Why Charlotte Tilbury & Jonathan Van Ness are getting CANCELLED!? | BEAUTIFUL and BOTHERED | Ep. 61 

I live for Kevin's weekly lipstick reveal. Sometimes it's a nude, sometimes it grunge but it's always FABULOUS ❤

OMG! I just about died when Kevin said "Don't force the fart because it's probably shit!" You both are the best! ❤

The way the Friends cast was so successful was because they stuck together and advocated for the entire core group to stay and earn the same. There were more breakout stars who could have demanded more by themselves, but they chose to use the rising tide to lift all the boats

Even not in the same room, the banter is so natural.

I greeted my chickens the other day with 'hey gurrrrlls'. In Johnny's voice. Without even thinking about it. They have officially entered my subconscious lol 😂😂😂

Tbf Nestlé have been boycotted for years and nothing has changed.

Awww... the "hello kiss" between Johnny and Casey on camera warmed my heart!

"They love it when we fight amongst ourselves." Exactly. Divide and conquer. We're too busy tearing each other down to realize who is actually responsible.

What people don't remember is that the federal government put a cap on box cereal and other foods at one time. Idkwhen these caps were removed but I would say it had to be within the past fifteen years. We as a nation need to come together and fight the government that has destroyed our country and divided our people. We shouldn't be did died over other countries. We should come together and figure this out equally!

I love that he called out James IVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD how that man still online

Church is in people. This week's podcast is paired with gin, cherry syrup and lemonade. It's Mother's Day in the UK and watching this in peace is my present to me.

casey and johnny are the reason i believe in soulmates. and casey and kevin’s boyfriend need to do and episode impersonating their partners or doing a GRWM voiceover on Johnnys channel. love y’all! sending all my love from north texas!! ❤

Also cancel culture needs to leave room for personal growth. People tried to cancel Kevin Hart for something he said in his early 20s. People need to consider if he seems to still hold those values and whether they themselves want to be held to who they were 15 years ago. Most of us grow, learn, become better, fuller people as we age and are exposed to different ideas and opinions.

for those wondering, lot lizards are ladies of the night that ply their trade in truck stops, according to my quick google

I feel like ppl are quick to call out bands and ppl online *because* it seems that other power structures are not listening and can't be changed. Online, you can directly see the impact of your outrage in the form of comments, likes, and reshares, and it's easier to see collective impact on individual ppl and brands. Not to mention that the impact can be swift, where most activism takes a lot of time, planning, and sustained effort. Larger power structures also have an inherent interest in NOT showing when they've been hurt even when collective action works.

The boycott for Kellog's....thank you for addressing this issue. You both make such calm, thoughtful impactful statements with humor. I really appreciate the break from the daily grind!!! 😍

I don’t know if y’all caught it, but Johnnys been out of town and when Casey walks in the door he sees Johnny working. Still. He comes to say hello with a quick kiss stating ‘this is the first time I’ve seen you’ then carries on behind the scene..patiently waiting for his time with Johnny. This is the kind of love we all hope to have. Patient and kind ❤

Totally agree with everything with the cancellation! That’s why I unsubscribed from Mikayla after “mascara gate” because I couldn’t trust her opinion after that. Also unsubscribed from James Charles and was surprised nothing happened there. 😳 But people KEEP following and buying their stuff, so “cancellations” are laughable at this point. 🤦‍♀️ Also agree with Kevin on putting people together who don’t have a built-in rapport because it’s SO awkward! Anytime I see that dynamic, I don’t want to watch because I can even feel it through the screen. 🥴 And TV can show someone so nice when they’re really a 💩 in person. Funny Kevin mentioned Eureka because I had that experience with her … LOVED personality on screen, in person … not so much. 🙄

