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Why Bioshock 2 is the Best Bioshock 

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Is it a hot take to say Bioshock 2 is the best Bioshock?
Bioshock 2 is far superior to the ambitious but convoluted Infinite, and takes from the foundation that Bioshock laid down, and improves on it in almost every single way.
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Bioshock 2 launched in early 2010 to good reviews and sales. Yet, at large, Bioshock 2 seems to be somewhat forgotten and less fondly remembered in various circles, beyond the Minerva's Den DLC, regarded as one of the best DLCs around...why is that been the case?
Bioshock 2 in a way is like Rodney Dangerfield, it seems to get no respect...well maybe no respect, but certainly deserves more.
This Bioshock 2 review, analysis, retrospective, and critique look at why I feel Bioshock 2 is the best Bioshock. From improving nearly all the shortcomings that the original had, to improved combat, a story that had more emotional depth and tugged at the heartstrings instead of messing with your mind (which for whatever reason people hold against Bioshock 2), going further into the little sister and big daddy relationships, having the series best section, and being ahead of the curve of what I like to call the "AAA Dad Simulator" games like God of War 2018, Bioshock Infinite, The Last of Us, and The Witcher 3.
Bioshock 2 is the best in the series, even without the guidance of Ken Levine, a short development time of two years (as opposed to 5ish for Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite), and making a sequel for a game that didn't necessarily need one.
⌛ TIMESTAMPS: ⌛
00:00 - Prelude
01:16 - The Making Of Bioshock 2
03:50 - The Improvements Of Bioshock 2
5:42 - Being A Big Daddy
6:11 - Little Sisters
8:35 - Big Sisters
10:31 - The Story Of Bioshock 2
12:03 - Comparison to Knights Of The Old Republic (KOTOR 1 & 2 Spoilers)
13:57 - Sofia Lamb: The Antagonist Of Bioshock 2
16:11 - The Side Characters Of Bioshock 2
19:45 - Eleanor Lamb
21:36 - Bioshock 2 And The "AAA Dad Simulator"
24:10 - The Tragic Story Of Mark And Cindy Meltzer
26:39 - The Greatest Scene In All Of Bioshock
27:46 - Aftermath
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@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
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@MCFPapa
@MCFPapa 3 года назад
It's really impressive how many voice lines the Little Sisters have in this game. They'll give comments on every Plasmid you use, when you're in combat, when you use a vending machine, and my favorite "even daddy's toys have toys" when you use a Power to the People. If you usually save them they'll bounce happily and be glad when you want to adopt them, but if you usually harvest them they'll cower in fear and say that they'll be good really driving home how messed up it is to harvest them.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
I could never get myself to harvest them. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-96j6peCrjb4.html there's a good 20ish minutes of voice lines they did. Great work.
@thiccmonkey3382
@thiccmonkey3382 3 года назад
I could but only to get the sad ending
@albertpen1508
@albertpen1508 3 года назад
i dont know anybody who harvests them. when i do i tend to not know them anymore
@claymoura2484
@claymoura2484 3 года назад
I wish if you were going to harvest them when they said things like “I’ll be good promise” and stuff like that You could back out and save them instead
@drakep.5857
@drakep.5857 3 года назад
Something I just love Is when I set splicers on fire the little sisters say "Marshmellows!"
@t_k_blitz4837
@t_k_blitz4837 3 года назад
I felt genuinely proud, watching Elanor tear it up in her Big Sister suit.
@the.nerd.knight2078
@the.nerd.knight2078 2 года назад
same dude tho i was sad i didnt want my baby girl to have to commint such the same horrible acts as violence as i did
@SpamtonG._Spamton
@SpamtonG._Spamton Год назад
Delta: Your doing great! (in Big dady noises) Elanor : is commiting first degree murder** :D
@idiot_city5244
@idiot_city5244 Год назад
It's corny as hell
@SpamtonG._Spamton
@SpamtonG._Spamton Год назад
@@idiot_city5244 the 2nd is? PEOPLE SAY THE THIRD IS, ITS THE SAME PREMISE LOST DAUGHTER GETS TAKEN AWAY AND HE TRACKS HER DOWN WHICH CAUSES VIOLENCE AND THEY HAVE CULT ESC FOLLOWING TOO SO I GUESS INF IS TOO
@yus62
@yus62 3 года назад
I still don't understand why one of the most used arguments against BioShock 2 is that it is like the first Game and brings nothing new. But I mean is it not the reason why we make Sequels, besides Money. To expand on a already established world, to build on the predecessor, to show the aftermath or give a new Spin on things. And in my opinion BioShock 2 achieved all of them and is not only a perfect Sequel but a masterpiece in itself.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Yep - they explored more in a world that had more to explore, and did a great job with it.
@user-dx8sw8uu8o
@user-dx8sw8uu8o 3 года назад
Than Doom 2 suposed to be a bad game as well, it's just a map WAD with 1 new weapon and like 6 new demons. Obviously far inferior version of Doom 1.
@saplkereviz6824
@saplkereviz6824 3 года назад
Them people are blind. "Nothing new" ??? We play as a BIG FUCKING DADDY :D Some people except too much, i think...
@letsBrn
@letsBrn 3 года назад
@@saplkereviz6824 well the gameplay is pretty much the same. But i will give that dual wieling works a lot better than the original.
@saplkereviz6824
@saplkereviz6824 3 года назад
@@letsBrn Two words: Subject Delta
@KnoxCarbon
@KnoxCarbon 3 года назад
I think the devs knew they couldn't top the original game's story, so they kept it more simple and improved everything else.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
And as a result, made a better story.
@KnoxCarbon
@KnoxCarbon 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch I still prefer the original's story, but BioShock 2's story is still incredible.
@callmepsycho3132
@callmepsycho3132 3 года назад
@@KnoxCarbon I completely agree.
@africancouscous
@africancouscous 3 года назад
@@tcrh3156 no wtf
@170KX
@170KX 3 года назад
I preferred Bioshock 2 but All your opinions are equally valid because you like what you like
@pacificgrim4661
@pacificgrim4661 3 года назад
Rule of Little Sisters harvesting Adam from corpse: No Harvesting Without Mini Turret
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Ah the mini turret...
@Estrella3
@Estrella3 2 года назад
👌
@deadshotdaiquiri8177
@deadshotdaiquiri8177 2 года назад
I cover them in trap rivets and go ham
@zzxp1
@zzxp1 Месяц назад
Me, an intelectual: Tornado traps charged with bees.
@redseagaming7832
@redseagaming7832 Месяц назад
Trap rivets, you put those where they're most likely to spawn in
@crazy_tulip1552
@crazy_tulip1552 3 года назад
I always thought I was alone in thinking Bioshock 2 was the best one. The levels are so much more interactive and antagonists like the Big Sister were really a game changer. We were able to delve deeper into the story of rapture and that was so interesting to me. When I got to play as the little sister towards the end of the game I was completely blown away. I had always wondered what life in rapture was like for them and that gave us a little peek into their world. Amazing video!
@Modie
@Modie 8 месяцев назад
Personally, I think the game fails at something the first game was really good: combining gameplay with story. You play a Big Daddy in Bioshock 2, but aside from a few weapons (who aren't even that powerful) you could totally forget this fact because the game plays exactly like the first one. I don't understand what the point was of playing a Big Daddy when you could change the story at the beginning that this was just your actual daughter that was kidnapped. It would change nothing. And I think this shows the main flaw of the story.
@radek4634
@radek4634 6 месяцев назад
@@Modie I do not agree. The story was great in 2. The main difference is that in 1 the entire story is thrown in the players face and there is no option to ignore it. In 2, everything was subtle and you had to feel it yourself, because no one in the game told the player directly what to feel and how (apart from the end). The player as Big daddy does not identify with the character, he just is him, unlike in the first part, where you play as someone specific and learn the story through the eyes of that character. Once you know the plot of the first game and there are no surprises, the game seems flat. You know exactly what awaits you and whole game feels boring. You can play the second part a second time and your emotions will only be stronger, because they are yours. Unfortunately, most people either get something given and described, or cannot find anything on their own. Most people are too stupid to find their emotions in the second part and thats why this game is not as popular as the simple first one.
@Modie
@Modie 5 месяцев назад
@@radek4634 For someone telling others that they just didn't get the story because it wasn't in their face, you seem to completely miss the point of my comment. In that BS2 failed to bring the medium game into their narrative. I never said that the story in itself was bad. But that the gameplay did not mesh well with the story at all. Something BS1 did masterfully which is why it has such a big impact when first playing it.
@The_Wolf_Fury
@The_Wolf_Fury 2 года назад
I could say that the redesign of the little sisters are an improvement as well. The original (first generation) sisters were portrayed as little monsters that the player would have little or no emotional attachments to when it comes to rescuing or harvesting (you monsters). However, the new (second generation) sisters are more cute and innocent looking that would definitely give the player much more emotional attachments to them along with playing as a Big Daddy. Myself as a player for both games, I have this to say when it comes to my decision on how I treat the sisters. Bioshock 1: I could go either direction, be a good person and rescue them all or be a monster and have their Adam all for myself. Bioshock 2: I don’t have the heart to harvest. I am a Big Daddy after all. Rescue them all.
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 Год назад
Them thing are ugly as hell in the original, hahah.
