Why Did This CVO 110 FAIL??? - Engine TEAR DOWN - Kevin Baxter - Pro Twin Performance

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This 2015 CVO 110 Liquid Cooled Model has 40,000 miles on it and it sounds like a jar of marbles. Lets tear down this Twin Cam and see why this Harley engine noise got BAD! A full tear down and diagnosis.
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@chuckflitton5293 Год назад

thanks again Kevin. If I wasn't I so old I'd just come wash parts for you. I have been building pan"s and shovels since the 70/80/s and I have learned more from you in the last few years than ever. Thank YOU. I'd love to buy you a drink.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

thank you so much chuck. i love pans and shovels too. great engines. like these, they had issues come and go too but for the most part, with diligence, they can run forever! Long Live Pans, Shovels, and Evos! LOL

@Tryke_Ryder Год назад

I watch these videos, and think “I could do that!”, then I look at the pile of broken stuff in my garage that I’m going to fix ‘one day’ and realize, I’m an idiot! Great to watch a true professional work!!! 👍

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Thanks Bill!

@MidnightExpressMC Год назад

You’re not the only one. I know a guy that constantly gets himself into trouble in that his ambitions are beyond his capabilities 😊 From Southern California ~ Ride Forever!

@marka.bibbins9447 Год назад

Pick one project and finish it.

@JesseAbair Год назад

These tear down videos are some of my favorite, on the Tube and from Kevin. This gentleman has such a wealth of knowledge, and it is truly a privilege to be able to watch and listen when he speaks in detail about what he sees and why it may be while he’s tearing down or what he does when he’s building. Thank you man! The relationship between human and machine is a special one.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

thank you so much for the kind words and support.

@lrh411 Год назад

Enjoyed that Kevin, thank you. I've been a mechanic (mostly HVAC) my entire life, I can always spot someone good by their attitude and willingness to share knowledge.

@billyoki8674 Год назад

I just recently found you here. I recently bought a 09 twin cam. Going to be doing cams this spring. Totally redid the primary last spring. Love your wealth of knowledge. Hopefully I don’t find too much nasty. Definitely giving me things to look for.

@markgraves9429 7 месяцев назад

Just found this series. Just up my alley for sure. Fixing anything broken is the easy part. Why it broke is the real deal to ensure your not wasting money on a bad road back to the shop.

@richardboggs260 Год назад

Thank you Kevin for making a video on my engine!!!

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Youre welcome sir! Thanks for answering in the comments. I will tell the story in tonights M8 video. Hated to miss the live chat...i was driving out of state on a biz trip overnighter.

@tcb8295 Год назад

Kevin, enjoyed the video. Didn't make the premeire, been under the weather for a few days, slowly starting to feel better. Thanks for the video.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Hope you feel better soon sir. Thank you !

@bfereclipse156 Год назад

Really enjoyed this tear down vid. I too have a 110 that the lifters failed and I have 7-8/1000s runout. Breaks my heart but at least watching these show me what exactly the shop I use was talking about.

@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад

You must be so disappointed in the quality of your motorcycle. You thought you were going to get a great motorcycle you spent a fortune on a Harley-Davidson and it took a dump. I just can't believe how the quality of a Harley-Davidson has deteriorated in the last 20-plus years after the demise of the Evolution motor. I hear from another RU-vidr that there is kits out there where you could put an Evolution motor in a twin cam frame. It might be something to consider.

@coinneachmacghilleathain8587 Год назад

ALRIGHT! Finally something good to watch today, I was getting a little worried. Thanks Kevin.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Thank you so much Sir!!! I appreciate you and your support.

@formdog9861 Год назад

great video as usual like the one a day video idea thanks for taking the time to make them

@KevinBaxter Год назад

youre welcome. thank you for support!

@martinwall7297 Год назад

keep em coming, Kevin.

@deezullram726 Год назад

Please keep doing these tear down videos! Love them. I subscribe to "I Do Cars" also and his channel is strictly automotive engine teardowns. He disassembles the failed engines to see what happened/caused the failure. Fascinating stuff and this is the Harley version!👍

@joekubesch8558 Год назад

May have to miss the premiere, on account of the weather’s spoda be eminently rideable tomorrow. Gotta seize these last few days while I can.

@RAIDERWORLD Год назад

Awesome as always!

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Thanks Raider!

@richardpitts6284 Год назад

We always tore down our engine's and washed everything ! Dried and wrapped everything in newspaper and boxed . Then brought to to get rebuilt ! Saves time and money.. Greetings from Asheville NC .

