Why Do STAR WARS Fans Hate Everything? 

No one hates badly told Star Wars stories more than Star Wars fans🤷‍♂️

I can't think of a worse fanbase.

​@@KingSlayer_.Yet they never create content.

facts, I go onto youtube after i watch something starwars, and all i see is "why the show is bad". all they do is show normal scenes of characters, and then pretend to be outraged.

Facts

Same. The new shows are amazing. These people don't even try to watch or understand the theme or the story. They just conditioned themselves to hate it and that's what they're trying to do. They sit there to find a scene they don't like ''hurr this stormtrooper took 1 step too much'' ''hurr plott'' because they can't get themselves to allow these new shows to have the benefit of the doubt of being fiction like they do with the OT. If you sit and try to find something to hate, either it be some narrative decision to help the protagonists or a small logical mistake then you will find issues with every movie, show, cartoon whatever out there. If the OT came out today they would shit on it more than the current ones due to all of its problems. Remember all the flack Obi Wan got because the lightsaber bounced off something? It did so in the OT too. The hyprocrisy.

Same, I think the Star Wars fandom is one of the worst fandoms out there

The Internet fandom is where it’s the absolute worst. However as one who has attended two Star Wars Celebrations, it’s a whole lot different when you actually see real life people celebrating and coming together in shared passions.

Execution is a pretty strong word if we're talking about Disney SW.

SW plot of the original 3 episodes looks like written by a 8yo kid who just ate too much sugar. It is insanly childish. If any adult thinks these are the best movies ever made, then he is not the sharpest pencil around to begin with...

@@noldo3837 movies are far more than plot. A great movie can have huge plot holes but if the pacing, characters, score, sound effects, etc distract the audience enough then viewers won’t question it. At least not in the first viewing. I wouldn’t say the OT is three of the greatest movies of all time. I’d say it’s two of the greatest movies of all time and a muppet movie with a cool space battle.

@@noldo3837 that’s saying something since the prequels and sequels are even worse. Lucas said SW is written for kids Anyway

@@bigsnacks913 * most SW movies in general

I like all Star Wars. Don’t listen to others opinions. They over exaggerate

Yeah, they're whiney bitches. I did not like Episodes 8 and 9 from the main saga, but I just kinda dealt with it in my head canon and moved on to other star wars movies and shows that I like, and I've liked more than I've disliked so far. They over exaggerate and everything is a "world ending problem." They're afraid of lore and canon growing and so things are immediately a "loophole" or "breaks canon" but you really just find out these fans are terribly uncreative and unimaginative and blame the writers because they can't perceive how it works or aren't willing to accept that it does.

I mean Disney break cannon multiple times in the sequels and spin off shows is that not important?

@@ghostwalkergames7707 no man, don’t think about it. Just consume product and then get excited for the next product. That’s all these NPCs need to feel satisfied.

@@Red-zh7vq then call fans racist and sexist yeah yeah I get it haha

Or maybe, just maybe they are tired of getting shit movies and TV shows over and over and over, after a while, you get fed up. Also, if "because they base their whole identity and happiness on them" is true, what does that say of people defending this shit ? Why do you and this channel care what others think ? You are not a Star wars fan, i mean they all are Toxic.......

That’s also true for the toxic positivity of the Star Wars fanbase. People get mad that others criticized the most recent Star Wars product because they identify themselves with Star Wars. So when someone criticizes it, they take it as a personal attack upon them.

Exactly. For one there is no franchise or property that exist that every movie or television show is a home run. That would be like a sports fan expecting his team to go undefeated every year and win the championship every year and if they don’t they’re going to hate that sports team for the rest of their life. You are correct I think just small vocal minority besides not having anything else to be happy about in life whether it’s Star Wars or DC comics or Marvel or whatever, their entire life is based around one of these properties and that’s not really healthy at all. And yeah I love Star Wars, I love Ghostbusters, I love DC comics, but just because there’s a bad episode or a bad movie does not mean someone went back in time in inappropriately touched my childhood and that actors need to get death threats or have racist messages sent to them online. Fans like that are people that really truly have no life outside of the franchise that they have made a God in their life.

@GrantKP True, these fanboys are projecting a lot here in the comments. How dare anybody criticize my precious Star Wars!!

That's a very good point. People are clinging to entertainment for emotional needs the same way they used to cling to religion or patriotism.

love her, the series AND THEN be toxic about it. God help me if clone wars fans are not the most elitist entitled bastards on the internet, they literally compare everything to clone wars and jerks filoni off like he's a saint even though clone wars has some flaws that people seem to ignore. Wish i can hex star wars fans with eternal itch inside their rectum

What makes Ashoka so likeable is she matures as the series goes on. People seem to hate “character development”

Yeah hypocrisy is real. They hated the force awakens cause it was just a copy of A New Hope and hated Kylo Ren for being a whiny baby.....and now they all love it cause they hate the second and third sequel movies.

