WHY BATWOMAN FLOPPED 

Why exactly did u make this video, to do what,,,,make us stop watching it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

"Batman abandoned Gotham, I'm better than him."........didn't last 1 year.

batwomen : "i'm not about to let a man to take credit for a women's work" yet here you are using his armor, money, gadgets, batcave and symbol.

"The characters are inconsistent." Welcome to the CW

Batwoman finale: red hood appears and says "you are a joke, not batman" and just kills kate, the series ends there

"You don't like Batwoman because you don't want to watch a show about a woman" *Laughs in Jessica Jones.*

Reasons why Batwoman sucked: 1. CW made it.

I never could get over how dumb the outfit looked. That red wig was awful.

Pretty much the whole dang show is just “Man Bad, Woman Good”

She's a military trained person... but batman is a trained assasin

Kate is a fascinating character who all about self improvement and inner demons...in the comics.

The Bat is supposed to be mysterious and horrifying. People would get caught in a cloud of smoke and be on the ground when it clears. He would stalk from the shadows and swoop down when he got the chance. Yknow *like a bat.* nobody is afraid of Batwoman.

I love how easy the “it will be when it fits a woman” line could’ve been fixed just by her saying “when it fits me”

It flopped cause the writers are bad, they disrespected Batman in almost every episode. The cast just want their money they don't really care about what's going on

The Batwoman costume looks like they stuck a wig on Batman Edit: holy shit she did

“Kevin will go to the grave as batman” still stings 😢

The suit was perfection... When it was made for Batman.

The problem with lesbian or gay characters, isn’t so much the idea of them. No it’s a perfectly fine idea if you ask me, but you have to do two very simple thing, and that is write them as human beings, and stop writing them as symbols, because they don’t lead to good characters, if you write them as human beings you create a bond with your audience. They can be so strong that you become a symbol.

"It will be, when it fits a woman" is one of the dumbest lines in history. It imply as long as it fits any woman, she will be a badass. The suit don't work like that

I still can't get over how batwoman threw a batarang wrong and caused an explosion, and the batarang was blamed instead of her. Really shows the priorities of the writers.

This whole show just feels like a fan fiction

"Either be Jason Todd or don't!" 😂 Best line!

“It will be perfect.... when it fits a woman” “Finally.... my bat nipples will have a purpose”

6:31 Who would've known that this became a reality so soon 😔 Rest in peace Kevin

"he will go to the grave as Batman" 🥲 we miss u Kevin

Here’s my issue with Batwoman: In the comics, the focus of Batwoman was her struggling with her inner demons, NOT the fact that she was LGBTQ. Which was also done tastefully in the comics, I might add. Because this is a CW show, Kate Kane’s lesbianism seemed to be more of a focus than actually driving a plot. This, plus a horribly inconsistent script led to an ultimately flat first season. This is unfortunate, as Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends, and Black Lightning all featured main characters who were LGTBQ. They had a framework to build off of. But when your lead character in their first season of SUPERHERO SHOW is more concerned about making you know that they’re LGTBQ and not so much about everything they’re supposed to do, it becomes a distraction, not a loveable element of the character. Example: Sara Lance/White Canary was gradually built up as a bisexual character. It blossomed as she became more prominent and developed naturally as her character DEVELOPED more, and once she was the main lead of Legends, you knew what to expect from her. Which made her interaction with Alex in the Crisis On Earth X crossover both hilarious and funny. And REAL! With Kate Kane in Batwoman, they beat you over the head over and over and over again that she’s lesbian, almost as if we’re stupid or not paying attention. That to me was a distraction more than anything. I almost didn’t care anymore. If people want to get mad at this, whatever. I’m just saying what no one has the guts to say. CW tried to push a show with not just female lead character, but a gay female lead character, and shove in our faces that she was gay. And it didn’t work. It was at the cost of character development and bland, inconsistent acting for a woman who, in real life, is actually a lesbian (yes, Ruby Rose is a lesbian). But it came so over the top in her acting that it seemed fake. All that, coupled with the fact that they effectively killed off Batman made this a dull show. Thank you for this video, and for having the guts to call it out.

Woa?! There are people that don’t wanna watch *Batman Beyond* Such foolish decision.

