Why did Columbus think hiring Babcock was a good idea? - OverDrive | Part 1 | Sep 18th 2023 

20:27 is what you clicked for.

Thanks for the upload

Well said guys. Thanks for speaking out about Baber.

"The Line" was...finally...drawn with the Chicago sexual assault scandal, as far as a coach's behavior goes. Coaches are now under the microscope as never before. How much do you want to bet that Babcock was really trying to figure out if any of his players are gay? In any case, Babcock's problem is narcissism. This is classic manipulative NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) behavior, especially the inability to admit wrongdoing. The point is to gain insight into what his guys are into off the ice and what their personal life looks like, so as to hold it against them later on. It's part of the scam the NPD runs.

It's strange and weird because Babcock is strange and weird

The more time Ryan Reaves is on the ice, the better chance the other team has to win.

Love how O-dog just says it like it is

The Spezza thing was so amazingly asshole-ish. After 2008 in Detroit, he seemed to do a lot more of this just stupid shit. Modano not playing, calling Commie to play in DET and then scratching him more often than not, being such a dick that Filppula left, then wanting them to sign Weiss who got hurt and then once he was healthy playing him at first but then giving him less and less time and then scratching him, signing Tootoo and then not playing him, wanting Dan Cleary back when he was pretty much in Philly, telling Holland to not put Jurco in Grand Rapids cause he'd play him...and then he didn't. So then Jurco couldn't be sent down anymore and instead of playing top 6 minutes in the AHL was playing at best 4th line minutes in Detroit. He knew he had this power and held it over people and the Wings still wanted to keep him knowing all of this.

I say when you look at the team he inherited in Detroit and won 1 cup then look at the talent laden olympic teams, is he that great a coach or was he at the right place at the right time

Nice chat boys. Well done👏👏👏

O-Dog is absolutely right. Babcock was hoping to find something to hold over the players

Marty Walsh former US Secretary of Labor & Ron Hainsey boots on ground looking out for the boys.

why isnt Jeff in studio?

In regards to Babcock hes looking at their phone to see who they are in contact with and if shit is being talked and I agree with O ...he wanted leverage

Peters can kiss his chance to get back to the NHL now lol

Why did Toronto think hiring Babcock was a good idea?

Do these guys not know what happened to Franzen or are they just ignoring it?

There is something wrong with the guy -with what was on the line for him - that he could not do something like this

Time stamps

Jeff says it like it is, MB was playing psychological mind games again

It's hard to intimidate sitting on the beach or in the press box, the 2 places Reaves will be sitting

Jesus, can you guys stop talking over each other. Tough to listen to.

i think O-Dog is correct, Babcock was looking thru their phones looking for something to hold against that player, maybe theres a fun pic of you puking off your balcony after a backyard BBQ, and Babcock sends the file to his computer via that apple app , then blows it up and has it made into a cardboard cutout and places it at the players entrance so all the players can see.. then calls him out for our for whatever reason Babcock wants it to be, you're irresponsible, whatever...how bout you just shake your players hand and say "nice to meet you, see ya at practice" Babcock is a supposed advocaat for mental health? , gimme a f'n break..all Babcock does is screw with players heads, how close do you think Franzen was from hurting himself, look it up. Good Riddance.

Babcock ruined the Wings. They would have won in 2008 with Bizz as coach. Look at how many players just left... suddenly, Zetterburg, Datsyuk, Brad Stuart, Brian Rafalski, etc. Babcock only coaches built teams. He is the most overrated coach in the NHL.

Hey, old guys, put some timestamps in here, eh.

I'll bet the Patriots win another Super Bowl before the Leafs win another Cup.

He"ll play in the offs I guarantee it ...and depending on the situation might just be exactly what they've needed

I can't wait to hear O-Dog lay into this one

The only good thing is that Babcock finally has the reputation he deserves. He should have had it before, but now it's in stone.

