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Why do taxpayers pay billions for football stadiums? 

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Cities want football teams. Owners want stadiums.
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In the past 20 years, over $7 billion in public money has gone towards financing the construction and renovation of NFL football stadiums. Owners argue that public investment in private football franchises will bring a boom of economic activity to local economies. But this argument doesn’t hold up. In reality, stadiums and their upkeep wind up costing cities millions of dollars.
For owners, new stadiums mean more profits. They get to host the Super Bowl, sell naming rights to other corporations, and build increasingly opulent and expensive premium seating.
For cities, nabbing an itinerant football franchise looking for a new home field can be a big political win. And residents want teams and the hometown pride that comes with it. Football teams give cities a sense of identity and they are paying more than ever for them.
New stadiums aren’t the economic powerhouses owners promise they’ll be. But as long there are more cities that want a home team than there are franchises, it looks like taxpayers are going to keep footing the bill.
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@Vox
@Vox 6 лет назад
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@i.victorian1266
@i.victorian1266 6 лет назад
Make a video about DACA
@InfernoBlade64
@InfernoBlade64 6 лет назад
Vox greed
@complexreality6551
@complexreality6551 6 лет назад
It's only an opinión, I like your videos, maybe it's a problem of mine but that ASMR stile where you can hear all the sounds of the saliva of the narrator makes me uncomfortable and, un this case, made me stop watching de vídeo, it's only mi opinión but y Tell this to show my problem and if there is people who also has the same problem.
@limbeboy7
@limbeboy7 6 лет назад
Vox the most profitable sports league in the world? Have you heard of FIFA? 3 billion views each world cup? Common Vox
@Ash2theB
@Ash2theB 6 лет назад
Vox they building a stadium you guys mentioned in my neck of woods and this very eye opening. But not just going build a stadium. It will have hotels, casino, and a mall which city has never had one before. Our city has always paid higher taxes in the county. Also our mayor wants to bring the Clippers with an arena and the Forum is not happy.
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael 6 лет назад
It's weird how American sports teams have the option to just up and leave if they don't get their way and people just go along with it. If Manchester United just decided the city of Manchester wasn't throwing enough money their way and they moved to Birmingham or something instead, they would just lose 90% of their fans and Birmingham residents mostly wouldn't have any interest in supporting them, because why would you support a carpet bagging team with no connection to the city like that?
@feweqfwefwef9912
@feweqfwefwef9912 6 лет назад
Lol 😂 murrica is weird, just think Barcelona FC moving to some other city like Madrid, Madrid fans will sabotage the stadium construction
@SmugTomato
@SmugTomato 6 лет назад
The same thing happens in America however, (at least in the NFL's case) the number of fans means literally nothing as long as the area's market is good. Prime example being the former San Diego, currently Los Angeles Chargers. They play in a 30,000 seat stadium in a league where nearly all stadiums hold 60,000+ people. Couple that with the fact that the team itself is staggeringly mediocre and you'd assume they'd be losing money, right? Wrong. Turns out they're actually making a bigger profit playing in LA than San Diego. Yep, they lost all of their fans in San Diego and went to a city that literally doesn't want them, plus they're playing second fiddle to another team that's playing far better, and are crammed into a stadium with less than half of the attendance size of an average NFL stadium... and they're _still_ better off than before. Go figure that one out.
@kquals
@kquals 6 лет назад
Soccer, or world football, is completely different because every city has a team already, so there are no places for teams to move. But in the US, since there are more cities than teams, it is incredibly easy to move to a new city and get a new fanbase.
@lukeschroeder7600
@lukeschroeder7600 6 лет назад
Thats whats happend to the rams and chargers and soon the raiders
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ Krombopulos Michael: In short, because people have no shame or pride. If you replace “carpet bagging team” with “another woman” it would also explain why roughly half of all marriages in the U.S. end in divorce. No shame or pride.
@garlic6969
@garlic6969 6 лет назад
Here in San Diego, the Chargers wanted a new stadium paid for by the tax payers. It was put on the ballot where we citizens rejected another tax, wherefore rejecting the stadium. The owner got so offended by the notion, that his billion dollar franchise would have to pay for their own stadium, they then left the city all together. Football team owners are pathetic.
@SmugTomato
@SmugTomato 6 лет назад
Connor Jensen That saddest part about that situation is that the Chargers are still making a massive profit from moving to LA.
@plzfixwolves955
@plzfixwolves955 5 лет назад
Might want to add that mostly fans from other teams go to Chargers home games.
@jeffc1347
@jeffc1347 4 года назад
Thats literally why every team that has moved did it...going to happen with the Rays as well when their lease is over at Tropicana Field
@curtissharpe5775
@curtissharpe5775 4 года назад
I agree!!!!
@Bxu021
@Bxu021 4 года назад
Agree
@jaridkeen123
@jaridkeen123 4 года назад
We have 7 billion for sports stadiums that can build themselves but we dont have clean drinking water in some parts of america
@Beamer-ql3mx
@Beamer-ql3mx 3 года назад
One city in America isn’t responsible for another.
@jasonbourne6297
@jasonbourne6297 3 года назад
@@Beamer-ql3mx All patriotism goes out the window when you mention poverty.
@jasonbourne6297
@jasonbourne6297 3 года назад
@@Beamer-ql3mx All patriotism goes out the window when you mention poverty.
@CatWith-AHat
@CatWith-AHat 3 года назад
@@Beamer-ql3mx "One Nation"
@draneym2003
@draneym2003 3 года назад
@@Beamer-ql3mx Then next time Houston gets flooded out, don't beg for a blue state bailout.
@j0hnbr0ck
@j0hnbr0ck 6 лет назад
And then people have to pay to attend a game at the stadium they helped pay for
@Simpleplanqueen5
@Simpleplanqueen5 6 лет назад
John Brock.....And then locals couldn’t ride the light rail today in mpls because you could only ride if you has a superbowl ticket...even if i spent money to ride the lightrail 😤
@MissNayNay
@MissNayNay 6 лет назад
It's a rip off.
@maczetamaczeta189
@maczetamaczeta189 6 лет назад
Wow, look - same goes for crossing the bridges and highway tolls.
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ John Brock: I wonder if that is when people finally realize how stupid they were to fork over taxpayer’s money to build a rich owner a stadium the rich owner could have paid for himself...