The quote about Kevin Conroy going to the grave as batman was so accurate

The series Gotham was my favorite Batman series cause it started as a young Bruce and it showed other characters growing as the villains and I think they should give nightwing his own series but call it bloodhaven!

1: the writers don’t understand the source material 2: most tv writers of late are incapable writing non-annoying female characters. 3. Whilst insulting your intelligence, the show runners refuse to take any constructive criticism.

8:10 not even kidding, the second you said "the show should've just started this with line", an ad played, with the first line of the ad saying "this is going to suck" never had i agreed more with an ad in my life

I've never heard someone reference Birds of Prey, that was my show. Dark Angel is another show I wish ppl remembered.

That’s a great question, where the hell is Alfred?

Ok, my issue is..... Ruby rose has no actual training. Other than being batmans/bruce waynes cousin. So does that make her a master detective? Bruce Wayne trained for years as a league of assassin and all of a sudden someone. Male or female with no training can just jump into his suit and be a full fledge bat person...???? How does that work??? How?

Batman: The Animated Series was amazing...

As someone who has never seen the show, that intro really made me REALLY not want to watch it.

Bruh when he said “start with this line” I got a Disney plus advert XD

Batman is getting represented in media really badly lately. But the Batman movie will hopefully fix that. Edit: They fixed it😁

The thing that sticks out to me is just how much of a Mary Sue she is. She seems like "Little Miss Perfect" straight out of the box. There is no real training or sense of progression, she just "is" Batwoman, and we're supposed to just accept that. That's not really a good way to start off a series. In Arrow season 1, they show (through numerous flashbacks) how Oliver changed from being a selfish playboy to a stone cold badass, and the struggles he endured to get to that point. In Supergirl season 1 they show her making mistakes, generally being a bit rubbish and getting called out for it (like when she tries to move an oil tanker that's on fire and accidently rips it apart, making the situation worse) In Flash season 1, same story. He's a bit crap and often overshoots his destination by many blocks, and needs his team to guide him and help him train to use his powers. (one of his mentors secretly has the same powers too so is able to tell Barry about things he can do that Barry himself didn't know) In Batwoman.......there's none of that. She can just 'do it'. She can fight really well (no explanation). She knows how to use all the gadgets (no explanation). There's no "Ooh, how does this thing work? Whoops...", or "I probably shouldn't jump off buildings until I learn how to glide with this cape". Nope, she's just a master of everything and fearless to boot! It's hard to get invested in a character who is that perfect (and so knowingly smug about it too)

‘He will go to the grave as Batman’ damn RIP

His deadpan delivery was also him showing he's in control, when he spoke we listened, for Batwoman's performance with what she says kept being flipped on us she never came across as in control so her deadpan delivery just fell flat and something you didn't need to listen too because it'll probably change the next episode

Let me nitpick here a second. Buffy had magical powers that allowed SMG to pack the punch of an SMG (waits for applause... crickets... moving on). If Batwoman is going to be a smaller woman, then the choreography for the fights needs to play up speed and dexterity over raw strength. She should fight by strike and move tactics, hitting weak spots, and being too fast to hit. Something that a military-trained female and a scrapper would have learned growing up. They could have made it a thing where she knows she can't meet strength for strength and some of her enemies could actively work to reduce her mobility to try to even the odds.

About DCAU Batman. For all of his stoicism and very calm line deliveries, he still has moments where he shows a confident, snarky personality. Case in point, “Mine are bigger than yours!”

My Idea for Batwoman If I were a director of the film, I want her to struggle especially physically and mentally and I want her to be broken down and at the end rises up and we can continue cheering for her as she succeeds. SIMILAR WITH DAREDEVIL SERIES ( I also want her to be abit bratty) similar with Batman.

I would like to mention that we believed Buffy could fight against people twice her size is because she had super strength, batwoman is a regular person in a bat suit

It would of been ok had they not kept repeating "im a Lesbian"

I have to disagree with the personality similarities with Kate and Bruce. Awhile Batman is stoic, Kate is....emotionless. Batman had his fair share of emotional depth, he has a heart, showing true compassion towards his enemies and others if they deserve it and he was very logical and analytical. He has a keen sense of justice and would never do anything Kate does in the show. Kate is arrogant to the point of narcissism. She's selfish, sociopathic, displays no remorse for her actions, (Like when she murders Batman and had no remorse at all, but when she murders Cartwright, she suddenly has trauma.) She only does things to validate herself, treats those around her like dirt, and never takes accountability for her actions. Kate never develops into a well-rounded character. Kate is a Mary Sue that the writers refused to flesh out and mature.