Except Ahsoka was literally written to be hated at first. She was made to be a bratty kid talking down to these characters we’ve loved for so long and giving them dumb nicknames. And then she experiences the reality of the war and matures real fast, which is why people love her now. Its not a hypocrisy thing, Ahsoka was written to get that type of reaction and development.

@@fallen4life080 all 3 are terrible sorry.

Wrong, the prequels are shit, they are simply better when compared to the Sequels. Also, i find it hard to believe that suddenly a overwhelming number of fans like the prequels. So in order for the Sequels to be liked more, there needs to be another Trilogy thats even shittier. And even for Disney, thats a tall order.

​@@Ixiah27 You mean Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm produces everything, Disney distributes and releases them.

@@Ixiah27 The prequels aren't shit, there fucking amazing! They added so much to the Star Wars lore and perfectly summed up the rise of the Empire and Darth Vader. WTF is wrong with some Star Wars fans? The saying really is true, no one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans. 🤦‍♂️

@@Ixiah27 this is how you lure a toxic fan, just say the prequels are good

@@atomic_coldwar6045 Ok Beta. :)

This is so accurate lol, it's like the star wars fandom is having a real life sith-jedi war, but fuck it im on the Jedi side now, I'm not gonna bind my opinions to these losers assumptions on everything. The sequel trilogy had cringey moments but I personally think it was good, I don't care anymore lol

I haven't liked anything Disney star wars related. I gave it a chance but it was just boring weird. I don't even like star wars to begin with, my friends just told me to watch it.

Yup agreed.

@@primeoctober “only a sith deals in absolutes”

The dark side is definitely real and it shows through the toxic "fans"

I saw a video where a "former network executive" slammed Ewan for it and i had to say "Dude its a co-worker, you'd do the same, regardless of it being Disney or not!"

There's more star wars now that Disney own it so you think fans would be happy but no toxic fans complain a complain and there supposed to be fans but all they do is hate on everything lol

@@anthonylambert1513 yeah but what's the point of how much Star wars it is if the quality of it is terrible.

@@anthonylambert1513 Quality > Quantity

5 episodes. Show sucks.

Oh god, I know how you feel. I remember how triggered everyone got when that one character from ashoka was learning how to use the force even though she wasn't force sensitive before and everyone started going "SHE CAN'T DO THAT!! REEEE!! THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS YOU HAVE TO BE BORN FORCE SENSITIVE!! REEEE!!

Hivemind. One guy screams this is bad, and the silent audience jumps on the notion, when the hivemind stays dormant for a few years, another guy screams this is good. So many movies were shat upon when they released, now they're considered cult classics. Stars Wars Prequels, Starship Troopers are great examples

I don't remember ever hating TASM, but I did found it boring when compared to Sam Riami films. The only thing I truly loved about them was Time Square scene with the Electro and more importantly, I loved his theme song.

No way home targeted all those little gay anti social pricks that were born in 16’ and Beyond

@@aimanghazi7043 "So many movies were shat upon when they released, now they're considered cult classics. Stars Wars Prequels" I like some evidence of that, 2 people on a random board are not "Hivemind"

@@Ixiah27 it was far more than 2 people

No no Noooo how dare you you have to hate it for the rest of your life, let it consume you!! 😂

Aka I only gave a shit about Star Wars when Disney started manufacturing it on a conveyor belt so none of this shit really meant anything to me in the first place

I mean my first Star Wars film was the phantom menace on VHS, and I watched empire religiously growing up but ok 😂

@@calebc7858 then you would think you’d give a shit about Disney constantly ruining Luke Skywalker

@@Red-zh7vq only if I thought they did. I love Luke in the Last Jedi, and it’s easily my favourite film outside the original trilogy. Your opinion is yours.

Nerdrotic, Jadyn and so and. Critical Drinker as well to a certain extent but at least he argues his points with more conviction.

@@Muskateering And geeks and freaks all they have to say is “man good woman bad” and they get a ton of views which is crazy.

@@Muskateering dont forget that starwars girl

Conformist brainlet normies, you all act like they arent all making valid irrefutable points, not just about Disney Star wars but current media/ culture in general. Reducing these facts to "Hate" is what's really disgusting and disingenuous. Stick your heads in the sand and mindlessly consume subpar garbage riddled with malicious political propaganda, sit back as western civilization is purposely collasped around you by the globalist powers that be and their stooges in your home countries to forge their digital totalitarian system if you wish, but don't try to dismiss those have the balls to confront this shit for what it is. In the end they will be the ones who will pressure this current toxic marxist culture to change for the better by dishing out accountability, not you Ostriches. "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis" - Dante Alighieri

Can’t believe I use to sub to those fools. Geeks and Gamers especially argued with John Boyega on twitter, and like typical grifter fashion used his tweets to make a new video. They’re all literally grifters who generalize non stop.

