As an eastern whitetail hunter that spends entirely too much time up a tree, the detachable quiver is best for my situation. If I ever decide to hunt out west, may change my mind.
@@Cooldibs too much weight on the right side of the bow. I would need to add more weight to my back bark for balance. Also, the profile of the bow is less without the quiver. Not as affected by wind.
@@Cooldibs, for me, I don't shoot with it on when I am practicing, I am a short guy with a short draw length, plus as MFJJ points out, they are noisy when you are trying to be quiet. Plus, with it off, that is less surface area to catch the attention of something you are shooting at from a tree stand or a saddle.
I disagree with your opinion on this when it comes to Midwest whitetail hunters. Most of us are in a saddle, blind, or a tree stand and we can simply take the detachable quiver off our bow, hang/place it right near us, and then go on about our hunt. I'd personally find it annoying to constantly have a quiver attached to my bow in some form, especially while practice shooting. For western spot-and-stalk style hunters I can completely understand why a two piece quiver would make way more sense for you. It's all about the application...
Eastern whitetail hunter here and a saddle hunter. I absolutely love shooting with my quiver on. The extra weight helps keep my bow steady. I run a Hoyt 2 point attachment permanent quiver. Also I’ve been in a situation to where I needed that second arrow immediately and I was able to pull a second arrow in seconds instead of fumbling through a bag or reaching for my quiver attached to the tree.
All good points, Big Guy. And here are my counter points for why I use a detachable quiver. My, and most, arrows have highly visible fletching on the ends so we can see the arrow in flight and confirm a good or a marginal hit. So the ONE thing that isn’t camouflaged in my stand are the arrows. By keeping these highly visible colors attached to my bow, they now are forced to move at the one time the animal is closest, which is as I draw my bow. That may or may not matter to some, but I don’t like that idea. Detaching my quiver once I’m in my tree also makes the bow lighter to the tune of the weight of an arrow x 5, and weight of the quiver, which is a pretty hefty amount, easily over a pound of extra side weight. Even pulled into the centerline as close as they are today (Hoyt and Mathews), weight is still weight. So I just practice without my quiver all year round, and then I don’t feel the need for a side bar to off-set a quiver, and the whole rig is lighter. Important to me as a western hunter with long hikes into my tree or glassing point. I do acknowledge a disadvantage in a rapidly evolving calling scenario, but guess what? I hunt public land. I don’t live in the world of private, call-friendly elk. There is a saying in public land hunting: “elk always respond to your call.” The joke is, it’s usually by shutting up and walking away from you! I’ve definitely been forced to become more of an ambush hunter, so the drawback of rarely having arrows on my bow is what I accept, and I do practice with a full quiver, and no quiver, before the season, just so I’m ready. But that’s why I use detachable. And if I forget my QUIVER in a tree, I should really take up bowling, because clearly, this whole bow hunting thing is just too hard for me!😂 Keep up the great work, you’re accomplishing good things.
I do not run a stabilizer because my all aluminum Fuse detachable quiver balances my Halon 32 perfectly. I always leave it mounted with three arrows in it like I hunt with. I’m a still hunter and quit hunting in a tree stand four years ago and I have gotten at least one deer every year since. My quiver is dead silent And I have really enjoyed shooting without stabilizers once I started shooting incredibly accurate with this bow. I’ve had about 10 bows since 2001 starting with a Matthews SQ2. Had the Halon about eight years and I still don’t think I’ll switch to a new bow. I don’t think I could get any more accurate than the setup I have now. Great info as usual Josh
Yes MFJJ you need an energy drink! Pursuit energy has got you covered man!! I like your videos and the fact based reasons you give for why things are or aren't good. Keep the great videos coming.
Big fan of my quivilizer. Reduces weight, adds balance and runs my arrows on the inside of the bow keeping them out of the brush when hiking. If I were to run a side quiver, definitely would be a 2 piece with the offset front bar
I run a hip quiver adapter. Cheap plastic that holds the weight to my belt really well. I angle the arrows back like a field quiver, and glued it down in place. A fantastic low cost solution
Agree with your analysis on a 1 piece quiver. But as you have said in the past on a shorter bow they tilt or top heavy is even worse then a longer axle to axle bow when mounting a quiver.