6:30 "He will go to the grave as Batman" RIP Kevin, we still miss you

I’d have loved to see Yvonne strahovski play Batwoman in live action. Loved her on Chuck and she had the voice spot on in the Batman bad blood film

The writers just need to hang out with the writers of the Harley Quinn cartoon series to understand how to do a female-led show correctly. Positive Girl power + many flawed decisions and mistakes + laughs + not all men are the bad guys + unexpected turns = damn decent show

The problem with the writers at the CW and the failure of this show stems from the fact that they keep trying to push a political agenda. If they want to get it right, then just follow the comics; put your ideological agendas aside, and just tell a good story... Not that hard to do...

i've watched a bunch of your vids and you havent covered legends of tommorow, I would love to see your take on them as well as the new 52 animated movies, justice league dark apocalypse war, all that good stuff, keep up the good work, I was iffy about batwomen too from her entitlement to the mantle, her costume was nice tho :3

6:17 Foreshadowing. RIP Kevin Conroy

Who cares if she's bisexual Just make a show that's good.

Buffy had super-human abilities, due to being a slayer. That's why people could buy into it.

if the live action TV and movies would just read the comics and just go with the cannon of characters the whole DC universe could be up to par with marvel, most of the DC live actions i see are just a string of 1 or 2 movies and that's it, nothing more, even the shows don't really correspond, sure you have the same characters but they always feel different and usually end up being re-built, personally I don't enjoy that, I would love to see live action movie or TV series where you have the whole bat-family being built up and played in Gotham, same goes with the rest of the DC universe, and once these characters are built up, you can make continuous series off of them based off the cannon and bam, you would have a whole universe of characters and stories you could build upon just like Marvel, idk why after all these years they keep failing at this, seems like their just repeating their mistakes hoping one day it'll work

"He will go to the graves as batman" R.I.P Kevin Conroy

I liked the DC animated version from Bad Blood better. She actually ended up working with the Bats and wasn't constantly reminding us of her sexual orientation. Yeah, there's one scene where it's pointed out, but it's not the main focus of the movie. Instead, the main focus is finding out who BW is. (Obviously it's Katie, one of Nightwing's friends). But the thing that makes BB better is Batman downright tells her just because she wears his symbol, it doesn't mean she's actually one of the Bats.

The “not gay enough” stuff and linking it to the scene where Carlton is told he’s not black enough... ok that was smooth.

"He will go to the grave as Batman"... ...this comment has aged like fine wine.

I was one of those anti-Batman Beyond fucks for literally 20 years before finally giving in and now I’m so furious with myself lol, Terry is the shit.

fun fact: when you google Batwoman, 3 women pop up. none of those 3 are Ruby Rose.

“When it fits a woman” *cringe*

“He will go to the grave as Batman” Rest in piece Kevin Conroy

I kept waiting for Batwoman to take out her comb,and sing,”🎶🎵Seventy Seven ,Sunset Strip!🎶🎵Snap🤌Snap🤌!

Ruby Rose's injury sounds like it could have gotten as bad as Christopher Reeve's horse-related accident injury. Nobody deserves that kind of life, paralyzed for years. I'm not a Batwoman fan, but out of pure decency... I'm happy the injury she sustained didn't go as far as it could have.

It would have been funny and kind of messed up if the first time she goes to fight crime she just gets shot in the face and then the credits roll. 😭😭😂

“Kevin will be playing Batman to the grave” Yeah, you’re right 😔

I really loved Ruby Rose in JOHN WICK! Hoping she returns in part IV!

