Why can't Southeast Asians and Polynesians understand each other's languages? 

Even Tagalog and Kapampangan people in the Philippines, that's only a few hours distance from one another, cannot understand each other. To be exact, the Kapampangan homeland is only two hours away from the Tagalog homeland. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

As a half Javanese and half Sundanese, this is so true. I can only speak Javanese, so whenever my Sundanese family speak in their native language I was like, "this is Indonesia! SPEAK INDONESIAN!!"

Even the Malays sometimes can't understand each other. I'm Riau Malay and my friend is Batubara Malay, having trouble communicating using ours respective Malay language.

"Gedang" Javanese pointings at banana. Sundanese pointings at papaya.

@@keongdarat7171 even here at the same city, Prabumulih, south Sumatera. There is two native languages, Rambang language and belido language. And it's still quite hard to understand each other language because of the word differencies. Not because the dialect, although some words my sounds similar.

Me neither! I only had a suspicion when a Maori-speaking friend told me that "Waitangi" meant "Weeping Waters" and I immediately thought of the word "tangis" in Bahasa Malaysia and Indonesia. But that was very recently :)

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Palauan is the one with the strangest word evolution. like *sakit -> rakt *kaen -> kain, kaon, kaun, kan, kai, but Palauan; kal -> menga, milenga, kma, killii, kollii, omeka, keka, kla, etc.

Indonesia: fire = Api. Mata = Mata. Tangi = wake up (javanese), Angi = Angin.

It's crazy because different sub-branches of the language Palau officially not Asian

I understood it as 'eye of the storm/typhoon'

mata ng bagyo is much understandable

Mata angin.

Tb9

These are basic travel and trade words - the kind where even today one would bring in a foreign phrase book to get by on an overseas or foreign trip. Sharing these basic limited numbers of words DONT make a language group on its own - which is why I reiterate over and over that the linguistic terms Malayo Polynesian and Austronesian are overbroad and try to include the kitchen sink of languages. Not.

based off of the spelling with the diacritics, is Jarai a tonal language?

​@@JJ-cy9fdIf that's the case, why hasn't every single language just use the english numbering system?

Are the Chamic people speaking the same language and Jarai is one of its dialects or is it a different language from Cham?

You don’t need to say “Filipino/Tagalog” just “Tagalog

perhaps they thought you were speaking chavacano.

In Chamorro, earth or land is “tano”

I was pretty amazed by the fact that he even found "tany" for the word "cry" which I had to think for a moment before realizing "tany" and "tomany" actually share the same root word.

Oh I know how you feel. I only started (to my embarrassment) dipping my toe in Blust's research about 5 years ago. There are apparently lots of cognates hidden by all kinds sound changes but yes, the connections are still there.

He is talkinfg about tagalog

Im convinced the Phillipines was a spot where a lot of different voyaging societies made home

Im from Minahasa in North Sulawesi And fale is very similar to bale/vale which means house! And sick is masaki'/masakit

@@akar-ex3xj I think us Polynesians come directly from you. Because you guys also have the word Tangaloa for your god and so do we

@@BarHawa Hm maybe? in our old mythology we call the god of the sea TAGAROA our neighboring tribe the sangih people call him tagharuang but the difference is that for us he is a god of the sea and for them he is the ghost that tricks sailors. Tagaroa nowdays is barely known anymore because most of our people chose to live in the mountains. We also call him Tagaroa i Matua with Matua meaning old but it is used as a title of respect that can be given to parents, ancestors, and gods. I also noticed a few other words in polynesian languages that are similar to our words like fenua, manu and langi/rangi In minahasan we have the word banua/wanua/vanua which means land or village Manuk which means chicken And langit/langi' which means sky And our numbers are similar Esa, Rua, Telu, Epat, Lima, Enem, Pitu, Walu, Siaw, Sangapulu.

