeit comparably small) playerbase, and public matches are still findable within a minute or two. The game still has huge issues, but I love it and still play from time to time.

I swear i played Paladins, Tf2 and Overwatch a lot the Last years and i didn't hear about Battleborn until 2017, lol. Tried to play it but i couldn't.

I love Overwatch, but damn dude, I've never felt sorry for Battleborn and it's producers until now. Just... Damn

Well i still like battleborn more, overwatch just got boring fast to me

Truly one of the greatest shames of the mid-2010's. So much potential, such creative, fun characters, it had so much. And yet... it faded away into obscurity for what would seem like forever.

It's because the Scott the Woz Christmas Special for this year came out a day late

2020 - No Man's Sky is actually good now.

Battle born failed harder than my gpa did in final quarter

"Triple AAA games very rarely fail* cough, Anthem cough, yeah I know that came out after this video, just funny in retrospect.

"One of the biggest Triple-A failures in gaming history" *Dawn of War 3 wants to know your location*

I honestly believe the overwatch community single handedly killed this game, not the game, the community

After seeing what overwatch has become i truly wish this game was still around

I love battleborn characters and gameplay. Too bad overwatch came at the same time. Overwatch is so overrated. Battleborn has wayyy more content

Let's compete with Blizzard. What could possibly go wrong?

Battleborn is a dope game, honestly. It's really fun and feels more fleshed out than Overwatch. Even though I'm a competitive Overwatch player and love the game, I'm really sad this game died and didn't get the attention it deserved. The stars just didn't align and everything that could've gone wrong did go wrong.

Like myself, I'm sure a lot of other Battleborn fans would've had this vid suggested to them without ever seeing your channel and we've seen plenty of these videos where people half arse their research and put out the same misinformation we've seen over and over. I wanted to give you this feedback because when doing vids about niche games like this, you can gain a lot of respect from the game's real fans. If you were better informed you could've made this video stand out among all of the other half arsed "Why Battleborn failed" and I wouldn't have hesitated to subscribe. Although I think it's great that Battleborn is still being talked about, it's very clear you didn't play Battleborn much or at all and just spent a bit of time researching it. There is a lot you are totally wrong about here and some huge things that just weren't mentioned. 1. Most of the issues were caused by 2K and at least some of the devs in gearbox really weren't happy with how it was all handled. The devs wanted a free to play, and they wanted a later release date. The game was clearly unfinished and it really felt complete after the Winter update, which changed so many things some people consider it as the "real" release. 2K were also the reason F2P wasn't handled well, and you DIDN'T EVEN MENTION the free to play business. 2. "It lost over 90% of its original playerbase in the first 6 or 7 months." This only applies to PC. PS4 and xBox retained an active playerbase for at least a year and it still isn't dead there. Most people stopped playing PC first because it was terribly optimised, barely ran for many people. After that people stopped being able to find matched because it was heavily region locked to your steam download region so all of the smaller regions died from people changing their DL region to US or France or some shit. THAT is what cause most PC players to stop playing, although a very surprising amount switched to console. Maybe Overwatch was the primary cause for console doing bad, but it was definitely secondary for PC. 3. "Overwatch was simply a better game." Maybe this just pisses me off because it was the mantra for people who have never played Battleborn, but almost everyone I know who has played both points to the level of depth and content of Battleborn vs the great gameplay and polish of Overwatch, or something along those lines. "Battleborn simply wasn't as fun to play" makes much more sense. 4. "Lack of content" Did you run out of time to research when you got to this bit? Ask most Battleborn fans why they preferred it to Overwatch and they would say "It has more content". One of the only things you can say for certain Battleborn had over Overwatch is that there was more content, although the quality of it is subjective. You say there wasn't enough content to keep people playing but the 5 DLC STORIES they released kept the PvE community pretty solid through a lot of 2017 and the PvP community seemed to stay pretty engaged with the 5 NEW CHARACTERS that were released every couple months, even with the tiny leftover PC community that took 8 MONTHS to drop from 150 to 92 players after the numbers stabilised. It properly died off after F2P failed. 5. "6 maps at launch" All you said on the topic of content was that the game launched with 6 "fairly average" maps. Yes it had 6 PvP maps, fair enough that you don't mention the 8 story mode maps and Prologue map that were in the base game... But then you show an incomplete list of base game and DLC PvE maps, and flash up on screen that there are still only 8 maps today? WHAT? DID YOU DO ANY RESEARCH!? Was the wiki your ONLY REFERENCE? It took me 20 seconds to go into the game's private modes and check the maps and there are now 12 PvP maps, plus a couple event maps. So since launch they more than doubled the amount of PvP maps, not to mention they gave 5 DLC story maps. Cheers for reading.