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ Simpleplanqueen5: That is so wrong. The local government needs to be kicked out of office for such impotence...
@salokin3087
@salokin3087 6 лет назад
"Loved ones" *Shows pile of snacks* Seems legit
@NikhilSingh-mk9kc
@NikhilSingh-mk9kc 6 лет назад
YOU DON'T EAT YOUR LOVED ONES
@justint9916
@justint9916 6 лет назад
Yes, yes you do.
@bmw-jk2ks
@bmw-jk2ks 6 лет назад
Nikhil Singh why would you not?
@muhdmirza104
@muhdmirza104 6 лет назад
I love eating my loved ones, they are delicious.
@gabrielle.s1896
@gabrielle.s1896 6 лет назад
Salokin surrounded by loved ones (and wings. and pizza.)
@shoulders-of-giants
@shoulders-of-giants 6 лет назад
This is a scam. The people who run these stadiums make enough money already. They just want MORE MORE MORE for themselves.
@TytoSwift
@TytoSwift 6 лет назад
Bryson Williams because the money of the tax payer could go to much more useful things, like health and education and yet it is wasted on something which many Americans honestly don't give a damn about.
@MrXXX9009
@MrXXX9009 6 лет назад
Shoulders of Giants hey if you're smart, you use someone else's money to get richer
@swaggysack
@swaggysack 6 лет назад
Wow you're fun at party's
@Telleryn
@Telleryn 6 лет назад
It's never enough to make enough money, to make a lot of money or even to make the most money; they want to have ALL the money.
@whoozyyy
@whoozyyy 6 лет назад
Shoulders of Giants thats the fundamentals behind become a billionaire.
@swabby429
@swabby429 6 лет назад
We taxpayers subsidize these venues, yet most of us cannot afford the ticket prices to attend the games.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 6 лет назад
If the stadiums are selling out every week, then people obviously *can* afford it and/or see the value in going. Those that do go anyway.
@Zodak5D
@Zodak5D 2 года назад
@@MrHav1k What kind of fans can afford $6k a seat?
@BrisbaneBroncosfan67
@BrisbaneBroncosfan67 5 месяцев назад
@@Zodak5Dnot many, but when you have 320 million people in your country, inevitably some will.
@jaridkeen123
@jaridkeen123 6 лет назад
Tax payers shouldnt have to pay for these stadiums, if we do theb going to the games should be free
@MrGoodeats
@MrGoodeats 3 года назад
Its called bread and circus look into it....
@undyingforce
@undyingforce Месяц назад
Agreed. Just like visiting DC. Most of the culture there is free to see because the tax payers already paid for it.
@tcwarden758
@tcwarden758 6 лет назад
No taxpayers should pay for a stadium NFL should supply that Money period.
@donwald3436
@donwald3436 6 лет назад
Frank Dank That's not fair, team owners deserve to get something back for all the money give to the politicians. 😂
@nelswolf
@nelswolf 6 лет назад
Don Wald exactly we give them what they deserve. DEATH
@zo62
@zo62 6 лет назад
Frank Dank unless we get profit
@johnsanvictores6639
@johnsanvictores6639 6 лет назад
Use punctuation pls
@dudeman1939
@dudeman1939 6 лет назад
I don't agree with this, the Green Bay Packers are owned by the public in turn the public helps pay for a stadium. The public even voted yes to renovate the stadium.
@issaosama4937
@issaosama4937 6 лет назад
I love sports but not enough to contribute towards a stadium that won't contribute towards society. Tax should be going towards health care,safety,education or even supporting public sports "meaning Olympic teams and world sport representatives"
@sporttk4654
@sporttk4654 6 лет назад
issa osama Subscribe to my channel and thank you
@swapnadeepkapuri1589
@swapnadeepkapuri1589 6 лет назад
I hope they think otherwise.
@ChaosPod
@ChaosPod 6 лет назад
Speaking of the Olympics, countries had been pulling out of the 2024 Olympic bid until there were only 2 candidates left Paris and LA because hosting the Olympics normally results in a net loss. www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/2024-olympics-two-cities_us_58adee80e4b05ca474a03bc0
@LasTamislane
@LasTamislane 6 лет назад
It is kind of cute when you're naive. This is capitalism turning into cronyism at work.
@silverlopez3272
@silverlopez3272 6 лет назад
Isnt entertainment aa well to society
@joits
@joits 5 лет назад
so proud of San Diego for refusing to pay for a new stadium for the chargers. hopefully more cities will fully suit and insist the bilionaires have it privately funded.
@BillyBoy398
@BillyBoy398 6 лет назад
So youre telling my tax dollars are used for the dolphins to lose at home SMH
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ Banana Bill: No, luckily the local government was smart enough to not give money to Stephen Ross to renovate his stadium. But what Vox is telling you is that your tax dollars are used for Marlins to lose at home. SMH.
@alanthefisher
@alanthefisher 6 лет назад
But building a stadium in a city will bring plus 2 happiness for that city.
@awesomeguy9573
@awesomeguy9573 6 лет назад
Alan Fisher FPV English please
@--Paws--
@--Paws-- 6 лет назад
Is that a Sims reference?
@yousifalsaidi150
@yousifalsaidi150 6 лет назад
_Paws_ pretty sure it’s a civ 5 reference
@sonicpsycho13
@sonicpsycho13 6 лет назад
It's a Civilization reference.
@fancygouch9518
@fancygouch9518 6 лет назад
Is that a warcraft reference
@zeromailss
@zeromailss 6 лет назад
So, you're saying that it was built with tax money but the profits goes to someone else!? How is this fair!?
@EdeYOlorDSZs
@EdeYOlorDSZs 6 лет назад
MeowAlien にゃあエイリアン it isn't...
@TytoSwift
@TytoSwift 6 лет назад
Chaosesoteriker I hope you are being ironic.
@donotwatchthisvideo2
@donotwatchthisvideo2 6 лет назад
Charlie Scene lol You mean corporatisme If capitalisem was really implimeanted taxation wouldn't even exists
@itszaza5937
@itszaza5937 6 лет назад
Capitalism 101 a state exists to get capitalist class richer
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 6 лет назад
You should all understand that there’s nothing inherent to capitalism that causes tax payer funds to be profit for the very rich. That’s actually something we usually see in post-Marxist economies. It’s crony capitalism.
@QuartzHusky
@QuartzHusky 6 лет назад
This happens in pretty much every major sport in the US. Im not saying that exonerates the NFL though; it doesnt.