“Either be Jason Todd or don’t” took me out 💀💀💀

Ripley, one of the most iconic female leads in entertainment, is a regular woman who evolves through adversity into becoming the biggest badass in the franchise, there is a clear progression to it and Ripley's place is firmly cemented as that badass for how she rose above her supposed superiors in a natural way. Sarah Connor, watch the growth through Terminator from terrified waitress to destroying a T-101 that makes her believable in Terminator 2 where she is crucial in destroying the T-1000, she is the woman you want on your side during the AI uprising. When you write a woman to grow into a badass, they are superior in every way to those written to be a badass from the start.

6:34 “he will go to the grave as batman” well your 100% life

Dude, Buffy is THE SLAYER. She's not an ordinary girl. She is as supernatural as the monsters she fights. On top of which, she has a mentor/trainer and she works very hard to get better and learn. She has gifts and inborn talent but she still struggles and does her level best to improve herself. Sarah Michelle Gellar is a really GOOD actress though which makes all the difference.

The reason Bruce's stoicism and at times snide demeanor works as Batman because he as Bruce is a character that has a sympathetic cause. We know what drives him. Bruce sacrifices his daily life and peace in order to help save innocent lives. He risks his life and body to save others and literally asks nothing in return. Bruce is snide to people who are either against him or aren't making sense/wasting time depending on the situation. But he has shown compassion at times even to people outside his circle of friends. Need I remind you the episode of JLA with Ace of Clubs??? Kate isn't even close to that person. Kate constantly needs to emotionally validate herself (like supergirl) and always puts innocent lives at risk. -> In the episode that introduced Hush, there are people that are trapped in the lift but instead of trying to get them out she rushes back to the batcave and PAINTS over it to make a point to distinguish herself from Batman. -> She lets the lesbian hacker chick go with mere community service for attempted murder of a train full of people (which on an average equal to 300-400 people) simply because she was gay. -> She complains about the GCPD being bigots and not shining the bat signal to call for her help (because of course they are fuck you CW) instead of going to help anyways ASAP (batman didn't NEED the bat signal, he would go on nightly patrol and crime fight every night, the signal was more for Commissioner Gordon whenever he wanted to talk to batman and to incite fear among the criminals). -> She would rather sleep with her ex than take the journal that Lucius Fox literally died to protect to safety ASAP. -> Do I even need to mention Alice??? The murderous psychopath that Kate keeps letting go simply because she is her long lost sister. The situation with Batman and Joker is far far different as killing someone is a much bigger moral conundrum than capturing a murderer (even though I disagree with Batman on that regard, he at least tries to minimize civilian casualties). Kate is needlessly antagonistic towards people who have either done nothing wrong (she literally infiltrated Wayne Manor and assaulted Luke and is almost always chiding him or downplaying him) or are trying to help her (remember the scene with the Atom where she rudely told him off even though he was wanting to actively help her?? the show plays it off as a joke and Kate then accepts the upgrade anyways and thus wasting more time). The show didn't intend for her to come off as this way but she always comes off as unbelievably smug and self righteous and even incredibly vain at times like when she came swooping for the crowd that was chanting for her in the bigoted GCPD episode, or when she grew upset at people shipping her (a lesbian)with a male cop and came out as lesbian batwoman despite the fact that it was just harmless shipping and actively narrowed down the potential suspects of her true identity and had the gall to pose for fully lit photo for a public image. THIS is why Kate's stoicism and snide attitude just does NOT work whereas Bruce's did.

I thought she was an incredibly believable threat in John Wick. She had excellent form when fighting and was a very convincing psychopath. This was just a crap role. She is a good actress and looks like a legitimate fighter. The show was garbage.

My problem with batwoman is that batgirl has such a big role in the comics but we barely see her. Batgirl gets cut off all the time. Her storyline its so much more interesting and that's why i think that if they would've gave us a batgirl series would've been 100x better

Batwoman is my favorite comic character (although Hellboy's a close second) and is such an interesting superhero who has a lot of depth, inner demons and struggles. She's so underrated and is one of the best queer reps in comics at the moment, and it's so sad that this show was and is most people's first exposure to her. It's so cringy and poorly written (Seriously, how did any of this make it past a rough draft) that I can't even blame people for thinking she sucks when this is what they have to work with. I'm so glad that the show got canceled, even though it should've been dropped after season 1.