@@MJWP2334 no duh

OT is good writing?

@@Shiro_dono yes lol. lightsaber fights may be boring but emotion in the ot is realistic.

@@thesenate668 Emotion in E4? Nah. Explain how Luke’s reaction to his parents and Leia’s entire planet. You can’t be serious. I’ll give you at least they tired much harder to act with emotion in E5 & E6.

@@Shiro_dono someone’s mad

The thing is that we should've learn from the mistake of the past and not repeat them again.

It is like an endless cycle, which reminds me of what a character from a Star Wars show said.

I don't really hate the Sequels, it was just rushed and didn't have a clear focus so for me I'm kinda saddened it couldn't have been even better, but I can still enjoy them especially Last Jedi and even Rise of Skywalker. When I left the threatre I was wanting more cause I thought it should have gotten a really long cut or another movie cause It was such a huge threat and kinda wanted to see Palpatine win plus Sith Troopers go so hard!!

@@pink_kino I have to agree they were rushed. That doesn’t stop me from loving the good parts about it. I can find bad stuff in any of the trilogies. I’m kinda hoping someday we get special editions of the sequels kinda like the OT

and i like the prequels because of the world building, and the fact that the part of the fandom im in is the military part of it.

How can you seriously think people have high expectations after everything Disney has done to Star Wars? What's naive about wanting basic internal consistency?

@@Clipzilla42 Because they keep watching whatever new things come out. The same people who keep complaining about Star Wars don’t seem to be able to find anything else to be interested in.

@@crixxxxxxxxx How is that relevant

@@Clipzilla42 it isn't. The guy doesn't know how to answer your questions.

@@Clipzilla42 Why would you bother watching something that you expect to be bad? If you don’t like anything they produce, you would logically have no interest in whatever else they come out with. But that’s not the case. You keep watching what they produce and find fault in everything. You keep hoping something new will come along that you like, but it never comes, and you lack the ability to move on from the franchise.

“It’s only been five episodes” bro the series is six episodes long.

The series was a joke. It focused on a never-existing relationship between Kenobi and Leia--and added a duel with Vader that means Kenobi is now responsible for the death of millions--both cases which water down "A New Hope" terribly. "Kenobi" is the epitome of Disney "Star Wars": consume our product, like it or be labelled an -ist or -ism.

​@@KennethDillard Kenobi was responsible for millions of deaths with or without the Kenobi show. You forget that Obi Wan also didn't kill Anakin during ROTS so he's still culpable anyways

​@@KennethDillardinteresting, what are your opinions on the biochips?

​@@KennethDillardIt's treason, then.

“Everything is just “bad, bad, bad”” yeah. Because it is. “but they still watched it.” Yes. How else are we supposed to find out?

@@TheVagabond627 So, you watch a show in a franchise and afterwards all you can do about it is complain. You watch the next thing from the franchise and all you can do is complain. You watch a third thing from the same franchise and you complain again. Maybe stop watching?

@@kalebdaark100 yes. Because it’s shit!

@@kalebdaark100 Exactly

@@kalebdaark100 gatekeeping mentality. You are just a gatekeeper. What if that said fan not liked but loved marvel and starwars when the content was consistently good. But then new writers come on board and start to mess with the story telling and lore that of which was previously settup over a span of YEARS and of which you were invested? Then those writers start adding in their own political beliefs and narratives to these characters to the point the characters are changed and are no longer even the same characters. Does said fan not have the right to criticise and point out these changes? Does said fan not have the right to complain after years apon years of built intrest? Nah you dont get to just say "stop watching then" because clearly you lack the ability to recognise the build up investment into those ips and characters. Maybe that said fan wants it back to how it was? And wants to share their opinions freely without getting called names, painted as racist, sexist or any othet ists or isms. The hate that you people blab on about was created by you, by the media and by the writers. When you get it then you cry. Reap what you saw

Nothing that you’re saying is true tho. Most Star war fans hate the new stuff because it’s badly written. Just like the prequels are trash. Literally Star Wars is one of the worst written franchises ever. Same thing goes for modern Star Trek. Most Star Trek fans hate the new Star Trek stuff because it’s full of bad writing.

@@damiantirado9616 It's not though. The only things that are really bad on a writing level is the Rise of Skywalker and Book of Boba Fett in the current run of Disney Star Wars. The rest of Disney Star Wars don't have severe writing problems to the point where they would be considered bad but there is a argument to be made that they break canon and disrespect George Lucas which I disagree with the breaking of canon part of that. It could be disrespecting George Lucas but that doesn't bother me that much cause all I am looking for is a good story not if it pleases the creator. If Lucas wanted to continue Star Wars then he should of kept the franchise. The biggest reasonings from what I saw from videos for why Disney of Star Wars sucks is because it goes against canon and George which someone like Star Wars Theory has made a good amount of videos talking about it.