@Trevor_Leach
@Trevor_Leach 6 лет назад
Fjord Frost NFL stadiums are just the most expensive
@Ryan-qv9ed
@Ryan-qv9ed 6 лет назад
NFL stadiums are the biggest and provide least return on investment cause there's fewer games and less events than arenas or baseball stadiums
@EtanChamare
@EtanChamare 6 лет назад
If you want to take it further, pretty much every sport in the world is at least this corrupt. Even Sumo Wrestling, a sport based around honor, is insanely corrupt deep down.
@LtPeeWeeHerman
@LtPeeWeeHerman 6 лет назад
Mls doesn't
@flyboy2099
@flyboy2099 6 лет назад
Fjord Frost not MLB. Wrigley field is as beautiful as always.
@marlinmr7
@marlinmr7 6 лет назад
I refer back to the last day of marketing class in college so many years ago when the instructor told all of us to remember the following: "when marketing products and services in general - just remember that people are stupid and lazy by nature". We all thought he lost it but in thinking about it in many things - especially today - this now makes sense. In the beginning of this video there is mention of spending of public money on things the public enjoys and benefits from such as infrastructure, parks, etc. i.e. needs vs. wants plus $$ spent on infrastructure would involved the use of logic and intelligence which is just not acceptable (sarcastic). I also heard some mention of old stadiums coming down that were not even paid for so as to have new - bigger and better. Our overall fascination with debt and never getting out of it is catching up with us and this is just another part of it. Watched a guy yesterday purchase a new 75" TV because of the "big game" and he told me it was to replace a 55" less than 2 years old - back to what my marketing instructor stated on the last day of class.
@marlinmr7
@marlinmr7 6 лет назад
I do not condone or agree with violence or "killing" but defintely need to "wake up" and get priorites straight - back to "wants vs. needs". We do not "need" new stadiums just to help the millionaires/billionaires increase their networth. We do need decent roads, bridges, water & septic systems, affordable and decent healthcare for all; and a long term plan to elimate goverment debt but all of these things I just mentioned are way way to difficult and involve intelligence, logic and worst of all - "commo sense" (old school term) to solve. Anyone care to explain how a new Stadium anywhere and anytime paid for in any way by the public even begins to help solve any of the above problems/issues? Wants vs. needs.........
@marlinmr7
@marlinmr7 6 лет назад
True...... Sad but true......:-(
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 6 лет назад
"A fool and his money are soon parted."
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ MarlinMR7: Your marketing professor was ahead of his time. I’m just glad I (usually) don’t fall for those tricks. Marketing and advertising is a waste of money. If people weren’t so lazy and stupid, it would cease to exist.
@ImperialistKing
@ImperialistKing 5 лет назад
@@chengsio2639 People like to say they don't fall for their tricks but that's just ignorance. You most certainly have fallen for a marketing trick or ploy and just subconsciously didn't realize it.
@atlas-vista
@atlas-vista 6 лет назад
what a waste
@deleteme8774
@deleteme8774 6 лет назад
bread anf circuses
@thespeculator5206
@thespeculator5206 6 лет назад
Younes ZH this video?
@atlas-vista
@atlas-vista 6 лет назад
no the money
@melaniep4099
@melaniep4099 6 лет назад
I get that Mockingjay reference
@complimenting3046
@complimenting3046 6 лет назад
Exactly, “owners threaten to move their teams”, hahaha, who gives af. Provide no value to society.
@AdornedPheonix
@AdornedPheonix 6 лет назад
Indianapolis clearly doesn't want museums if they think it's spelt like that. 3:00
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 6 лет назад
“Spelled”. Spelt is a grain.
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 6 лет назад
spelt spɛlt past and past participle of spell
@omkarparopkari
@omkarparopkari 6 лет назад
Grimm wow.
@DogsBAwesome
@DogsBAwesome 6 лет назад
It's our language FFS, spelled sounds clumsy when there's a smaller and concise word to use instead.
@AdornedPheonix
@AdornedPheonix 6 лет назад
(I'm from the UK)
@lornaduwn
@lornaduwn 6 лет назад
It's actually a political practice. It was used in ancient Rome by building the Colosseum. If you keep the population distracted by amusement, they won't pay attention to politics and won't complain.
@lucianraphael9527
@lucianraphael9527 6 лет назад
Max Pieters Turned out well. Rome only fell due to extreme multi culturalism
@lornaduwn
@lornaduwn 6 лет назад
The reason Rome fell is because it overextended itself beyond its capability to support itself. High taxes were necessary to support the conquering armies. To appease the people they not only did such things as provide entertainment in the Colosseum, but instituted social welfare programs that increasingly grew in size. The result was less taxes being paid and an unsatisfied army. Rome was forced to hire mercenaries to defend their borders. When these Norse mercenaries weren't paid, they turned on Rome and sacked her for the payment they considered due to them.
@longclaw22-72
@longclaw22-72 6 лет назад
You don't know what you're talking about.
@Impetuss
@Impetuss 5 лет назад
Bread and circus. Keep people fed and entertained and they wont care about other problems
@DBPCINC
@DBPCINC 5 лет назад
@@maxpieters7934 Multiculturalism is mostly right, germanic tribes moved into their borders and gradually "changed" their way of living. There was no swift downfall to Rome per se, it happened over centuries, but the wars/turmoil definitely didn't help.
@cantbeleveitsnotnaru
@cantbeleveitsnotnaru 6 лет назад
What? The trickle down of money doesn't work?!? Shocking!! It's such bullshit that the team's can do this. Communities need this money!
@minecraftminertime
@minecraftminertime 6 лет назад
teams*
@megatrollificus
@megatrollificus 6 лет назад
But...but...they have STUDIES! And what the studies show is a trickle-down effect from the people commissioning the study into the pockets of the people DOING the study. And the "studies" ALWAYS show that making billionaires richer by giving them money from the public coffers will benefit somebody. Just not the citizens as a group. (This is why I taught my kids to always question news stories and articles supported by the claim "studies show", with nothing more specific than that.)