*Waits for unturned gameplay* 😂

You shouldve mentioned the game's Pros...the distinctive and awesome classic Gearbox humor, and the really enjoyable story missions (something overwatch was missing and still is)

Battleborn was such a good game!!!

Battleborn should be free at this point

Unrelated but No man's sky was disappointing at launch, but the devs put in the work and the game isn't dead any more the devs put in the work and its a presentable game now

3:18 "These trailers just like everything else (Activision) creates are absolutely outstanding" >Few months later, WoW BFA comes out and Diablo Immortal is announced, Along with all the best talent in the company being pushed to mobile shit. And the topmost kek of them all ensued.

where are the gmod videoooooooooooooooooooooooos

Yeah, no. No, no and another no. Bully for you. Ya' lost a good chunk of topical credibility when your first comparison consisted of "Meanwhile, Blizzard was off being perfect like always.", immediately dismissing the failures of both then Blizzard All stars (Now Heroes of the Storm) and the colossal failure that was Diablo 3's launch or even the incredibly poorly received WoW Expansion "Warlords of Dreanor." Post that, calling the Battleborn trailers confusing on a standalone perspective while ignoring that the reason that they *were* confusing at all was due to Randy Pitchford's innane need to try and force Battleborn to compete directly with Overwatch despite the massive differences in each game, further removed validity from your video. Look. Battleborn failed for a number of reasons. Scarce marketing and an over reliance on word-of-mouth, an idiot of a CEO who couldn't keep his mouth shut, and the launch timing that had the game drop just weeks before Overwatch which had been hyped to all hell (Which, by the by, has also been struggling to maintain and generate interest, just to further drive home the "Not everything Blizzard does is the greatest thing ever." point.) But none of these reasons were "Battleborn was engineered from the start to fail." like your video suggests. Objectivity over opinions when trying to create discussions or make valid points.

lmao No man sky isn't even a triple A game. I feel like you lost some credibility there

they should of wen free to play right after they seen overwatch was over taking them

Battleborn is better than overwhatch

Overwatch now is boring same thing over and over the hero's that take so long to come out become boring within a week or so and everbody uses dive charecters now

Besides, no matter what you say you cant beat a price tag of 0 dollars

Overwatch was a mess at launch, it was only ever polished graphically.

First of all I love battleborn I like it more than OverWatch I'm not saying the OverWatch is a bad game I think it's overrated but I do play it got it as a Christmas present but my own opinion I feel like gearbox did a better job on the game have a story mode what's up to 4-player co-op I even two players split screen Co-op the characters were more interesting they actually have a backstory in the game you don't have to go online and look up Lords and other stupid shit and the game's not completely dead I plan on PS4 I can get online no problem

4 months later and No Mans Sky is back in business!

About no man's sky... Can you make a video on it I think it's really interesting what happened

I enjoy both, but I love the fact Battleborn had a story mode with interesting levels and bosses. Plus, both games had great lore, so Battleborn had that going for it too. Overwatch needs a second game for a story, while Battleborn did it fine.

Eww.. Paladins... gross haha

Bad marketing period battle born is way better too bad though to many people dint really even know about it

9:17 Those are all story maps. There are 12 multiplayer maps, but the lack of maps is made up for by all the builds and characters. Battleborn to this day still has more characters than Overwatch and each on can be modified to fill a different role on a team, as well as having plenty of room for individual theorycrafting with gear and helix levelling. Additionally, all 12 of said maps (29 if you count PvE maps) are well designed, visually appealing, and unique as long as you take more than 5 mins of gameplay to look at them. The wiki you are using has been abandoned, and is full of misinformation and incomplete pages. A more accurate reasource is Lowlidev for anyone who wants to learn something about the game.

I have Battleborn on my ps4 and i like so much this game. And i like the Story mode to. When my dad bought it was so werd beacuse i never heard about it but now i love this game and i think îs coolll

i tried to like this game but the 30 min wait times killed it for me.

2 years later and Bo Man Sky is still thriving and alive selling new copies and getting a ps5 upgrade free of charge and battleborne got its servers shutdown and died a misserable death, lol. Funny how this video assertion of NMS aged so poorly, lmao

The funny thing is, give it another few months and this channel is gonna have a video titled "What killed Overwatch?" lol. Still laugh at the people who thought it would have the longevity of TF2.