@@CometStar100 I don’t care about George Lucas he ruined Star Wars along time ago with the prequels. Disney Star Wars sucks too they do have bad writing. The force awakens isn’t a good film kid. It’s a bland copy of a new Hope, the only character that has character development is Finn. Apart from that all the characters in that movie are bland and dull. The last Jedi has tons of terrible writing, same thing goes for Rouge One and Solo a Star Wars story which is incredibly stupid nostalgia bait movie. You only enjoy the new stuff because of nostalgia. Kenobi is very badly written too. The only thing that is good is the Mandalorian season one. But the Mandalorian season one isn’t great it’s okay at best. 7/10 type of show. The problem is Hollywood this days makes crap tv shows and movies that you people are so used to terrible and dull writing, so when Hollywood uses nostalgia bait you enjoy it, or when Hollywood makes the minimum effort at doing something interesting like the Mandalorian you think it’s a master when in reality it’s just average and amateur filmmaking. In summary your expectations are so low due to trash filmmaking that an okay/average movie or tv show with nostalgia makes you feel like it’s a masterpiece cause it’s the best you’ve seen compared to the rest of the crap they have. Edit: if you’re a true film fan and watch movies made in the past analyze them and watch movies this days you would know Hollywood makes pure trash this days. Especially Star Wars. I recommend you to watch Mr. Plinkett Star Wars reviews, you will learn a lot about filmmaking by watching those videos, probably the best Star Wars reviewer ever. Most RU-vidrs review Star Wars by using their nostalgia “hey look Han Solo showed up and I like him, movie is a 8/10” that’s not how you review a film. But most people only care about nostalgia this days so Hollywood doesn’t make anything better.

@@damiantirado9616 You really don't have to spam or make it be personal with comet star. This video just said don't let entertainment control your life because its just entertainment. Yet you make a full essay of hate. Why?

@@damiantirado9616 Did I say current run of Star Wars was a masterpiece? I said I enjoyed most of the new stuff to a certain degree. I liked TFA. I liked TLJ. I really disliked TROS. I loved Rouge One. I thought Solo was just ok. Mando has been pretty good so far. Book of Boba was really bad. Rebels was pretty good. Bad Batch was boring. Kenobi so far has been pretty good. Well I am speaking as a Star Wars fan where Star Wars is bigger then just movies. The best Star Wars story of all time is a RPG videogame called Knights of the Old Republic in my opinion. I love movies which is why I am subscribed to a ton of movie channels and I wouldn't say my expectations are super low cause I have disliked a lot of movies recently so I don't just blindly like everything I watch. Top Gun Maverick was the best movie I have seen in such a long time. I don't know what else to tell you other then I don't think they are so bad. They might not be as good as the OT in my opinion but I wouldn't call everything new Star Wars really that bad.

And some peoples entire internet ‘brand’ is "white knighting"

That’s hilarious, this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen

@@DagothUr69 are you agreeing with me?

Your not wrong

This used to be more than just cookie cutter bullshit. Storytelling isn’t just content, it’s art. It should be good, it should mean something. You just roll over take whatever Disney gives you.

@@Red-zh7vq uhhh, so what? I like Disney, so yeah I'm going to watch what they give to us to watch. I'm not going to be overly negative with whatever it is, even the worst pieces of entertainment have something good to say about them. Look, I know you're trying to start something and make me angry or something, so this is the only thing I'm going to say. You are right, storytelling isn’t just content, it is art too. But in the end whatever piece of entertainment you didn't like, (especially Disney I'm guessing), they still got the last laugh because you watched it and gave them money. ;) Have a good day

@@tigerseye8875 so you’ll eat whatever turd Disney shits out if it’s got that Star Wars label on it. That’s all I need to know.

@@Red-zh7vq 'storytelling is art' 'it should be good' mf doesn't even know what art is. its subjective. such a sad way to reply to someone

​@@tigerseye8875 OMEGA based.

Exactly

Yes, but, you know why that is? I think the answer is easy enough to see. Lucas had a great vision in the beginning, which after the first two films started to change. Then he sold it all to Disney who usually aren't making SW shows with any of Lucas' vibe. So we've ended up with a range of different 'vibes' which different people have really, really fallen for. Then some portion of the fan base is bound to end up unhappy when the next movie or series to come out doesn't give them more of what they want. Compare this to the Harry Potter series of novels (just the first lot). You had one writer, with a consistent vision and story she wanted to tell from start to finish. Because the vision was always consistent, the fan base never got split (to any degree like the SW fan base). In other words, I don't think the fans are especially bad - I just think they've each fallen in love with different phases of this fictional universe, and they can't get their fix anymore because Lucas didn't have the ideas or motivation to keep going in the same vein as he started.

