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Why Do We Play Games We Hate?

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What game is this for you? “I hate this game so much…” proceeds to play for hours It seems we all have at least one title that we simply cannot pull ourselves away from despite our distaste for it. Maybe it’s that you have to prove something to yourself about that game, maybe it’s that you have to prove a point to someone else. Maybe it’s that you just want to understand the buzz and maybe… it’s because you feel like you’ve sunk too much time into it to walk away. Whatever the case is, you probably have a game like this in your life and today, we’re gonna talk about why exactly that is.
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A Financial Black Hole (0:00)
Chasing A Feeling (2:18)
The Hate Makes You Stronger (4:05)
In Too Deep (8:54)
You Want Me To Do What Now? (11:39)
Old Married Couple (14:56)
When Do We Know It's Time? (17:13)
Important Post-Credit Scene (19:20)
▶Games Shown
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (2023)
Portal (2007)
Persona 4 Golden (2012)
Elden Ring (2022)
Dark Souls (2011)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2006)
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (2002)
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (2011)
Outer Wilds (2019)
God of War (2018)
Final Fantasy VII Remake (2020)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017)
NieR:Automata (2017)
Hollow Knight (2017)
Death's Door (2021)
Final Fantasy X (2001)
Super Smash Bros: Ultimate (2018)
Celeste (2018)
Guilty Gear Strive (2021)
Street Fighter 6 (2023)
Genshin Impact (2020)
Honkai: Star Rail (2023)
Dishonored 2 (2016)
Prey (2017)
Xenoblade Chronicles (2010)
Octopath Traveler (2018)
Jump King (2019)
Deltarune Chapter 2 (2021)
And WAY WAY more… tbh I went overboard with this one lol. Ask below with a timestamp if you need and I can try to reply.
▶Movies/TV/Anime Shown
Suits
Tom and Jerry
Spongebob Squarepants
Avengers Endgame
Dragonball Z
Whiplash
Popeyes commercial (call me Popeyes)
▶Media/Clips/Considerations:
• Playing what we hate
▶Music Sources (in Order):
Anxiety And Unease - Dragon Ball Z Kai OST
Sea...Sea...Sea... DX - Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions OST
Play a Little? (Plaza at Dawn) - Melty Blood: Type Lumina OST
Hornet - Hollow Knight OST
Shibuya Survivor [Instrumental] - NEO: The World Ends With You OST
Killing Moon - Street Fighter 3 Third Strike OST
Checking In - Celeste OST
Detective Pennington - Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door OST
Aquarium Park (Act 1) - Sonic Colors OST
Investigation - Astral Chain OST
Temple of Time - The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom OST
Tenno - Komorebi
- Provided by Lofi Records
- Watch: • Tenno - Komorebi
- Download/Stream: fanlink.to/The...
▶Research Sources
Why we binge-watch stuff we hate
mashable.com/a...
Understanding Conformity: Normative Vs. Informational Social Influence
www.simplypsyc....
The sunk cost and Concorde effects: Are humans less rational than lower animals?
psycnet.apa.or...
“I do not know what I want” Chrome Extension lol
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informational influence
dictionary.apa...
Did British Airways Make A Profit Flying Concorde?
simpleflying.c....
Concorde Fallacy: How to Avoid Making Decisions Like A Losing Gambler
fronterablog.c....
Why do people force themselves to play games they hate?
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Why do you keep playing a game you hate so much?
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@HANAKIW1 Год назад

"I hope you love hating it." This hits different. To me this is not an encouragement to negativity but of persistence.

@Phoeboi Год назад

This is the exact reason I love rage games

@SonnyFRST Год назад

Would've lost my sanity ages ago if hate-sink games weren't a thing...

@trashaimgamer7822 Год назад

The CoD community in a nutshell.

@stormy_does_stuff Год назад

@@trashaimgamer7822 I thought your comment said GD for a second and I was like "wow this hits close to home" Then I remembered I haven't played GD for like 2 or 3 years

@rumplstiltztinkerstein Год назад

That depends. I hated playing League. So I'm glad I stopped. I rage when I forget something silly and get one shot in Elden Ring. But overall, I have a great time playing it.

@UsernameyMcUsernameFace Год назад

I've seen Souls games being aptly described as "revenge simulators". You develop a relationship of sorts with the bosses, and the satisfaction comes from toppling a foe that caused you so much frustration and anguish.

@leithaziz2716 Год назад

To me, the satisfaction is felt as long as the process of fighting those bosses feels engaging enough that beating them feels like a sign of improvment. If I'm dealing with a fight I don't enjoy, sometimes I don't feel satisfaction when I win and the feeling is moreso "thank goodness it's over". When I was fighting Malenia in Elden Ring over and over again, I just wanted to be done with the fight and call it a day. I guess the only reason I didn't give up is so that I don't have to think about doing it again. Mind you, this is isn't the common reaction to a boss. I usually really enjoy overcoming bosses in these games. Artorias, Nameless King, Sister Fride, Midir, Gael, Genichiro and Isshin. Those are just a few example of fights I felt proud of overcoming. Admittedly, my feelings with Elden Ring bosses were overall more negative in comparison to past games, since I often felt like I couldn't play with most of my builds without making things extremely tedious due to the agression and damage of bosses. VG Matthew's boss critique video on Elden Ring does a good job of explaining what I'm alluding to. So I am worried that Fromsoft will try to keep their games harder and harder to the point that the feeling of satisfaction starts being replaced by "I hope I never have to do this again".

@UsernameyMcUsernameFace Год назад

@@leithaziz2716 Completely agree. When the feeling is "thank goodness it's over", usually that's a sign that something's gone wrong. I suppose it's about striking a balance between having it be a challenge while making sure it's still engaging/fun. I think one reason the souls games have gained so much popularity is because they seem to hit the sweet spot more often than not. From my own experience, a lot of that comes down to player agency. I'm much more likely to enjoy an 11/10 difficulty fight where I can tell clearly that the deaths are my fault than a 9/10 difficulty fight that feels like it's full of cheap shots, poor balancing, bad RNG, etc. As you put it, beating a boss should feel like a sign of improvement. If I feel like I beat an unfair boss just by being lucky, that doesn't do much for me.

@BambooRonin Год назад

@@UsernameyMcUsernameFacecouldn’t agree more.

@DarylTalksGames Год назад

“Revenge Simulator” is absolute poetry.

@ForeverMasterless Год назад

@@leithaziz2716 Yeah I did not enjoy that fight. Can't put my finger on why but Isshin and demon of hatred in sekiro took me about the same amount of time to beat as malenia did (6-ish hours), but I enjoyed them SO much more, I was not frustrated at all.

@drewt1717 Год назад

I'm an old gamer.. literally. 50 years old. So I've experienced each scenario described here dozens of times. For me, I've been learning (through horribly unpleasant consequences) that when I feel angry about a game, it is often a reflection of other, larger issues that need to be faced, and continuing to play the game is likely going to result in further unpleasant consequences. Time to stop playing and deal with the other issues. If I don't stop, then it's likely I'm addicted and it's harming me.