I was so hyped for battleborn when it was announced, I bought it a month after release, got gold on all the parts in the campaign, and unlocked all the non dlc characters all within the month. I was noticing the queue times for multiplayer get longer literally by the day and it crushed me

To me, its still a more fun game than overwatch, at least from a gameplay perspective.

I guess the meme of Barely Born and Already Dead is perfect for this game.

You have interesting definitions of "failure." Yes, Hello Games probably made a profit off of No Man's Sky, but they also dug a huge hole they will have to climb out of whenever they want to release a new game.

0:25 no man sky dead?, well that aged well

I played the Open Beta's the whole week and I enjoyed it much more than Overwatch.

I remember watching reviews for both Battleborn and Overwatch when they both just came out. I went to gamestop, rewatched the IGN reviews (idk why i watch them lol) and held BOTH in my hands and kept looking over them back to front wondering which one to get. I went home with Overwatch. And its one of my most beloved games ever.

I would have to disagree with the point that No Man's Sky is dead. While I myself haven't even played the game, I have somewhat kept an eye on it. Since launch, they've released free updates that greatly improve the gameplay. They've added base building, land vehicles etc. With its upcoming release on Xbox, a major update will come to the game which will add multiplayer.

You can pick up this game for $2 if you look hard enough if anyone is interested.

*_FEMINISM IS AWESOME_*

Triple A games: Play it safe - Find it hard to fuck things up (consistently fuck things up) Crowd Sourced Games: Take risks - Find it hard to not fuck things up (consistently fuck things up) Man being a fan is great...

This is a reupload, I remember seeing this video a while back.

I loved Battleborn. Got Master of Caldarius and around that time the que times went from instant to like 5 mins. You could tell it was dying.

I still love the aesthetic of this game even though it failed horribly

This reminds me of a game I used to love called paragon. I enjoy playing smite so paragon was a cool little spin off. I miss that game more than battleborne

I have battleborn, and I've always liked the game. Ofc OW is way more enjoyable, but I think you forgot, or didn't mention a important aspect. Battleborn is unstreamable. There's 2 much info and colors in the screen to viewers to understand, hell even the player most times is a bit lost. On the other hand, and this you've mentioned, when you die you have to slowly and clunkyly come back, creating an uninteresting moment during streams. OW, on the other hand, is more user friendly even suffering a bit from the same problem, but in a much lower degree, and with much straightforward action.

Not even No Mans Sky, community is alive again

This video just made me want to play Overwatch. And I’ve never played it before lol

The FPS/MOBA mix is actually quite fun when done right. I've never tried BattleBorn (didn't even know it existed before seeing this video), but one of most fun I've had with any shooters was with Super Monday Night Combat, which is instantly what comes to mind when reading about BattleBorn. Super MNC never really took off and the devs abandoned it (though they wouldn't admit it) pretty early on, but damn was it fun. Part of the issue with making a MOBA type game (doesn't matter if it's an FPS or any other style) is that if it doesn't launch with good numbers, it's pretty much doomed from the start because of matchmaking. Super MNC was great, but waiting 15 minutes for a single match was horrible.

Hmm what is this Overwatch game he mentions

Im seeing overwatch now and I’m disappointed battelborn is the greatest whit the crew 1 and battefield hardline overwatch gamer or they like the game or they ARE FUCKING POrN DVA AND TRACER fan but battelborn disserved better mutch like titanfall 2😢

I prefer BattleBorn more because it has a story. Overwatch was just people killing each other. No story. I like a action game with a story. I still have it...I missed playing it...

Battle born and Overwatch are the main Ames, and Paladins is a copy... I still like Paladins better :|

The last time I played PvP in Battleborn, i got put up against a team of 5 players, all 5 of them max level, and 3 of them using the same DLC character...

um yea i think you have your info wrong there are more than 8 maps the community is still active and i think you are way late on this "battleborn fail and it was bad" angle really so to not know what your talking about and see every angle and the facts not the opinions of those who were being briebed with free stuff to fallow overwatch over battleborn.

No mans sky is NOT DEAD 💀

"yes [no man's sky] is dead"... well that aged great! but yeah that launch was terrible and they got caught overpromising and even fabricating screenshots. Tbh i respect the hell out of hello games for giving us years of active development for no additional price. I know you could say its just fulfilling the promises of the game but at this point the features of the game are well beyond that original promise. Bases, vehicles, the nexus, 3rd person, co-op, all that is entirely based on community feedback

Overwatch never did and still doesn't deserve it's fame. I'm quite happy to see it's player count dropping drastically. I'm not saying Battleborn deserved the attention and **** sucking that Overwatch got, but it deserved a lot more then it got.