Ultimately I think /some/ people have their heart in the right place, because those of us advocating for a ceasefire feel like so little is happening on the government side. I agree, until there is full confirmation about misdeeds, we potentially waste energy that could be taken from the actual bad actors and institutions truly doing harm. Sure if rumors are going around it might give me pause on continuing to buying products or supporting an individual until we know either way. The attitude goes into voting, and the people who refuse to vote while terrible anti-lgbtq+, womens health/abortion, etc laws are coming down the pike in more conservative areas and right wing evangelical groups flourish. It's so concerning. Please vote. Vote for national races AND local. It matters. The US has influence on a massive scale in how they support or hold their allies accountable. On a lighter note: Been in and out of Ultas a lot more lately trying new products. Every time I see Charlotte's products at the checkout display, Johnny and Kevin are hovering behind me waiting to slap my wrist if I even think of buying anything. 😂😂

No offense to Bella but.....I am a little tired of people who have boring, neutral, barely any makeup style - releasing makeup. Like we have enough boring makeup 😩😩.

Not me clicking on, seeing two screens and immediately panicking that one of you or a partner had covid! Thank god you’re all healthy 🩷

The show today was one of y’all’s best! That says a lot because I have never seen an episode that I didn’t like. I’m impressed with your analysis on the stuff that really matters. I’m a 53 year old with a degree in psychology/philosophy. It is so refreshing to see members of the younger generation that knows how to think! I know y’all’s parents are so proud!! Y’all always make my day. ❤

Haha😂😂my dad was a truck driver in NY,NJ, & CT in the 80s and 90s (we lived in CT) and would tell my mom wild stories of the lot lizards!! You brought back some very funny memories of my dad, thank you for that. We lost him to cancer in 2008.

I appreciate that you two are willing to get heavy and get serious on this podcast, and not just wave it off with 'we're not going to get into politics'. It makes it feel like you aren't just trying to entertain us but engage with us. In that spirit, I've heard it many times that people will react much more strongly to an- ultimately less important in the grand scheme of things- celebrity or brand they feel has committed a wrong because the parasocial relationship makes it a personal betrayal, instead of just someone in power being shitty. I think thats definitely a huge part of why people are so quick to get so worked up and call for cancellations and boycotts for beauty industry figures, no matter how ineffective it may be. Recently, however, I think there's also a big element of feeling Powerless in the face of the horrors we're witnessing in real time. Collectively we're screaming our voices hoarse about the atrocities and injustice, desperate for something to be done, for someone to Listen, desperate to the point of despair and self destruction, and no one in power seems to hear us. In that powerlessness, many are likely turning to lash out at what they see as an easier and more accessible target because it feels like doing something, *anything*. Brands with #relatable media presences, celebrities, public figures, etc. We can't pretend the president that is dropping expired MREs with faulty parachutes while also writing a blank check for ethnic cleansing is gonna see our angry comments, but maybe, just maybe, Charlotte Tillbury will. She's not, its just going through some underpaid intern, but it feels like it could possibly have a tangible effect as opposed to the blank wall that's our government right now. None of this is to say you guys aren't right, you guys absolutely hit it spot on with the ineffectiveness of these cancel campaigns, like with your James Charles analogy. Along with that we should absolutely wait for confirmation with things like this- I've seen plenty of hate campaigns over misinterpretation, over blowing, gun jumping, and even just imagined from whole cloth transgressions. It's just something I think about a lot right now how badly we all want action and results to the point of redirecting it ineffectually. It's like a pressure cooker with no safety valve, the stress has to give somewhere. To get back to the lighter tone, purchase and pass is just such a wonderful resource. Like is Haus just using the "limited release" to test what were the more popular colors at the cost of range and accessibility for darker skin, and then trying to scalp us after demand was proven? To hell with this, colourpop supershock blush is right there and I'm too broke for shenanigans.

I swear listening to the first segment regarding the “rumor”..it just makes me realize how cancel culture really has to stop. Social media in general as much as I love having it, and it’s helped so many people & done a lot of good, it’s changed how humans interact and treat eachother in general on a gigantic scale. Especially since Covid when so many got addicted to it. People have had to develop such a thick skin in order to survive the hate that’s so easily thrown at them day to day. People are so quick to say negative hateful & derogatory 💩 that they would never say to your face..and others tend to jump on board and pile on…it’s desensitizing the human race 😣

Kevin's teal lipstick application is stunning, but his perfectly coiffed hair is what's really hypnotizing me. ( I know... I'm werid.)