@a63strat Год назад

Thanks!

@KevinBaxter Год назад

WOW!!!! a63strat THANK YOU SO MUCH! Very kind and generous of you.

@bluesriderDF Год назад

Another great video, thanks! One thing I'm very interested in is the cost for these rebuilds. Would you ever consider doing a price reveal on some of them?

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Each are different really and can vary broadly depending on 5 things as I have found over the years... current condition of bike, how it will be used, riding style, desired power output, and confidence level of all associated stock components. That determines the required budget and everyone's answers are different to these questions.

@michaelbishop3701 Год назад

Dude, you are a genius. I'm in Winder and the next warm workday I would like to swing by and ask a question or two about my 2001 Heritage Softail. Your opinion would really mean a lot. Love the videos, by the way.

@joeplem5329 Год назад

As someone that has a 110 screaming eagle tire shredder kit on my 2011 dyna this is a bit concerning though I don't beat on it all that much honestly 🤔

@paulhewson4600 Год назад

Thanks as always good stuff,,,

@KevinBaxter Год назад

thank you Paul

@Steve-wx9gl Год назад

Another great video

@josefdolderer3686 Год назад

Thank u for explaining crank rod play ... just ran across that ..

@KevinBaxter Год назад

youre welcome. thanks!

@Jackapoo1 8 месяцев назад

Great video thank you

@kennethperian4370 11 месяцев назад

Great job showing and telling, keep up the good work take care and have a great day see ya on the next video see ya bye.

@jerryspencer5453 Год назад

Good show Kevin.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Thank you Jerry.

@hankhamern5456 Год назад

Good video, always interesting stuff and you don't know what you might find.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

surprises aren't always good things. but to the owner....he said "im glad i did this now, i was going to be doing it anyway once things failed or got worse". Thank you sir.

@TheRoadGlideRider Год назад

Can’t wait for working on the M8. 🏍💨🏍💨

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Thank you sir. just dropped tonight!

@chrismartin6544 Год назад

When my twin cam went out the tech Rodney @ LCHD said the factory says up .006 runout on the crank is ok my crank had .087 and was easily visible to the naked eye lol stock oil pump quit working while I was on the interstate motor was not happy lmao

@journeyofjerry3831 Год назад

Even thou I have no mechanical ability I do enjoy the channel. Does your shop work on metric bikes?

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Thank you so much Jerry. im glad you enjoy it! No sir we dont...i prefer to focus on our specialty.

@dockey6942 Год назад

Boy that guy works fast

@frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад

I can't understand how an engine on such an expensive motorcycle and really expensive in the case of a CBO has catastrophic engine failure and 20 something thousand miles. Mine 20 plus year old Harley Sportster 883 has almost 400,000 miles on the original engine. But just like the Evolution Big twin the Evolution Sportster is discontinued as well. The only time I split the cases on my 1965 Triumph TR6 was because it was 40 years old and the camshaft we're both worn out.

@frankmarrero8167 Год назад

HD is not making quality products for years. They have to change to liquid cooling to get the temperatures down.

@jeffuda3638 Год назад

HD stands for high dollar and keep coming back for more parts even if bike was brought new. 😁

@MurrayMotocross1 10 месяцев назад

The price you pay for beauty man!! Does a 20 yr old gf cook everday and clean the house to perfect... no .. we know what we are getting when we buy Milwaukee 😏 If we wanted a bike that ran forever wo issues we would buy honda.. ahhh come on!!!!

@shawndeck136 4 месяца назад

What's they're not telling you? Is all of the hot roding people due to make them break I see guys beat on them constantly.

@okkie1958 2 месяца назад

I replaced the lifters on my 110 cvo at aprox. 40000 kilometers to prevent exactly this. I was advised to do so by one of the mechanics at the shop where i bought the bike. He told me he had a catastrophic engine failure caused by a lifter exploding while running the bike on a dyno. He told me this is a known problem wich can ocure on 110 cvo engines. Seeing this video i'm glad i did. Changed the cam plate, cam bearings for a SE camplate en bigger oil pump in the proces. Bike stil runs like a dream. 😊

@kaantuncer7884 Месяц назад

Do you still own thr bike? If so what is the milage now? Any problems since then?

@kaantuncer7884 Месяц назад

Just thinking to buy one abt 80 k km. Not sure if its a gamble

@okkie1958 16 дней назад

I still own the bike and it has 60000 km's on it now. I noticed that on several of the failures on 110 engine the lifters were the cause of the problem. If the bike you are interseted in runs good you could considder purchasing it and upgrade it with new lifters.

