Body builders who say they have "Knock out power" either are horribly misinformed, or have absolutely massive egos. The ONLY way to hold up in any kind of fight, IS TO LEARN HOW TO FIGHT
When I got to a boxing gym I was stronger than everyone but my power was lacking. Probably from lack of speed. And bodybuilding muscle makes you slower. I still have decent power just would have more if I started a different training program than lifting weights
😢I can confirm. I was this typical dude who gained a lot of muscle since my skinny phase (I had no fight training) And I wrestled with a friend (same weight) who does mma and has more functional muscles He literally went easy on me and I got tired. Maybe I could fight a normal dude who doesn't train, But I stand no chance in front of a fighter even if he's 10kilos lighter😮
@@Youngster543210there is bro , when you have strong core to support your body , and you do explosive training like wrestlers do. You will gain athletic muscle. Everything comes from training
I work behind the desk. I also workout 6 days per week on boxing and fundamentals. I also practice shooting at the range and knife throwing. I am the most geekiest and dangerous man in my office and they don’t know it.
We all know that punch strength comes from the arms, and no one has bigger arms than me. I would literally solo the entire UFC roster, all at the same time.
You’re an idiot it comes from the legs arm strength actually will hinder u if it’s in the biceps only forearm strength mainly but triceps and shoulders a bit too
I agree in most of the things you say, but I have one question regarding the BMI. When you see MMA fighters in the heavyweight class, most.of them have a very high BMI, what would ve the difference compared to a bodybuilder's joints?
@@MartinRiosFit of course, but still, look at Jon Jones, 6'4 and 250 lbs is still high BMI, maybe functional muscle? Btw,love your channel it helped me a lot!
@@MartinRiosFitBMI index is a very flawed way to measure based on certain body types and at this point is largely pseudoscience Of course you don't get this though which is why you coined the phrase " obese with muscle" fucking topkek
Say what you like about the Rios brothers...you can't deny that they're not wrong. Personally, I think they preach the right things and really are making fitness great again. Keep up the good work Martin 👍
Any bodybuilder/powerlifter who learns/trains how to fight they can destroy anybody. Anytime you see a bodybuilder losing to someone they just dont know how to fight and lack conditioning. Size absolutely matters in a fight and with skill together that person can become unstoppable. Weight classes exist for a reason. Muscles matter size matters but u need skill and size to dominate bodybuilder or not!
Weight classes exist cause of natural size, not inflated bodybuilder size. Muscle size matters because muscles too big destroy your ability to fight, that's why your muscles have to be natural. And natural size is not bodybuilder size, let that sink in.
And bodybuilders only lose cause they lack conditioning... Genius what do you even think conditioning is? When a low IQ person is trying to sound high IQ...
@@MartialArtsNk Size is still size and it definitely matters and if its muscle it matters a lot. Have you ever fought in competitions of martial arts? A 150 lb hits like a 150 pounder a 285 lbs hits like a truck! Hold a dumbell grab a 85 lb a 10 lb?? Notice the difference??? Do u think a guy like brock lesnar can hit harder or floyd mayweather?? How hard do u think mike tyson hits??? When u have weight on ya especially muscle and u put everything into your punch your gonna hit really hard. Yes i agree that sometimes muscle can slow u down to a small degree but if u work on flexibility and speed muscles dont impair your fighting ability at all. Muhammad ali, foreman, mike tyson had lots of muscle had incredible speed and hit really hard! Muscles and size absolutely matter in a fight! If everything is equal the bigger man has a higher chance to win. Weight classes matter because the heavier guy or woman hits harder and is at an extreme advantage so putting a small vs big guy just isnt a fair fight thats why weight classes exist. And sure the smaller guy wont always lose but he or she is at a disadvantage. So ill say what i said before muscles and size absolutely matter in a fight and when u have good skill and technique it multiplies into each other. If a bodybuilder or strongman takes up martial arts game over for anybody!! Yoi dont believe me?? Look at a guy like brock lesnar?? The mountain any strongman taking up those combat sports thats really scary to go up against someone like that!
I've seen your videos reviewing Cbum and Sara Saffari's top 10 exercises and I learned so much from them! I made my own list based on athletic bodybuilding principles and I'd like to know your opinion: Dumbell front raise Barbell front raise Decline chest press machine Standing bench press Bodyweight push-ups Leg press Smith machine squat Leg extension Calf raise Behind the neck lat pull down
@@TheCatabolicTrexI agree to an extent that if your shoulders are better with mobility you can get away it more. I can say that for myself at least. But why wouldn’t you just do a normal lat pull down? A experienced lifter is good at the basics. You don’t need to do super unique things to have a nice physique.
no, they're used for fighting, not self defence, ego is still the killer, look at Leandro Lo, Tiago Guma, Kbabib's pal and Jose Campuzano, the latter barely survived a street altercation, the other 3 all dead all due to ego brought upon by mma and bjj
No they don't mate, it's so not easy to understand it considering you don't understand it. Look at Anatoly, a skinny powerlifter, easily outdoing any bodybuilder out there in lifting weights. They don't train power lifting, they train body building, body... Building. Inflating their muscles.