@jacobaldrich8604 Год назад

Well said! I've found that the frustration can be not with the game, but the tension that comes from feeling obligated to play it. Sometimes it's aboit doing something else that you plain and simply prefer to sp instead of playing. Sometimes that's another game. Sometimes it's a walk in the park or cooking a nice meal.

@shmyeah Год назад

when he added we might dislike a competitive game because losing this is what i thought of. i dont mind losing. i dislike when an annoying mechanic in the game(loveable quirk or otherwise) is sufferable and annoying. the good part of the game that i enjoy keep me in it, i just wish the shitty parts could be retrospectively removed

@riveteye93 Год назад

Very based

@MikaTuukkanen Год назад

I have noticed the same, but for some reson it only became obvious after reading your comment. Sometimes I play games to sooth off some stress of other parts of life. And sometimes it goes well. But if I perform my escaping in a game that may have frustrating bits involved, I just become angry and more stressed, making the issue worse. It is imprortant to perform escapism with a clear mind and full focus so that escapism can reach the wanted result of unwinding the stress.

@luvhair255 Год назад

I'm only 32 but I've luckily learned this as well. There's making progress and challenging yourself, and there's self-harm and dopamine-chasing. I've had to do dopamine cleanses and take myself away from certain games before and it helped me really understand that.

@Kuriboi1 Год назад

I feel like another option that wasn't mentioned but is super powerful imo would be: if you're playing a game trying to recapture the magic of the first playthrough, but can't help but see its growing flaws over time while your nostalgia fades away, missing that forgotten feeling of playing the perfect game for the first time, why not try to **make** one? It's the most influential turning-point to any fan of any art form; the moment you've consumed many games and begin to feel a feeling that there's a game that's missing (but doesn't exist, yet), or you begin to see the flaws of your favorite games and begin to wonder or think of ways it can be fixed or improved, you've just begun the privilege of hearing the artist's calling for the first time. Those who follow the artist's calling begin the amazing journey of creation, transitioning from a consumer to a producer, fueled by the passion of giving back to their communities or the game genres they love. That calling is the reason why people get inspired to create their dream games, which could inspire others after them to create their dream games, and the beautiful cycle of creation repeats on and on. I've been thinking of getting into gamedev myself someday, inspired by games and wanting to tell stories myself. For example, a game that really inspires me would be the Kingdom Hearts series , but I don't need to tell you how jarringly flawed it's convoluted plot can be; despite that, due to how much the games get right, I can't help but think if there was a game that captures the magic of Kingdom Hearts but nails the story. While I'm unable to make a game with a scope anywhere near that of Kingdom Hearts anytime soon, the inspiration of creation that I get from playing them gives me hope that I may make something amazing like it someday in the future. Regardless, I think the option of moving from a consumer of games to a producer is a powerful option and shouldn't be undemrined, giving back to the games/genres you love through inspiration and passion, possibly inspiring others to create their dream games in the process too.

@uraynuke 10 месяцев назад

@@SashraanMusic oh my, THAT is what CGI stands for?!

@bustoo 6 месяцев назад

I felt that call strongly enough to act on it after playing outer wilds and paradise killer. Mostly because there is a very limited amount of truly amazing mystery/exploring games, and the magic is all gone after your first play through. I doubt I'll make a game of that caliber, but if I can give just a little bit of that feeling to others, it's so worth it.

@oo8962 6 месяцев назад

How do you produce a game? I had no prior knowledge in game design, coding or anything tech related.

@angel_of_rust 5 месяцев назад

when pocket pair did it the Poketarded fanbase were seething

@NeptorKriegor 5 месяцев назад

yeah that is *exactly* why I've been learning to develop a platformer game on Unity. I love Sonic games so much but every single one of them is flawed in one way or another, even the classics. I've strong sense of what exactly I hate about them, and how I could improve upon the gameplay formula for those kinds of games

@doorbox788 Год назад

daryl has a real talent for causing me to have an existential crisis about how i spend my time sitting in a chair staring at a screen while moving my thumbs

@alejjtheninja5803 Год назад

... oh shit

@rehab_herr Год назад

3.5k hours of my life I won't get back

@Ares_gaming_117 Год назад

Whats important about gaming is not whats going on in the body, or in the physical space, but what is going on in the mind. I have no regrets.

@rehab_herr Год назад

@@Ares_gaming_117 It was fun, but I think I could have spent my time better than grinding tf2.

@Ares_gaming_117 Год назад

@@rehab_herr sorry you have that regret, but we usually do whats most fun for us at the time. All you can do is just look back and laugh at how younger you got your kicks. And if thats still you, you can adjust accordingly.

@Alufear Год назад

I've adopted an operating procedure that I like to call "The Pantheon Rule", which is basically, if you realize that doing something optional is going to make you hate something you love, don't do it. The rule is a direct reference to Hollow Knight's Pantheon challenges. They are these long boss rushes that can feature the entire boss cast, including new ones exclusive to the challenges. I quickly came to the determination that doing these grueling challenges, where failure meant starting all over again and wasting hours of time, would make me hate a game I loved. So I didn't, and I've never regretted it.

@pillowmint4622 Год назад

that's a really good philosophy. basically, "only 100% a game if the process is going to be fun. otherwise, just complete it up to the percentage where it's still fun". thanks!

@SkywardShoe Год назад

Yup, I did the first two pantheons, failed the third, said "well that's enough of that" and moved on. The completionist part of my brain is a little annoyed about it still, but I'm aware enough of my own skill and patience to know that I would despise trying to finish them, and that even if I did the excitement at the end would not be worth the hassle.

@CreatrixTiara Год назад

That's a good way to put it! I have similar with Octopath Traveller - I LOVED both games, but I'm mainly in it for the stories and side quests. I don't need to do the extra hard bonus bosses - I can always catch up online if I want to know what happens.

@leithaziz2716 Год назад

I think I ran into this with Dead Cells' highest difficulties that locked the secret final boss behind it. Aside from adding new mechanics that changed the experience as a whole, it boosted enemy spawn rate, damage and health. It made things extremely stressful as you basically had to play optimally for a decent chance at beating it. I felt like I accidently made myself enjoy the game less just cause I wanted to see everything it had to offer. At least the secret boss was fun. With Hollow Knight, I gave up at the 5th pantheon since a single run was too time consuming to keep retrying.

@chloemchll3774 Год назад

I had a similar experience w HK. Love the main game. Beaten it many times. Love the idea of the Pantheons. Couldn’t get past P3 and decided I didn’t need to since it isn’t like it actually changes anything in the story.

@SkylightCiel Год назад

This video made me delete Overwatch 2

@daskartoffel5505 Год назад

There's been many times in my life that i've stopped playing a game, usually due to storage space issues. I'm the type who likes to stick to games for long periods of time and become sentimental about my experiences with them, so stopping a game can be quite painful, especially when you have that one (or few) characters who were with you throughout the game. It feels like giving up a part of my life, something i grew up with. As someone who never really had pictures of himself when younger, this caused me to start taking screenshots of a game before quitting it, forming a little picture album of my fondest memories in games. Feels a little weird to think about it, but i feel it goes to show up for many of us nowadays, games are not just some addiction, an escape from life, but rather a part of it. The lessons we learn, the experiences we gain, the friends we make, games mean a lot to us

@koukaakiva Год назад

Internalizing what I felt was the "moral" of Undertale really helped me with this. After it, I was okay with quitting a game I felt I wasn't enjoying, or leaving parts of it unexplored, or not 100%-ing a game.