@wokeuplikedis1500
@wokeuplikedis1500 Год назад
@@user-cz7gq2ze8y They're supposed to be more "cutesy and heartwarming" because that's how the Big Daddy's see them
@livingtoaster
@livingtoaster Год назад
Aren’t there consequences to harvesting a little sister in bioshock? I remember one time I got curious and decided to harvest one then what do you know, *big_sister_screech.mp4*
@idiot_city5244
@idiot_city5244 Год назад
They look so much better in the original it's not even a comparison
@JeffarryLounder
@JeffarryLounder Год назад
I heard an interesting theory that the reason little sisters look different and much more cute in Bioshock 2 is because you are in the shoes of a big daddy, whose brain is literally wired to love and want to protect them. Why would they look like little gremlins in their eyes?
@pokedexter3337
@pokedexter3337 3 года назад
I think bioshock 2 is unbelievably good and the best in the series as well. This video is also super well done!
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
It's the true patrician choice.
@slyaspie4934
@slyaspie4934 3 года назад
Definitely agree I never really got the whole disappointing sequel thing, for me it was an improvement over the first in every way, from gameplay to level design and story. Maybe it didn't have the big twist ending of the other 2 but it was still good and Minerva's den was even better story than any of the other Bioshocks IMO.
@stuartbagley2586
@stuartbagley2586 3 года назад
Agreed. The gaming press really poisoned the well by focusing on the fact that this was not the original team and relentlessly bashing the multiplayer without giving it a fair shake. “Bioshock is a single player game and doesn’t need multiplayer” was a common refrain. The game really deserves more respect for sure.
@basvangeest5485
@basvangeest5485 3 года назад
@@slyaspie4934 it always felt really short and linear to me. And just more of the same. Also, way less scary because suddenly we ARE the scary part of the city. Story implications were cool and gameplay was somewhat improved, but i felt 1 was way better in every way other than that.
@bruhmoment552
@bruhmoment552 2 года назад
I personally like infinite a lot more ans bioshock 1 but I think bioshock 2 is still great
@Xathian
@Xathian 3 года назад
Easily the best. I'm always amused when I hear it called a rehash of the first one story wise because it's honestly shocking to see people so completely miss the point of the narrative mirroring of societal collapse under both sides of the pendulum of objectivism and collectivism.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Maybe it's a bias, but I am seeing more and more people come around on Bioshock 2 as the best one.
@aleisinwndrlen7113
@aleisinwndrlen7113 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch Even better with the dlc, Minerva's Den. More and more people are making a video about it, and hopefully, people would start to visit the amazing lost chapter of Bioshock
@7Roeth
@7Roeth 2 года назад
When the 1st game is as good as it was, I never see a need to venture far away anyhow lol. I liked Bioshock 1&2 just the way they are.
@idiot_city5244
@idiot_city5244 Год назад
Easily the best...? How pompously wrong you are lol
@Modie
@Modie 8 месяцев назад
Ehm, I haven't heard the argument, but I am pretty sure they are not talking about the story but the gameplay. Because despite playing a Big Daddy, the gameplay feels exactly like the first one. You could literally change the fact that you are Big Daddy into just a normal person living in Rapture whose daughter was taken away in the beginning and the rest of the game could stay the same. Is that a good use of the medium "game" when you play as this powerful being but you don't feel that powerful at all?
@bradleyduffy3880
@bradleyduffy3880 3 года назад
That Big Sister scream still gives me anxiety every time i hear it
@jacobrobinson787
@jacobrobinson787 3 года назад
it's like the cloaker sound from PD2
@iupobur4235
@iupobur4235 2 года назад
Wearing headphones with the volume up is a major mistake. Felt my skull vibrate. 😂
@brandondaniels2027
@brandondaniels2027 3 года назад
I recently re-played the series after getting the remastered bundle and my love for bioshock 2 has stood the test of time. I don't know why but everytime i save a little sister or pick her up after she is done collecting adam warms my heart. "You always save me from the monsters" "are we going to be together again?". It is impossible for me to harvest them. I did it once and it made me feel like a monster.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
I never once tried to harvest them in 2.
@zagg8687
@zagg8687 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch i cant do it either
@notactive9296
@notactive9296 3 года назад
The one time I tried on a fresh playthrough, I immediately felt disgusted and removed my save
@vergiemorrison928
@vergiemorrison928 2 года назад
Literally just screwed up my ending because of angrily mashing the Y button after respawning in a vita chamber forgetting that the little sister you were protecting is standing right infront of it. 🤦🏾‍♂️ that’s the only downside of bioshock 2 if you harvest even one little sister you get the neutral ending and Eleanor takes that one instance as “oh I’ll just kill them oh well”
@retarddog6505
@retarddog6505 2 года назад
@@BoulderPunch I rescued all in b1, and since they swapped buttons in b2... let's just say I re-loaded pretty quickly
@TheFloodFourm
@TheFloodFourm 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 has subjectively the best world. A lost underwater city.
@callmepsycho3132
@callmepsycho3132 3 года назад
Was this a joke?
@TheFloodFourm
@TheFloodFourm 3 года назад
@@callmepsycho3132 funny it could be. Bioshock 1 is also a lost city but to me it's more like a city on the brink of being lost. Bioshock 2 is that lost city. Its halls appear more like a modern version of how you imagine the lost city of atlantis to look. There are a lot of underwater interiors and even in places where water is still just leaking in algae and other life can be seen beginning to grow and take hold. Its beautiful imo but I can absolutely understand why someone would prefer the bioshock 1
@callmepsycho3132
@callmepsycho3132 3 года назад
@@TheFloodFourm Ohhhh I Understand. The part I was questioning was the lost underwater city part. Personally, I like the story and creativity of BioShock, but even though BioShock 2 doesn’t have as good as a story, I do like it. The gameplay is improved, the world looks amazing, and I have even more respect for it as it wasn’t made by the same team and they barely had time to make it.
@noram8103
@noram8103 3 года назад
@@TheFloodFourm and in bioshock 1 ryan was still alive, hoping to fix things. But in bioshock 2 there's nothing they can do to save the city.
@MatthewCampbell765
@MatthewCampbell765 3 года назад
With Bioshock 2, one thing I likes is that it adds what I call "Lateral Morality" with the choice of whether or not to kill each level's 'boss'. Basically, there's two big types of moral choices: Lateral, and Vertical. Vertical Morality assumes the player wants to be good and expects that they know what the right moral choice is. Lateral Morality assumes the player can do the right thing, but asks them what.
@RainingMetal
@RainingMetal 3 года назад
A bit of it is poorly executed. The extremes of each of the lateral outcomes tend to be biased in favor of the vertical outcome. So the game treats you like a super saint even if you only spare one of the bosses, but save all the little sisters. This results in the sadistic choice between sparing Grace Holloway (nobody really spares Stanley Poole or Alex the Great) and letting Sofia Lamb get away, or euthanizing Grace in order to kill Sofia Lamb.
@jacobrobinson787
@jacobrobinson787 3 года назад
@@RainingMetal I spared Grace because in the end, she wasn't evil. Just a very lonely and sad woman who lost everything. I killed Stanley because he made Eleanor into a little sister. And I put Gil out of his misery because no sane person would want to live like...that. But I wish I could've killed Sofia. That bitch was cuckoo.
@the.nerd.knight2078
@the.nerd.knight2078 2 года назад
@@jacobrobinson787 i basically had the same thing but i spare grace becuase she had been leid to by eleanor and used as a disposible pawn that poor lady thought we where the person that kidnapped elenaor when in reality we where both victims i couldnt bring myself to kill her since she and i just wanted the same thing to protect Elanor even on my third playthrough even though i liked the secound ending more because grace wasnt a villian she was a victim
@MatthewCampbell765
@MatthewCampbell765 2 года назад
@@RainingMetal I'd argue sparing bosses is "lateral morality" whereas sparing little sisters is "vertical morality". Killing bosses isn't really evil per se (or at least not strongly evil). It's more about if you value mercy or justice.
@RainingMetal
@RainingMetal 2 года назад
@@MatthewCampbell765 Which is understandable but the lack of flexibility when it comes to a majority in the "lateral morality" category prevents me from obtaining my most favored outcome possible. If the lateral morality went with a simple majority rule as opposed to being determined by the vertical morality without an absolute outcome things would be a lot better.
@christophersheets5452
@christophersheets5452 3 года назад
Tbh, playing Bioshock Infinite for the first time last year made me want to replay Bioshock 2 more than anything else
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
That's a good sign.
@the.nerd.knight2078
@the.nerd.knight2078 2 года назад
yea the story kinda loses all thats special about it if you understand multiverse theory unlike how bioshock 2 shows the evil of the opposite side of Ryan's beliefs a religious cult that has everything thing controlled by the state aka commies but with cult
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 Год назад
2 was traditional patriarchy (literally being a good Big Daddy). Stupid and maudlin but sweet and fun. That made the intellectual writers so angry they made Infinite into a stupid and lazy morality play against white male patriarchy, with your daughter punishing you for your entire social class's generational crimes. It's like they went out and hired a bunch of really talented but insane Marxist feminist writers or something. Eh, anyway, the art was nice.
@T0xicZ
@T0xicZ 3 года назад
One BioShock Infnite taking influence as a dad simulator: It is crazy how similar the basic plot beats of these games are. Which makes sense as Jordan Thomas was on staff for it too. Both involve rescuing a captive girl. They are both the Lamb, the divine daughter of a religious cult -- one whose leader has other motives to those beliefs. Both of which are their respective parents. They have also been given powers from a young age without their control or consent. They make an effort to contextualize the relationship between these young women as fathers to the protagonist. This all makes sense when you consider Infinite was a cobbled together mess of different plots that changed so much and the final story was likely pieced together in 6 months.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Yeah, IIRC Jordan came in at a later time, wasn't there too long, and left shortly before the release. But I want to say this was more late 2011 or 2012, so well past the E3 demos we got. I've tossed around the idea of doing a video on what exactly happened with Bioshock Infinite (the E3 demos vs. what we got), would be interesting to piece that together.
