Why did Latin and Gregorian Chant disappear? 

I remember singing in the 'folk group' in the Church and thought it was great. I went to Mass every Sunday without fail. Then they introduced the Holy Eucharist on the hand and i was horrified and could not understand how anyone would feel it was ok to handle Christ in such a manner. I do believe it was the beginning of my turning away from the New Mass. Then they introduced communal confession at the Altar and again i could not understand how people could confess their sins honestly when they would think others might hear what they are saying. Again i was horrified. Thankfully that practice did not last very long. The damage was done and i eventually stopped going to Mass altogether. It broke my heart as i was left in limbo. It was one time that i asked Christ to bring me back to him and the Mass but that i could not go to the New Mass as i felt it did not show the respect to him that it should. I remember being on my Computer one day and i came across the Latin Mass and i said to myself that i remembered that when i was a child. I found out where there was a latin Mass in my Community and i went One Sunday Morning. I walked in to the Church and my heart jumped in my body. I was very emotional and i saw that they did confession and i went in to the confessional. I had not gotten confession in so long and i was overwhelmed and i cried while in there. (I think the Priest thought i was mad). I took part in the Latin Mass that day and every Sunday following that. I had to learn everything again but the Gregorian Chant it is a tonic for the Soul. I thank God for showing me the way to what i believe he also Loves. As i said in my previous post about the Dominican Mass, if they had changed the Latin Mass to how the Dominicans are saying the Mass now, I believe people would not have run away. I don't go to an SSPX Mass, i go to a parish Church where the Bishop allows the Latin Mass to be retained. Viva Christo Rey

So basically Paul VI in 1969 was like: "This is a terrible thing to do, but we're gonna do it anyway". It really is hard to understand.

Yes. My family left the Church in 1968 to become “nones.” The new Iconoclasm was planned. The Novus Ordo Bishops themselves began destroying high altars and building stages with free standing tables, moved tabernacles from the central place of worship to side tables or even to other rooms, tore out beautiful carved wooden confessionals and put in confessions in coat closets, ripped out communion rails, painted over sacred wall art and moved statues to the basement. Post V2 church architecture lost all Catholic identity for drab, empty protestanized buildings. These people are nuts. In my NH parish the high altar was sold and moved to a local Santa’s Village as a gnome attraction. Sickening.

Gregorian chant is zero cringe. Embrace tradition people. You know you crave it in this day and age.

2002/2011 GIRM, no. 41: "The main place should be given, all things being equal, to Gregorian chant, as being proper to the Roman Liturgy."

I attend to Latin Mass with Gregorian chant in Novus Ordo every sunday. That is possible in every parish. I love it.

Suddenly, the New Malls opened on Sunday’s and if you wanted to keep your job you had to work Sunday’s. Then within a year or so EVERY business of the service industry was open on Sunday’s If you were a student or not in a trade, you worked the retail and service areas. You never made over minimum wage anyway unless you could get gratuity; you were stuck. It was a great way to be sure the youth and marginalized were no longer supported by the Church because they couldn’t go or no longer included in the Church. Then of course there was the Church who did not help the poor and marginalized any longer After 1970’s.

Just another case study in how fascinatingly complex the story of the reform of the Roman Liturgy is. Anyone who tries to whittle it down to a quick, simple, and straightforward narrative (regardless of whether their position on the Novus Ordo and the Council are positive or negative) are doing a disservice.

Wondering why such a video has only 102 views 😢 Kindly everyone share these kinda videos far and wide. AMDG!

Look at it like this: God’s making us go through a chastisement to rally us to UNITY and correct the chaos we are in now. Do not despair!

I normally go to the Latin Mass but i went to my local Church one Sunday run by the Dominicans and was very surprised at how they had brought the Mass back as much as possible to the Latin Mass but using the Vernacular. The Priests do the Gregorian chant throughout and use the incense as in the Latin Mass. No hand shaking and the Creed is sung in Latin and more and more people who attend are kneeling during the Creed as is in the Latin Mass. It is a joy to see and also how both can be used while remaining solemn. People come from everywhere to attend this Mass and i have to thank the Dominicans for their bravery in introducing what should have been originally

I was listening to RU-vid content creator The Religious Hippy. She played a snippet of chant in one of her videos, and unlike the majority of the awful music at every NO mass I've been to, it was enjoyable.

How did Catholics come to reject their identity, replacing it with “On Eagles Wings?”