This doesn't happen every day - nor should you expect that - but this is why these guys are the best there is for this type of commentary and analysis. They had all cylinders firing in this segment. It is a remarkable story. Babcock won a cup, two gold medals, a world championship ... he was the most decorated, revered, respected coach in hockey. Everybody knew he was tough (little did we all know), but he won everywhere he went. To see this is tragic, disturbing and righteous all at the same time. For those who say he's done for the Hall ... you may be right, but what would you say about Quenneville? Three cups in five years ... sounds like Hall of Fame territory to me. He was badly damaged by that as it was arguably an even more disturbing situation but I think the damage to JQ is softening. Maybe we shouldn't be judging Babcock in the heat of the moment. People may look at it differently in 5 years.

TK isn’t fighting Reaves that’s what Deslaurier or Seeler will do.

It was Nick Shore

Harold Ballard gave lots of money to children’s charities. There is a doc on Tubi that gives a different perspective on the man.

The Rangers thought Reaves would make a difference….BIG disappointment, you have to be able to skate!

Heys is wrong, If Reeves was on that team last year, Gudas would have had enough respect not to yell in Wolls face. Thats been the problem for years, know one feared and respected the leafs, you never seen that happen with any other team that was chasing a title.

A guy can be a hard ass coach but a good guy.

So...every team just has ONE Reeves-type players on their team and no one will ever do anything out of line...? Lol

babcock talk starts 20:10 god bless

Still gonna downplay this?

All you need to do is to look at a picture of Babcock and realize he's not worth hiring.

Right on O Dog!

Is this just a hockey problem, or do all leagues turn a blind eye to abusive behaviour?

Kevin Ballard

8 sheets for Babs and never coached a game.

Mike Babcock looks like a Groper Fish

Bellichik has always had the challenge flag in his sock lol this isn't new it's pretty much public knowledge but you're hockey guys so you get a pass 😂

mike badcock = david miscavige.. everyone who watched that scientology documentary knows what im talking about

Boys are great, but football is a bore. Hockey has returned!

Babcock had all those great Detroit teams and only one 1 cup. Is he maybe the most overrated coach in NHL history?

ROBE HAYES

Lol Jeff eats vegetables and fruits? Must be for his wife.

I doubt this story has received any attention in America, especially with football back.

odog looks so great after he became a vegan

Cozens & Marner are homies - is was a troll tweet.

Reaves is tough and slow and he's 36 years old!!!! These 3 blind mice are acting like Reaves is the guy to turn things around LOL. Every year its the same garbage

Good Idea? This how all pro teams think. They just recycle the same coaches over and over

Because he's basically the best coach ever. So good he even had 3 winning seasons in the 8 1/4 seasons he coached without Nik Lidstom.

Because of this idiot hard nose coaches will have to be careful such as torts of the flyers and I’m sure they are all aware of this because all it takes is one or two players start complaining and then the coach is going to be scrutinized

I wonder if Babcock went in to work and just decided he's got enough money and he changed his mind on wanting to coach. Maybe it was self sabotage.

Because it was a good idea to give that group one more shot at contention before they shop all of the players and go into a full rebuild. Those morons did this whole organization and league a huge injustice with their locker room gossip. Now a whole bunch of folks are going to lose their livelihoods because of these classless idiots and their BS. Gravity is about to pull those dudes back to earth though.

Has any podcast tried inviting Babcock on to defend himself and share his side of things? I get he has a bad reputation but this felt like a distasteful pile on. I can't imagine being a relative or friend of Babs and hearing everyone in the country tear him down like this. Even if he is a jerk, he's had a hall of fame career. In such a difficult industry it's not something to discredit at all, if there were some Olympics or Cup reunion he should be there. Babcock didn't cover up rape like Quenneville did, which DOES warrant a permanent exile from everything.

I dont care about babcock but do you have him dead to rights on this? I don't think so. The reporting on this situation has been a mess. Last time we heard anything concrete it was Jenner saying all good nothing to see here.. so what are the facts

O'Neill loves to froth at the mouth like a rabid dog, but the fact is that not everybody is of the same opinion. Patrick Marleau for example defended Babcock and said he liked the photo sharing with Babs when he was part of it. This seems to be the toughest subject for a few ex-players and Toronto fans, who are the worst fans in the league anyway. Sure, the Marner business was absolutely underhanded, but photo sharing of families is not in the same league. If he however did take somebody's phone and then scroll (which there's no corroborated evidence of), that would be absolutely wrong.

Much ado about nothing