@@akar-ex3xj Matua is the same in Polynesian. We say Tangaloa Langi because we believe he's in the sky, you're spot on with those other connections too. We have the same roots ♥️

@@BarHawa thats very interesting! And yes I agree we have the same roots but I belive you might find more connection with the tribes of the Philippine because the people of minahasa came from the philippines with boats in ancient times and brought Tagaroa with them. Also what do you call coconut over there? ❤

Im Cambodian and i dont understand Thai's languages. We kinda sound the same, but its very different.

Uso that south American theory is fake, it's just what the white people believe, There's strong evidence that we share same identity as some south east Asian countries.

​@@DankDave211 sorry bro don't think Cambos are part of the Austronesian gang

@@doggystylesixtynine Da fuck you're talkin about??

The one thing all Austronesian would agree on is the word, coz we all say it as Lima/rima

it is interesting how the spanish language influence tagalog, and that thing in the video comparing the languages from a great language family to its reconstructed ancestor language remids me of the comparison of english, spanish, russian, greek, irish, farsi and hindi to its reconstructed ancestor laguage called proto-indoeuropean.

'Tangis' is visayan word for cry... and it's also an old tagalog word

All his errors is an evidence of how complicated Tagalog is in terms of grammar and sentence structure. Foreign people may find Indonesian/Malay easier while Tagalog can take them months or years to be fluent with the language.

wow except for fire.

1 islan can have more than 2-4 duferent language

I worked on a fishing boat (catching & processing, so, fairly large) with an international crew. We had one Tongan guy, 2-3 Samoans, and one Hawaiian man. Even though they didn’t know eachother before, a social clique developed with those guys having different fabric worn in the galley, and they could understand eachother: especially the Hawaiian guy. He was older, and because he was so respectable & respected, I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew the “High Hawaiian” spoken by upper/ruling class Hawaiians. This totally blew my mind because of the distance of the islands and also because we were never taught about Amerikan Samoa in public school in the Continental USA-

Quasi-related (because this didn’t come from my island friends, it came from a magazine article) : I read about people from Hawaii and Tonga going to visit an old tattoo grandmother on Fiji or maybe the Philippines to obtain the old proper tattoos because she was still alive and still did things the old way. I’m super interested because she was soooooo far away and being an outsider (an American of Irish ethnicity) I don’t think I’m allowed to be told about the tattoos full significance. But, family stuff that would be understood on somebody’s home island being inked by a master on a far away island is super fascinating. I worked in Taiwan for a few years, and learned of local peoples’ face tattoos and I’m super interested in that, also (because of their brave resistance to Japanese colonialism, and because many have retained their languages even though Taiwan’s demography changed to 98% Hahn Chinese). I looked at boats everywhere on Taiwan. I saw canoes, and I saw flat-bottom dories (built differently than our New England skiffs), but I did not see the outrigger canoes that the Polynesians are famous for. I looked though, and it’s something I WANTED to see (because I love learning about this sort of thing).

@@miahconnell23I believe the old tattooing lady you’re referring to is Apo Whang Od. I haven’t heard of any Polynesians visiting her, but many Filipinos have, both from within the Philippines and abroad. Outrigger canoes aren’t an ancestral proto-Austronesian innovation, but rather a malayo-Polynesian one which is a ‘daughter’ branch of the Austronesian family. Malayo-Polynesians basically encompass all the Austronesian languages outside of Taiwan, with proto malayo-Polynesian likely being spoken in the Batanes strait and northern Philippines. It’s here where the outrigger canoe design likely originated.