The one exception is Mathews’ detach quiver made for the V3X and newer. If it were any closer to the riser it would touch sight mount. I don’t use the Bridgelock system.
I use a one piece Apex removable. With an HHA mounting plate. Been great and tough, sets in close. Removing makes it easier to pack away without bending fletching. I don' run a stabilizer bar out front that's always in the way, way more than my quiver. I run a small 6" rubberized stabilizer/dampener mounted on a two way adjustable Avalon tec x, very low on the left facing rearward and slightly out to clear the limbs and balance the bow. It deadens sound, makes the bow compact walking in the brush, where it faces rear it never catches any brush and the bow is in perfect balance front to rear, side to side. Pop the quiver, put the bow in the bag, quiver in the pocket built for it. Dampener stays on.
I keep my quiver on while shooting my bow. I have that exact cheap, one piece quiver from Bear that you started with. My bow doesn't seem to be too far out of balance. And I only put 4 arrows in my quiver. So, when I knock an arrow, there is a spot in between each arrow. Eliminates the vibration noise because the arrows never touch. And, if I need more than 4 arrows, I'm doing something seriously wrong, or I have too many deer on the ground for one day.
Being a midwestern whitetail for years and years I always used an Alpine that when I got in my stand I could take off and attach to the tree. All these years latter I still have them and they work great. I always sighted in with it off so when i was in my stand with the quiver off we were good to go.....and I'm Out! lol
I like taking it off for tree stand hunting. If it's hanging from a hook on the tree the quiver won't rub against the tree and if I'm in a hang on stand I like to sit the bow on my lap around prime time. For hunting on the move I'd want a low pro fixed.
I have a Hoyt RX3 ultra with a two piece Hoyt quiver on it. 100% agree with MFJJ on this as yesterday I was able to get two arrows into a big whitetail buck. Wouldn’t have been possible with my quiver not attached to my bow.
I like detaching mine . But i am a Midwest treestand hunter only. That being said, I never ran side bar until this winter indoor league. I might give the 2 piece a try
I have the Mathew’s one piece quiver but it’s the longer version that connects at two points and I leave it on and love it! I used to take my quiver off and hang it lol. Is that one a great option in your opinion?
All my Hunt's are spot and stork and I come to the same conclusion 6 month into my hunting life, I used to put a sock over the fletched arrows to keep them quite and the balance was so off.
Given you history with Dan Evans, I would be very curious to hear your opinion on the Option Quivalizer + Cache Bar. It would seemingly solve the issue of the left/right lean from having a vertical quiver whilst retaining benefits of a long stabilizer and the quick detatch means you can take off and move with better agility when environment calls for it. Biggest con I've heard for it is wind. What are your thoughts MFJJ?
Now do you think the same for a guy hunting whitetail in the Midwest? I leave my quiver on any way but I'm just wondering. Also where can I get the deal the offsets your stabilizer? My bows pretty balanced as is but maybe that would help?
You’re probably right. I leave my detachable quiver on the bow. The vibration on mine is even worse since the quiver isn’t made for the diameter of my arrows. They only stay in because of the half out inserts. I just don’t have unlimited money to just drop $200 on every little thing that will make my setup slightly better. Sometimes you have to prioritize abs just put meat in the freezer.
Whats everyones opinion about a tight spot quiver making contact with cable driven rest (cable) when pushed in all the way? Do you guys allow it to touch, or bring it out a little so theres no cintact with the cable?
I would want to get a quiver like that if I was going out west, but in a tree stand I can always take of my quiver and hang it with the rest of my gear
I disagree with MFJJ on this one. Some very valid points, but his perspective is very regional. Midwest and eastern hunters spend most of our time hunting in trees, where it is easy to dismount the quiver and hang next to your pack. Even when I was in New Zealand I removed my quiver and took my shots.
I have a question maybe you can help I can shoot my index release all day and shoot it very well I tried to use my thumb release and I consistently hit left no matter what I do and group good to the left any reasons why could it be draw length thank you
Conquest archery (Darton) just came out with a fantastic 2 piece quiver with grippers top and bottom and large and small diameter arrow grippers. Built very similar to that hoyt quiver, but it's an even nicer quiver than what the Hoyt is.