@brennanconway3728
@brennanconway3728 6 лет назад
This isn't trickle down... it's just crony capitalism. A stadium is essentially a giant handout/subsidy to a corporation. Trickle down economics deals with corporations that actually hire people with real jobs. This is actually an example of why a free market is essential... the government needs to stay out of the private sector and let the market function naturally
@HusseinDoha
@HusseinDoha 4 года назад
@@megatrollificus Dude, most of these stadiums do pay out on the long run (6-7 years after it were built). They do benefit the city. The stadium is there for the city to use when NFL games are not played. Concerts and gatherings occurs in it. The hotels, restaurants, even taxi folks benefit from it. This video doesn't show the revenue of cities who built these stadiums. It's a FACT-free And desired-conclusion driven video.
@fbyi2940
@fbyi2940 4 года назад
@@HusseinDoha borrow rich celebrities money, not the citizens
@bokc
@bokc 6 лет назад
I still don't understand how Atlanta justified the need for a new stadium. This is a classic example of the misuse of public funds - southern style.
@genericasian5699
@genericasian5699 6 лет назад
xoPeachGuac Falcons are never going to win anyway.
@jacks4920
@jacks4920 6 лет назад
We the public never got a choice in the matter
@princeoij
@princeoij 6 лет назад
It brought more development to the area.
@doittoit4116
@doittoit4116 6 лет назад
xoPeachGuac you should see what law enforcement does to rob people of their money in the south
@dionysues7449
@dionysues7449 6 лет назад
doit toit explain?
@neptuneconsus4992
@neptuneconsus4992 6 лет назад
You dont have public healthcare buy You have stadiums!
@donotwatchthisvideo2
@donotwatchthisvideo2 6 лет назад
Neptune Consus actually private health care would be even better if it wasn't for government regulations
@ThisguyQuake
@ThisguyQuake 6 лет назад
Superlumer 88 you’re an idiot
@bassman_0074
@bassman_0074 6 лет назад
ThisguyQuake please explain how you have a free market in healthcare. The way it is with insurance companies is : 1) I don't know what I'm paying until I get it 2) I'm paying with someone else's money 3) I have boatloads of paperwork and overhead in the insurance companies. Explain how that's anywhere close to a free market or consumer choice. I couldn't even decide what's cheapest if I wanted to because there's no price transparency.
@jacobloera4678
@jacobloera4678 6 лет назад
I love football but I still hate that this is a thing. Owners are already billionaires... they need to get over it and pay for it themselves if they really want to help the community.
@davidatwilliams
@davidatwilliams 6 лет назад
How do you think they became billionaires? They know how to make others pay for things Congratulations as an eagles fan I watched the game this year (I am from the UK it was amazing win) For the record we have some of the same issues in the UK the team I support Arsenal build a new stadium using their own resources but other teams are hawking stadia in London. It is not as bad as in the US since local authorities now cannot raise the type of funds to support such endevours
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ jacob loera: Those owners don’t want to help the community. That’s the sad part...
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ blackandgold51: Wrong. Gillette Stadium accepted $72 million in public funding for construction.
@KianDaneshi
@KianDaneshi 6 лет назад
As a Brit watching these videos about the U.S I always come to the same conclusion, the U.S is excessively capitalistic and corrupt.
@mozardthebest
@mozardthebest 6 лет назад
Kian Daneshi Because people like sports?
@doctorwhoarchive8755
@doctorwhoarchive8755 6 лет назад
It doesn't apply to the premier league because the club itself has to pay for a new stadium, the money doesn't from local community tax.
@mlc4495
@mlc4495 5 лет назад
Kim Boom Joong Clubs in the UK, and Europe for that matter pay for their own grounds.
@redbarn6160
@redbarn6160 5 лет назад
How is using public funds to subsidize private companies a capitalistic thing? That is literally the opposite of it.
@NonsenseFabricator
@NonsenseFabricator 5 лет назад
@@redbarn6160 Maybe in an Econ 101 textbook. But here in the real world, Capitalism can't survive without government. Co-opting the government to funnel public money into corporate coffers is bog-standard Capitalism.
@notjustanyuser
@notjustanyuser 6 лет назад
Because tax payers have no say where the money would be spent
@jorgeacosta9051
@jorgeacosta9051 6 лет назад
Asfakul Islam that’s not entirely correct. I’m not sure if you watch soccer, but in Miami there is an ownership group trying to get a stadium built, and this has been delayed for years because the people that live in the city the stadium will be built in have been protesting. Even though the ownership group was awarded a team, the mayor has made it clear that the stadium site is not said and done. The locals have continued to protest, and it’s understandable why. This is not the first time locals have prevented a sports stadium from getting built.
@Jim-ye4gv
@Jim-ye4gv 6 лет назад
taxpayer's money is also paying their ludicrous salaries.
@Patrick_3751
@Patrick_3751 6 лет назад
So glad I live in San Diego where we gave the Chargers a giant middle finger when they wanted us to pay for a new stadium.
@joshuaperkings5155
@joshuaperkings5155 6 лет назад
American cities have some of the worst infrastructure yet we are wasting tax payer money for some worthless stadiums whose benefit only lasts a few days. Imagine if we spent that money rebuilding our broken bridges, highways and public utilities instead.
@aGOODparas1ght
@aGOODparas1ght 6 лет назад
please put a pop filter over the mic
@toxicvillain
@toxicvillain 6 лет назад
You're a pop filter.
@chellysworld89
@chellysworld89 5 лет назад
I did tear up a little when the Ga Dome came down. I graduated there and it wasn't anything wrong with it. And the fact they tore down churches to build a new stadium for the Falcons. THE FALCONS!!!! WHY???
@dmac7128
@dmac7128 5 лет назад
We truly live in the age of bread and circuses. History has a strange way of rhyming. People barely bat an eye when a sports franchise gets several hundred million dollars from a city to build a stadium. But they foam at the mouth when it comes to spending money to improve public education, build affordable housing, expand mass transit, fix bridges and roads and build other public infrastructure. Its as if Rome has returned.
@vilhelm6134
@vilhelm6134 6 лет назад
Finally a Vox video I can 100% agree with, as a Minnesotan who really didn’t like it when they built the second stadium in Minneapolis. At least the majority of the funding came from gambling - football and gambling go hand in hand in my mind, so it seems they payed for it themselves.
@mkbrangan
@mkbrangan 6 лет назад
I'm glad you liked the video. The new taxes cities create - like the gambling tax in MN or the hotel/restaurant/car rental taxes in Las Vegas are still diverting public money away from public works and investment and handing it to large private industries.