@nathanlevesque7812 Год назад

After my run I just realized that it wanted me to hate it and I said 'okay I kinda do'.

@404_nowheresnotfound3 Год назад

@@nathanlevesque7812what do you mean?

@thatboyakira4202 Год назад

@@404_nowheresnotfound3 that he hated it.

@Inverse_to_Chaos 10 месяцев назад

8:56 Games aside, I’ve fallen victim to sunk cost in school and college, and it has only been months since I discovered the consequences of academically pushing myself without stopping. I was determined to move forward by setting nearly everything else in my life aside just to leave with a degree, and the stale workload felt exhausting. I’m still recovering from my mental crash, and I surely needed this vid. Many thanks! Great vid, great discussion, great edits, and great job acknowledging us mobile viewers at 3:47! :-)

@HemmiezRS Год назад

the talent daryl has for evoking emotions during his ending sequences is so underrated, and man it's the perfect cherry on top for video essays like this. also very audibly excited to see the oshi no ko teaser at the end of the video

@Lewdology Год назад

Showing Nioh, maining Cammy, rolling on Eula, Daryl is an incredibly cultured personage.

@Roboardo Год назад

Unfathomably based

@icarustar2457 Год назад

You don't get less cultured than playing genshin

@proggz39 Год назад

@@icarustar2457*more

@atan8986 Год назад

Don't forget his GGST main being Millia Rage.

@Player-er5pk Год назад

@@icarustar2457 you have an anime pfp i don't think we can make fun of Genshin fans.

@dyrr836 Год назад

Damn, I've actually been replaying a game I used to love over 15 years ago and finding myself still loving it just as much, if not more. Not only am I smiling with anticipation at all the fun parts I remember, but my more experienced brain picks up on new things to appreciate. Obviously you can never experience that mythical first playthrough all over again, but a repeat one can still be as fulfilling in its own unique wa y.

@icefox4074 Год назад

I just wanted to write a similar comment, I'm playing Arkham Asylum again after almost 10 years. Obviously I know the plot but it's so enjoyable, I keep looking around at every corner for small details. Now that I properly understand english it may be even better than the first time.

@leithaziz2716 Год назад

That's me whenever I replay Hollow Knight after giving myself a long break away from it. I'm at awe at how much cool stuff, mechanics, wonderfull NPCs and compelling worldbuilding there is that you take for granted when you play the game a lot. Sekiro gives me simillar feelings when I replay it and remember how excellent the pacing and combat is. These games aren't that old, but it's the closest examples for me.

@denisdelinger3265 Год назад

@@icefox4074I love the arkham games. The key is not overdoing it, and personally i don't understand why tf people replay something all the time It has to be after a long time away from it, when the experience is "new but familiar".

@spacebassist Год назад

@@denisdelinger3265I have a similar attitude to movies, I feel like I still remember the highlights and the experience still feels "fresh" (can't think of a better word) for years. I'm still not in the mood to watch Scarface for the third time and that was back in 2020 Same for games obviously but I just felt like sharing since people can re-watch movies far more often than I find enjoyable

@calebhessing7593 Год назад

@dyrr836 I’m curious, what game is it?

@zufar7619 Год назад

Was not expecting that ending with the Oshi no Ko manga. As a fan of this series and manga in general, it would be so great to see my favourite game psychology RU-vidr delve into the psychology of Oshi no Ko given that there is so much to unpack in it. I hope you do make a video on it someday

@helloguy8934 Год назад

I've watched an anime. I would watch a video about oshi for sure

@alyxvnder Год назад

I haven’t watched or read it yet but from what little I know about it, I think covering Oshi no Ko would be very much worth it!

@helloguy8934 Год назад

@ALYXVNDER_ hell yea brother

@DubUAyeEsDee Год назад

I'm glad you included Genshin and put a spotlight on it as the community talks about this over and over again, where theres literal guides about understanding and solving player burnout lol. I was ready to stop if 3.0 didnt deliver, yet the game constantly delivers new highs - like end credit roll worthy feelings over a recent Yoimiya side quest. And ive got alot of confidence their 4.0 will have a fresh breakthrough with the first steps into a new region evoking something new. I just stopped logging in to play everyday to burn my 'relationship' with a game that i like, as there's nothing quite like it. I dont want to reinforce its weaker sides, the wannabe mmo gear grind for scaling/friction/pressure points that isnt there out of fear I'll hate and regret my time with the game. The game isnt difficult, memes is the true endgame, the best content is permanent and will wait for you.

@Ryouhi94 Год назад

Usually I'm pretty good at only picking up games that I end up enjoying. Yes, there's always some I enjoy more than others, but overall it is pretty rare I buy a game that i actively dislike or regret buying. A few years ago I was finally getting around to playing through a bunch of Zelda titles, Twilight Princess, then Windwaker and Skyward Sword and I really loved all of them. So I was thinking about which Zelda to check out next... and one of the most popular Zeldas or even games period was Breath of the Wild. I was kind of iffy on checking it out, since it's rare that I get invested in games with large open world, but hey, like you said in the video, "there's no way so many people can be wrong about this game right?" And it was just such a slog for me, especially compared to the earlier titles I didn't enjoy the combat, the shrines felt so boring compared to old dungeons and just the lack of narrative or at least an interesting companion character made the sprawling open world make me feel like I was in hell. Still i forced myself to at least finish it, because hey, maybe it gets better?, but it just never did anything for me at all. (I don't mean to say BotW is a bad game, it just didn't click with me *at all*, which is also why I most likely will never try out TotK either) Definitely got trapped by a combination of sunk cost fallacy and the overwhelmingly positive reception of the game. Thogh it did teach me to have more faith in my own judgement of games instead of listening to what people say is good or bad, so there's that at least :) Great video as always!

@DarylTalksGames Год назад

You hit the nail on the head. I loved BOTW, but I completely see why it didn’t do it for everyone and that’s fine. If there’s anything I’ve learned with this backlog challenge, it’s how to drop games if I’m not having fun. Life is too short and in my experience, you typically get to the meat and potatoes of a game pretty quickly, so it’s not usually necessary to keep on digging. Not always, but usually.

@xshme Год назад

I have the complete opposite. I have played some older 2d zelda's but never really tried an older 3d zelda before botw. Since they still get so much praise i have tried many times to play trough them. Oot, TP, WW, SS. I have tried them all but never could get trought them. The only reason i kept trying is because of the great reception 3d zelda games get, but the games just arent for me. Im sure they are amazing games, i just cant get hooked on them

@ThePC007 Год назад

I hate it when I try a classic that a lot of people love but it somehow doesn’t click for me. I bought Hollow Knight and Outer Wilds after so many people said that those games are absolutely amazing, and somehow didn’t like them for some reason.