@Hambo325
@Hambo325 3 года назад
I mean, that's the point made in bioshock infinite. The same basic premise in a million diffrent ways. Not to give spoilers but that was on purpose lol
@T0xicZ
@T0xicZ 3 года назад
@@Hambo325 Just because that's the purpose doesn't mean that's good or that it necessarily does it well. It doesn't brush away gameplay and story issues that are separated from the twist.
@reptomicus
@reptomicus 3 года назад
It was the original plot to Bioshock 1. To rescue a girl from a religious cult. Though in that iteration you were to hand her to de-programmers.
@tj5425
@tj5425 3 года назад
Constants and Variables.
@robrick9361
@robrick9361 3 года назад
Gameplay in Bioshock 2 is objectively the best of the series. Plus people bring up Fort Frolic but no one recalls the orphanage in Bioshock 2 which was a great and creepy level.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
On that note, I don't think any of the levels hit the high that Fort Frolic does, but the gameplay is so much better.
@robrick9361
@robrick9361 3 года назад
@alessio tiscali Commas are your friend, use them.
@yourgameisstupid
@yourgameisstupid 2 года назад
The English language would benefit if the word "objectively" were removed entirely, since apparently no one can use it properly.
@robrick9361
@robrick9361 2 года назад
@@yourgameisstupid My comment was specifically about gameplay. Name me one gameplay element Bioshock 2 didn't improve on compared to the first game? It objectively has the best gameplay.
@yourgameisstupid
@yourgameisstupid 2 года назад
@@robrick9361 You can't even measure "improvement" of gameplay. It is inherently a *subjective* assessment. Period. End of story. *By* *definition* . You're only digging in deeper as far as misuse of the word "objective" is concerned. For what it's worth, my subjective assessment is also that Bioshock 2's gameplay is the best of the series. By far.
@BlindBison
@BlindBison 3 года назад
Minnerva’s Den is so good - the peak of the series right there imo. Regarding Infinite Matthew Matosis has an incredibly good critique of that game that I’d highly recommend checking out. Crowbcat also covered much of the cut content, changes, and awesome stuff from the early demos which we never got.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Matthew's video on Infinite is spot on.
@BlindBison
@BlindBison 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch it’s really good, yeah
@marcogianesello6083
@marcogianesello6083 3 года назад
@@BlindBison his criticism of the story is complete trash, anyone who's gonna take the argument to how "tima travel doesn't make sense" when talking about infinite is clearly more concerned with self serving circular pointless jargon that builds a mountain of complaints on the basis of "time travel doesn't logically work", which is an argument that you can stretch to endlessness while you're busy not tackling or even thinking about its actual purpose or place in the actual story that is going on beneath the coat of out there sci fi fantasy stuff
@WarlockX4
@WarlockX4 2 года назад
@Marco Gianesello your minimizing of the time travel aspect is complete trash. It made absolutely zero sense in terms of narrative. Infinite was praised for the lack luster story and game play when in reality it was a shallow mess of narrative and gunplay that when put under the tiniest of scrutiny completely fell apart and revealed that the game was overhyped and as deep as a puddle. But everyone looked past it because "my hook arm" and "cool combat yo." And sadly that's why game companies keep churning out garbage like Infinite. People like to be fed trash because they can't loom at a game for what it really is and say, "no. I'm not eating this."
@BlindBison
@BlindBison 2 года назад
@@WarlockX4 Mathew Matosis has a really good critique of Infinite on YT where he goes into some of that stuff. I enjoyed Infinite but the story had some problems yeah.
@doodookaka
@doodookaka 3 года назад
For me, the twist in BioShock 2 was discovering that your choices influenced and guided Eleanor into the person she'd become. It's comparatively quite different from 'would you kindly', but it is a revelation--as I don't think it's clear up until that point that your choices are actually affecting and guiding this other person. That being a father, a parent is an actually explored theme beyond simply escorting a disney princess through an ideologically-incoherent theme park is a feat of this game--BioShock 2 takes parenting a bit more seriously than many games, especially Infinite. Saving little sisters, or killing them in the 1st BioShock might make you feel good or terrible, but mostly only for yourself and in the context of expecting a good, bad ending. That still applies here, of course, but there's an added layer applied by the recontextualization of finding out that you were guiding Eleanor through your choices--some sense of responsibility for the way your choices were actually affecting and changing this other person. Kind of like the sense of responsibility that being a parent should entail. Hell, we even get more complex moral choices in killing or sparing each level's antagonist. In fact, this also makes the good/neutral/bad endings make more sense. I don't think BioShock 1's good/bad endings were illogical, but the moral choices leading to the outcomes is less natural than it is here. Here, it totally and obviously makes sense why your choices led to the outcome we get. Better yet, where Infinite's (stupid) father-daughter story told through multiverse wackiness undermines and sidelines its ideological themes, BioShock 2's heart actually meshes pretty well with the ideological themes about community versus individuality, the self and the common good. Eleanor's monologues during the endings reflect on themes of forgiveness, community, conscience and change. Family is a theme in Lamb's ideology/religion quite obviously running parallel with the actual idea of family that we get with Delta and Eleanor. The cold, lifeless husk of a concept sharing only the same word--family--compared with the actual thing, animated by familial love. BioShock 1 engages with objectivism by showing us the dead city, about how the ideology kind of made this outcome inevitable. BioShock 1 also wants to engage with family but for whatever reason its rushed. Family is not a proper answer to the ideology of Ryan in 1 so much as it is a convenient way for the narrative to end happily. At the very least, it ties in with the idea that Jack had no actual family--so maybe he would've wanted one? There's just not enough time or presentation given to those ideas in the 1st game to give them proper weight. There're the big daddies, little sisters. There's the false memories of family, there's Atlas's false family blown up in the submarine, and there's Jack's family of saved little sisters in the ending--but there's not really enough connective tissue to get all these ideas to hang together for some kind of real takeaway. One could say that, like with Lamb's ideology, Ryan's anarcho-capitalist market forces hollow out the family and use it to keep goods and money flowing--big daddies and little sisters, and there're audio diaries that would justify that interpretation. But the 1st game doesn't really have a positive answer to Andrew Ryan's beliefs. It really just leaves us with the negative: this clearly didn't work (I do like the way the ideology meshes with the twist--Jack's father literally telling his son to overcome his upbringing and uh..literal brainwashing by pulling himself up by his bootstraps and choosing to be a man, not a slave, dammit! Proceeds to be literally beaten to death because he believes so completely in his ideology. For some, this moment is almost tragic--to me it's tragic comedy.) EDIT: BioShock 1 and Infinite actually do want, I think, to meld heart and mind--they just don't pull it off while 2 does. (BioShock 1 is of course a much better game than Infinite, just pointing this out) I agree about wanting an extra level in 2! BioShock 1 overstays its welcome and the last levels ended up feeling like filler, but it is a nice chance to play the game with a decked out build, full research. BioShock 2's gameplay is so, so much better and there's so much more opportunity for different combinations of tonics and plasmids, but it wisely tries to not overstay its welcome and keep the pacing tight. I just wish I could get a little bit more, maybe like 1 or 2 more levels? But still shorter than 1. In the end, heart, family and love do win out over Lamb's ideology in BioShock 2, but it's earned. Instead of being rushed, BioShock 2's heart, its emotional elements are present throughout the game. In fact, its really family, heart and love that are the game's answer to Lamb's ideology. Sure, maybe Lamb sounds kind of wacky, fanatical--but the city is already ruined, its not really like Rapture was getting much worse with her influence. No, it's really through your moral choices, through guiding Eleanor rightly, through parenting that BioShock 2 answers Lamb. So that, in the end, after watching Delta show mercy to the wicked and give bad people second chances, Eleanor can--despite everything--show mercy to Sofia Lamb. In the end, having a family, helping others, serving the common good doesn't mean rejecting your own self, your own ego, your own good as Lamb wants us to--it often means seeing all the ugliness of human vice and sin in others--and still choosing to forgive them, knowing that same darkness is a part of yourself. We have to see ourselves in others. --forgive me for all this writing! I'm a graduate student in political theory, can't help myself.
@febcortes5878
@febcortes5878 2 года назад
Don't apologize my good man, great read!
@fpedrosa2076
@fpedrosa2076 2 года назад
Thank you for this comment. And the edit. Read through it all and loved it. Would read/watch a full analysis if you published it. Great stuff.