@offchance789
@offchance789 6 лет назад
Get corporate donations out of politics, the NFL buys city delegates for cheap only for tens of thousands.
@greedyd5524
@greedyd5524 6 лет назад
I will agree with it when Vox explains why they said Trump was wrong when he said the same thing
@crashburn2166
@crashburn2166 6 лет назад
So you don't care about all the revenue coming in to the city?
@tamilyaragimova5394
@tamilyaragimova5394 6 лет назад
William Pratt джжжжжоьт Ооооооо
@bebespeaks7827
@bebespeaks7827 6 лет назад
I don't like football. I like public parks, farmers markets, bowling alleys, shopping malls, grocery stores, 52 public libraries in my county and I visit at least 6 of them per month, and public transit. Oh my, things that the general public use every day 24/7/365, whereas only the highly devoted will go into o financial debt over Premium Football Game Tickets. I can go to a Mariner game and get one ticket for myself for $25, and spend another $35 on food/soda. Whether we lose or win, the money and time I spend at a baseball game is much more worth the cost than spending my tax dollars on an NFL stadium I'll never see in person.
@micosstar
@micosstar 6 лет назад
One day (one scenario), every single county (in the US) would be placed with at least one football stadium, and that eventually county's get into a point where small business fail. Only my opinion and my thoughts.
@ByztinBadger
@ByztinBadger 4 года назад
This is why I love the Packers. They’re publicly owned, non profit, and they’ll never move out of Green Bay.
@jackcarraway4707
@jackcarraway4707 2 года назад
The "publicly owned" thing is largely a misnomer.
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 2 года назад
And players will move out of green play and play for a better team and make way more money
@ranelgallardo7031
@ranelgallardo7031 6 лет назад
Politics and sports should be separate. This is the evidence they're not.
@kiribundi
@kiribundi 6 лет назад
We got the same problem in Quebec City, half financed by public money. The irony? The stadium doesn't even host an NHL team... smh
@katelynh5883
@katelynh5883 6 лет назад
Conrad McDougall Oh shut up
@freddylubin
@freddylubin 6 лет назад
I find it hard to believe (well, not really) that the great city of Quebec has no NHL team, while Phoenix, Miami, and Nashville do.
@CT-cl9wi
@CT-cl9wi 6 лет назад
Ooo public funded stadium, so the tickets are free right?
@nubuki521
@nubuki521 6 лет назад
Chris Toh yeah cause the 800,000 employees don’t need to be paid
@CT-cl9wi
@CT-cl9wi 6 лет назад
Nutterbutter Kid from the billions they save no?
@Reapgamer
@Reapgamer 6 лет назад
D: so our tax money goes to a stadium and we don't get to go and watch for free?
@destinfrost4777
@destinfrost4777 2 года назад
In Henderson County they just spent 6.9 mill on a football stadium instead of the schools who barely have enough money to pay their staff.
@jamesburgess2k
@jamesburgess2k 6 лет назад
John Oliver made an amazing video on this topic as well. Definitely check it out if you're wondering how these teams get away with stuff like this.
@gusrandle4270
@gusrandle4270 6 лет назад
Literally thinking about that video during this one
@nakenmil
@nakenmil 6 лет назад
Yeah, for a moment I thought Vox had already done this video before, until I remembered it was Oliver.
@hannahwolken7022
@hannahwolken7022 6 лет назад
Agreed! Here’s the video for people who haven’t watched it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xcwJt4bcnXs.html
@glossygloss472
@glossygloss472 6 лет назад
He was talking about soccer stadiums though.
@tonymcdonald3532
@tonymcdonald3532 6 лет назад
sign this petition to stop spending tax money on football stadiums!: petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-spending-taxpayer-dollars-nfl-stadiums
@jasonir8474
@jasonir8474 6 лет назад
This Channel asking the real questions
@kevins797
@kevins797 6 лет назад
I'M PAYING TAXES FOR THIS BUT STILL HAVE TO PLAY FROGGER: POTHOLE EDITION ON OUR HIGHWAY SYSTEM!!! DAFUQ!!!
@IsraelCube
@IsraelCube 4 года назад
In Minnesota’s defense, the Metrodome which is what we just replaced was having costly repairs being needed for the roof as it kept breaking due to heavy snow buildup. That and there were also safety concerns iirc and those two issues culminated in needing a replacement stadium.
@creepystares9853
@creepystares9853 6 лет назад
Take that 7B away from the NFL, apply it to the infrastructure, and we start dealing with the problem our aging infrastructure is.
@bored0886
@bored0886 6 лет назад
Creepy Stares then what will people do for outlets
@samuelcarter6645
@samuelcarter6645 6 лет назад
thank god my state has enough common sense not to be on any of those lists
@Jsmoove8k
@Jsmoove8k 6 лет назад
Samuel Carter I hope you don't live in an a state that no one ever talks about because maybe that's why
@CyclingSJH
@CyclingSJH 6 лет назад
Because we worship sports. It's a great way to avoid the realities of life. Double edged sword.
@pwcorgi2000
@pwcorgi2000 6 лет назад
CyclingSJH No Everybody, including me.
@Typhoon792
@Typhoon792 6 лет назад
Not double edge. Just one: retardation of the sort a child can understand. Sports are for people who like taking it in the ass by society and need a place to take their anger out by watching monkeys collide against each other while throwing around an object.
@Typhoon792
@Typhoon792 6 лет назад
Galvahnize Sports DO NOT unify the world, at least not in any good way (if we were to name something like the Olympics). What you're describing is just a mutual activity you share with friends while hanging out. Nothing wrong with that but also completely irrelevant and nothing to do with the bigger picture.
@chengsio2639
@chengsio2639 5 лет назад
@ CoffeeMed: No, it’s not a double edged sword. I love my sports, but the people don’t have to be stupid about it.
@user-jk4mt1jd1r
@user-jk4mt1jd1r 2 месяца назад
The realities of life... Nfl is a waste of a good life, try going outside and do outdoor activities rather spend all your time and money watching this garbage
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 2 года назад
If I pay taxes to fund your project and you don’t want to invest a single dollar for the team that you own, you’re greedy. But you get to keep the profits. I can’t stand these people
@jamesburgess2k
@jamesburgess2k 6 лет назад
They built that new stadium to replace the Georgia Dome, just be in the race to get a bid to host a super bowl. And the super bowl tourism is a big driving force, to persuade cities that they will "see a return". But usually they will most likely only get to host ONE super bowl, which definitely won't make up for the lost of money. And the Georgia dome was a fine stadium, it just wasn't one of those "new era stadiums" that the NFL is pushing owners to make if they want to host. Considering that Atlanta fans aren't the strongest/diehard in any sport, this will be a bad investment for the city. It should be mandatory that the franchise uses the tax money as a loan, which must be paid back *directly,* instead of a hand out to a team owned by a billionaire.