@@SINdaBlock411 Lil bro, stop lying. There is 0 ego brought upon by MMA, training MMA humbles your ego, makes you humble. There are exceptions who lack self control in any discipline, lets not use a few outliers are the proof, educate yourself.
@@MartialArtsNk is that why people like conor beat up elders is that why ronda still cant admit defeat a decade later why renzo picks fights with bouncers and random people on the subway why jon Jones cant stay out of legal trouble and why tiago guma died ... wake up dingus
i've been getting overconfident with these videos. when i go out with friends, i'm always starting fights with bodybuilders. some do and some don't know how to fight..... most do...........
@@handeggchan1057 Mate, most people (especially women) think that bodybuilders not only can fight but beat everybody. That's how it goes. I know, most people are.... Special in a common way.... That's why we don't befriend most people.
@MartialArtsNk well, compared to the average person who doesn't train anything, a BBer would win. That's what most people probably mean. But unless there is data you can present about what "most women" think, it is just conjecture.
@@handeggchan1057 I mean did you never really talk with women? Ever watch them? How about this, have a photo of a bodybuilder next to a pro UFC fighter without his gear on so he looks average. Go around and ask women (and men) who do they think would win between those 2. Case closed.
Surely the question should be does the bodybuilding physique translate to exceeding at fighting. Saying can bodybuilders fight or not is like saying can skinny guys fight can fat guys fight, anyone can fight if they learn how to fight
Hey Mario, my P.E school teacher told that exercising at 14 can stung growth, I don't believe her because in my research seems like it's not true, I do calisthenics can do 13 pull ups, and 40 push ups, I workout 2 hours a day is it true that this will stunt my growth
Franco Columbu was pro boxer, Arnold was in the Army, Ronnie was a police officer, Dorian did time, & Tookie Williams (founding member of the Crips Gang) was an amateur bodybuilder. Bodybuilders come from all different backgrounds some of those backgrounds include fighting.
Franco colombu did some boxing as a teen, and gave up, Arnold served in a tank division, and at that time you had to do that by law, and they weren’t under elite training, police forces are full of fat pigs who can’t even chase anybody, and founding a gang doesn’t mean you can properly fight, so congratulation for naming not a single guy who can fight
@lukeheredia7287 But Brock Lesnar would kill Mighty Mouse. So size does matter! It matters less vs non fighters. Mighty Mouse is the better all around MMA fighter. But Lesnar's physicality and power would be too much for MMto handle But saying size doesnt matter is ridiculous when we have all pro combat sports divided by weight classes 😂
@@vitigaymer1053 also well said. I’m not the one who said it doesn’t matter at all. I just think it matter a lot less than ppl like Bradley Martin think.
The point is, all comes down into these two categories. Trained or untrained. Less experienced or more experienced. Whatever you do, bodybuilding or not, a trained fighter with experience in fighting will dominate a bodybuilder with zero fighting experience That goes on to the other aspect too. An experienced bodybuilder will outlift a weight against a fighter with less experience on lifting weights.
Like he claims he was an amateur "champion" of Italy before he started bodybuilding. Before... Bef... Learn to read. And then on top of that you literally can't find a single match he's ever been a part of.
Yet all the best fighters have huge muscles Tyson Holyfield Lewis Klitschko Wilder AJ and the list goes on heavyweights are top of the food chain simple as that and bodybuilders are not fighters and most people that don’t train to fight normally can’t
I mean yeah George foreman was a stiffer slower power puncher but he also had a 76-5 boxing record. That man could fight and fight well dude would break bones into dust in the ring.
Because he had long arms and was a big dude he would swing his punches by the time they connect there going pretty fast and hurt his long arms and big size was the reason he could fight like that someone like muke tyson relied on his speed for his knockout power
This is all a bunch of bro science except for the part of bodybuilders not knowing how to fight. Everyone else in the world who doesn’t train MMA also doesn’t know how to fight but bodybuilders do have the physical advantage over non fighters, and once bodybuilders train fighting they have advantages over skinny MMA fighters under their weight class.
Most of the "bodybuilders can't fight" takes are just mass compium for skinny fat non lifting guys who don't actually know how to fight either it makes them think their skinny fat untrained ass can match jacked dudes who lift heavy who also don't train for fighting. That being said not everybody has the potential to be an elite fighter; I boxed for 2 years & eventually quit cause I just figured that I was never going pro with all the competition.