@kevintablet743
@kevintablet743 Год назад
Sorry lad I completely and utterly refute this You'd swear by this that bioshock 2 was their crowing achievement and infinite was the worst. I genuinely sometimes can't wrap my head around the 2 fans who then go on to shut down infinite Objectively speaking 2 has the exact same location as 1, so the surrealism firstly ebbs off. Secondly, the relationship between Eleanor and Delta, paired with Sinclair and Little Sisters are objectively the only good things about this game. Big Sisters are a disgrace to the series, an absolute thundering disgrace. It's already difficult enough for a first time player to face big daddy's, even while being one. Now your reward for clearing a level of big daddy's is to then face an absolute pain in the arse. I really would also love for you to tell me exactly how 2s story is better then 1 in any regard. I'm glad they didn't try to take an entirely new twist and went for a father daughter relationship that binded the plot together, but Dr Sofia Lamb and her disciples versus Frank Fontaine, Atlas and Andrew Ryan, and Comstock in Infinite. Are you taking the piss with this? Are you genuinely being serious? Where is the comparison? Where is the objectively superior story to 1? (and I can't genuinely believe you did that, again, think about this, you put 1s story below 2. What.) I don't want to shit over bioshock 2 fans, but it's painfully obvious that because it was considered a black sheep of the family to punch above it's weight fans of that game attempt to argue why it destroys 1 and infinite (again, come on man, you're telling me the plot twist that it's your daughter all along, with the reality that infinite universes exist which then ties choice for players to live any reality they want is entirely inferior to everything in 2?), to where we get videos like "infinite is shit, end of" and "bioshock 1 was overrated". Bioshock 2 deserves a place in the series as much as 1 and infinite does. I really wish these comparison videos trying to make one game be better then the others would stop, and it's always 2 fans that do this. Yous don't have to punch above your weight anymore like that, there are objective flaws and issues with the teams that made this story that will in the test of time hold the game back, but when you combine it with bioshocks story as a whole its value is brilliant. (For the record as I don't want fans to be saying Im a hater, 2 should be objectively played, as it's a damn good game. I just disagree with that entire comment.)
@doodookaka
@doodookaka Год назад
@@kevintablet743 sorry bro, dunno what to tell ya, you don't make much of an argument or engage with, let alone refute, much of anything I said. You just kind of repeat, with many words, in a very exasperated voice, how shocked you are that I would say that 2 is better than the other ones. For the record, I don't make much of an argument than 2 is just straight up 'better' in all aspects than 1 in my comment, I just compare the things they both try to do, and in many cases, 2 does them better/is a more coherent package than 1. You are on the comments of a video that argues that 2 is the best, so I dunno why you'd be surprised. You are talking to someone that is probably the biggest BioShock Infinite antifan in the universe, won't make any headway with me there. Infinite's gameplay, storytelling/twist, politics/world design are all MAJOR steps backward from 1 and 2, but also Infinite is a pretty mediocre/meh game just ON ITS OWN. The only upload on my channel is me shitting on Infinite for like a half hour. This youtuber's channel also has videos trashing Infinite for its wasted potential. For me at least, Infinite is out of the running entirely for 'best in the series', no question, no SHOT, it's not even CLOSE. --and yes, Infinite's plot twist is trash, the pinnacle example of 'fake deep' fiction that deluded so many into thinking its profound. Nice things about Infinite? The art design is great, its still very pretty, the concept of the city is cool. Draper and Baker give great performances as Elizabeth and Booker, really stand out. When comparing 1 and 2, which is the only discussion to be had, I'm not denigrating 1 by saying 2 did stuff better than it, b/c it's a sequel, of course it improves things (crazy how Infinite did the opposite). 1 has a medium-defining twist, Ryan is a great character, I love the political commentary. I still enjoy the gameplay, some of the levels are really great, well designed--Fort Frolic stands out. There's some filler in pacing--the later levels, Arcadia for sure, but the worldbuilding fleshes out every area, makes it immersive. It's a well-realized world. But 2, having the benefit of coming afterwards, gets to build on that foundation and improve a lot of things. The gameplay is universally an improvement all around in terms of weapons, plasmids, tonics, build diversity. The research system is better. The pacing is better. I suppose I'd grant you that I'm not wholly happy w/implementation of big sisters either--they had ambitions to do more with them/make it more dynamic but weren't able to do it for w/e reason. Insofar as all 3 games attempt some kind of family motif, 2 does it best out of all of them and does it in a way that is seamless, does not clash with the game's ideological themes/the villain/central conflict/twist--it all blends together perfectly, even if it's not as "ambitious" as 1 or Infinite is. It has a more emotionally impactful story, even if I will always respect 1 for what it is/being a classic. It improves on all of 1's weaker points and creates a more whole/coherent experience, even if it's not shooting for the moon. 1 shoots for the moon and succeeds during its best moments, Infinite attempts the same and explodes while launching. 2's comparative lack of ambition hurt its perception among fans of the series when it released and for ~5 years after, and now people are just going back to reevaluate it as a game and judge it on its own merits instead, and realizing that yeah, on balance it might be the most well-rounded game of the series. Nothing wrong with people realizing that--it's just true. I'm not really a 'fan' of 2 either, I think there are a lot of other games/series out there with great writing that I might hold higher than any BioShock game--but I like BioShock (1 & 2) and enjoy debating which is the best.
@kevintablet743
@kevintablet743 Год назад
@@doodookaka lad we are so far away in opinions on this it will create conflict I made the response because I disagreed with what you said personally, knowing I was going into a video on the subject matter of 2, which I outlined. You can take of that what you will, I personally threw myself into the firing line for it anyway so that's fine. You just said you spent half an hour on your only video on RU-vid shitting on infinite. I cannot even continue this because I cannot for one second understand why you would want to shit on/break apart a game like that. Far as I'm considered, this is a waste of time for the pair of us, and I apologise as I have wasted your time by forcing you to come back to this conversation with the response you made. We are way too far away in opinion on this, I should never have made my comment in the first place. Never mind
@gamerito100
@gamerito100 3 года назад
Short answer: You have a drill xD
@TheCrimsonCrows
@TheCrimsonCrows 3 года назад
I think bioshock 2 is so wholesome and nice and i love the endings
@legion999
@legion999 3 года назад
Yeah. 1's is very enjoyable and has great characters, but 2's more emotional and relationship driven story speaks to me better. Some criticise "insufficient" motivation of the protag, but knowledge of big daddies and little sisters and the intro made me care enough.
@The-mcnuggit-man
@The-mcnuggit-man 2 года назад
*bad ending has entered chat*
@TheCrimsonCrows
@TheCrimsonCrows 2 года назад
@@The-mcnuggit-man nooo not the bad ending AAAAAA
@The-mcnuggit-man
@The-mcnuggit-man 2 года назад
@@TheCrimsonCrows I know I know
@7Roeth
@7Roeth 2 года назад
It is weird how anything in Rapture could be wholesome, but it was, that is just part of the beauty of this unique game.
@sigmapopsical272
@sigmapopsical272 3 года назад
The thing about bioshock 2 Is when you hear a little sister shout daddy help! It genuinely makes you determined to save her from the splicers You feel like a big daddy and you feel like a badass
@t_k_blitz4837
@t_k_blitz4837 3 года назад
I almost died the first time she said "Ooh, marshmallows!!"
@LulaLeFleur
@LulaLeFleur 2 года назад
I’m always nervous when I go to tell people that Bioshock 2 is my favorite cause people usually start throwing stones. The first one is obviously fantastic and a classic but I always enjoyed 2 more. I won’t even talk about 3 cause I don’t have many good things to say about it.
@noahmueller709
@noahmueller709 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 didn’t have that twist of the other games, but it had the most satisfying endings. The neutral ending had me in tears. Bioshock 1 falls flat after the twist and bioshock infinite’s story was decent. Bioshock 1s mechanics were not perfect while bioshock infinite was a mechanical failure with a horrible money system, weapon upgrade system, and possession being too good compared to all other vigors. Bioshock 2 had the greatest combat, fleshed out plasmids, and the little sisters actually look like children instead of grotesque 3rd anime girls like infinite. So much of bioshock 2 was good and it’s criminally underrated. The argument that bioshock 1 is better because it’s iconic is such a flawed argument, compared to 2 being superior in ALMOST every single way. But that’s just my opinion I guess.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Yeah, the quality dip in Bioshock after the twist is really apparent...here the game builds up to a nice crescendo.
@ConkerTS
@ConkerTS 3 года назад
I've never understood the people who say that the first game didn't need a sequel, and who write off Bioshock 2 as unnecessary and so not worth playing. First of all, if we didn't 'need' a second Bioshock game, then we didn't need a second Beatles album, a second Star Wars movie, a second Harry Potter book, a second anything. Secondly, Rapture was a city, with tens of thousands of inhabitants.Those people lived through, or died in, a civil war. Those people who displaced from the surface, had to readjust to living under-water, away from the world, they saw amazing things like plasmids and flying, autonomous gun turrets that could hunt down intruders, and those people witnessed their 'perfect' society become almost Hellish. There are literally thousands of potentially very interesting stories that could be written about Rapture, so how can anyone think another story set in Rapture wouldn't be worth exploring? Thirdly, we're talking about a game. A game can be great even if it retreads the same story as a hundred other games. So even if it was true that a sequel to Bioshock couldn't have a good story (and it is demonstrably not true, just look at B2's story, or Minerva's Den's story) then so what? A great game could still be set in Rapture (as B2 and Minerva's Den both prove).
@tropicalhorizongaming5459
@tropicalhorizongaming5459 3 года назад
Agreed with all your points.
@ssorvete89
@ssorvete89 3 года назад
Bioshock 1 tells a more interesting and original story, other than that bio 2 is more fun yes.
@johnhouston1590
@johnhouston1590 3 года назад
Yeah every point you just made is your opinion. All 3 are fantastic games.
@KillAlllYourFriends
@KillAlllYourFriends 3 года назад
As someone who has just finished playing all three of the games for the first time ever, I couldn't agree more with what you said. The scene you play as a little sister made me pause the game for a few minutes just to reflect on how genius it is and the ending made me tear up. Great job on the video!
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Thanks!
@Grandmastergav86
@Grandmastergav86 Год назад
The ending is the perfect end to the series IMO Infinite was unnecessary and with the redesign, I honestly think it should've been scrapped. It's a classic case of being dangerously in love with your own fiction, you're unable to detach yourself to realise the readily apparent flaws in your work - I believe this is what happened to Levine and his team.