@3rdninches
@3rdninches 6 лет назад
Well said
@drewp896
@drewp896 6 лет назад
On top of that, the new stadium was built less than 100 feet from the old dome. You can see it in the thumbnail and at 3:41
@jamesburgess2k
@jamesburgess2k 6 лет назад
Drew P they're gonna use it as a parking lot for the new one.
@dbclass2969
@dbclass2969 6 лет назад
James Burgess It was built with hotel tax money, which means Atlanta citizens didn't technically pay for it
@jamesburgess2k
@jamesburgess2k 6 лет назад
Demonta Barrino either way, that money was going to the city and could've been used on much better stuff to get a stable economic return. We won't see that money come back into our city for the next 10 or 15 years.
@mkontent
@mkontent 6 лет назад
I think you didn't emphasize enough that these stadiums would still make a profit if they were built with private funds. This is an important distinction. If these things were not profitable - it would make sense to subsidize them as long as residents say they need a team with a stadium. But they are profitable, which essentially moves this whole story into the area of businessmen practically stealing public funds.
@maninredhelm
@maninredhelm 6 лет назад
It's not the businessmen stealing. What happens is that smaller cities without NFL teams try to bribe existing teams to re-locate there by offering to build free stadiums for them. If you owned a business, would you turn down $500 million in assets for free? So then the city where the current team is located has to offer a competitive deal to convince the team to stay. This whole thing is entirely the fault of city governments that are willing to harm themselves in order to steal a business from another city. The business owner's only duty is to accept the deal that is best for the health of his business.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 6 лет назад
Have you considered that the fact that maybe a system where the best course for someone is to let money go away from infrastructure and schools is not in fact the best.
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 6 лет назад
To have a nice floor and to waste. I mean, what's wrong with the old one? There is a thing called UPGRADE
@calebstandley5814
@calebstandley5814 6 лет назад
Yeah as a person from San Diego I laughed when the chargers had one of their first game and there were more dolphins fans than chargers fans in the stadium 😂
@biancacezara2427
@biancacezara2427 6 лет назад
The narrator voice is incredibly soothing omg
@architbhonsle7356
@architbhonsle7356 6 лет назад
Alicia Mn really?! That voice felt weird to me... I guess to each their to own
@victorsundin2057
@victorsundin2057 6 лет назад
Archit Bhonsle I agree, the voice is really strange and the audio is terrible
@EibeMandel
@EibeMandel 6 лет назад
I thought it's a TTS
@anatoleh1
@anatoleh1 6 лет назад
the voice is strange
@riyazuo
@riyazuo 6 лет назад
Archit Bhonsle yeah, she's everywhere
@solinvictus2811
@solinvictus2811 6 лет назад
So we spend billions on stadiums that generally host 8 games a year for 20 years? Logic?
@ferdinandfoch7816
@ferdinandfoch7816 6 лет назад
The state government of Minnesota required that the new stadium in Minneapolis be an indoor stadium to receive any public funding, so it can host other events year round.
@complimenting3046
@complimenting3046 6 лет назад
There is no logic. It is stealing taxpayer money.
@drakeusmaximus2459
@drakeusmaximus2459 6 лет назад
Monster truck events bruh
@jakeoht791
@jakeoht791 4 года назад
By technicality the Rams did have a publicly financed dome (We (Missouri) are still in debt paying off the old stadium until 2020 when the last payment is due). You can’t forget about STL’s one last offer either, the 1.1 billion dollar dome that would include 400 million in public funding. I know I am not alone on this but I am glad they are gone.
@D-FIANT415
@D-FIANT415 6 лет назад
And all these city's have BIG HOMLESS PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!
@GoofyToony
@GoofyToony 6 лет назад
I haven't watched a football game in years I would hate to have a stadium near me
@SirHenryMaximo
@SirHenryMaximo 6 лет назад
Same problem here in Brazil, especially when considering the 2014 FIFA World Cup or even the 2016 Summer Olympic Games. The graft was rampant during the constructions, and some of the stadiums were built in areas without relevant sports teams and are barely used at all.
@Nardiumms
@Nardiumms 6 лет назад
Thank you for helping to bring this to public awareness.
@geraldstephens6612
@geraldstephens6612 3 года назад
Reminds one of the time the owner took his NFL team out of one city in the middle of the night. The owner of a NFL team got a major wake-up call from the company that owns the stadium last year, causing the team owner to change plans about moving his team.
@mgs1398
@mgs1398 6 лет назад
As a Saints fan from New Orleans, that opening clip hurt, I'm offended😂
@frankpellow
@frankpellow 6 лет назад
did you spell Museum wrong? at 3.03
@TRUMP-lw1rq
@TRUMP-lw1rq 6 лет назад
Frank Pellow lol good catch
@hillaryhonde8425
@hillaryhonde8425 6 лет назад
Frank Pellow I thought it said Muslim at first lol
@nathanmeagher7869
@nathanmeagher7869 Год назад
Note for the Rams relocation back to Los Angeles in 2016: Stan Kroenke and the Rams organization was found to be negotiating in bad faith with the city of St. Louis and was forced to pay I think $1 billion to STL. Also SoFi Stadium is one of the few stadiums to be built with no public funding
@michaellyden2580
@michaellyden2580 6 лет назад
Just throwing this out there, but which Stadiums ARE making a positive economic impact on their local economies, and what are they doing differently?
@UrFavSoundTech
@UrFavSoundTech 5 лет назад
The superdome in New Orleans was just renovated in 2006, $234 in 2017 dollars, im not sure if private/public. Wrestlemania gave an economic impact to the area of $181 million to the prevous year's town (Orlando citrus bowl). Assuming at least the same. That would mean the renovations would almost have been "paid" for with 1 10 day event. Not just NFL/ sports use these stadiums, Concerts/Live events use them to. If just NFL games were played at these stadiums it would be horrible since it would only be used 8ish days out of the year.