Took into the early seventies in Philadelphia PA

Idea for next episode: Connect audience with places where they can actively speak Latin outside of mass: Nove Latina: the future of Europe, Academia Latinitati Fovendae, Conventiculum Latinum, find some yourself (Latin speaking societies, etc.). Make a list, try to reach out and get them on your podcast.

Jesus rules.

The NO should never have lasted this long. But Now all the beauty and sacrifice of the workman that did it was torn out and is lost to us. But simpler craftsmanship is possible our NO parish has embellished a white brick gymnasium, year by year with meager$ and it is not bad. It’s almost time for us who grew up without the TLM to never have remembered It before that. I’m a 1953 / 70 year old, but I do remember it. My first Holy Communion was TLM, then my Confirmation was NO. In between is a muddle-mess to me. I remember being told to pray, and stop fidgeting. After I graduated University in the early 1970’s , I traveled with my career in Europe till the 1990’s and could always find a TLM Mass except in England. Everywhere else the churches had been brought back to splendor after the war they looked untouched. They still had the craftsman to restore everything. I remember Nuremberg,Bamberg, Selb, Bohn had remarkable churches. In France and Italy also. Some group was working hard to restore them all. The USA is the place that never had a really long list of Traditional Churches to see. They were mostly modern after WWI even. Austere Corbusier-type and not as well made. I hope they Re-consecrate Notre Dame with the most grand TLM High Mass with processions before and after and make a worldwide grand event of it. A whole multifaceted documentary of its rebirth and renewal in The Traditional Rite.

As a cardinal, Giovanni Montini had much weakness in his character. No surprise. Meanwhile fleshly pleasure without responsibility, destruction of life, evil expression in all the arts, rebellion for its own sake---were glorified.

How? The senior pastors of the Church decided it must be so (admittedly rather peremptorily). Why? Because they, in their own wisdom, and enlightened by their own preferred perspectives, said that it would make it easier to witness the Faith to those now long-ago 'times' (.. via their new theological understanding of their faith, btw, not quite the same Faith as held, doctrinally and pastorally, theretofore). Wherefore .. i.e. in consequence .. we were and are, and likely shall remain, puzzled - and are left with a .. (?) In short, we were all sold a bit of a pup in place of a watchdog. And that pup has not exactly matured well, though we are told - by today's senior pastors - we must just put up with it, and rejoice in making a mess (for someone else to clear up, naturally). Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek. God bless. ;o) N.B. None of which invalidates or diminishes the New Order of the Mass - as the Holy Mass approved for us in the Latin-less Latin Rites of the Roman Communion (it does that itself at the hands of its merrier ministers, and far too often - licitly or illicity, cf 'Gestis verbisque', et al).

So JP II, traveled trying to unite and inspire the WORLD, but left the Curia in place to stand alone completely.

I hate to be the pessimist, but it doesn’t matter how many TLM training videos you produce and how many priests are trained if their bishops won’t allow them to celebrate it!!!

It does not fit with the Novus Ordo. Unfortunately, the Novus Bogus has been imposed on us.

Why? Why? Did not the church give lessons in Latin along with kindergarteners through 12th graders as part of the curriculum along with Catechism and going to mass??? It would have made entering Holy Orders a shoe -in after that for cleric’s. Duh!!!

Very unhappy with all the changes in 1964 Vatican 2

I wonder if they were slipping Paul VI drugs. Some of his remarks sound completely schizophrenic. Or else he was trying to make himself sound like a victim while he was actually the one destroying things

Long story short here, Bugnini is the TWO-headed serpent (w/ TWO DOUBLE-FORKED tongues) who played 'the game' BOTH WAYS! Those Novus Ordo attendees will continue to say that the New Mass is 'valid'. Those Old Mass trads, like me, will continue to stick to tradition.

Cuz banjoes and geetarz make hippies feel good

“Judging” and ‘judging’ are very different. If I drink a lot of whiskey every night, like 16 ounces plus, and I get drunk every night, and I can’t quit, am I an alcoholic, or a connoisseur of whiskey? Just wondering

Ok folks, I gotta stop watching videos. This is a great channel and Mr. Flanders is awesome but I just watched a video on another channel about the occurrence of the abomination in New York. Unbelievable. It’s lent and I shouldn’t be this angry I don’t think.

Cowards are NOT allies. They’re dead weight and consume precious resources.

NOPE!!! You are completely WRONG boy’o. The wolves do what wolves do! The ‘shepherds’ DID NOT DO what shepherds do, or should do. Therefore, in pure logically Latin ordinances, the cowardly shepherds are responsible. They fled, and the sheep died. End of story.