I totally feel the same way... People say they want something new but always complain when they get something that doesn´t feel exactly like the old movies. I know that The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker aren´t the best movies but I enjoyed them far more than episode 7 because it wasn´t just a copy of A new hope. (And I loved the return of Palpatine and the introduction of Exegol)

I didn’t like rise of skywalker at all when I first saw it and then something weird happened and it’s now my favorite of the sequel trilogy.

@@bryansteele832 is it because its hilariously awful?

@@Tom-nc5qv I'm not sure. I think its because the new cast are actually doing stuff instead being semi bystanders. Since the story is totally forced there was attempt to actually make some lore and intrigue. I totally see its faults....buts it's also a lot more fun to watch than the previous 2. Force awakens is kind of boring once the guavian death gang shows up, and in TLJ the A story is amazing but the B & C stories are flat. The sequel trilogy just is what it is. It's not getting retconned or remade so whatever issues I had with it I'm over it. I like what I like in it and do not like what I do not like. Moving forward.

@@bryansteele832 that's fair enough dude, each to their own I guess. I personally felt as the the story/plot line for the movies was crap, almost like they hadn't actually put any real effort or thought into it at all. Also Rey and Kylo are some of the worst writing for characters I've seen for a long time, their when arc made no sense and neither of them really end up accomplishing anything at all by the end of the movies.

i respect that. i think 8 was extremly boring and 9 the worst star wars movie but i dont care about it too much, i just move on with my life. its good you liked it.

Oh I wholeheartedly agree! People can like and dislike what they want, within reason. But the moment someone belittles another based on difference of opinions or controversial opinions, then they are witch-hunted, bullied, harassed and threatened. Not just Star Wars, but also Batman Fanboys too and anime fans. Ironically, many of these franchises and styles of movies teach about doing good things and being a hero without the need for violence, yet the fans act like the villains.

If thats only a problem with Star Wars fans, who do you complain to ? This Channel ? If hes not a Star Wars fan, why even make that video ? Also Toxic fandom ? Show me any and i mean ANY fandom that doesnt have fanatics, im waiting.

I guess you are fine with mediocrity. If you can have Lord of the Ring's quality why would you condone "Rings of Power" mediocrity? I agree that "hating" is not productive, but condoning mediocrity is bad for cinema and the stories they use as base. Tolkien spent decades writing a marvelous world only to have Amazon change everything he meant.. Disney did the same with Star Wars, they created bad plots, and didn't treat the property with the historic respect it deserved.

I'm liking the Kenobi series so far, but apparently according to all of my recommended videos it's the worst thing that happened to media

@@Rockden Well that pretty much proves my point lol.

@@Rockden don't worry the future generation might love it soon like they did with the prequels

ESPECIALLY THAT STAR WARS GIRL....... On You Tube. I M Like Could You WRITE IT Or Film IT BETTER.

@@Rockden I ENJOYED THE BAD BATCH.

He has a fair share of good and bad people in this comment section. But he can easily ban/delete the toxicity

@@joec7217 It sucks some fans are so toxic. I do see some calm responses that disagree with his video but of course there has to be some really toxic comments here. It's sad at this point

@@oliverrosck996 It really is. I will admit, I really like the new movies (I guess you can call them guilty pleasure movies of mine), but they definitely have flaws. However, if you do or don't like them doesn't matter to me. People like what they like. It doesn't make a difference and it's a shame Star Wars has become one of those franchises where the movies are mostly good, but the fanbase is trash

You view it as that. Without the new movies I wouldn’t love the Original characters as much as I do now.

I wanna go watch it now

im same way, i love watching this show even the newer movies, im not a fan of rey and her character development but i love seeing han and chewy back and the new star destroyers and troopers love all that

Exactly, they always are rude anything new comes out that isn’t the OT. It needs to be perfect

@@jpogs6976 Exactly

I CANT WAIT To See The New Asoka Show ⭐️ Rosario Dawson & NATASHA LIU BORDIZZO As Sabine Wren.

It's cool that enjoy everything, but you agree that most of it is terrible, right? Because I'm pretty sure that nobody really cares about you liking or disliking it, and it's usually when going into its quality when issues arrive.

You processed your dislike for a movie in a healthy way? HOW DARE YOU.

😂 I mean it’s the halo show, it’s Star Trek it’s Star Wars it’s lord of the rings. Like all media and big franchise are ruined the same way. You are just moving on to get a later dick slap in the face. You are just accepting that it will stay shit. Which is fine but like that’s just giving up your standards. Anyone can do that it’s eady

Honestly, good idea.

Just consume and then exited about next Product.

​@@Ixiah27just endlessly complaining about each and every product before and after they get released like it's your life's mission.

It's comments like these that make me hate this fanbase

Let it out

Let it out, as long as you are not hostile be vocal about things you dislike all you want

Agreed.

It’s the Reva show lol

@@ghostwalkergames7707 How?

@@sweetkinglore because Reva feels more important the old Ben? Obiwan is dragged through the mud while Reva is praised for being the bestest ever... and oh she was secretly on the good side all along except she doesn’t seem like a hero. Not at all...