@amosjsoma
@amosjsoma 6 лет назад
To say that a new stadium, or any stadium for that matter, will bring new money into the community is ridiculous. Take Dallas for instance. For that to be true, a very large number of fans who buy seats and attend games have to come from outside the Dallas Ft. Worth area for that to be true. Otherwise, the money spent at the stadium buy residents of the area is money that would have been spent elsewhere in the community if the team was not there. It's not new or outside money.
@TheAkashicTraveller
@TheAkashicTraveller 6 лет назад
Not even the olympics can make that work. Which I think Vox have done a video on before.
@complimenting3046
@complimenting3046 6 лет назад
Exactly, if that 7 billion dollars had been left to the consumer, it would generate way more economic growth. Consumers would be able to buy more stuff, and many of it would be long term, improving general quality of life. What does a nfl game get you? Joy, that has been brainwashed into you by nfl wealthy who bribe the media. Taxpayers hard earned money going into nfl pockets and generating unnecessary deadweight loss, what a joke!
@BankruptMonkey
@BankruptMonkey 6 лет назад
The most recent stadium built in DC for any sport was supposed to boost the local economy, but in the end they outsourced most of the labor to cheaper workers and companies outside of city limits so it just added traffic that hurt sales in local businesses but didn't actually support the city very much at all
@Zodak5D
@Zodak5D 2 года назад
That outsourcing should of been illegal or prohibited. City officials got their hands greased and the people were not vigilant.
@sanfordnews3815
@sanfordnews3815 5 лет назад
I appreciate you showing the Minneapolis miracle it meant a lot to me
@PokeTrevor
@PokeTrevor 6 лет назад
The stadiums can bring tourists for football alone, but also can be used for other things. For example the old charger stadium Qualcomm (now sdccu) is used for this event called race legal, and other cool events.
@dadam6900
@dadam6900 6 лет назад
New Orleans has been using the superdome since the 70s and even after Katrina is still being used, and loved by all. If New Orleans decided to rebuild a new stadium after Katrina, a piece of new orleans would be gone, and have a negative impact on the city.
@--Paws--
@--Paws-- 6 лет назад
What is being pointed out though is not every stadium have the same benefits as the others. Some states/cities have different uses for their stadiums and there are different people owning them which may take advantage of the public's money. Some stadiums are used by the public other than football games while others are just their for occasional use and does not provide enough for the community which was pointed out in the video. Some stadiums are just built to get money from the public while other infrastructures are neglected. Again, not every city/state are like this.
@addisone2678
@addisone2678 6 лет назад
Well if my money is going to be taken away from me anyways I’d rather I’d go to something I like and support such as football.
@sanfordnews3815
@sanfordnews3815 5 лет назад
I know this is a serious video but thank you for the intro the best one I’ve ever seen
@vt7828
@vt7828 2 года назад
Why should we pay? Between the salary of all owners, players, and investors- they can build their own freaking stadium. Since when did the NFL become a necessity? Overpriced parking, food, and drinks to top it all off. The simple answer is GREED. But hey, that answer is political enough…
@VaporwaveSunset
@VaporwaveSunset 6 лет назад
So my taxes are going to football stadiums? That sucks...
@noaha8267
@noaha8267 6 лет назад
I was never into football anyways. I find it ridiculous how much money, people, and industries are invested in watching a handful of wealthy sports players play a game. I know that it can be fun to watch, but the interest is WAY too bloated, this video is proof.
@spacewombat4569
@spacewombat4569 6 лет назад
I concur... now i'm ready to get mobbed. (9_9)
@infiltr80r
@infiltr80r 6 лет назад
Stupid peasants like worshiping stronger, wealthier people. Then they wonder why they are poor...
@summertime7651
@summertime7651 6 лет назад
Well, the players are wealthy because people enjoy watching them.
@megatrollificus
@megatrollificus 6 лет назад
It's a fascinating game. Each play is a collection of battles and adjustments and assignments and reads and reactions, each series of downs is like a little war, every game is like a great campaign...if you're interested in it and know a bit about it. Just a shame it's built on the backs and tax dollars of people who don't even care about it. That's corrupt, and it sucks.
@pbred5851
@pbred5851 3 года назад
Not even a play from the Super Bowl. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@lebronjames2224
@lebronjames2224 6 лет назад
The real question is why do quarterbacks always win Super Bowl MVP ?
@sodaking6858
@sodaking6858 6 лет назад
LeBron James not always but mostly they mostly win it because simply the Qb is the main man who throws touch down passes and passes the ball so someone can score a rushing touchdown point is usually the Qb wins the game overall + being the captain they usually get the credit for it there have been occasions where a Qb didn't win the MVP sure look at tom Brady he won the MVP 4 times and 5 Superbowl that means in one of those Superbowl he didn't win the MVP
@mustipunyaemail
@mustipunyaemail 6 лет назад
WE NEED STADIUMS TO DISTRACT THE POPULATION! & WASTED TAXPAYER MONEY!
@arturolinares6565
@arturolinares6565 6 лет назад
Why the Pentagon lost TRILLIONS of dollars?
@TheRealAmerica1776
@TheRealAmerica1776 6 лет назад
Probably some off book Darpa projects tbh
@allisondoak9425
@allisondoak9425 6 лет назад
I don’t live in America, but when my city funded a stadium they made sure that local government owns it and built it with all kinds of events in mind. It’s a little engine of economic development primarily and it’s working. These stadiums are built for one primary purpose and that’s the facilitation of NFL football. Why not build something where NFL football is possible but so are all kinds of events. We had a regional arts festival last weekend in ours which very nearly out paced every individual sports event hosted in terms of economic stimulus and attendees.
@emexdizzy
@emexdizzy 6 лет назад
This shouldn't be as surprising as it feels, the more I look into this, the more it makes me sad.
@blahber222
@blahber222 6 лет назад
“ M U S U E M S ”
@onkgopotsesibanyoni4281
@onkgopotsesibanyoni4281 6 лет назад
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."
@complimenting3046
@complimenting3046 6 лет назад
Onkgopotse Sibanyoni yeah, it’s important to stop using taxpayers hard earned money to build ...stadiums..
@ederavila9206
@ederavila9206 6 лет назад
That was said by Bill Shankly, a Liverpool FC coach. And i have news for you, he was talking about the other football. The one the world loves, LOL
@HistoryMarche
@HistoryMarche 6 лет назад
New low for the NFL imo. Great video.