@CreatrixTiara Год назад

@@ThePC007oh I couldn't get through the first bit of Outer Wilds, I couldn't even take off properly! Luckily I got it via Gamepass so I didn't cost me extra, but I cut my losses early on that one

@ThePC007 Год назад

@@CreatrixTiara I had no issues with that. I actually really, really liked the spaceship physics. The game doesn’t hold your hand in that regard, but is also quite forgiving. You can bump into a planet at quite the significant speed without crashing your ship, and even you you do damage it it is easy to fix. I just… wasn’t having too much fun for some reason and I don’t know why.

@DED_C Год назад

"Would yall watch a video on-" I'll stop you right there, Daryl The answer is yes

@DarylTalksGames Год назад

*immediately starts script on what good boys my dogs are*

@finaldusk1821 Год назад

@@DarylTalksGames Yes, we would watch that. Please make it happen next April Fools.

@testhekid Год назад

ive no idea what it is about but im scared

@Doublemonk0506 Год назад

@@finaldusk1821, or August 26th

@ufoufo2788 Год назад

When it comes to the souring of what you love, the realization of flaws, I say this: in a song, a relationship, a game, you have to learn to recognize the flaws are actually quirks. You have to love the flaws. Because without them, it would not have been what you remembered. It would have been something else

@RGC_animation Год назад

"Babe, I wasn't cheating, I was just being quirky!"

@internetbard4384 Год назад

This comment reminds me of how every time I’ve been on a vacation, once I’m back and it’s all memory, my mind is able to edit out all the hassle and bad parts and remember the highlights. In a lot of ways the game we first played and the highs we remember might grow apart with time.

@rodrigoreismarinho9552 Год назад

That last part hit me hard. For some time i always hated myself for not doing things i wanted to do, i pressured myself to do things but i ended up not doing them, i hated myself for not doing it so i started to get frustrated because of it. Sometime ago i just let go of it, i know myself, i know I won't do whatever i think i should do. Should i be doodling to learn how to draw? Yes. Am i doing it? No, and that's fine, I've accepeted the trash of a human being that i am, it actually helped my mental health. .... Or maybe i should go to therapy, i dunno.

@AsphyxiaUwO Год назад

Embrace the lack my fellow human being. This is the lack: ⭕, this is you embracing it 🤗⭕

@elsoul7204 Год назад

If my may, i embrace it too

@cesarm3218 Год назад

I think letting go of expectations is a good first step. I know I’ve been there, many times honestly. I either have others place expectations of what they want me to be, or more often than not I set expectations of who I should be. Either way, you’re not being kind to yourself, and it just puts you in a position where regardless of what you do, it isn’t good enough. But I’ve learned to let go of it, and to just take it one step at a time. Maybe you will become an amazing artist, maybe you won’t. But regardless of what you end up doing, as long as you are content with yourself that’s all that matters. Be humble, and learn to appreciate the little things, as cheesy as that sounds.

@odotawaissaku3755 10 месяцев назад

Holy shit. You sound just like me. lol But maybe that just means your heart isn't truly as into it as you think it is. I also very much desire to learn art because I feel like its my dream to make my own manga. I want to be an author, but I have such imagery in my head with my stories that I feel like a regular book just isn't enough. But for whatever reason, I just can't motivate myself to actually learn anything about art. I wonder for myself, is my heart actually in it? Maybe I don't care about art, since I don't care to do it. I just like the finished product. But I feel like I've discovered something about myself. I wonder if my real, true, and only dream is actually just to have friends.

@rodrigoreismarinho9552 10 месяцев назад

@@odotawaissaku3755 you're right, I don't like drawing, but I don't fool myself pretending to. I like the finished piece like you do, and i train art because i want to do better final pieces and express myself more. I hope you get to make the manga you so desire, or find another thing you like. Whatever makes you happy!

@high.level.noob. Год назад

I played more games this and last year than every year before that point and I have had an absolute blast. Instead of trying to reignite that flame of first time playing Minecraft, I have found new experiences that are almost as memorable. If you are stuck playing the same game you should breach out and try new things. It is always worth it. Even if you don’t like it you at-least tried.

@iaxacs3801 Год назад

Legit I keep running into this type of comment recently. It's mainly been about FF16 but this year games are been killing it in the 2nd quarter coming round into the 3rd

@high.level.noob. Год назад

@@iaxacs3801 I basically just copied what Stryxo said in his video. But yeah I actually have played a LOT of games lately.

@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Год назад

I've completely ditched minecraft once and forall.

@socaslimjim13 Год назад

Great video as always Daryl! I hadn't realized that I definitely have an Old Married Couple relationship with Breath of the Wild. But the biggest takeaway from watching this is that we as game lovers need to listen to ourselves and not rely so much on external validation.

@simpcat4415 Год назад

That game in particular suffers because the meat of the game is the discovery. The combat, story, and dungeons are all pretty weak imo, but they get the job done and support the true goal of the game: to explore hyrule. Because of this, future playthroughs kind of suck, because you can’t relive that core part of the game every again.

@McW4 Год назад

I love getting past part of a game that was challenging or really tricky or what have you, but I've noticed with certain games it's just so brutal that finally finishing it isn't even satisfying. I just feel like it's about time and I never want to play this ever again.

@TinyWarriorAnimations Год назад

After getting into rocket league with my friends and now raging every night when we play, this video touches me where I needed it. One night we rage in call about a bad shot and yet the next night we play Deeprock and relax as little dwarves.

@twixchexmix Год назад

Playing Before Your Eyes is probably what changed my mindset from someone who used to force myself to 100% every game to see everything a game has to offer, or burn out in the process and never touch it again. The beautifully integrated mechanics and message of the game, as well as having played it the night of my college graduation really made me think about my time and how I spend it and why. Nowadays I just play whatever I feel like in the moment, even if that means leaving a game untouched for weeks or months if I don’t actually want to play it. Makes it a bit difficult to get back into it when I do want to play something after leaving it a while, but thanks to that I finally finished Dark Souls and absolutely loved it.

@bli2z4rd Год назад

Damn. As someone who is planning to go buy an engagement ring to my girl today and HAS experienced the feeling of little things that used to be fine but now annoy the hell out of me and gets me worried about our future, this video hit so damn HARD. Edit: and now I'm genuinely crying after that "love hating it" line.

@chrismcelligottpark6416 Год назад

If those little things are enough to put you off a person, you’re either with the wrong person or have unrealistic expectations - or just aren’t a good match anymore. That new-relationship high doesn’t last all that long, and I’ll take being an old married couple any day. I was with the same partner for 18 years. The first four we weren’t married, the next 14 we were. The first 10 in general were great, but ups and downs in life like anyone. Then things changed over time, and after 18 years she decided she needed to do things solo from then on. I was not pleased at this news to put it mildly, but she was right. Ultimately we were no longer a fit, but it wasn’t because of how long we had been together or because we were fed up with one another; it was because we got together so very young that we went through a ton of life changes as a pair, and came out on the other side in different places. The experience didn’t put me off marriage, but it made me want to look for a different kind of partner who was going to meet me where I was. At my age at the time, there were way more major life events behind than ahead, which made that easier in some ways. My second wife and I have just passed our third wedding anniversary, and have been together four years. Time flies. I don’t have any great advice, but I know a lot of divorced people, and none of them were just from getting tired of the other person. Most people grow and change throughout their entire lives, so is super long term relationship is more like his description of playing DOTA 2 years later. For good and ill, people manage to change and stay the same all at once. 😅

@Julez67 Год назад

Bro, don't let a youtube video about games discourage you from locking yourself for years into a relationship that you will slowly watch deteriorate and die, as you grow to hate every little thing you loved about it

@stormy_does_stuff Год назад

@@Julez67 well that just got personal real fast

@colton7928 Год назад

@@Julez67who hurt you bro I’ll fight them for u

@TheL1arL1ar Год назад

If it works then it will work, who knows what time brings….single dad of 4 with full custody and has been to prison….14 years we lasted….now unfortunately every relationship I want with women involves only 1 thing now oh well….I have a lot of money and video game time when I’m not working at points.