@@ghostwalkergames7707 How does she feel more important then OBI?? We're following him, not her. When does Obi get dragged, at all? And Reva is an interesting character, where did you get people thinking she was the best?

Seems to me you're vocalizing your hate right now - notice anything?! 😉

what makes it so much worse is that they're mostly adults who act like this, if it were young cringey kids then thats fine but these are grown ass adults treat star wars as either the second coming of christ or the death or entertainment and switch between them on a dime.

Funny, im more annoyed by all the massive amount of defenders who cant stand that someone doesnt praise a bad Movie or Tv Show. So just never complain about anything, just eat the garbage, never refuse to pay for the next Swill, thats how you get a better product, sure.....

@@Ixiah27 Nobody cares, Jeremy. You’re not as smart as you think you are

@@Kirdo-6241 Sure, whatever you say, internet tough guy. :)

That's very true. It's a very black-and-white form of thinking, and it makes me sad that some people think that there can't be anything in-between. Some things are fairly good or decent, and just because someone likes them doesn't mean they think they are perfect or masterpieces. Not everything needs to be masterpieces or perfect.

Sure, just give participation trophies to everything. That's enabling shit.

@@ARandomInternetUser08 its called seeing the good in things and not being a negative person

@@Awesomeness42102 it's borderline impossible to see the good in something that's riddled with irl political bias.

@@ARandomInternetUser08 thats a you problem unfortunately

46 and 2 played during the trailer for the first Captain America😂

@@MediaLoverChris02 no way really?

@@Bugga-Ray-Dudley ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W4DlMggBPvc.html This feels more like an early 2000’s trailer than a 2010’s trailer

What's wrong with using a video of someone who took their time to analyze the show and construct their thoughts as a way to explain yourself? Have you thought that, perhaps, the RU-vidr was making a good point and your friend simply agreed with him? Your friend's opinion is that he didn't like it, and to back it up he wanted to use someone who he thought did a better job at explaining it. "Where the points made good?" is really the only thing you should care about, not where the points come from.

@@VladDascaliuc Its something that has become a issue lately where people dont think for themselves, they let others do it for them. Nothing wrong with listening to other people opinions on things but when you blindly agree just because its from someone you like is where its a issue. critical thinking skills is slowly being removed and people just blindly listen and not think. after all this i talked with my friend more n more we watched vids again and he learned the person he listened to later was wrong on many levels and now he wondering why he even listened to him to begin with.

@@TheWrestlingful respect your opinion, but I will still keep mine! Enjoy what you like about Star Wars and I'll do the same with respect :)

I'm sorry but the " people like them so they shouldn't be attacked" argument is a really bad point because when the franchise has lost so much money, fans, and reputation because of these movies no amount of a "few" people like them is going to change the fact that no one will probably care about the sequels in 20 years like the OT or even the prequels.

@@franks2796 I get what you're saying all I'm saying that disliking something and bullying someone for liking something you don't are different it's perfectly okay to dislike things but when you're attacked for being a fan of it that's really not okay, it's fine you don't have to love these films at the end of the day all I'm saying is you don't wanna hear someone tell you that you're a dumb piece of sh*t for at least enjoying something that's all

@@franks2796 Maybe, but there are movies that didn't do so well in theaters and then became cult classics later. Perhaps the same will happen with the Star Wars sequels.

I'm pretty confident that they won't cause the OT and even the prequels have lots of fans and support by lucasfilm, it really feels like even Disney wants to forget about the sequels.

46 & 2 is the song that plays in the trailer for ‘Captain America: The First Avenger’

We should be able to criticize the things we hate without all the white knighting. That's all I ever wanted.

@@Ixiah27 liking things is white knighting now?

@@Hotlmao Oh, liking something, no. But videos like these here arent exactly that, arent they ? First they suggest "The Fans" hate everything, which of course raises the question, isnt the guy who makes this vid also a Fan ? Already the generalization breaks down. Then it assumes that Disney, a Billion Dollar Corporation that never gave a fuck about anything, if you look into their recent Tv and Movie history, was so afraid of SW to fail that they.......what exactly ? Gave the _Trilogy_ to a guy who is infamous for being unable to write endings, looked at the Story and realized that there is no setup for part 8 and 9 and said: "Yeah, thats what the Fans demand, we nailed it" Sorry, but pointing all of this out and asking why the hell guys like this channel here are White Knighting for a Faceless Corp that doesnt give a shit, thats not "Toxic Fandom" thats simply being done with Cucks who defend shit Media.

@@Ixiah27 the thing is most of the star wars fandom does hate everything and he even said that he likes ufc but when his favorite fighter loses his whole day is ruined just like how star wars fans act and ignoring 8, 9, and BOBF star wars is doing decent mando and andor is good, kenobi is meh, fallen order is good, clone wars and bad batch is also good

@@Hotlmao And that is based on what ? Im serious, "most SW Fans hate everything" ? Realy ? Can i state that you owe me money and then u have to pay it, just like that ?