@thisbubblygoodness7611
@thisbubblygoodness7611 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 is one of my all time favourite games, its also cool to know that the people who worked on Dishonored, another favourite franchise of mine, helped with the making of Bioshock 2
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
It was a nice surprise to discover that.
@creeprnsidelink1918
@creeprnsidelink1918 2 года назад
That makes sense since Bioshock 2 and Dishonored had a morality system. Yes Bioshock 1 had different endings but they didn't feel as impactful as the Bioshock 2's endings. There was also the choice of saving or killing not just Little Sisters (which killing or not also gives you different levels of Adam), but characters who are part of your (Delta) backstory and killing or not only affects the endings, so it's choosing to be the monster people see you as or as a good man, with Dishonored doing the same thing.
@thisbubblygoodness7611
@thisbubblygoodness7611 2 года назад
@@creeprnsidelink1918 not to mention its kinda a similar arching story, Father Figure with symbol on his hand basically butchers their way to their daughter i mean, obviously thats not entirely true but you get me
@creeprnsidelink1918
@creeprnsidelink1918 2 года назад
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 Well with Dishonored, killing or not killing anybody affects the story and the world itself.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 3 года назад
I like how everyone is realizing that Infinite was shoehorned into the series to boost sales, all it has is a title and a quick trip to Rapture that lasts a few minutes at best to connect it to the other two games. Of course they tried to link it further with Burial at Sea, but it just makes the story even more convoluted. Every version of DeWitt and thus Elizabeth were killed at the end of Infinite’s base game, so how the hell is Burial at Sea even happening?
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Infinite is one of those games if you put any thought into the multiverse plot for more than a minute, it collapse in on itself.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch to quote Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation, “the game goes up its own ass.”
@mariomanzanaresgalvan6563
@mariomanzanaresgalvan6563 3 года назад
Elisabeth does not die on the main game, the booker your played throught the game did. You did not understand the story.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 3 года назад
@@mariomanzanaresgalvan6563 if Booker is drowned at the baptism following the Wounded Knee Massacre, the moment he splits into the Booker we play as, Comstock, and all of the other infinite versions of Booker that exist, then Elizabeth can’t be born, which makes the entire game a self-cancelling paradox.
@mariomanzanaresgalvan6563
@mariomanzanaresgalvan6563 3 года назад
Elisabeth is alive and pretty much a god , she dies later on the dlc. Again, you did not understand the story.
@existalive
@existalive 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 was my jam! I remember coming home every day from high school and playing this until I went to bed. Beat the story, np just restart and on and on and on. Such a good game.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Wish I gave it a chance when it came out instead of years later on a steam sale.
@davidbanan.
@davidbanan. 2 года назад
This was me with bioshock 1, it was the first game where i felt i had to play it, when i got home its probably the reason why i play games ad much as i do now
@existalive
@existalive 2 года назад
@@davidbanan. I love BS1. I remember my buddy in 6th grade had it on his xbox. We'd hang out after school and play it with the lights out and curtains drawn.
@moewzers9136
@moewzers9136 3 года назад
I was 10 when Bioshock 2 launched and little me was so fucking excited to play as a Big Daddy. Like I cannot put into words how much I loved it.
@Pokekart47
@Pokekart47 3 года назад
Man I thought this too when I played them all recently, Bioshock and Minerva's Den are genuinely incredible
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
It's nice to see people come around on 2.
@amigobatata9014
@amigobatata9014 3 года назад
What i use to say to defend bioshock 2 as my favorite, is : "I played Bioshock 1 until its half and then stopped because i found it boring, but with Bioshock 2, i had just finished it and already wanted to play it again..."
@saidinstouch2186
@saidinstouch2186 3 года назад
That perfectly describes my feelings about this game! If I ever want to go to Rapture, Bioshock 2 is my go to.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Bioshock wore out its welcome, while 2 I wish had another level or two.
@tylert2116
@tylert2116 3 года назад
I still remember how little time we had with telekinesis 3...🥲
@7Roeth
@7Roeth 2 года назад
found Bioshock 1 boring is a sentence I will never understand, but I'm glad you enjoyed the 2nd one at least lol.
@Ronam0451
@Ronam0451 2 года назад
@@7Roeth I also find it kinda boring. From the start of the game to Neptune's bounty it's pretty boring. And then everything after killing Ryan is pretty bad. But I'm sure that's just because I played the game a lot.
@memuskhan9976
@memuskhan9976 3 года назад
Once I found out you couldn't carry more than 2 guns in Infinite, Bioshock 2 was immediately cemented as my favorite in the series
@lulagoodwin5372
@lulagoodwin5372 3 года назад
I've waited 11 years t o see this video
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
It's reputation has grown over time.
@lulagoodwin5372
@lulagoodwin5372 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch ive always thought bioshock 2 was the best and everyone else said it was the worst lol
@lulagoodwin5372
@lulagoodwin5372 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch you spoke about it with a degree of clarity that I couldnt hope for haha
@Kelis98
@Kelis98 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 is an amazing game, it’s just as great as 1 and Infinite (even more so in certain areas). It’s always nice to see it get the love it deserves and it’s good that it’s gotten more love over the years. It’s hard to say what my favorite Bioshock game is as I love them all, but if I had to choose, I would probably choose 2 (though the other two would be close seconds/thirds).
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Happy to spread that love.
@savvyburritos
@savvyburritos 3 года назад
i’m so happy i came across this video. you shared a lot of the sentiments i felt when playing bs2 and it’s my favourite in the series. the combat is so compelling and it felt like a sequel that built upon the original, but didn’t over step its boundaries. Bs2 also has the coolest fucking gameplay when protecting the little sisters while they are harvesting splicers! solid video!
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
The gameplay held out the whole way through.
@shaunmcleod9983
@shaunmcleod9983 2 года назад
I absolutely love this game much more then the first BioShock and the thing about BioShock 2 not only its story and narrative is that my only child my daughter Meara was born six months prior to this game coming out and has cemented my emotional bond of being a father to my daughter in such a way that I will never forget and my daughter even watched me play this game and at very very young age and still talks to me about it and loves this game as much as I do we both want to try to do a big daddy little sister Halloween costume combo together some day.
@darkmaximuss8795
@darkmaximuss8795 Месяц назад
Congratulations to you and your daughter, being a father must be an incredible experience... one of my dreams one day and one of the reasons this is my dream is Bioshock 2.
@zillauniverse7208
@zillauniverse7208 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 is criminally underrated and my favorite in the series, I’m glad it’s getting the recognition it deserves now. Also here’s my ranking on all the games Bioshock 9/10 Bioshock 2 9/10 Bioshock Infinite 8/10
@DZ-X3
@DZ-X3 3 месяца назад
I would agree with 29/10 as a fair rating for Bioshock 2.
@bennygerow
@bennygerow 2 года назад
B2 was the first one I played. I liked it so much that I went back and bought the first one, and I never did think that the second was the lesser sibling. B2 in a vacuum, to people like me who didn't have any expectations from the first one (beyond it being extremely well received) was truly just an amazing game that left me wanting more Bioshock.
@adventureandsebastian
@adventureandsebastian Год назад
Id like to point out that according to the audio logs, subject delta was a savage big daddy. He would routinely kill off multiple people before he was ever paired with Eleanor. He was The Big Daddy. its not just a gameplay thing that he tears through an army of splicers in Bio 2 its apart of the story. Delta was the strongest big daddy lore wise and gameplay. Sophia lamb couldnt do anything to stop him. THAT IS THE STORY. from point A to B subject delta and is massacring the remaining citizens of rapture and left that city like a ghost town when he did die from 30+ crates of TNT blowing up in his face.
@darkmaximuss8795
@darkmaximuss8795 Месяц назад
Yeah many people say he is "weaker" than other Big Daddies but he is NOT, he of course is a bit less strong and resistant because he is an Alpha Series but he is faster, more agile and mainly more versatile because he can carry all the weapons of other big daddies and can use plasmids and gene tonics to improve himself. The main thing that makes him so powerful in bioshock 2 too is that, when he is revived and awakened after years by Eleanor he becomes conscious, so he is not just any Big Daddy, he is the most versatile Big Daddy and still has sentience like anyone else, being able to make choices and think about everything you are going to do.
@kingcrimsonzaba5324
@kingcrimsonzaba5324 3 года назад
The first Bioshock is intouchable imo , but the second one is also fantastic. I loved the endings, and the ending made me cry for the first and only time during walktrough of videogame.
@kingcrimsonzaba5324
@kingcrimsonzaba5324 3 года назад
@@theplagueddoctor3686 It's not the best game of course and it's probably worse than system shock, writing have some problems, but you can see the brief moments of Atlas's true character. For example he tells you to consume every little sister. If you had done that, you would have too much ADAM to spend. You made some good points. I think that first Bioshock is still better than 2 and Infinite.
@MartialLoreNZ
@MartialLoreNZ 3 года назад
Unmentioned: the Little Sister scene prefigures the entire graphic design aesthetic of Bioshock Infinite, soft light, dreamy, washed-out color palette, etc....
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Good catch.
@regilad_9043
@regilad_9043 3 года назад
now dont get me wrong, I absolutely adore all 3 games, I love how different all 3 are while managing feel like there in the same world, but bioshock 2 is undoubtably the most refined, and I love how it was abled to do what the other 2 did with way less Also as much as I like infinite i do agree it has tons of problems, the biggest one simply being its ending which was very outta left feild and confusing
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Infinite has a very messy plot.