@cesarm3218 Год назад

Wow, this is such a poetic video essay. The line “it’s about learning to let go” struck a chord with me. I’m not really all that old, and yet I keep finding myself reminiscing over the first (insert experience here) and I think to myself if I will ever find something like it again. In order to do so, I have to learn to let go and move on, to not get attached. But part of me just won’t let go, because if I do it means there is a possibility that I forget about it, and idk but that thought kind of makes me sad and a bit scared.

@ashleylightheart126 Год назад

This definitely feels like being an artist. A while back before I entered art school I had to ask myself "do I want to spend my life climbing up this impossible hill that only I can see and then try and make money off it?" The answer was yes obviously and I don't ever think I'll get that "old couple feeling" but I've def run through everything else

@IronMaiden6803 Год назад

Wow the way you combined these four seemingly separate feelings into "How do we know when to move on?" was extremely therapeutic.

@jmh8817 Год назад

20:35 I already have IDOL by Yoasobi permanently living rent free in my head, you tell me.

@shirothebestguy5486 Год назад

I have played League for 10 years, I won't deny that I do love the game. It still offers a competitive rush for me that I can't find anywhere else but I will never recommend playing it to anyone unless they really want to. It goes beyond sunk cost for me I think, it's just been a constant in my life that I can always go back to whenever and I know will be there when I do. Also YES, I would love to see an Oshi no Ko video from you. Hoping it comes through, wanna hear how you convey your thoughts on it

@ganchroi Год назад

For me this is an easy task (stopping a game I hate) but I wasn't always this way, and watching this video made me realise how much growing I've done as a gamer so thanks man 😊

@XistenceX1 Год назад

Damn, it's like you're watching my life. I've been slamming mods into a game I've played 2000 hours of trying to recapture the feelings I had years ago to no avail, trying to feel anything really and this video hit me like a sack of bricks. This put in context what I've been dealing with for months and I get it now. Thanks for the soul crushing realization that I need to just move on a play something else. Also, yes do an Oshi No Ko video, just do it. Daryl Talks Anime is the second reason I'm here besides crippling and painful realizations about my life.

@elecbaguette Год назад

Exactly me with terraria

@saintsalieri Год назад

Or you could do something other than videogames.

@XistenceX1 Год назад

@@saintsalieri Unfortunately my body is withering (I can't repair damage) so I'm not able to do much physical activity. So making games and playing games is basically my work and actual life. Can't find as much joy in other sedentary hobbies.

@nathancarter8239 Год назад

This came at a really pertinent time for me. I've made a list of all the armor in *Tears of the Kingdom* and have been scrounging around for the resources. I was working my way through Lizalfos Tails, which have a terrible drop rate and you need to kill a lot of them in order to get enough. And I don't need to do that. I don't need to upgrade the Rubber Armor Set; I have the Lightning Helm! I'm immune to electrical attacks already!

@reynoldskynaston9529 Год назад

I get why Nintendo put the same armor sets from BotW into totk but upgrading armor definitely feels even more tedious than it did in BotW. It would’ve been cool if they added some way to combine armor sets like the frog armor and the climbing gear.

@calebhessing7593 Год назад

Item duplication glitches exist in TOTK. I haven’t gotten tired of the game yet but I’m keeping that knowledge in my back pocket once the enjoyment starts to slow down. As a friend of mine said, “Life’s too short to grind in a single player game”.

@dt9827 Год назад

Im glad you're discussing this concept in a video. I have always tried to be self aware of sunk cost fallacy and reject the idea of having to like something simply because most people love it, and it pains me to watch people force themselves into doing any hobby just because they did so much or paid so much. There is no amount of time or money you put into something that can pay you back on its promises if you hate doing it. I don't like most competitive games for this reason and many others, but it also applies to everything like TV, anime, art pieces, writing, books, anything. Now, I do believe in giving things a fair try and overcoming challenges, but it has to be born from reflection and belief, not from denial and ego. Retrying a difficult puzzle game with a fresh outlook is good, sitting down for 6 hours and trying over and over, mumbling about how unfair the game is... that's not healthy.

@Firequell Год назад

For me the reason I keep playing [redacted] is because the rollercoaster of highs and lows (winning/losing) is very addictive, and also because it is just essentially a really good game. And also in a strange way [redacted] sort of makes me feel like home, since it's been a constant in my life for many years, even when I moved abroad. Aaand also because there just is no other game like it that scratches that itch.

@greenhydra10 Год назад

I played Celeste, my first true platformer, not too long ago. I was really bad at it, but that just made me more determined to beat it. The same logic applied to Jevil and Spamton NEO. Conversely, I adore Little Nightmares, but don't play the games too often to avoid the "old couple" feeling.

@AscendantOat Год назад

I love tricky platformers and have been playing them for decades, but at first I wrote Celeste off as too hard before finishing the first level. The brilliance of Celeste is that pretty much everyone will be "really bad at it" going in, but it's designed to help you rise to the challenge. Lots of media has the message that "you can do hard things", but in Celeste you LIVE that message by defeating challenge after seemingly insurmountable challenge.

@salesbird4919 Год назад

I would love to see a video addressing manga lol Also this video really encapsulates and justifies some of my issues when it comes to getting into the souls like genre and allowing me to categorize my guilt when it comes the asynchronous way I engage with the game and how the game is intended to be played. I quit the game after the gameplay loop frustrated me on a more...unsatisfying level. One where rage didn't make me motivated but incredibly tired. It feels nice to see a video that processes what I went through so succinctly!

@medrash8862 Год назад

I also never got into souls games, I just realized I'm not the type who likes getting my face mashed in by a boss for five hours

@ama9385-w2g Год назад

@@medrash8862 Most go down in under 10 attempts, people just like to overexaggerate them

@medrash8862 Год назад

@@ama9385-w2g with my skill level five hours is more accurate lol (also im aware its exaggerated since i do it a lot myself)

@Runegrem Год назад

Combining manga with this topic you have these people in the comments who always go something like, "This manga is awful. I'm gonna stop reading it." And then the reply comes, "Okay. See you next week!" And they always return to complain again.

@ama9385-w2g Год назад

@@medrash8862 Fair enough hadn't realised you'd tried 👍

@audenderksen Год назад

2:16 “why are you still playing genshin?” Me playing rn: 😳

@ragekage209 Год назад

as i get older (i'm not old i'm only 28 but yknow) i've become a lot more accepting of when i just don't want to play a game anymore. i used to get so mad at myself for not finishing a game or losing momentum in the mulitplayer space but now i'm just like, i had a great time with it, and now i can move on to new things. to live is to grow and move forward and experience new wonderful things you can fondly look back on. stagnating by forcing yourself to try and re-live your initial experience just leaves you sad and wanting. it's really freeing to accept this honestly.