Hubby is a long-haul trucker. I see him 1.5 days per week and we also shake hands as a greeting on his return. There aren't many lot lizards here in Canada, but he's now traveling with our German Shepherd to keep himself safe while he's in his sleeper in The States. The Doodle is home with me, because its all I need in the suburbs.

Such a delight to have a Casey cameo in the episode.💞Johnny and Kevin, you are magic as a team. I know it takes a lot of work to put these videos together (from conception, through recording, editing, to publishing), but I truly would watch you every day. 💝😘

The SHOCK when I saw the thumbnail of Kevin wearing damn near the lip color of my dreams, I'm already dying to find out what it is

'we talked about this with Brittany Broski' you said it so casually but please say she is coming on the podcast! ahhh my faves collide

Not a Charlotte tilbury commercial before this pod😂💜

EHEHEHEHEHEHE THIS IS ALWAYS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY WEEK!!! Im sick and have been waiting for some good drama and entertainment!!

“This isn’t Selling Sunset”. 🤣

Kevin describing Simon Cowell making a boy band made me think of Making The Band and the group O Town. Anyone else remember that?

This was a terrific podcast.. always a fan of Purchase Or Pass.. but your intelligent discussion of the Hadid/VanNess/Charles topic and cancel culture (🙄) was appreciated. You gave the subject a considered and open minded coverage. Thank you. I enjoyed it immensely. Love you two… such a joy.

It's Kelloggs....❤❤❤ I feel in the end it wI'll be the workers who will pay the CEO will be fine. That is what sucks

Casey ❤ What an amazing Sunday bonus! I'm so happy to see Johnny & Kevin. I've been waiting for purchase or pass, gentleman! Happy Sunday to everyone!

The Acai Sky blush is my GO TO blush (❤), and I'm so annoyed it wasn't brought back to make the Haus Labs line more inclusive. I bought the Dragonfruit blush, but it gave me a slightly ashy hue and was almost non-existent on my melinated skin. When I went to try the Lavender Blonde blush (which I was hoping would be a good pink option for those of us with deeper tones), all the displays had been taken down and every Sephora I went to, but no one knew why. It wasn't until a few weeks later that it was announced the line was being discontinued. Such a bummer that I never got the chance to try that shade!!! 😩

Johnny I am shocked you didn't know what a Lot Lizard was !! Kevin that lipstick is chef's kiss Also love how much Casey and Johnny are in love - agree that your SOs should do an episode impersonating you two .

I wish more people listened to you and folks like you about directing the outrage to places where it would really make a difference. I kind of missed the giggles when the two of you randomly play footsie 😂 but still enjoyed the episode. And Kevin, I LOVED the lip this week.

Lovely to see Casey. Rumours are increasingly dangerous. Love the Johnny spin. I love the teal lipstick. Could you let what lipstick and lip liner you used? I would like to get it for my niece.

Last week I was on a Chicago expressway and a Security Detail with flashing lights including 2 Cadillac Escalade SUVs with dark tinted windows blew past everyone driving on the shoulder of the expressway. At the time I thought it was a former President who was in town for an event regarding his Presidental Library but now I suspect it was really Johnny on his way to the airport to fly home from Chicago ❤😉❤️

in love with how well spoken you two are on all these topics. this is the first full episode I've watched, and am instantly a fan!

Kevin holding his mic and tht lip is giving news reporter realness 💅🏾📰✨️

What!?! I came here for light tea spilling and you ended up talking about consumer activism in late stage capitalism? I was not prepared.❤

Also, I worked at American Apparel from 2008-2014 and was legitimately priced high to employ garment workers at a livable wage. I sometimes struggled financially living and working for them in DC, but had pride that the company I worked for cared about the entire process of production being sustainable for every person involved. Aside from the fact that Dov had his issues of course. Different conversation.