@okkie1958 16 дней назад

@@kaantuncer7884look at the comment above

@cameroncunningham687 Год назад

I got a 2003 88 that needs some work if you want to tear is down and do some upgrades lol.

@hfreakhilz Год назад

Hey Kev have a 2009 CVO Ultra with a total engine rebuilt right from crank shaft, Screaming eagle cam plate, piston jets everything in the year 2016 sounds great but the past worries, is it reliable now, miles after rebuild around 10k.

@randymccalla9995 Год назад

I missed seeing a destroyed cam plate, they already removed ?

@frederickking1660 11 дней назад

The 110s had more valve spring tension. This may cause problems.

@martinwall7297 Год назад

anybody ever do a study or count of the damage harley engines per lets say 1000 produced. also what % of damage engines is higher, complete factory stock or upgraded engines with preformance parts. tks. keep em coming.

@josephdemarco8891 Год назад

Are special tools required to split cases and reassemble

@tm-dx7vr Год назад

Kevin, what causes the piston slap, the cylinders not machined correctly? I bought a 100 CI S&S big bore kit, they sent the shop doing the work 8 sets of cylinders before there were 2 that would fit. It has piston slap until it warms up,. Is this normal for a big bore set up or do you think there is an issue?

@thomaskirkpatrick4031 3 месяца назад

Kevin, your videos are depressing when it comes to the "newer" Harley engines. Sorry, but I'll never give up on my EVO.

@gilscott3465 Год назад

35 years of trouble free honda and yamaha........3 years with my first harley and i'm still stunned as to what a pos it is. first and last.....that engine has no miles on it..what a shame

@terrymacdonald2864 18 дней назад

I never liked stainless steel fasteners. They will gall easily and inherently have less tensile strength than a good high carbon steel fastener. But customers would insist on them anyway.

@briankorelec7718 Год назад

An evo tear down and case swap would be cool as hell.. just sayin my man…

@KevinBaxter Год назад

That just so happens to be my plan exactly my friend ... i just so happen to have one with a brand new polished case right behind that tear down table next in line ;)

@kurtruppenthal9506 Год назад

I love the tear down videos. Seems like the 110's were problematic. Good video Kevin. Thanks.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

thank you sir. not all were but they did have some issues.

@randymccalla9995 Год назад

@@KevinBaxter do you feel like the roller lifter bases are at fault a lot. ??

@nbowling10trio 21 день назад

The lifters always tell you they're gonna give up right? Always a tapping right?

@user-fz6ui4cm2n Год назад

What do you have on the 110 screamin eagle counter balance chain tensioner shoes I a 2017 flss lifters went out a 42000 miles got lucky on that now I am wondering when the counter balance shoes go out out can't find any info on how long they last I don't hot rod the bike have 43000 miles on it now?

@johnlucas8924 Год назад

What would you charge to do a 107 s&s thank you

@westcoast3595 Год назад

I could hear bearing noise when you rolled the crank over

@markkiger927 Год назад

Had a 2010 CVO 110. Worst HD engine I’ve ever had. Bike was babied and that 110 used one quart of oil every 1,000 miles.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

ouch. hate to hear that.

@FlipandTheBlueMule Год назад

👍👍👍👍👍

@Sapper_StRiKe Год назад

Is the crank in that shape because Harley started using pressed bearings instead of staying with the the timken bearings during assembly to cut cost? I have a 103ci HO engine but upgraded to a stage III 110ci kit; apparently if I want to go up to a 117ci I'd have get a new crank to handle the HP and TQ.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

not really. a tapered main bearing vs roller bearing really doesnt contribute to scissoring or twisting a crank. you dont have to have a brand new crank, but i would certainly reman and work your stock one at least.

@DavidTorres-xl2jl Год назад

Hi Kevin, I had a severe sumping issue on my M8 and the motor eventually blew with a piston rotating in the cylinder. Do you think the extreme overheating could of caused the piston rings and cylinders to be compromised to the point the piston could turn in the cylinder destroying my heads and motor?

@KevinBaxter Год назад

it takes a lot to spin a piston....a lot! typically only happens with a dropped valve or broken skirt. wow. heat can destroy an engine....a lot of heat really could.