@imaginaryinkorporated5935 Год назад

This was really interesting from the perspective of a speedrunner. I specifically only speedrun games that I love because I know how much time and commitment it's going to take and even then I sometimes can find myself getting so frustrated that I have to step away because it feels like I'm starting to hate it. But I eventually come back because of my love for the game and my desire to get better. I even stepped away from speedrunning in general for over a year at one point but got right back into it catching up on all the new strats and getting new PBs within weeks.

@1214jefe Год назад

The last question about oshi no ko…. Yes, I will 100% watch it 20:40

@lifelongobserver Год назад

Daryl always askin' the real questions out here 👏 I'm personally an Old Married Couple with Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. I played them on gamecube for years and years, until every line of dialogue, low-poly wall in the corner, and invisible treasure chest was ingrained into my memory and nothing left was fresh enough to stave off the ever encroaching sense of empty meaningless vanity. When the 3ds versions came out, I never bought them: I felt like I just knew the games too well. Still, every now and then I think of those old games with fondness, and that doesn't fade with time.

@beardalaxy Год назад

several years ago, i got to a point in rocket league where i was getting so mad at not just losing games, but losing plays, that i would be throwing my controller and smashing my fist on my table. it got so bad that once, i threw my controller down the hallway and almost broke it completely. it was at that point that i decided to stop playing rocket league, and stop playing games i didn't like playing in general. these days, if i find myself not enjoying a game experience, then i won't play anymore. there are SO MANY games out there to play, and so many other things to do in general, that it isn't worth beating your head against a wall to try and inch out any slight bit of satisfaction as you can from something. not for a video game, especially.

@sarim.97 Год назад

This video... may have been the last straw for me and Genshin. I love the world, I love exploring, I love the fun part of the fandom, and I adore the characters. I've spent so much time building my Hu Tao in particular, and the gacha rush early on was real. Spent over 600 hours in Teyvat. I'm also over two months lapsed. The struggle with the sunk cost is exactly what I've been dealing with. I'm in so deep, I've spent a fair amount of money and especially time, and I've gotten so much out of it. Yet, it starts to feel more like homework than fun with dailies and meta and even just building who I WANT to build. This year I've played more games than ever in a single year (currently at 36 beaten) and I'm having so much fun. There just isn't enough reason to go back to Genshin for me. Thank you for exploring this further. Also I'd watch the HELL out of a DTG video on Oshi no Ko, you kidding me?

@azuarc Год назад

As most Genshin players will attest, it sounds like you were due for a break. Fontaine's around the corner. Maybe it'll spark something for you. And if not, well, you know it wasn't going to last forever. I have no idea what an Oshi no Ko is, but given that I'm not a weeb, I probably don't want to, either. (Yes, I'm a non-weeb that plays Genshin. So what?)

@sarim.97 Год назад

@@azuarc yeah fair, we'll see what happens! I always enjoy the big .0 updates, it'll feel fresh again. As for Oshi no Ko, it's a great manga that recently got its anime adaptation-took the world by storm. Part murder mystery, part modern social commentary, all good time. Would recommend :)

@DarylTalksGames Год назад

Good for you! I really hope this video ends up being a force for good. Just because you stop playing Genshin doesn’t mean all of the fun you had with it gone, ya know?

@knopfir Год назад

@@sarim.97 as a fellow genshin fan whose taken a few breaks here and there. here is my life advice: -completely ignore dailies from here on out. theres no point, no interest, no art, nothing. its meaningless, completely and utterly. -dont do spiral abyss unless you REALLY need the extra primos -dont grind artifacts after the minimum. you dont NEED maximum crit chance and damage on your new shiny character if youre not going for 12 star abyss. and of course, just enjoy the little things. the beautiful scenery, the clever puzzles, the small stories, dont feel the need to completely every little side quest if theyre boring as hell and dont seem to have a point in the grand scheme of things

@slimetank394 Год назад

@@azuarc i tried taking break from genshin many times, a few weeks, a month, a few months, it get to the point every time i comeback i got another "welcome old player comeback" package, none of the "rest" make me enjoy the game again. the fact that it keep getting heavier and heavier and screwing up my laptop doesn't help, i can't play that much other games because Genshin alone takes up a half of my laptop's memory, i even upgrade my hardware once just for this game. Slowly i find nothing but negative towards the game. Then the update before fontaine ask for 12GB more, my laptop gave up and so did i. i figured if i barely enjoy sumeru when it first came out then i won't enjoy fontaine either, i quit quickly, feel no sadness, no regret. i felt relieve even that this is over, which i've never felt with any other game before. Genshin as a whole is honestly just a very weird experience to me.

@Sesmacegard Год назад

Amazing video as always! In my case, I am the "I will finish everything I started" type, but over the years and having experienced games that were not worth playing from the 3rd hour, I have come to the conclusion that some games can't be finished by the actual me. I still finish like 95% of the games I start playing (mostly because I start a game type that appeals me NOW, without social pressure or FOMO), but when it's the perfect time to play it and I get that "man I truly prefer doing some other thing" feeling, that's when I drop it. Maybe the future me will enjoy it more and finish it, now it's not the time.

@phillphunny 3 месяца назад

Many years ago I was playing FFXV and after twenty-hours of THIS trying to optimize my time by doing everything and then only finally getting through the intro and still be one shot by a random lvl 50 mob I put it down. I convinced myself when I had more time I'd come back and clear it from my back log. Josh Strife Hayes talks a lot about the modern adult gamer only having a few hours a day to game. Now, as a dad with a beautiful woman I love spending time with, I not only don't have the time to go back to it, I have better games to play with more fun and less to do.

@manvslife271 Год назад

It's simple pride really, I won't let a game beat me.

@zwryy7622 Год назад

Nah, it's just called addiction

@OfficerPapi Год назад

This guy thinks he’s Vegeta

@WheresTheLake1 Год назад

This could not be anymore true

@shadowhawk1416 Год назад

Excuse me king you dropped your crown 👑

@redhood7778 Год назад

Same. I hate the Ezio trilogy, and I almost 100% the games

@bigboibebop Год назад

You have no idea how much I appreciate you putting captions on your videos. Thanks for doing something most people don’t.

@pachipower417 Год назад

Lovely video! This topic is so real and I can definitely relate to it. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is probably my favorite game of all time but I don't think I can bring myself to play more for a long while because I accidentally deleted my near 100% completion save file and got so burnt out trying to make my way through such a large game again that I don't know WHEN I'll ever recomplete it. It's strange to call my relationship with it an old married couple, but that's probaly what it's closest to.

@Laurzure Год назад

Xenoblade chronicles 3 is also my favourite game probably. I hope you can get back into it soon. Deleting a save file must really suck... But perhaps this suffering can help you enjoy and connect to the characters better next time you play? It's just a thought...