It's sad honestly because I love battleborn and I like it more than overwatch. I know that sounds weird but that game had cooler stuff to offer than overwatch and I was more bored in overwatch. For one, people who say this is similar to overwatch are same people that think anything is a ripoff because of mechanics that are similar to other games(plus we don't know if the developers wanted to copy stuff so it's all guessing) . These are the same people that say PlayStation all-stars battle royale is a ripoff even though killing the opponent in that game is completely different from smash bros. I don't consider anything to be a ripoff,I just thinks some games are amazing,good,ok,boring, or bad. What I loved about battleborn was how you can level up your character in battle and chose the upgrades you what for them while also trying to get level 5 to unlock your ultimate (which is not the same as overwatch). The gameplay was also 5vs5 and not 6vs6 and was about taking down two tanks on the enemy side and winning the game. You also had a bunch of minions and robots you can summon in the battlefield to help you in the fight (something also different from overwatch). If anything even the character design are also different than overwatch, the only thing that you can compare from battleborn to overwatch is the abilities each of the heroes have (which is usually how people say this is a ripoff, so I guess games can't take inspiration and ideas from other games I guess like battlefield and call of duty?). At the end of the day, the reason why battleborn failed wasn't because of the gameplay more or less the fans of overwatch and how people criticize this game as a copy and when the game came out the overwatch beta also came out at the time ruining the launch and any hype around the game, and because people didn't give this game a chance is was inevitable it would go free to play. I mean look at overwatch now, it used to have 54k on twitch,now it has 18k, not bad but a downgrade and know fans are complaining about the game and saying these past few seasons have been the worst seasons yet, and people saying the game is garbage and overrated now,now that's irony right there(and that's what fartnite,apex royale,and these other popular games are going to turn into). I just hope that we can appreciate games for what they are if there good or bad and not just call them ripoff based of mechanics similar to other games and I just hope one day after borderlands 3 gearbox comes back to this series and makes a battleborn 2 and maybe not just make it online but offline compatible as well.

Can you please go back to playing unturned

Battleborn? More like battledead amirite up top

You should do a video on how your channel failed...

You make a good point when you say that they're actually very different, but that the advertising dictated otherwise. I didn't understand that battleborn was a Moba until way after I knew about it. So I, like many, assumed that it was the same idea as Overwatch

I played it in the early days, it was a lot of fun tbh, I played the mushroom healing guy and my friend played this spinny sword guy, so I just supported him and he did most of the damage, we wrecked so hard in pvp, but in the end overwatch was better overall

In my opinion when overwatch did a free weekend battleborn shouldv gone in derect competion and made there own free weekend on the same date so players would try both games so atleast they would have a healthyer playerbase and the players that liked battleborn better than overwatch would of stuck around which ment they could keep updating

i wouldnt say it failed. it was a great game in all categories. the only market it "failed" in is marketing and as a game creator, I wouldnt say that is a failure. I say its the publics missed opportunity.

5:42 "If you want a new multiplayer game get: DOOM..." Another dead multiplayer. Funny how quickly that comment dated.

Here beacuse of Scott The Woz (It's a Bargain Bin Christmas ep. 150 - Scott The Woz)

It all comes to an end on December 2020 when they pull the plug on the Battleborn servers. Enjoy it while it lasts. 🥺

Before buying BB, I had my eyes on DOOM (as it released on my b-day), and the beta weekend came out for both games' multiplayer. I played the DOOM multiplayer and immediately hated it, and left a sour taste in my mouth, so I quickly downloaded BB's open beta and holy crap did I have a blast. League as a FPS? Yes *PLEASE!* I didn't care about that price point at that point, my only other games at the time was MCC and the very limited backwards compatible list. Then the media did the dirtiest thing imaginable, comparing the game to Overwatch. "Yeah it's fun and unique and the humor is amazing, but it's no Overwatch."...yeah, it never was supposed to BE overwatch! Came with even more content than OW at the same price on xbox!! But most media reviews just bashed the game for not being Overwatch. Not the only time Blizzard killed my favorite game, Hearthstone did the same shit to Mojang's Scrolls.

Two year later, today, Battleborn is still the most addictive and most amazing game in the world, it is the combination of RPG and MOBA. I still enjoy every moment of it even after two years of playing it.

This is the first game Gamestop gave me for free..Due of they had 30 copies that noone wanted to buy for 1 buck eack.

People can fucking still play it, whorver is watching this... ITS FREE

This game is so much better than its other comparable titles. This is really unfortunate.

Fuck me, I loved this game. It was everything I wanted Overwatch to be.