@@CP0rings33 Thank you: you have filled in knowledge on me that was missing (on me) because I was scrambling, reading whatever I could when possible: anything that lined up with the things my friends taught me. When I went to Asia, I was was asked by an education minister to bring in and show American pedagogical methods & subjects wherever possible. Some local teachers thought / or said/ (or expressed through reticence): “I don’t want to spend time on the cultural and language migrations of black folks, white folks, or other folks. I know you were asked to prepare the students’ language and manners to be decent out abroad, but (I / we ) local teachers do not expect 99% of these students to go abroad at all.” So, I could sense many of the local teachers feeling: “stop teaching about America and Africa: none of these kids are going there.” The students didn’t have that attitude at all, only a bunch of adult staff members. So, I got the idea to show the Seediq Bale movie, because it touches upon many issues regarding colonization & resistance and it takes place on Taiwan. Similar to United States Schools, there isn’t enough history taught about First People, First Nations, but official curriculum does call for *some*, not zero. So, the “people-ing” out of Taiwan theory comes up. At first, it was on one ethnographer’s page, but now I see that exact map everywhere. And I’d WANT to see outrigger canoes on Taiwan’s East Coast, and even though I’d go look in-person, I didn’t see any. Single-hulled canoes in red, black, and white, yes: but not boats with outrigger-design. I can understand [and now must promise myself to be mindful ! ] how some scholars disingenuously hold onto research that’s congruent with what they want to discover while not incorporating information that doesn’t fit with their desired results. So, the dates and directional arrows are maybe, possibly (?) correct on the increasingly popular “out of Taiwan” map, but a critical piece: *making outrigger boats* with careful extra thought (examples: leeward side of trees vs windward side of trees + putting materials in water to see which side naturally wants to go “up” before carving…) I suppose nobody ever told the scholar who started work on that map of any obligation to put “before voyaging canoes” and “after voyaging canoes” on his map/timeline. Or, perhaps the premise could be wrong 🤷‍♀️… (I was under the impression that it was theory, and not accepted fact…I think what you’re telling me is “that came later.” And going to a different island to get tattoo’d: that’s something I read in a magazine way back in 1995, so I’ll trust you on it. Thank you for kindly imparting knowledge: I’ve seen quite a lot of angry comments in comments sections on videos about whom went where at what time. For my own language (Celtic Irish language that existed-and still exists a little-not English) I feel a little saddened that language has been so close to “non-existence” for generations, even with some governmental and private education programs to keep it alive…

@@miahconnell23 all good mate, but yeah although the initial expansion of Austronesian speakers was out of Taiwan, from what I’ve read the outrigger canoes found in much of SEA, the pacific and Madagascar were in innovation likely originating in the northern Philippines/ Batanes strait. Some of these migrants circled back to Taiwan and there have been reports of outrigger canoes in southern Taiwan I believe. d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/47334992/Blench_Bali_PMP-libre.pdf?1468883022=&response-content-disposition=attachment%3B+filename%3DSplitting_up_proto_Malayopolynesian_new.pdf&Expires=1687920769&Signature=S11jehnFgP-5Oq-i4PmbpNSrgclVxXvi72ZGrfPtJToWShmjfREJ~kwd8OxX6JDSmK2EltYJaYty-fzyyDoE~gKu76-h42gr6hTtTlOYCIr2hdFQJm-xJNQGM9TL0e80Z46Yr-MYK-FlGmY9paJ9teNkWeYJYdGyk9qxUfRnZ9f3XBBWdOS61~jHFUD7Bgo~McHu5hdZHtCzVmx73P3HfW8tCH-VOsNn1ogT-~wuVmhyzm3mIkArNuD4G~gTe7aEd6Via-Qa7uC59koHw4EkFqd-g7J-k9Dinc9JRdX1b5uHX2yGI0rZ4Jf8B-doxe82Gf1Dehh7ZlafmXyfOSO~Tg__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA This paper here provides some insights into the expansion.

Could say the same thing about the inuits of greenland or much of native america , being with the culture similarities with turkic siberia . Although completely different languages

It's the other way around. Polynesians, Micronesians and Insular Hesperonesians are not Asians. Only the continental Hesperonesians (those who live in Peninsular Malaysia, Peninsular Thailand, Southern Myanmar, Southern Cambodia and Southern Vietnam) are Asians.

You're all wrong anyway. LOL. "Asian" is not an ethnic identifier. It's geographic, and thus meaningless when talking about how people are related. Austronesians are Asians (Island Southeast Asians, Aboriginal Taiwanese), Oceanians (Micronesians, Polynesians, Islander Melanesians), Africans (Madagascar, Comoros), and Australians (Torres Strait Islanders)

@@AngryKittens Nah, what you refer to as "Island Southeast Asia" is actually "West Oceania" considering the fact that Oceania actually has five subregions.