@rafadrath7481 Год назад

How can one be so smart and ambitious? Huge, huge respect for you. Thank you for the amazing content that I lately binged. Notification about this video showed when I reconsidered my choices playing Sifu. One of the best perfect timing moments of my life

@Zockanumber1 6 месяцев назад

When people "hate" a game they don't really mean hate but frustration. You can often times be frustrated with a thing or person you actually like

@qoganjacks146 Месяц назад

15:20 "Too much of a good thing can sour this thing for you" Immediately remember Minecraft 😢

@roadblockk363 Год назад

This video came at the right time for me and strengthened my resolve. I was uninstalling and entirely removing certain games from my library, asking such questions as, what do I want, or what value does this hold me. Walking away hurts. it can be likened to a painful surgery, scary and cuts that leave wounds and pains, but the outcome brings forth a new life or opportunities hidden by those former infirmities. "There is an appointed time for everything...A time to plant and a time to uproot what was planted... A time to throw stones away and a time to gather stones together...A time to search and a time to give up as lost. A time to keep and a time to throw away" - Solomon I hope the best for anyone knowing, it's time to leave behind, but is struggling to do so. As for me, I can barely endure hating to love it later anymore. I Just can't Continue 9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...

@stormy_does_stuff Год назад

🫂

@renendell Год назад

I expected a random video essay, but this one touched my heart. Thanks for this

@InsomniacMatt Год назад

As SOON as you mentioned playing a game so long that you notice stuff that annoy the hell out of you, instantly made me think of several moments in several of my favourite games, Final Fantasy VI, Majora's Mask, Okami, I adore those games so much, but every time, I get to certain points thinking "Dammit, now I have to do this again"

@hideshiseyes2804 Год назад

I really feel that last phenomenon. I’m coming to the end of my time with Hades now. In fact I’m playing it while watching your videos. I only recently started putting a video or podcast on while I play it, and that how I know I’m near the end. You’re absolutely right, it’s a really melancholy feeling. In this case I actually had a premonition of this feeling back near the start when I was enjoying it more than any game I’ve played in ages, and I was resolved to savour every moment because I knew this period was coming. Specifically, in Hades what irks me now is the variable reinforcement gambling thing: I start a run and if I haven’t got a great combination of boons etc by the end of Tartarus I get so demotivated and sometimes even give up on the run. Definitely time to move on… very soon… just a few more runs…

@rarebeeph1783 Год назад

6:55 "most effective tactic available" is a backronym. meta is actually short for metagame, with the "meta" prefix referring to a self-reference or transcending of a concept--it's the game of the game, the game outside the game. you study and play the metagame in order to more effectively play the game.

@tophrii Год назад

I've grown to know myself well enough to know when games just don't vibe with me anymore, and I've learned to let go and move on when things start making me feel negativity over either myself or for the game. Even after putting in money onto a game, aside from hundreds of hours into it- and I just allow myself to look back and enjoy it for what it was able to give me at the time I was enjoying it, and move on. :) Also, yes if you wanna branch out of games and talk about other stuff, that'll be interesting af 😂

@jari5230 Год назад

Wholeheartedly agree, I'd only add that frustration because a game is hard doesn't equal hate. Frustration because of bad gameplay (perceived on my end) makes me quit the game nowadays.

@Ganonmustdie2 Год назад

This video got me thinking that it's important not to let your experience become like the Old Married Couple. And you do that by consciously, actively remembering the good that outweighs the bad. You don't ignore the bad because then you'll be a blind fan, but you should remember why a game's good to begin with. Don't chase the feeling in the GAME, dredge it up from YOUR MEMORY and let that guide your future experiences with the game...or the marriage, etc. Let your love push the experience forward instead of chasing a high you'll never get again. Our minds are wired to focus on the negative, and if you don't actively fight back against that programming you'll slip into pessimism. It takes EFFORT to remember why you love a game, and it's always going to be easier to complain regardless of whether the complaints are valid (why does Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door have SO much backtracking? And why did I only notice on my 7th playthrough?!) or invalid (dude my controller wasn't working and the opponent's cheating because I can't handle the idea of losing). Speaking of marriage, if I ever get there I wanna wake up every day and say "God, thank you for putting HER in my life!" no matter how bad things get. Build the right thought habits to stave off staleness and disillusionment. Sometimes it's unavoidable; if you were 5 years old and loved Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric you're...probably gonna hate the game when you're older because it sucks and has few redeeming qualities. But man, when I think back to things like Starfox 64 that I keep going back to again and again, I don't look at it and say "I'm soooo excited to trudge through the shoe-horned versus mode, and I just hate one of the story paths so much that I'm gonna avoid that." Instead I say "I'm looking for a game that scratches my itch for awesome arcade space-shooting action with delightfully cheesy memorable dialogue." The first example is a game I can't bring myself to play, and the second is an example of a game I can't stay away from. But they're the *same* game, the difference is how I'm focused on what I want to get out of the experience and pursuing that in order to achieve greater enjoyment, rather than putting myself through the parts of the game I don't like as much. People do challenge runs of their favorite games to put their focus on different parts of the experience. Obviously playing a game for 8 hours straight or 1000 hours in total is a bit much...I'm guilty of it as much as anyone else. And what I'm saying only applies if the good truly does outweigh the bad. Anyone here ever try to play a Paradox grand strategy game into the late-game? Way too much lag, too much to micromanage, and usually not enough challenge if you've been playing well at that point. That's why so many people quit out in the early game and restart a new game. Know what parts of the game you *like* and focus on them if you can. If you can't enjoy the game the way you used to, yeah maybe it does have fatal flaws or maybe your outlook and desires have changed. That's ok! Just appreciate the good times you had instead of regretting how the spark's gone. And maybe one day you'll get an itch to come right back to old faithful for one more romp! We can't take our first step in the game again, but each step we take from that point forward is brand new.

@Markjima Год назад

As someone who recently stopped playing overwatch and growing tired of fps games as a whole alot of this hit. i’ll always look fondly on my first play of the game the late night 6 man comp grinds but the past few months of us trying to recapture that fun leaving us all just in a bad mood and finally leaving the game was by far the best decision i’ve made. All those 1000s of hours now being spent on improving on other competitive games i enjoy or finally working through my backlog of the games i genuinely want to experience

@fahimfaisal7571 Год назад

Man, the Genshin part really hit home. I remember loving it soooo much when i first started. It looked like a Miyazaki movie came to life. I loved exploring, I liked the story, I loved the characters. Then, at some point while artifact grinding, I suddenly realized how tedious it is, and I don't like this game anymore. I never felt heartbreak yet but I assume it feels just like this. I tried to keep playing, I thought of the money and hours I've spent building, wishing for characters. But eventually, I stopped. I had to, for my own sake. Now it's just a good memory.

@AlexT7916 Год назад

That's Genshin biggest problem , it's best parts are the explaration and the story & characters , but you can only experience those once for and for a minuscule amount of the total play time of the game , while the rest and majority of the content is combat , quests , events and grinding of a quality from "this is boring and a pain to do" to "this really REALLY fun"

@kirbytrax8326 Год назад

Same here. I also stopped when I realized that the way the game wants you to log in everyday was turning it into a chore. I hate routines and being forced to do things and when I found out that they have events with story/character progression that are unavailable after the event ends, I was done with it

@PikaLink91 Год назад

A good memory indeed. That's the right way to part ways. The game may have become tedious to you eventually, but no one can take away those good hours where the game was still fun.