@randysiler7458 Год назад

👍👍

@robertgraham791 Год назад

Any way to diagnose a 110s condition by the sound?...LOL. Mine is a 2016 from a CVO Limited. Had the lifters replaced early in it's life. It has 42k on it and runs well and well kept. Maybe it is just time for the complete rebuild to a 117! :)

@KevinBaxter Год назад

I have learned to identify noises over the years and most of the time can nail it pretty well....but...i still get surprised. not only by where a noise can originate, to where its heard. but also....how something can be a bad issue inside yet NOT make a noise. engines are fickle things.

@stevedotworld Год назад

Mine went 117 13k miles ago at 60k.

@robertgraham791 7 месяцев назад

@@KevinBaxter update on my 110. Had the cam, lifters replaced. Looks like I caught it in time. No damage to anything else. Cylinders fine, run-out was in spec.

@magic4221 Год назад

Please. What do you use for bore and stroke on YOUR 117 cu in engine?

@KevinBaxter Год назад

4 3/8 stroke with 4 1/8 bore.

@Patriot-Logic Год назад

It’s a Frankenstein motor!

@creigmacc Год назад

The sumping caused the big end bearings to fail?

@KevinBaxter Год назад

indirectly possibly so. excessive heat would be a factor.

@creigmacc Год назад

@@KevinBaxterI find the entire sumping issue fascinating. Chicken or egg question stacked 2 or 3 levels deep to discover the cause and effect of other issues. Skunk Works indeed. 👍

@dannyburgess2781 Год назад

Would. 96. Run to. Hot if turn it in to. 110. Are. Put. W. Are e. Oil. Cooler. On it.

@chuckflitton5293 Год назад

dialelectric grease or never-seize?

@KevinBaxter Год назад

he had used both appropriately.

@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234 Год назад

I'm starting to regret my HD purchace.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

Please dont. Remember...there are hundreds of thousands of bikes out there. We are specialists at solving and improving complex issues and we represent a very small number of all those out there. My goal is to explain issues in case you do have one and help you understand what it takes to fix them.

@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234 Год назад

@@KevinBaxter Here in Ontario there isn't many riders of any brands tbh. I forget how many there in the U.S. I raced at Pittrace a number of times this summer and see so many HD's on the way there. I still love my HD and your channel. I learn new things all the time!

@lowe80 Год назад

Job security motors

@deezullram726 Год назад

Did I miss how many miles were on this engine, or do you even know?

@thomashall6937 Год назад

Great video, how many miles are on this engine? I have a 110 water head with 54,000 on it, just wondering

@richardboggs260 Год назад

Thomas my engine had 22,369 miles on it. Always changed oil in all holes at 4,000 miles. I have never had the engine above 5,000 rpm

@richardboggs260 Год назад

Thomas my engine had 22,369 miles on it. Changed oil every 4,000 miles always used Amsoil. I have never had the engine above 5,000 rpm, mostly up only around 3,800 rpm

@rodzimmerman1979 Год назад

Boy, 40,000 miles. Customer sure can't be happy with that.

@KevinBaxter Год назад

i actually mis-spoke. it was 24,000 miles.

@artmchugh5644 Год назад

24,000 miles!!??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🏍🏍 buy a better bike !!!!! But if you have to be one of the " BRO'S" your hands are tied !!

@safelyanonymous5717 Год назад

man that sux for that individual...

@KevinBaxter Год назад

yes sir.

@dannyburgess2781 Год назад

When I get. Mile on my bike. I want. Build it. Take 96. Make 110. With gear cam. And do the heads and. Get kit IL let you. Choice. The best. I want you to. Do it if was your bike.

@mdwillowswillows5414 Год назад

🚶💭 👍👍👍👍👍+ ☕

@user-vx9mg6ie7d 11 месяцев назад

Case failure

@artmchugh5644 Год назад

These teardown videos just affirm the those chrome air compressors are really crappy !!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

@dockey6942 Год назад

Talk fast to

@Petesv321 Год назад

Kevin, is it fair to say that just about every engine you see has sumping issues? Seems like HD is putting out some sub par motors. My 2018 107 most likely has this issue too. Thanks

@KevinBaxter Год назад

By the time they get to me, yes...many do but not all. It's easy enough to detect and check.

@adminadmin9997 Год назад

I have a 2020 m8 107 motor and it has 50k miles and runs great still

@MidnightExpressMC Год назад

@@adminadmin9997 From 2020 and up, didn’t they finally get it right at the Mother Company in regards to the oil pump? From what I understand from an old-timer industry insider, they had upwards of 15 different iterations of the pump although part numbers showed less than that quantity.