@SM-ys8lw
@SM-ys8lw 3 года назад
it happened because art model was a terrible bisnuessman
@TheJonb64
@TheJonb64 6 лет назад
Really wish there was a little more depth particularly about publicly owned stadiums. For publicly owned stadiums Bengals vs 49ers. The 49ers stadium used significantly less public funding and was able to secure naming rights for 20-25 years worth double the public investment which goes back to the city of Santa Clara. Where the Bengals literally blew a ton of public money (county and state).
@ArtDocHound
@ArtDocHound 6 лет назад
Its such a dumb game. We need real civic infrastructure!
@rabichowdhury6358
@rabichowdhury6358 6 лет назад
ArtDocHound Even its name is dumb. The entirety of the game is played with hands, yet it is somehow called Football. The "ball" isn't even in the shape of a ball.
@pabloarranz3626
@pabloarranz3626 6 лет назад
Rabi Chowdhury learn a little about it's history and you'll understand why it's called football
@Coastfog
@Coastfog 6 лет назад
"Its such a dumb game. We need real civic infrastructure!" Wow, what a stupid argument... Your opinion on football as a sport has nothing to do with whether or not new stadiums should be built, be it with private or public money. Would you also say that if there was a proven benefit for the cities? And why do you imply that building a new stadium is mutually exclusive with building and maintaining decent infrastructure? Sure, the latter is much more important, but it's not impossible to have both, is it? I love the sport but I find the "relocation-blackmail" and "trickle-down-BS" awful, too. The teams should build their own crap if they want a shiny new stadium that doesn't really provide a benefit for the city beyond the team. If they can't afford it - tough luck, right?
@angelbianchi8580
@angelbianchi8580 6 лет назад
ArtDocHound nah football is pretty cool
@glossygloss472
@glossygloss472 6 лет назад
Rabi Chowdhury You actually kick the ball in the game.
@Chadwickyboy
@Chadwickyboy 6 лет назад
because our society has its priorities completely backwards. Why do people even pay the money they do to watch games at these stadiums? A football game isn't nearly entertaining enough to pay a hundred dollars to watch, even if the cold bleachers were replaced with massage chairs and the "beer" were replaced with actual beer (watered down BL isn't beer, folks).
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 6 лет назад
Chad Sweeney Opinion.
@dannyp2970
@dannyp2970 6 лет назад
Ike Sweeney Opinion.
@Chadwickyboy
@Chadwickyboy 6 лет назад
Ike Okereke you think stadiums charge fair prices for what they offer? Lol you've got to be kidding.
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 6 лет назад
Chad Sweeney People really like things.
@Paul-fp3qn
@Paul-fp3qn 6 лет назад
Chad Sweeney Because people have hobbys and like to be entertained.. its fun to go to football games, and it has a great atmosphere. Just because you have different ideas of fun doesn't make the others wrong. Stop with the bias.
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster Год назад
As much as I love the new Mercedes Benz Stadium, it’s sad to see the Georgia Dome be demolished as it’s such an iconic building
@Nonplused
@Nonplused 6 лет назад
They are trying to do that in Calgary right now. They want to replace both the Saddle Dome and McMahon stadium with new side by side facilities and they aren't even proposing much in the way of new seating. In fact if they wanted to hold the Grey Cup, which can accommodate scaffold seating and increase seating by 30% that way, they'd have to go back to McMahon because the new proposal won't allow for it. The only thing that has to be done for the Saddle Dome and McMahon is they need more washrooms. I am certain that won't cost a billion dollars. They both have plenty of places to put them. McMahon there is plenty of places to put "washroom buildings" at ground level or just use porta-potties, at the Saddle Dome there is a largely unused outdoor concourse that could also be redone to accommodate a lot of washrooms or porta-potties. Neither team hardly ever sells out, so more seating isn't necessary. And they have got on the food thing so you won't miss a play trying to get a beer or a burger. They want to spend a billion of tax payer money to put in washrooms where there is already plenty of room to put in more washrooms for much less.
@jamesmeza8432
@jamesmeza8432 6 лет назад
That last video shot was from Cincinnati
@barakakautsarsofiuddin9288
@barakakautsarsofiuddin9288 6 лет назад
am I​ the only one who watches the Superbowl only for the half-time shows?
@163reasonswhyrealestateage4
@163reasonswhyrealestateage4 6 лет назад
You are absolutely correct when you point out that building new stadiums with public money isn't the only issue here. The emotional need of communities to have an NFL franchise, which hopefully turns out to be a winner, is a powerful force. Now lets go watch Super Bowl 52 today!
@sirarchibaldvontaternutsth4430
I live in a football city and I hate that the stadium is publicly funded. When everything is all payed off and our taxes are about to go back down the politicians and other city management always get together and try and keep the tax so it can be used for something else. Fact is we should have never had it in the first place.
@marc07112
@marc07112 6 лет назад
If they are so good why don't the build them in touch areas like Beverley hills and Bergen county?
@32Rats
@32Rats 6 лет назад
marc07112 because parking space is needed, people in those neighborhoods wouldn't want that many people flooding in, they arent ideal locations to fill the seats, and those are less likely to give the economy any type of boom than if it was in a less residential down town area. I actually dont know why your trying to argue that because it doesnt make any real sense, beverly hills isnt rich because of opportunitys in the area, its rich because of its reputation of rich people so more rich people flock to it and poorer people cant afford it
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 6 лет назад
Same thing with the Olympics.
@doittoit4116
@doittoit4116 6 лет назад
Did anyone else chose not to watch the stupid bowl last night?
@thublit
@thublit 6 лет назад
doit toit jt pulled off a grrrrreat halftime show hands down best ever
@solofunk
@solofunk 6 лет назад
Yup. I wrote a paper on this last year, had the same findings and points you guys made.
@tracey6299
@tracey6299 6 лет назад
Go watch the John Oliver one
@tracey6299
@tracey6299 6 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xcwJt4bcnXs.html
@kens962
@kens962 6 лет назад
Why THANK YOU!!! For providing the link, I was just thinking “where’s the link?”
@jamouson
@jamouson 6 лет назад
Musuems
@georgemullens
@georgemullens 6 лет назад
I think this whole situation is insane. In the Barclays Premier League this simply does not happen at all!
@DStyles2345
@DStyles2345 4 года назад
This is why I stopped paying taxes and will never pay again.
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