@@The11thDimension91 Yeah being bigger and stronger is still advantage in a fight. Of course a trained fighter will beat up bigger guy who doesnt know how to fight but if the big guy actually knows how to fight and their fighting skill is evenly matched then the smaller guy is in trouble. There is a reason why there are weight classes in combat sports and there are some jacked fighters. Alistar Overeem and Brock Lesnar when they had match over 12 years ago they were absolute monsters. I doubt lower weight classes would stand chance against them. Ngannou is also pretty jacked and even Mike Tyson who is arguably one of the greatest boxers of all time was pretty jacked in his prime.
No even an untrained guy are better than body builders Bodybuilders just train muscles and being fragile and dont want to movewell because they think everything will kill their gains and lazy because theres a thing in bodybuilding called rest days they dont want to move because one move stress their musvles they think it will reduces gains But in untrained guy he doesnt care what happens goes in the bar helps his mom lift many weights doesnt care about his ego work job can movewell because he moves whenever he wants Probably a construction worker too and has better core strength because hes always in a work In addition bodybuilders are only guys who sits or lay in the bed editing his muscles and everything
let's roughly say that 3 factors win fights: 1. body 2. technique 3. experience bodybuilders only have the first one. And even for number 1, the way fighters work their bodies and bodybuilders work their bodies are different. BB push and pull, which is slow. Fighters punch and kick, which are fast. They are different muscle groups. There is also speed and endurance.
Your content is way too positive for people with "right" perception Bodybuilding as a thing always disgusted me Because most of then make it their whole personality Yeah going to gym is cool and positive but it's nothing more than moving weights. And to make it your whole lifestyle is so cringe Whereas you learn so much about life when you fight. .
Since hes a hobby fighter he goes to the gym 6 days a week in the morning and trains mma at night. A fighter aspiring to be pro shouldnt do that probably just strength training 2-3 times a week and fight 4-6 times a week
Ngl athletic training definitely made me much more loose (pause) and comfortable. I went into the air force basic training as one of the most muscular guys but ran the slowest time and was more winded than fat guys because I prioritized bodybuilding and was hella stiff.
Except if you just enjoy being huge with muscles, there's absolutely no reason to be a bodybuilder on steroids Girls don't like it, you will have weak ahh core, no cardio, less chances of a long life, and way more
Skill and stamina is the most important thing when it comes to fighting. In human nature just like animal nature fighting should only be used in survival, only if necessary.
How do you think something like strongman training, which involves much more core stability and power, would compare to bodybuilding when it comes to fighting?
There have been some guys who've had the body of a bodybuilder who fought in the UFC (including when it meant something to make it there). Obviously Sean Shrek is arguable - but he was there, Gleison Tibau (from what I recall) was huge for his weight. It seems like the guys being referred to are heavyweights - but there were some guys who looked like bodybuilders who were competitive in MMA. What's the guy from awhile back - Jeff Munson(?). He could fight. There are at least exceptions - and if the bodybuilders trained, they'd spend less time lifting, but I think some would be good fighters.
I keep reading comments regarding power. Have you ever hit a nail with a hammer really hard but the nail just bends? Have you ever seen a bullet ricochet instead of penetrate? Speedxmass is part of power, but trajectory and timing are also. Learning to land your shot as your opponent plants, at an angle where they will resist the force and you have the position to blast through the target is why when Viddal Riley sparred Eddie Hall he could have knocked Eddie out in the first round and Eddie realized. I am only 195 lbs and I am not that strong but there probably arent many body builders that have my power and probably none that have the same knock out power as me due to having zero skill set. Just like body builders can squat more than NBA players but can't dunk, and the few that can couldnt dunk over an NBA defender.
I've seen two bodybuilders fight once in the parking lot of an xsport when i was in high school. It was kinda like watching two kangaroos fight. They spent most of the it, flexing, then hugging, then swiping, then back to hugging, then some more flexing. It sounds funny in my mind, but when I think back, I just cringe.
In terms of fighting ability, there's only two sets: Those who trained and know how to fight, and those who don't. Bodybuilders are just one of the top subsets of those who don't. A bodybuilder has a higher chance of winning in a fight vs an average person, and an even higher chance vs a couch potato.
You just need to go to a relatively popular MMA gym to see bodybuilders come in for a few weeks, die from exhaustion 15 minutes after the warmup is done. Weight is weight and the body, having to move that whole chunky mass of yours would it be fat or muscle, will get tired.
So your argument is that if you train one thing you're not going to be Good at another thing that requires another type of training, Is that right Also Martin, you've never actually had a fight
I seriously agree with you Martin, bodybuilders can't fight at all, and no wonder why Sara saffari is with a Bradley Martyn whom is bodybuilder who is trying to fight when he cant😂