Don't ask questions. Just consume product, then get excited for next product.

@@cowetascore8476 ironically you say that whilst just repeating everything RU-vid grifters have trained you to say. Ffs next you’ll be one of those virgins who whines about “wokeness”.

ESPECIALLY These Fools Who WANTS MARVEL STUDIOS Too Fail And I M Like WHY Phase Four ISN T THAT Terrible MY Goodness Some OF People GET On MY Nerves.

Most people are conformists and Hollywood knows it. The pathetic part of this discussion is that it ultimately leads to bad quality. Fans are quick to respond to greatness, as Top Gun 2 has demonstrated. But condoning bad writing just creates more bad writing.

He knows. He acknowledged that in a text box.

Well, Lucas as well - self-centered egomaniac who does not accept any advice or critisizm, so in the movies end up things like Yoda, C-3PO, JarJar, Ewoks, rough sand, and a ton of terrible dialogues and lines... When Episode 1 was critisized, he locked himself on some farm and cut of contacts like a sulking kid...

@@noldo3837 he sold Star Wars out of spite and people then say “Ew CaThLiNe KeNaDy MaNiPuLaTeD hIm”

The ability to forget and forgive is seemingly bullcrap to these grifters. I hope I'm wrong tho

The originals were groundbreaking

@@randywhite3947 To you and others, yes I suppose they are. For me, they were a fun afternoon. I'm not trying to diminish anyone's experience or devalue opinions. It's just to me, the entire Star Wars saga was equally fine. Original, Prequel and Sequel.

@@MardonNaLou you have to be insane not to recognize a new hopes impact

@@randywhite3947 okay. What’s the impact? story of good Vs evil? Chosen one story? Young orphan who is meant for more? Dungeons and Dragons in space? The money episode 4 made? Not denying that. What exactly are we talking about here?

Agreed.

If you think Ruin Johnson made his whole subversion porn movie to "please" the fans, you are out of your Mind.

@@Ixiah27 You can never please Star Wars fans. He continued the story in the way he thought was fitting. And yes, subverting expectations was one of the things he wanted/ needed to do, because if the story goes the way you expect it to go, well than it's pretty boring isn't it

What in the World are you talking about ? People are angry at the shit writing, how is that in any way Toxic ? And where do you get the idea the Movies are written like shit because they tried to please angry fans ? Has it ever occured to you that the critique against EP 7 was justified ? And instead of taking their time with Ep 8, they rushed out the next movie, because the conveyor belt media factory is on a Time limit. And instead of learning from that as well, EP 9 gets even worse. Demanding that your raw steak gets send back isnt "Toxic" Complaining about the steak that comes back and is a piece of charcoal is not toxic. Being the waiter and getting angry because apperently the Customer cant make up their mind what kind of steak they want, thats toxic.

@@Ixiah27 Well... I guess I agree with you. EP 7 was verry lazy and tried to 'save' Star Wars from the prequels by just copying the originals instead of making someting differant and new, someting that would take Star Wars in a whole new direction. And because Disney wanted to release these movies in december, they had to be rushed out. But I still think that Rian Johnson did a good job (not perfect) with The Last Jedi. There is a verry good video on RU-vid, I think it's called 'The Anti-Trilogy' that explains verry well how every movie tried to 'fix' the last one. And it also explains how The Last Jedi is the movie that George Lucas would have made, because it turns everything on it's head. With the prequels, George made Darth Vader, the most feared villain in Sci-fi, a horny teenager and turned Yoda, the wise and calm mentor into a cgi frog on steroids. At first fans hated it, but over time they grew to love George's dessisions. And what did Rian Johnson do...? He turned Luke, the forgiving, hopefull hero into a sad, defeated old man. What's the difference?? Why can't people, over time realise that this actually was a great way to continue the story?? Yes. These movies needed more time and needed to be planned out from the beginning. But I don't think we can blame Rian Johnson for trying to do something new and doing his best to make a compelling story out of a lazy cashgrab

What makes it worse is that there's a video hating this video and he basically explains why they hate everything further proving BHLs point

@@joec7217 It's sounds so unbelievable and stupid - that it must be true... 🙄

@@mickesmanymovies It is. And it's laughably annoying

Did you see all the Star Wars toys that existed before the Disney buyout? Have you forgotten the corporate tie-ins that Phantom Menace had (I still remember a pizza place giving a cup with a Jar Jar Binks top)? Star Wars was coorporitized *long* before Disney got their white gloved hands on it. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate reasons to hate Disney, but corporitizing Star Wars isn't one of them. And what do you mean "kick out the creator from the conversation of the series"? George Lucas *sold* the series. And if the people who like Star Wars are toxic as well, why is it that bigot terminology like "SJW" and unsupported accusations of Lucasfilm attacking fans and misogyny toward Kathleen Kennedy are things I only see from Star Wars haters?