5:56 Bruce has years of training in martial arts and is the world’s greatest detective along with being a good escape artist and yet she thinks she could be better god I hate the writing

So...I'm a lesbian and a liberal. You would think that this show entirely would be my cup of coffee. But I love Batman and one of the first ads I saw elevated batwoman at his expense. It's not necessary and it's cheap. You don't need to demonize one thing to make another thing worthy. This theme continued with the entire first ep. Also, there's a difference between actually caring about diversity i.e., actually trying to let the audience walk in someone else's shoes and making it a mainstay as opposed to "see, we added this uberwoke dialogue a few times, hurrah for us!"

6:30 oh that comment did not age well.... RIP Kevin Conroy The Dark Knight, But the light of gotham

Just want to say, it was definitely over year since the beginning of the season. In between episode 1 and episode 8, the last crossover which introduced Batwoman to the Arrowverse had already happened and she was probably already Batwoman for a little while and then the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths happened literally 1 day after the events of episode 8. And the last crossover took place 1 year before the Crisis on Infinite Earths in the Arrowverse canon.

“Either be Jason Todd or get outta here!” Me:So....dead and murdered by the fans?

CW just has the worst writers, that's why all these shows kinda suck

Yup. He went to the grave being Batman. RIP, Kevin, you absolute LEGEND.

Thanks for showing some love to the birds of prey tv series. I was very little when it came out and i've never found it online later. Still looking. Also, I love Kate Kane. The first story I read of her was the Alice arc. It felt like a fever dream, a hallucination of a comic. I knew I wasn't going to get that from CW in a million years, but this? Shitty CW.

Damn, feel bad for the actress. This show wasn't worth receiving an injury like that.

We believed Buffy because we knew she had "magical powers".

5:19 does anyone know where this is from? Or is it just fanmade?

Who is here after they canceled this show💀💀✋🏽

“Buffy was thin too” Yeah but Buffy also had super strength, so her knocking around a bunch of guys bigger than her was believable.

Why are we kidding our selves calling him "Kevin"? He is "Batman"😂

12:50 I went into this video agreeing with you, now I am subscribing lol

4:25 Sadly me I regret not watching more episodes when I was a kid.But now that I grew up a bit I’m more accepting of it and even like the first 2 episodes,the movie,and the comics.

This is the exact problem men are trying to get across. “Strong” women characters in a lot of media today are portrayed as superior to men, the men are always weak incompetent failures. For example, Rey & Luke vs Black Widow & Captain America. Rey was unstoppable, Luke was Worthless but Widow and Cap are both badasses on screen

The lgbt community SHOULD be full of love, but it is not, and it’s a huge problem. The truth is, a lot of people in the community have a certain superiority over everyone else. It’s kinda like “I’m more of a minority than you so my opinion holds more weight.” Plus you have the mothers of trans kids that start fights on the internet on their behalf. Just as a gay guy that spends all of my time just trying to love and accept everyone regardless of who they are, some portions of the community I’m in isn’t great at it.

I loved how you showed Nolan Batman to describe him in 8:43

I'm glad to see someone shitting on Batwoman who isn't a cringey, over-the-top misogynist.

I'm lesbian myself and kinda got annoyed by this being a mayor plot point close to every episode. Kinda like: yeah, I know, she's lesbian, fuck off. Most of these "lesbians are bad" plot points are even totally exaggerated and just feel unreal. Yeah, some people despise us, but not that many. Heck, most guys even ask for 3somes instead of blaming or hating on me and believe me, I'm not even close to being a beauty pageant. Yeah some parents may dislike hat, even my parents kinda disliked that there won't be any grandchildren, but that's it. And well due to my girlfriends in the past I got to meet a lot of parents of lesbians. Society just ignores us, some macho guys try to "cure" us of being lesbian, but that's it.

My biggest problem with this show was the fights. It’s like they couldn’t decide if Batwoman was an expert fighter, or completely new to fighting.

Honestly my initial thought when hearing about this series is that they were starting about this series is they were working in the wrong order. They were making a show about Kate when we still haven't had a series about Barbara Gordon or Cassandra Cain or even Stephanie Brown. That's like making a Robin show and starting off with Damian without having Dick or Jason or Tim. Never actually saw the show since the trailer didn't convince me but even so it was kinda jarring.