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 Год назад
"very outta left feild and confusing" Once you've taken a few college literature courses on leftist writings and writers, it ceases to be confusing. I could write more but I'm trying to avoid obvious spoilers. The imagery is pretty blunt.
@hopperhelp1
@hopperhelp1 Год назад
I’m so angry I didn’t see this sooner. I remember looking forward to this game, following its development, played it, loved it dearly and was extremely upset to see that everyone else hated it. Like I adore this game and to hear that people think it’s trash hurts.
@maddu8437
@maddu8437 3 года назад
Thank you for this. I’ve always said that 2 was the best in the series only to be told that “I’m just trying to be different than other people” so I’m really glad to see someone else who shares the same opinion.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 chads rise up.
@ilovelctr
@ilovelctr 3 года назад
BioShock 2 definitely has the best level design and the best gameplay, which renders Infinite's dull gameplay an utter joke, far more so than it would be if without the comparison. The core reason of BioShock 1 always being highly revered is its deep story and well-established lore, and the ending of that game is mesmerizing, although Ken Levine deems it poorly written and so do many gamers. I think BioShock 2's story is very good for what it is, that is, a sequel. After all, I'm not a story guy, so I play games for fun gameplay. It would have been even better if BioShock 2 had been closer to SS2 or Deus Ex with regards to player's freedom, but since in the first place, Irrational Games decided not to make the OG BioShock an immersive sim, not much could be done with the sequel even with the help of Arkane. Edit: P.S. One of the primest successes of BS2 is that every once in a while, the game really allows you to prepare for an upcoming fight, so that all the traps you could lay down become meaningful. And this bit, was especially lacking in BioShock 1, if without the hindsight for a save reload or a second playthrough.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Except for those Little Sister fights which always take me for a surprise.
@kennykelly9735
@kennykelly9735 2 года назад
Bioshock is a immersive sim what are you talking about?
@MatthewCampbell765
@MatthewCampbell765 3 года назад
I haven't finished the video yet, but I'm 80% sure that the AAA Dad Simulator was primarily inspired by The Walking Dead Telltale Adventure Game.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Oh yeah, how could I forget that one? Granted, it only came out a few months prior to Bioshock Infinite or The Last of Us.
@deadlyinfamous66
@deadlyinfamous66 3 года назад
Those little sister voice transactions are so cute
@mackennakanzig
@mackennakanzig 2 года назад
literallyyy i’ve been obsessed with bioshock 1 and 2 since they came out, infinite was just so random compared to the underwater world but i guess i could see where they got it from. the first two are so amazing and have such a great aesthetic! i don’t know how people couldn’t like them!
@jacobrobinson787
@jacobrobinson787 3 года назад
Despite a game breaking bug near the end, I admit I loved 2 more than 1 in terms of gameplay. As for story, 1 was better. 1 had a damn good twist. But Fort Frolic was by far the most interesting level I've played in years, even if aggravating. But B2 will forever be in my heart because of the man who gave up everything for his daughter: Mark. This man is a fucking legend and deserves father of the fucking millennium award. There's not one character from a game I've played that's sacrificed everything just for their daughter. He was the one BD I felt absolutely shitty about killing... and the fact that Cindy, his daughter and the little sister he was protecting, wouldn't stop crying even when I adopted her hurt.
@InitialPC
@InitialPC 8 месяцев назад
you shouldnt feel bad about killing him as a bd, you put him out of his misery, the only positive to him being a bd was being able to protect his daughter, but since youre rescuing cindy as delta, his protection is no longer required and can rest
@missalex2718
@missalex2718 4 месяца назад
@@InitialPC😢🥹😭
@darkmaximuss8795
@darkmaximuss8795 Месяц назад
Yeah bioshock 2 crashes a little bit too much in the end, mainly in its remastered version.
@yokiryuchan7655
@yokiryuchan7655 3 года назад
I also like how Subject Delta doesn't have a voice, or a face, so basically Subject Delta is us. When Subject Delta takes off his helmet it's my face.
@semkok7759
@semkok7759 2 года назад
I’ve always said this . Bio shock 2 is 10x more fun with the action and makes u feel like beast by the end of the game . The first one not so much but they have different atmospheres so it depends what u prefer
@Ckoz2829
@Ckoz2829 3 года назад
I always hate hearing about how amazing a game could have been but then the publishers say, “nah make us Call of Duty.” CoD fans don’t want an Underwater CoD rip off. They want CoD. That being said, I’m very happy with how Bioshock 2 ended up. I was soured on the remaster because it kept crashing on me making it unplayable. I haven’t touched the game since, but just recently I got it to run on my aging Xbox 360 without a hitch (ok it glitched on the very latest level and I had to restart it but the rest of the game ran flawlessly). I finished it and immediately started Minerva’s Den and had a blast. Bioshock 2 is definitely my favorite in the series and I’m happy I got to play it again without any issues. Also, a friend and I used to play the multiplayer a lot back in the day. It was fun, but it was nothing special. You got your basic game modes like death match, capture the little sister, king of the hill and their team based variants. Once in a while a diving suit would spawn and the first one their gets to play as the big daddy and clean house lol. All the maps were based on locations from the first game which was pretty cool. I also liked how the whole multiplayer mode was set against the backdrop of Rapture’s downfall, like a prequel. The best part was as you level up and unlock new weapons and stuff, you’d also unlock audio diaries of the characters and hear some of their backstory and how they got caught up in the civil war and became a splicer. It was a neat touch. I also liked how red and blue teams where Ryan and Altus respectively, so when a match started you’d hear somebody on a megaphone spit propaganda. All in all, though, it’s not important to the story as a whole and can be skipped without missing something major.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Yeah the crashes could be frustrating, found some workarounds on the steam discussion page that helped.
@Ckoz2829
@Ckoz2829 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch I was playing on console. As far as I know, there are no work arounds to the crashes. That’s just something you gotta live with, especially with the remaster. The remastered version of 2 was nearly unplayable for me. I’m surprised a technically inferior version ran better than whats supposed to be the optimal way to play. Chalk it up to lazy remasters I guess. It’s a shame too because the other two games look and run near flawlessly, it’s just 2 that has the problem.
@phlegios
@phlegios Год назад
One of the main differences in how Bio1 and Bio2 were done is the scale of the respective stories. In Bio1 the story revolves around Andrew's "political party" and Atlas' "political party" who try to seize power over Rupture with Tenenbaum (not sure if I spelled it correctly) trying to set the protagonist on a neutral path, saving the city but with disregard to both villains' ambitions. Jack follows orders until the end, just acting on command (until he breaks the conditioning), doing something for someone else's sake. He has no personal stake in the story, all of his drives are purely external. And that's where Bio2 goes its own way. In Bio2 the story is grounded and personal. Internal motivation of our protagonist is what drives him to get to his daughter and the fact that a band of power hungry maniacs stands between him and his daughter is just an obstacle, not an agent to make a deal with. And that's why it didn't impress players all that much, if I were to guess. It's the same with Kotor 1 and 2, though if you remove Kreia from the 2nd game, K2 would feel like shit while if you remove K1's plot twist it would still remain somewhat OK-ish game, albeit banal copypasta of The New Hope (which it is anyways). Also, people tend to overestimate Kreia's deconstruction of the Force and the SW universe in general. It's an ok attempt but there's nothing really that eye opening about it. The only reason K2 is held in high regard is because of Kreia's character existing in that game; take her away and you've got a boring sequal no one would play; they did make slight improvements to the combat system and added crafting, so there's that.
@Drew_2152
@Drew_2152 3 года назад
The tapes and characters itself give you a reason to care like when you choose not to kill grace in her room like all those kind words she said and the fact I changed her mind on big daddies was amazing.
@fabiogoulart1987
@fabiogoulart1987 3 года назад
The first time I played Bioshock 2 I think Sinclair had been voiced by Matthew Mcconaughey haha
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
I...can now actually here the resemblance now that you mention it.
@melvinm.261
@melvinm.261 3 года назад
Hate to be that guy, but it was Doug Boyd who voiced Sinclair, though I understand why you might've thought it was Matthew McConaughey.
@rustyhardy5371
@rustyhardy5371 3 года назад
Pam, from Cannot be Tamed sent me here. Great video. I too loved Bioshock 2. For the same reasons. Your doing important work.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Thanks! Yeah it was interesting to see that shout-out.
@nome9752
@nome9752 3 года назад
i hate how underrated bioshock and how praised infinite is even tought it is the worst bioshock
@tijarslv
@tijarslv 3 года назад
how is it the worst if it's the best
@TheTaintedWisdom
@TheTaintedWisdom 3 года назад
3:15 - That... sounds fucking *awesome!* My idea after Bioshock 2 was to be a big sister that was in stasis facing a ticking clock as ADAM starts ravaging her body and mind, giving you access to regenerating EVE and being more/entirely plasmid-focused. Trying to escape Rapture, learning about the experiments done to understand ADAM and explaining why Ryan wasn't revived by the VITA Chambers in Bioshock 1. Maybe even bring him back as an antagonist unable to let the dream of his city go, though I think that would be ill-advised since it would be painfully easy to fuck it up.
@jacobrobinson787
@jacobrobinson787 3 года назад
It's the route a lot of FF writers have taken, in regards to Ryan.
@richrad7806
@richrad7806 3 года назад
I am one of the few who enjoyed bioshock 2 more than i expected too. Just running around and fighting the splicers. Leave the map then have then fight each other. Have the big daddies also fight each other was tons of fun.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Combat was really well done.