Love you guys calling out politicians and capitalism in this episode! Ever consumer needs to direct their concerns at their congressman and senators to see longer term real change. Love you guys ❤

I just had this discussion with a friend.. I don’t know why we as a society put so much energy into a brand instead of our government or the people who are making moves that effect us all on a bigger scale

Johnny, can't wait to see what you are doing with Ulta. I'm excited. 😊

Love seeing you vibe doesn’t change regardless of being in person at the studio or in a Zoom podcast! Thank you for explaining everything about Charlotte Tilbury & General Mills & Jonathon Van Ness! This is a spectacular episode! 🤗💖🤗

You guys need to have your own S.A.G. award. Your award would stand for Smart, Active in human rights and Gay!

The reviews on those spf tints are hilarious. I lost count how many times I read a little goes a long way! It's spf, you need a decent amount of product or it's pointless 😅

How cute is Casey’s little Superman curl 😍

So excited for this episode! Love you guys so much!

Biggest fan here from Chicago! Hope you enjoyed your time here! ❤ Love how Kevin and I have Gaga on our walls 😂

You just found that out? Maybe I should question why I know what a lot lizard is. . .

Finally ...I live for this podcast!!

I’ve been eagerly waiting for this!! You both brighten my day so much!!

I am very intrigued by that UD foundation. And the Ilia comes in a close second.

Good afternoon to my two favorite gorgeous youtube influenceers- truth tellers I love you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Happy Sunday bbs! Let’s gooo 🤸🏻‍♀️

The Original Queer Eye was revolutionary!

Just noticed that Kevin's hair is 🔥

I’ve never been this early! Kevin’s lipstick is 🔥

It's 7am in Australia and here i am. Coffee in hand!

My Sunday ritual!!! 💜 After I close down my shop, I’m rushing to my vehicle, hooking my phone up & blasting it on the way home, or rushing home, slapping on my pjs, get comfy & start watching!! (And laughing my ass off!) During the first break, I share with two of my friends, “the boys are on!!!” Love & thoroughly enjoy you both!!

Kevin brought up an issue I dealt with all the time and recently found a solution for! The lightest shade ranges in foundations always go yellow on me. I need cool tones! I recently tried adding in the LA girl pro conceal in the shade lilac and that super white-based purple, by some color theory magic, is what’s getting my foundations to finally match. Pink+blue make purple, so it makes sense! Thought I’d share for anyone else having this problem!

I can't help feeling like "cancellations" for brands has become the new way to boost Notoriety. Like the old saying "no press is bad press"- cancellation is the new version of bad press since the younger generations don't consume regular old "press" & get their news via social media. Idk maybe I'm way off but think about it, now everyone is talking about CT & I guarantee you (like Kevin said) it's definitely not going to harm the brand.

I just adore you both! Kevin, I *completely* agree with you about Supergoop! When they first came out, I tired their liquid sunscreen. First of all, the sprayer didn't even work 99% of the time, and when it did, the product did not sink I to skin at all!

Love you guys to the moon and back and I feel like you always hit the nail on the head with undertones and color theory, but I had to pause at the Supergoop SPF 50 foundation shade range part just to say: the lightest shades in color ranges *not* running so pink anymore is a huge win for us pale people out here. Those gray/neutral shades are so much more flattering and accurate than the old strawberry vanilla ice cream nonsense the industry used to feed us. Fair does not equate to pink! Those gray undertones seem like they’d serve casket ready, but I think they lend themselves to suiting unsaturated, fair skin tones much more.

Charlotte Tillbury is doing just fine. She has the bank roll to back a female driver in the F1 Academy, pay for her logo's ALLLLLL over HER car, Lola is a gem. F1 has more money than ANYTHING in the beauty space. Fuck James Charles. Period.