@@adamdavis1648 The films are being corporitized, not the brand as a whole. Merchandise for star wars has always existed even in the IOUs that came out months after Star Wars 1977 because they knew toys wouldn't be ready in time. Merchandising has always existed, I'm referring to the fact even though Star Wars has always had a hold on merchandise section... it was never owned by conglomerate to market and sell. Also, i'm referring to the corporatisation of content made by Disney to pass off as entertainment. It's the glorified factory filmmaking and lack of care in the brand that gets to me. It was primarily owned by George Lucas. He owned the merchandising rights, he would lease the film rights to studio producers to get the prequels made and he did it under his finance. George Lucas selling the series doesn't alter history and make him any less the creator of the brand. In many cases Disney has constantly tried to bring him up and misquote him as a means to fit him under their narrative. If you read Bob Iger's book you'll know that George was only willing to sell the brand if he was promised the Pixar Treatment which would imply that he would still be making SW content just under the wing of Disney. Since that was something he was screwed on in the contract the buyout wasn't exactly genuine or on terms of the agreement since Iger simply rushed him into signing without specifying the terms of which he would be signing. Also, the '' Lucas sold the rights and so doesn't get to have any say as creator'' is disingenuous and short sighted. Usually just a lazy talking point by haters. It really just screams that you don't like George Lucas. He still has his say on what he disagrees with and is legally still considered the creator since he has to be legally credited on every Disney Star Wars piece of content. Your last bit is a complete strawman, buddy. Toxic Positivity is the case of being too positive on something that you choose to shun any ounce of negative criticism to a piece of content (which only displays fragility) which is equally extreme to your caricature of a said hater. Kathleen Kennedy is leading Lucasfilm as a whole and if her decisions cost her money, antagonise the fanbase and create friction with staff and viewer then she in every way should be criticised as leaders and corporate leaders should be. Are we forgetting Margaret Thatcher exists? We have every right to disagree on anything but to label it toxic because you feel bored by it means nothing since its human behaviour and sprouts the same way across politics, office, government and work. By the way (harsh truth) Life isn't fair by design. Buck Up.

@@chrisclarke4665 I guess I just don't see how pre-Disney Star Wars was any less corporatized than what we've gotten since the Disney buyout. I also don't recall ever claiming that Lucas selling Star Wars makes him any less the creator of the brand or that it means he shouldn't have any say. I just didn't understand how you could say he was "kicked out from the conversation of the series" because a sale sounds more like willingly walking out than being kicked out. If Iger tricked him into selling through false promises, then I stand corrected. What you describe as my "caricature" of haters is actually just a factual description of the toxic negativity that I've seen a lot of. I have yet to see much of the toxic positivity you speak of. Not sure what Margaret Thatcher or the unfairness of life has to do with this; that came out of left field.

@@adamdavis1648 George Lucas offered advice, they rejected it. And if you think theres not a lot of toxic positivity, just look up how many wanna be Critics gushed over the "Subversive" nature of Episode 8. Btw, who decides if a negative review is Toxic ?

@@Ixiah27 If the worst thing someone has done is guide the creation of movies you don't like and you act like she's an eeeeevilllll person instead of just a person who lacks storytelling talent, that's pretty toxic. I don't think the Trabsformers movies are particularly good, but I don't hate Michael Bay for making them. When I see that other people hate Kathleen Kennedy for the sequel trilogy, I don't know how to avoid concluding that it's definitely toxic and possibly misogynistic. And I don't see how it's toxic to enjoy the subversive nature of "The Last Jedi". I don't think it's toxic to dislike it, but the fact that you dislike it doesn't mean that liking it is toxic positivity. It just means that some critics have either different tastes than you and/or want something different from "Star Wars" than you do.

Alot of people hated episode 4 me included but im glad you enjoyed it :)

@@HugoHavoc Thankfully 5 was the best so far haha

You don't have to be miserable to criticize bad writing...

@@Clipzilla42 But the people who make videos about how evil Kathleen Kennedy is and how Star Wars is "ruined by SJWs" and how Lucasfilm must hate the fans......those people seem miserable and yet smug at the same time. It's not the fact that they're criticizing the writing, it's the fact that they seem to be bitterly spitting out criticism of both the writing and the writers while frothing at the mouth with crazed rage. They'd probably fail to the dark side pretty easily if they were force users.

@@adamdavis1648 Lol true, but there is a different and more insightful subset of SW critics as a whole; the people I’m thinking of make critiques that will stand the test of time. Although they might express frustration at the writers for their decisions, that’s as far as they go, aside from maybe a joke at their expense. There are RU-vidrs like Jay Exci and MauLer who make humorous critiques as well as remaining objective about the writing itself, and how it does or doesn’t function.