Well Austronesians are a heterogeneous people who apparently spoke the Austronesian language, they could be Indigenous Taiwanese, Malayo-Polynesians, or other ethnic groups who decided to speak it because of a language shift, and not all of them live in Asia, and not all of them are Asian, if you would assume so, then we all are Africans, since our ancestors originally migrated from Africa.

In prakit , sakit means ill i think. We are out of Australia.

Javanese has the same case too like Tagalog. We have that ma prefix too in our language. In the old days we say sick and fear is "masakit" and "matakut" but now it changed to "lara" and "wedi" and I don't know why it changed so different from the ancient one🤔

@@user-jg8gr6wd4w wow! In Tagalog, matakot is get scared/ be afraid.

Same in Malay we say aku sakit or saya sakit

Interesting. I’m Filipino who speaks Japanese. I recently just learned that the Japanese word for “scary/scared” 怖い kowai can mean “painful” in certain dialects.

geng lima 🖐

Telu sounds similiar to the austronesian word for scrotum/balls,so in India-centric austronesian countries like Indonesia and Malaysia its replaced with tri/triga from sanskrit

@@ihavenojawandimustscream4681 is that telu related to telur (egg)?

in Philippines, 5=lima, 3=tatlo

@@luthfihadiyanfajri4003 only that they sound similar enough.

True but china doesn't want to be completely surrounded and hemped in with no naval access to the open ocean.

@@ANTSEMUT1 Who cares? It is about legacy whose right belongs to, not ambition. SEA nations hate China of its teritoral claim.

I have to check the etymology but I think you may be right it might have some links to wind direction! Misaotra tompoko !

Sia gapake Y

Tongan I am sick-puke au/mahaki au 1-taha 2-ua 3-tolu 4-fa 5-nima 6-ono 7-fitu 8-valu 9-hiva 10-hongofulu

It would be so impressive if “Ciao” and “Saya” are etymologically related… Ciao is shorten of “T'chavo(?)” (your slave). An alternative way of greeting respectfully someone is “salve”, which is almost identical to “slave”…

Filipino = direksyon ng hangin Tagalog = patutunguhan/dako ng hangin. Filipino has tagalog as the basis, but they're different in a way that tagalog doesn't use loan words from english and spanish. E.g. English = dictionary Spanish = diccionario Filipino = diksyunaryo Tagalog = talatinigan/talahulugan

“Me sakit,” not “may.”

@@changkwangoh we also use that but that's more like a slang, at least in Manila-Tagalog. I'm not sure if that's the case for other Tagalog dialects such as what's used in Batangas. Me sakit ako May sakit ako

Seems like that was already happening in east Indonesia, at least based off their modern forms. So maybe they met some people there before going on to Lapita? Also this pattern isn't seen as much in Micronesian land.

I think you put the points right. Also, Austronesian speakers tend to put stress at the second last syllable, this makes the last syllable less heard. Is it possible, too?

Is "vaka" a small boat or "bangka"?

I think further east is sounds much older.

@@mountainrock7682 probably it is Waka. Other than that Ratu and Datu sounds alike plus Dato, Duta, Datok for elderly.

night Kapampangan - bengi

@@ironric2517 In Karo Batak language is Berngi and Toba Batak language is Borngi+n

Tangis in Indonesia mean cry Menangisi, to cry over ___ Menangis, crying And for blood, we use Darah with H in the end, because Dara means pigeon or in old time it refers to virgin girl.

@@ironric2517 in Sundanese wengi in Javanese wengi too

I like the far flung foraging gradual settlement hypothesis and not the single 7 waka settlement event hypothesis.

News in Tagalog is balita

@@jrexx2841 surat=sulat r become l.

Charita is Sanskrit.

Oh nice in Iloko/Ilokano we have the word masarsarita which is word of streets/news. Like "Ana ti masarsarita" which means "What is the news". "Surat" means write in my language and "sarita" means speak or word.