Such timing! I was just watching queer eye with a friend and we were like 'whats up with Jonathan? '

It’s been a while since I’ve watched but I don’t remember JVN ever doing any hair for POC with textured hair. I think it’s interesting for someone of their magnitude (I’m assuming here) to not educate themselves on textured hair to be competent to work on all the different hair types. As a palm colored person this always stood out to me

How Noone is accountable anymore is ridiculous

Excited for a new episode ❤

Just swatched the Haus Labs blushes in store today! Formula feels identical but the new shades literally look like bronzers 😂 And my first thought was “where is the berry color?” My second was “were they always this small?”

I am outraged by the tremendous loss of life on the Palestinian side and Israeli side. So heartbreaking. Innocent civilians should never die in the name of warfare.

16:17 this is a fantastic conversation and I love you both so much. Thank you again for calling the victimization of children A CRIME!!! Call a spade a spade!!! Love u two ❤

OMG - collaboration with Ulta? Congrats… ❤

I’m so excited by the ilia and UD skin tints for a thin summer foundation, please save me from the fenty eaze drops! 😭 love yall btw been here since the beginning ;)

55:50 Purchase? ⛔️ Pass? ⛔️ Proceed With Caution. ✅

OMG THE CHEMISTRY ❤❤ ❤ Another fab episode. SLAY🎉

Love you both 😍 Im with you, I wish people put more energy into protesting where it matters. Love to see you try the Urban Decay but also super interested in more affordable releases, this momma struggling with justifying a £50 purchase on foundation these days!

Mesmerized by Kevin's mouth in this episode😍Anyone besides me pause when Kevin leaned over to look at his collection?

Hot take! Some of us already eat a bowl of cereal because it's the most cost effective meal for us due to the price of groceries. I literally do the math of how many meals/price of the food item that I'm buying and if it is cost effective enough for me to buy.

I hope the UD foundation isnt just liquid with overstock Velvitizer in it.😅

I was holding my breath through the entire first part of this episode. I was really worried that you would come out in support of Israel. But your take was well thought out and well said. I don’t know if I agree, but definitely well said.

Is it strange that when I see that you guys have posted, I literally say "Let's Do This"!!!! LOLOL. Love y'all!!

😂 I was watching another video at 1.5 x speed and thought oops, I can’t listen to you guys sped up. You’re already sped up. Love 💕 that you guys keep it moving cuz I’m a New Yorker! 💋💋

I’ve noticed that with every episode I watch, I’ve started to integrate more and more of y’all’s vocabulary into my every day conversations. 😂 I work as an esthetician/waxer and have always had a love for makeup and skincare, and I look forward to your episodes every week! Thank you both for giving those of us in the industry and others a place to come and learn and laugh and feel seen. ❤ love you both so much!

I missed you guys Thursday. Hope you're both doing well and I'm always excited for my Sunday ritual of a new beautiful and bothered. 🧡🩷

OG Fab 5 were the only Fab 5, for real.

I think the haus labs blush is now talc free so there would be a formula difference. I was hoping you two would review them but if you think the REM blushes are great, I might just pick those up. ❤❤❤

Hi, Casey!

Happy.Mothering Sunday to me!! The gift of watching you two! Thank you! 😝✌🏼💜💜💜🇬🇧

Kevin's lip colour is very Sims4, the shade was in Get to Work and while horrible on Sims, looks great on Kevin.

Heyyyyy! You were near my neck of the woods! Bought 2 small pallets from ColourPop, my first from them, and have LOVED playing with them. Love you both!

The Urban Decay Foundation is giving Danessa Myricks skin tint. I love to try any and all waterproof makeup bc I’m a schvetty gal. So I’m definitely interested in giving this a try and possibly a review from you two.

So proud of you both for using your voices and platform for the betterment of an opinion!!! Well done. Chefs 💋!!!! Egos also ruin everything. Keep it in check people. Really enjoyed this episode although it took a different turn today. I am here for it. I also totally agree people should look at the role models they are and pressure they have on them for representing different groups. ❤ it comes with the job. And Kevin's saying about the fart was priceless 🤣. Nailed it good job. Love ya both. ❤

Tuning in from Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 loving the vibe between Johnny and Kevin🎉🎉🎉