I agree on a spot and stalk still, but what about the guys like myself who only use a quiver for holding the arrows too and from the woods and once I get in my stand I take it off and hang it
I have the one piece Mathews Web HD quiver on my bow and I hate it It’s noisy and the arrows touch the mounting knob on my sight that makes it even noisier
I’m from PA and most of us hunt from some type of stand, I don’t hunt out West so I disagree. Public lands in PA the quiver full of arrows catch on branches, easier to remove the quiver and have it out of the way. I can see some knuckle heads forgetting the quiver if you sit it down but you sorta have to be pretty excited or highly stupid to forget a quiver in the woods. Lol😂 I definitely agree with you that spot and stalk the attached quiver is by far a superior option.
Got an Easton Arsenal 2 piece quiver for that very reason. I cut apart an Alpine one piece detachable and made it into a 2 piece quiver using the spare mounting adapters from the Easton Arsenal. I don't think Elite makes a 2 piece anymore. Don't think Easton makes the arsenal anymore either. I want the Tightspot 2 piece one. I thought the one piece ones were great for treestand hunters so they could remove them easily and hang quiver in a convenient location. I'm hunting on foot and want my arrows with me. It really should only take one arrow...
I mount my quiver upside down simply cause the bow balances better that way. Your arrow weight is FOC so why up in the air above the sight of the bow?????
I don’t disagree for western hunting. However, us treestand and ground blind hunters sometimes like to be able to pop the quiver off and just hang it on the tree next to our pack. Less overall width to worry about bumping into something moving around the tree for a shot. That being said, if there wasn’t a $150 difference between a lot of detachable quivers and the two piece Mathews, I would probably have the 2 piece on mine full time 😂. So maybe I’m just justifying being cheap.
I just wish Prime made a two-piece quiver! I have the Mathews Q-Lite on my Mathews and I love it! I can't find a 2pc quiver for Prime to save my life!😂
I disliked 2 piece quivers till I bought the Mathews detachable Lo-Pro Quiver when I bought the V3X. THAT quiver supports the arrow VERY far apart. Is super ridgid and come off in a second. Gold standard for all quivers IMO.
@@JoshSmith-md8cd what broadhead? Basically you're not "broadhead" tuned as opposed to bow tuned. But if you search through MFJJ's videos he's got a whole video dedicated to that because literally there's not necessarily one answer, it could be a bunch of little things giving you somewhat of a big problem.
Two piece Quivers and side bars, suck for bow hunting. I would much rather have the option to take my quiver off then add more stuff to balance the bow also most of us use the same bow to target practice that we do the hunt with and it’s nice to have your arrows that’s why most of your videos you never have your air attached either
There are way too few choices in the market space for good 2 piece non-detachable quivers. The industry needs to step up on this aspect, or at least each major manufacturer needs to step up and offer a great non-detachable 2 piece. Bowtech? Prime? Come on Bowtech and Prime! SS34 easily the best bow this year, but no good 2-piece quiver option because they don't want to cannibalize their garbage tight spot 2 piece.
Finally someone said it. I never understood why people are on and off and on and off with the quivers. It's literally there so you can get another arrow quickly, why hang it on the backside of the tree or leave it with your bag on a stalk? The TS Pivot has been very good as an aftermarket option.
I vehemently disagree his opinion for once. I saddle hunt, and the first thing I do when I get up in the tree is take off my quiver. Also, I have a Tightspot, and I’ve never noticed any sound taking it off. When you’re up in a tree on public land, the last thing you want is another thing sticking off of your bow to catch on a limb or scrape bark. Maybe they do suck for western hunting, but a detachable quiver is almost essential for saddle hunting in the sticks like I do.
I have never shot a deer with a quiver on my bow in the past 36 seasons, & I never will in the future. Quiver comes off before my release is even put on. You can think whatever you want, but I WANT a one piece quiver that is easy to remove. I would NEVER purchase what you suggest, The BEST way to deal with quiver concerns is to remove it. I don't practice with it or hunt with it. You can think whatever, but I know exactly what I like in a quiver.