@ThatManSam666
@ThatManSam666 2 года назад
Hands down the best game in the series. I loved every moment of it when it came out and revisit it every year.
@mythfall4537
@mythfall4537 3 года назад
I played this game for the first time in October of 2020, I was 10 years when bioshock 2 released and my first experience with bioshock 1 was not the best because I was terrified back in 2008. I remember that people were really harsh and said that it was a cash grab. After those years I finally decided to play it, and well, it was the only bioshock that I knew nothing except I was a big daddy. And I loved every single aspect of the game. The near end of rapture setting, the eve reload animation, the combat, the mechanics, the storyline, I mean yeah bioshock 1 and infinite have those shocking endings but Idk why bioshock 2 captured me more than those 2. I love this game and I think it’s the best on the series. Maybe because the game doesn’t have a plot twist, but I don’t really know
@nickseeker3173
@nickseeker3173 3 года назад
Wow, i haven't seen too many quality BS2 video's covering why it's easily the most underrated in the series. Well done!!
@alexanderthemagnifcent2573
@alexanderthemagnifcent2573 3 года назад
I’VE FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME ❤️😁❤️😁❤️😁❤️😁❤️
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
We're out there.
@leroygraveman5891
@leroygraveman5891 3 года назад
I thought I was the only one too
@Mattattackgames
@Mattattackgames 3 года назад
Right bro!? After always seeing people say that this was the worst bioshock it's refreshing to see that maybe people are slowly warming up to how fun and memorable this game is. Subject Delta will always be my favorite game protagonist
@sethstrattan7380
@sethstrattan7380 Год назад
I love playing Bioshock 2. It’s the game I always come back to a lot.
@omfg622
@omfg622 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 is not so much as a game about the history of rapture but one about the little sisters and their future. So many interactions in that game pulled at my heart and really put you in that protector role. The plot twist of 1 was great and Infinite was created to patch all the plot holes but Bioshock 2 really kick starts my paternal instincts as a Big Daddy And ill be Damned if one of those Splicing fucks touches my Daughters.
@Reyeston007
@Reyeston007 3 года назад
Here's what I remembered from my childhood: Bioshock 1 Fun combat, amazing story and immersive environments. Bioshock 2 Amazing combat. I don't remember the story that well. Infinite: Cool graphics. Good story and ok combat.
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha 3 года назад
Strange, the Bioshock 2 story for me stood out he most of all 3, something I didn't expect to happen. Infact I thought Bioshock 2 would suck, ended up being my personal favorite of the series.
@goldenhorse4823
@goldenhorse4823 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 is my favorite game ever. I have no shame. Bioshock 1 has best story, Bioshock 2 best gameplay and main charachter( It is in tie with Bio1) and for Infinite I have nothing.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
It's been nice to put this video out and see those who also view Bioshock 2 as the best Bioshock.
@gomaplayzyt3603
@gomaplayzyt3603 3 года назад
I’d rather say bioshock 1 has an amazing plot twist, but after that, it feels boring
@LaMishiMish
@LaMishiMish Месяц назад
Bio 2 is hands down my favorite of the trilogy. I LOVE that I get to be a Big Daddy and take care of my Little Sisters, and help them become normal little girls again. (All but that *one* time I harvested them all *just* to see the difference in Adam, and honestly? Not worth it. You get by just as well when you get the Little Sisters to harvest after obtaining each one, *and* rescue them. Their gifts are a bonus and make up for that 'lack of adam' you get when you *would* harvest them. It was all for science I swear!) Not to mention Sinclair is just a grade A snack for me and I love his character, among all the new ones we come across, Elenore, Grace, Stanley, Gil, Lamb. Just returning to Rapture with the kinks worked out from the first game? I couldn't ask for a more perfect Bioshock game. The story is always amazing to play through, and every time I play through all three? It's 2 I always look forward to getting to.
@PlasmidJunkie
@PlasmidJunkie 2 года назад
The harpoon gun. That's what makes this game awesome. There is no better feeling than firing a spear at a splicer's face and watching him fly through the air and get pinned to a wall.
@ConkerTS
@ConkerTS 3 года назад
I've always thought Bioshock 2 is by far the best of the three games. It does most things better than the first game, such as the hacking (in the first game it was tedious, wasn't done in real time (which harmed the immersion factor), and sometimes in B1 you'd randomly get an impossible layout), B2 has better and more varied plasmids, the bot patching is better (in the first game the flying turrets could get lost when trying to find you), the levels (areas) are mostly more interesting, the morality system is deeper (though not by much, sadly), the weapons are more interesting, the new features (such as the new enemies, the way you have to guard the little sisters whilst they gather Adam, etc) are mostly great, and best of all, the game's enjoyment factor decrease as the game progresses (as it does with the first game after the big revalation). Bioshock 1 does have a more memorable story and more memorable characters, though. As for Bioshock: Infinite, it's often very beautiful to look at, but it's a real shame that the gameplay is so simplified. If only we'd gotten the game as it was in the early preview videos. Bioshock 2 is the only Bioshock game I frquently replay. The first is great (up until the half-way point, and then it really goes downhill, anyway) but feels like a collection of scripted events. Infinite is well worth playing, but if so simplified that it's often forgettable, and I hate the stupid and pretentious ending. But B2 is extremely replayable, I find.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Yeah the first isn't one I find hugely replayable.
@fluiypj
@fluiypj 3 года назад
This is a great video, you’re going places with this content I think
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Hope so!
@xhonzi
@xhonzi 4 месяца назад
I find the Little Sister Moment at the end of the game to be just as fantastic as the Would You Kindly twist in the first game. I think they're both equally unexpected and surprising, even if one does not constitute a twist. I was enjoying the second game up until that segment, but that was a revelation that elevated the entire affair.
@TerraMcgarden
@TerraMcgarden Год назад
I loved how they explored the big daddy little sister concept in this. You get to be the big daddy, you get to collect little sisters, guard them as they harvest, hell you even get to play as a little sister in one part as mentioned up there! It's cool seeing how your actions make the later part of the game look. The little sister level you will see "daddy" and how he treats the people he chose to kill or spare. You get to hear how Eleanor acts whether its corruption or saved. But I think what really got me the most, was when you finish gathering the items for elaborate as a little sister, you get to experience what you've been doing to the sisters in the game. You get to either be harvested or cured. And thats really good for realizing your actions
@godofdeath8785
@godofdeath8785 10 месяцев назад
Idk i just killed them because i wanted adam sometimes i pressed wrong button but killed them again after some time
@cruxlamar9681
@cruxlamar9681 3 года назад
I literally just finished beating this game😆
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Such a great game.
@MCoconut97
@MCoconut97 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch absolutely!
@codydagg2259
@codydagg2259 3 года назад
Best one of the series. Much darker and depth.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Could be conformation bias, but lots of the comments agree.
@djfluffy123
@djfluffy123 2 года назад
Bioshock 2 was the first Bioshock I played and it led me to play 1 and Infinite. It’s just as magical as the other 2 and my personal favorite of the series. The amount of times I’ve played through the game is countless.
@hyperborean2576
@hyperborean2576 2 года назад
In Bioshock 2 you get to play as the most badass character of all Bioshock games, a Big Daddy. It is also the darkest game of the trilogy (that is a big plus for me). The gameplay is the best by far, the plasmids and weapons are really fun to use and upgrade. I also appreciate all the freedom you have to come up with strategies to overcome your enemies. Without a doubt, this is the best Bioshock game.
@thomas-son9281
@thomas-son9281 2 года назад
Bioshock 2 do be an outstanding sequel that people seem to sleep on tho
@slapstickcomedy2.0.18
@slapstickcomedy2.0.18 3 года назад
It was the first BioShock I ever played and that's before I touched the first game which I also enjoyed playing.
@JoshuaJacobs83
@JoshuaJacobs83 2 года назад
The first game will always be legendary, especially the twist but I agree. The second holds so many memories and makes me really consider what it means to be a father. I played it when I was single, but seeing how Eleanor reacts to you really hit home for me. It made me realize, even though this is fiction, how deeply a father’s actions can affect a child. It inspired me to be a good father and husband. And I met a lifelong friend through the online games, so that’s a bonus too
@derp9193
@derp9193 3 года назад
I played all 3 Bioshock games back to back for the first time recently and I honestly enjoyed all of them.
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha 3 года назад
I remember thinking Bioshock 2 would be horrible... Multiplayer? No Levine working on itetc.. I was so sure it would suck, but when the game came out I gave it a chance and boy I am glad I did! The campaign was fantastic, enjoyed it more than the 1st.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Год назад
It’s like the opposite reaction to Burial At Sea.
@coffee0093
@coffee0093 3 года назад
I loved Bioshock 1, it was my first xbox 360 game! Bioshock 2 was my favorite though; the story, gameplay, and soundtrack was so good and the multiplayer was a hidden gem. I had 100% achievements for both games on 360 before the multiplayer map pack. I just wish the remaster gave Bioshock 2 a new game plus mode like the original remaster and put the fucking multiplayer back in. Hated Infinite though, I consider Singularity my unofficial Bioshock Infinite.
@coffee0093
@coffee0093 3 года назад
Note about the multiplayer: It was made by the Warframe devs of all people and was like CoD on steroids. It did the Payday 2 thing where you had a ton of freedom with loadouts including weapons with steampunk af attachments, tonics that altered your play-style, and plasmids that compliment your weapon. It encouraged trying combinations out and finding upper hands on people, including spots on maps like secret passage ways or high up areas. The MP had a attention to detail that made it feel right at home within the universe too.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Wish I had the chance to try out the multiplayer.