@@solidpas761 Surat is a city in North West India. Surat in Sanskrit means a peaceful tranquil earthly place. KhobSurat in Hindi means lovely or beautiful. Surah in Arabic means letters. In Malay that what Surat mean.

It was mentioned in the video, finish it first before you react on it.

it's because luzon is not limited to one language. same as in mindanao and the island of panay in visayas. It's funny cause you didn't know.

@@hirayamanawari3583 I know there are more than 2 languages in Luzon, but as a Fil-Am, I only come across Pinoys who usually speak either and sometimes Visaya. Sino aya kinka ti nga ng’y baga nga haan ko nga ammo? Maka pakatawa aya??? Haan na’k nga aramiden nga Tanga no sika ti awan ammo na. Ada pay laeng kabagi’ak jai Luzon, sa no mapan ak, ti daduma nga tao, Tagalog wen no Ilocano sao da. Urai no sabali, suruan da ti pa ng sao me.

@@JsnGallardo maybe they could not understand you even you speak ilokano to them coz ilokano has also its own dialects. Like what Tagalog have like Batangueñong Tagalog, Manileñong Tagalog, Bulacueñang Tagalog, Caviteñong Tagalog, Catanduanes na Tagalog, etc., it varies where you from. Ilokano language has it also, from Highlands to lowlands, to northern to southern. It applies to all languages here in the Philippines. And maybe you have a bit of accent when you speak so they couldn't understand you, or maybe you're talking to wrong people that you expected them to speak your language that you know. You know what makes me mad about your comment, it is because you make fun of them, you expect them that they know your language since you are from the same island of Luzon when in fact in Luzon alone, there's a bunch of languages existed from a single island. Luzon is still a big island, when you know the history how people developed their own language then that might be change your views. I'm actually from the mainland PH and I know at least 5 languages here. So, don't make any sh*t about the country.

Tagalog and Kapampangan are just about 2 hours away from each other and mutually unintelligible, what more Ilocano which is way far north.

Maybe you have an accent?

It is Geographically.. But most filipinos consider themselves as Spaniards or even latinos. Its like they're so proud being colonized by Spanish lol

@@piedpiper5687 No, it's just usually rich people and some internet users who boast and claim that they're Spanish. Vast majority really don't care about this stuff.

@@piedpiper5687 literally no one says we are Spanish in the Philippines lol, only the rich kids whose parents are oligarchs say that, they've been oligarchs since the 1800s

@@piedpiper5687 Filipinos that call themselves Spanish is like people from Laos or Vietnam calling themselves French. It's stupid.

@@venividivici2233 Some Filipinos are Spanish wannabes. I feel sad seeing it. Im a Melayu. Not Filipino by the way.

I guessnit depends on how one defines those terms. Sometimes closely related refers to languages where a family can be reasonably proven, while far/distantly related is more about one can't really prove it, but one has hints that they might be related. But yes I agree with you

Because swk mly isnt mly but islamized dayaks. As perception is that when u convert to islam, u become mly

@@rickken6823 Sarawakian Malays are Malays. Linguistically and culturally. Melanau for example are still Melanau despite if they converted to Islam.

A video on the oceanic Micronesian languages would be very interesting, considering yapese isn’t closely related to any Micronesians language and groups closer with the admiralty languages in Papua New Guinea

Arnt they close to Bisayan? Since Philippines is closest. I'd be interested too though. Would love to visit Micronesia.

But you do know that Madagascar used to be separate kingdoms back then before the king Andrianampoinimerina decided to unify the country, don't you? So each kingdom developped its own culture and its own "Malagasy" language. Plus, some linguists consider Malagasy not as a single language, but a constellation of different languages which diverged from a hypothetical single language. That is the reason why in fact none of the ethnicity in Madagascar speak the "authentical" Malagasy language. Even Merina, the basis of official Malagasy is considered to be a "variety" of Malagasy. For example, Sakalava, Merina, Betsimisaraka and Antandroy are considered separate languages by certain linguists due to their different vocabulary, grammar and sound changes. Try to listen to Kibushi (spoken in Mayotte) which is also a Malagasy dialect/language to see that Malagasy is not a single language and that not all varieties Malagasy are mutually intelligible.

@@flavmendrikaja3784 I already know it :)

@@minimani6535 Good if you know it. 😊 But what I meant is that Malagasy has the same problem as Chinese. Some linguists say that Chinese too is not a single language, it is a constellation of variants as diverge as Romance languages, just like Malagasy.

Wait till you learn about the existence of polyglots..

@@xiiaohao3871 I heard of polyglots, but in poly language, I doubt it. Even so, a polyglot has to learn the languages, but the person who claimed to understand all poly languages is implying he just understands all of them without even have to study and learn, which is a complete lie. I think there are more than 20 poly languages. Show me someone that can speak all 20 plus poly languages.

oh wow very cool like malay, even though we live in same (java) island we can't understand each other with sunda and javanese

I love the polynesian language. It flows like the sea.

@A J Could there be a possibility that the Polynesian languages are closest to the original form of Austronesian language? Perhaps many words in original Austronesian languages end in vowels.

@@Emsyaz no

@@Kanal7Indonesia Theres a possibility. Proto Austronesian language is just an attempt to reconstruct the proto language but nobody knows how accurate that is.

@A J it's a joke! get it??? 😂

Muito obrigado, どうもありがとうございました Julio-san! I'm preparing a series on two Australian Aboriginal languages :) And yes there is a possible ancient connection with India but it was probably a very long time ago. Their languages are not related, as far as modern linguists can prove but the phonology is very similar. 謝謝！

I do want to add, Te Reo Māori speakers of NZ find it more difficult understanding Cook Island Māori speakers, even though technically, they are dialects of the same language. This is because the NZ dialects, 1. use old or obsolete words in the common tongue, that might exist only in poetic or liturgic language in most parts of the Cook Islands, and also 2. have strict grammar rules & use different sentence structures compared to the Cook Island dialects. At the same time, a Cook Island Māori speaker is more likely able to converse easily with Tahitian and Hawaiian speakers, as their grammar is almost identical, allowing for some word & pronunciation variations. Itʻs all fascinating stuff (says the language nerd).😄

Lol so hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

Fire also sunog in filipino

Seuneu dalam bahasa Sunda berasal dari kata Sanskrit Sunu. Kata seuneu hanya digunakan oleh dialek Priangan, sedangkan dialek lain menggunakan kata Api. Dalam bahasa Sunda kuno kata Api disebut Apuy.

Lara is Sanskrit word

Fire in filipino is apoy. In my filipino dialect it is sunog. So the trend is as you go down other tribee omit some letters or sounds to make it easier for their tongue. So i guess the filipino text books now should be revised. As we are all taught our ancestors came from indonesia or malaysia but seeing this language trends and dna samples its all in reverse

I think that are loan words

Didn't know the Portuguese influenced Taiwan. I only know of indonesia and later timor, which explains why modern Tetun has a lot of loanwords from Portuguese, as a parallel to the filipinic branch of austronesian having many spanish loanwords

Indonesian/Malay and Northern Philippine languages retained a lot of Proto-Malayo-Polynesian words although Northern Philippine languages still have the traditional Austronesian grammar structure unlike Indo/Malay languages

@@uglybepis3571 Yes, for grammar it would be very different for modern Malay

in the northeastern Luzon language of Ibanag, thank you is mabbalo so there's probably a connection between the three.

A native Hawaiian told me that the Hawaiian language is actually mostly made up and not the true original language. She's actually a real Hawaiian. Not the Filipino or Japanese kine 😂 But she said she is jealous that the rest of Polynesia still have the native language.

In kapampangan, there is a word “mabalos” In ilocano, the word “bales” with a silent e means to retirn the favor

@@fjalfredo I wonder if that has to do with the word *baliw₂, which meant return. Maybe it's a form of ma-baliw₂ ?

In Chamorro, it's "Asaina ma'asi". Asaina is God, and Ma'asi is mercy