@coffee0093
@coffee0093 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch get a group of people on discord or from your subs, I'm sure you can get some lobbies going because the servers are client based rather than dedicated iirc
@A.Useless.Goddess
@A.Useless.Goddess Год назад
currently replaying the trilogy to take up time while i wait for totk. and while i absolutely love 1 and the other 2 dont take away from its legacy, im just excited to get back to bioshock 2. i have such fond memories of that game
@lifesizedaces45
@lifesizedaces45 Год назад
Currently replaying this game and realizing how amazing it is. I'm having such a good time getting platinum. I love Mark Meltzer, hope they explore his character in the upcoming Netflix adaptation
@Modie
@Modie 8 месяцев назад
I don't know. For a game that is completely centered around the relationship between Big Daddies and Little Sisters, the game doesn't really do much with it. The main thing is that you defend them. Which is okay, but ultimately it's not that much different since your little Sister can't die. She stops harvesting, but she won't die. The main problem with the game for me are therefore two things: 1) Despite playing as a Big Daddy I never felt like one. Both in terms of sturdiness but also in terms of respect. Splicers still attack you on sight even though the only reason to start combat with a Big Daddy is to get the little sister. Secondly, even after a good amount of health upgrads, you never feel as sturdy as the Big Daddy you know. Now I get that this is kind of the problem with a game. If you would be too powerful, it would defeat the purpose, but this is where point 2 comes in. 2) You don't really have to care for your little sister. She is sitting on your shoulder for the most part, having no effect on how you behave. And it could be okay if the game wanted to make a commentary about how this relationship is just for gains from both sides and therefore you not really caring about them is expected, but then they also give you the option to rescue them. Which defeats the purpose. So what I would have liked from the game is that you are actually way tankier than you are in the game. But instead, you always have to look out for your little sister. Now, I know that escort missions are kind of a problem in games, but again, the advantage is that you don't have to care too much about your own safety (at least to some degree). So the gameplay would feel different from the first game, because instead of using plasmids and weapons in a way that lets you avoid most damage, your main goal is to throw enemies away so that they can't overrun you and one steals your little sister. The way it is now, you can forgive people that they forget they play a Big Daddy and not just a normal person like in Bioshock 1. The point is you could change the beginning of the game in that you are not a Big Daddy, but Eleanor was taken from you for experiments. And the story wouldn't change. And I think it says a lot about the story when such a vital aspect of the story can just be rewritten without it affecting the rest of the game. They chose to tell a story about a Big Daddy and a little sister, but completely missed the mark on what this would mean gameplay wise. It's a nice game when only looking at gameplay and story in isolation, but a below average game when looking at the combination of the two. I mean, even the ending is the same old thing where all it does is give you a different cutscene and there is a way too obvious path to the good ending. I mean, even it's best moment, where you play as a little sister, fails to deliver on what a little sister is. Don't get me wrong, it's cool to see it from her eyes, but why do Splicers don't care about her running around? You know, the reason they are usually around Big Daddies? It could be an actually super interesting contrast. The nice colors compared to the horror of having to navigate this level without actually being seen. Instead, Splicers just don't care about you and again, the game fails to deliver on the one thing it has going for it: its medium. So when you ask why Bioshock 2 and even this scene don't get remembered as much as Bioshock 1, then because of this. Because the game was way too focused on SHOWING you the story through visuals while forgetting to let you EXPERIENCE the story through gameplay.
@greendude7650
@greendude7650 4 месяца назад
Damn you took the words right from everyone mouth you make a lot of good points friend especially about not being tankie but at least the drill works as expected but you have to remember Delta is a prototype while the next generation of big Daddy's that have been manufactured in production longer for a reason.
@damnedlegionaire
@damnedlegionaire 3 года назад
Subject Delta is a chad.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Virgin Jack & Booker vs. Chad Subject Delta. Also, Vigin Elizabeth vs. Chad Eleanor.
@ArcticRanger5O1
@ArcticRanger5O1 3 года назад
Thanks
@ArcticRanger5O1
@ArcticRanger5O1 3 года назад
@@BoulderPunch bruh
@piyushnandi6306
@piyushnandi6306 Год назад
Your comment about the player's reaction to the arrival of big sisters changing gradually from "oh crap!" to "bring it on!" is ON POINT!! It's exactly what went through my mind while playing.
@raserapps8230
@raserapps8230 Год назад
My XB1 sadly died about a month ago so until I can get the funds for a new/better one I dug out the old 360 slim, blew the dust off it and got it fired up. I have been finding pre-owned games on disk for next to nothing cost wise. Mostly around £1 or under! I have been picking up loads of them, and about 2 weeks ago got BS Infinite which I had played a few years back, and a few days back found Bioshock 2 for like 99p. I've never played this title so I don't really know the story of the Daddies and Little Sisters yet but this weekend I plan to just chill and game so I can't wait to get stuck in - even more so after watching your review on it! So thank you. I am hoping my few hours on Infinite has kinda prepared me for the overall feel and vibe of the game. I honestly can't believe the level and quality of games I've been picking up for around 1 quid. I can't wait to get stuck in. ATM I am bouncing between Skyrim (which I found a copy on disk that had all DLC's) BL2 with pretty much everything - another bargain find on disk, and Diablo 3 which I own and played a LOT on PC a while back. I am thinking bout using my capture card to record my gameplay of these older classics soon too. Anyway just felt like commenting and saying cheers for the insight to the game, can't wait to smash it over the weekend!
@BigiSmls
@BigiSmls 2 года назад
I forgot this games story compared to the other bioshocks so I just assumed it was the worst one, This brought back memories of actually how great it was. The multi-player was absolutely banging 💯
@Captain_Insano_nomercy
@Captain_Insano_nomercy 2 года назад
The multi-player really was great. Very underrated
@masterxk
@masterxk 3 года назад
I wish the protagonist was the surface father who came to look for his child. Besides that it was a good game
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
That could've been really interesting.
@amandadadesky5192
@amandadadesky5192 Год назад
9:14 -- EXCELLENT use of lyrics from an underrated Elvis Pressley song, my dude. **applause**
@BassMonstrum
@BassMonstrum 3 года назад
Bioshock 2 has always been my favourite game in the series, because of all the points that you've covered in this awesome video! Thank you for making it!
@reekyfartin
@reekyfartin 3 года назад
YES bioshock 2 was always my favorite, especially with Minervas Den oh my god it was so good.
@sangheilicommander1056
@sangheilicommander1056 Год назад
bioshock 2 is the best bioshock imo. it always has been. I feel like those who call it bad never played it. it does nothing but expand on the world in every way , environmental story telling , gameplay , graphics , and imo story (but that one is the only thing that's debatable here)
@saltycomet
@saltycomet Год назад
💯💯
@tizza963
@tizza963 2 года назад
Great video! As a huge fan of all the bioshock games i never understood how someone could like the first game and not the second.
@abrahamsimon5912
@abrahamsimon5912 Год назад
bioshock 2 was the first one i played, and honestly i think that was the best place to start. feels weird to say, but 2, 1, 3 really was the perfect order to play them in. they're all incredible though, and i actually loved the staggering twist at the end of 3, as one of the most nihilistic motions in art history.
@Metalisalearning77
@Metalisalearning77 3 года назад
Going to be honest... * I will NEVER knock the original Bioshock; it has a fantastic story, an astounding setting that bear in mind one of the most difficult things to digital simulate is the elements of Fire & Water. Which it simulates really well, a gorgeous atmosphere, engaging gameplay. -But upon thinking back; the slow combat (swapping between weapons/plasmids), the hacking (unless you have the correct tonics) can get fiddly as well as the ambiguousness of 'saving the Little Sisters' (just so as you know, the "Harvest" option NEVER EXISTS FOR ME) are you doing the right thing? & of course the sense of vulnerability as Jack Ryan. If I wanted to play as a vulnerable character I'd play FNAF, Slenderman, SCP Containment, Outlast etc. * With Bioshock 2 which I played on PS3 & revisited on PS4; found the gameplay, combat, hacking that much better! & the sense of responsibility as a Big Daddy acts as a form of intenseness. Oh yeah there's the sense of clarity when saving the Little Sisters... It still has me weeping knowing I'm doing the right thing for them! **When I think about it; Bioshock 2 in a way DOES have a "Would You Kindly" moment... ... This is the moment Sofia informs you how Eleanor (who has been telepathically following you) has been learning how you act & behave with your morality choices!! It was a BIG Uh-oh moment!! * & OH YES! there's the enormous gratification when you smash, pummel, brutalise the thuggish bullying splicers! For me; the splicers have degraded into hideous, sadistic, cowardly bullies... Hunting, tormenting, taunting & slaying those weaker than them! & the fact your something that can match them in a quality over quantity fight... }:) * & oh yeah! Minerva's Den is icing on a satisfying cake!
@Mandalore_ultimate
@Mandalore_ultimate 3 года назад
This video is really well put together and I agree with it completely.
@BoulderPunch
@BoulderPunch 3 года назад
Thanks!
@Debatra.
@Debatra. 2 года назад
Not that it really needed one; but the plot twist is that Eleanor's been watching over your shoulder the entire game. If you saved or harvested the Little Sisters, she'll do the same to the one you briefly play as, "just like you showed me". If you killed or spared the three main NPCs, she'll do the same to Sophia. You keep mentioning that this "Triple-A Dad Simulator" has no plot twist, when the fact that it's a "Dad Simulator" *is* the plot twist.
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