@Runegrem Год назад

@@kirbytrax8326 Yeah. That kind of game design where you feel the need to play every day to keep up is what gets people burnt out. And missing out on content just because you couldn't play a specific time really takes the fun out of it. But I actually enjoy the small mindless daily commisions and resin domain grinding. It's a nice way to relax either between breakfast and work or after work. And if I don't feel like playing that day I just don't.

@kirbytrax8326 Год назад

@Runegrem I guess I'm also not a mobile gamer so for me winding down (playing games) would be either with my Switch or at home on my pc and in both cases I have games that relax me or interest me more Also I just generally hate grinding in any game so yeah... artifacts weren't fun lol

@masonwhite3698 Год назад

This kind of thought process applies a lot when it comes to fighting games and how the community for a given game holds up over time. The first few months of a major release are kind of a magical time as everyone is collectively learning and improving at a pretty fast pace, and the community has a substantial amount of new players that are heavily engaged since the game is still new. A lot of people call it the 'honeymoon phase' with a game. And, inevitably, that honeymoon ends. Less experienced players either step away or improve and rise into higher skill brackets, the game's meta is more heavily understood, mechanics that might be problematic can no longer be handwaved away with "We're still figuring it out, I'm sure there's counterplay to it", and the community's learning pace slows down hard as people start to hit that dreaded skill plateau. Things that were considered the mark of a skilled player become commonplace, lessening one's previous achievements, while the higher average skill level makes it harder for new players to find people on their skill level that won't just stomp them. This isn't to say that every fighting game community is doomed to something like this; aside from balance patches and content additions helping offset some of these things and help attract new eyeballs while providing the existing players new elements to learn, and even without that, the game is generally still pretty loved by the community that sticks with it, and the new players that do come in will find that it's a great time if they stand by it.

@robinrosie 3 месяца назад

I first played Breath of the Wild in 2020, when I hadn't been outside consistently for months because of the Curse. I hadn't been able to afford the game at launch and I'd been aggressively avoiding spoilers ever since it came out. I'm so glad I got to play the game blind, because it was a beautiful experience that genuinely made me feel like I was exploring a world, like I was outside on an adventure. When I finally finished the game, I desperately wanted to play more, but I didn't know how. It felt like it would detract from the original journey i went on. In the end I made an art project out of it. I made a full journal out of the journey I had personally been on. It's been a couple years but it's still the longest project I have ever managed to finish. After finishing that I did go back to the game, but the point was different. I could fully give into wringing every last bit of dopamine from the game that I could. Because I had preserved the original journey.

@Arcwise 8 месяцев назад

I haven't paid attention to the video title and just came here from your 4th wall video. Let me tell you that 2:16 was such an unexpected, reality-shattering horror moment for me 😭

@CreatrixTiara Год назад

Lol i genuinely love Genshin. I love quest heavy games and the world quests in Genshin draw me in. As a performance arts professional, i also absolutely adore all the stage & theatre references in the game - they're very well researched and are so inside baseball at times that I swear they must have theatre professionals on their writing staff. (I've done stage magic so I'm SUPER excited for Fontaine!!) I'm f2p mainly because I've not felt a strong enough urge to pay a cent (i kinda promised myself that I'll only pay for the gacha if they make Jeht playable). I do sometimes wonder if i should throw some dollars Hoyoverse's way just so they can do more of their arts outreach work! I have taken breaks from Genshin and i dont necessarily feel like I'm missing out - i come for the content i enjoy. I think me going f2p helps a bit with not feeling the sunk cost fallacy, but at the same time i also dont have a ton of tolerance for games that i find myself hating, even if i paid for it. I bought Disco Elysium and ended up hating one of the early quests so hard that i stopped playing - that game isn't cheap! There are games that have made me cry for how needlessly hard it is (as in, not hard on purpose, but it's too finicky for no good reason) and most of the time i drop them. It can sting to know that you've spent money you cant get back (esp digital downloads where you can't exactly resell the game even for a loss) but better that then wasting my time on experiences that frustrate me to tears.

@AscendantOat Год назад

I've been playing Genshin alongside Tears of the Kingdom and it's been surprisingly stark how much I prefer Genshin. TotK is a masterpiece and a big step up from BotW, but Genshin raised the bar and keeps raising it. Genshin's surprisingly light monetization was one of the reasons I gave it a shot. You don't even unlock the shop until you're a good ways in, the $5/month trickle option is blatantly more cost-effective than immediate rewards, and even that's only around a quarter of the premium currency you can get f2p each update. Limited-time gacha characters come back every few months, and there's a hard cap on pulls before you're guaranteed the character.

@aliceadebola Год назад

Just our of curiosity - what quest in disco elysium do you mean? (Apart from that, thank you for sharing your genshin experience. To me, this is definetly on of those "I DESPISE it, but still play for hours and day on end"-type of game, so it's nice to hear that people actually enjoy it without feeling forced to keep logging in)

@gamingmaster5072 Год назад

I agree I think people only come to hate genshin when they spend too long grinding or feel forced to log on every day

@Swagbastian Год назад

Trust me, whatever benefit you think spending money is going to give them, they already have it. Anything you could possibly give them would be inconsequential compared to what they've already made. I personally think Genshin is a bad game, not simply due to the monetization system, so it's interesting to read that the quests "draw you in". The dialogue is far too bloated with unnecessary sections.

@Swagbastian Год назад

@@gamingmaster5072That's true, but there are also many other things to dislike about the game.

@Half_a_bosco Год назад

that was a great video, I've struggled with all of the points that you mentioned and thankfully realised it and started to learn about the sunk cost fallacy and learned how to (mostly) circumvent it

@atlaswastakenistaken Год назад

I like to find beauty in the imperfections. It's humbling to know that no matter how good something is, there will always be something wrong with it. If one can accept those imperfections and deal with them appropriately, they can have an absolute blast.

@DaitoByte Год назад

For the last several months, I've thown myself at Valorant in an attempt to try to hit the highest rank in the game. Not because I think it particularly matters or will be a major achivement in my life, but because I wanted to prove to myself that I was capable of sticking with something until I was the best I could possibly be at it. After major improvement in the first month and basically plateuing since, I found that I'm not really enjoying the game anymore and that driving force is now only that goal that I set for myself. At the time of writing this, I'm still undecided on if i'm going to quit, but I really enjoyed this video and its given me alot to think about.

@arnaldosantoro6812 Год назад

At 2:50 I literally laughed out loud. Perfect comedic timing.

@Reclipse_ Год назад

I’m told I’m stubborn. Celeste, After Alterna, Hollow Knight and just hard ass Platformers are honestly my bread and butter, and my bane. It’s a love hate relationship and when I beat one it’s so gratifying.

@Youmu_Konpaku_ Год назад

This essay was pretty amazing, you really got to my personal side a lot of times during this video The references to games i play like dota and genshin also made it a lot more enjoyable:D Btw yeah you should definitely do a video about oshi no ko 👌

@TaylorWrightVA 11 месяцев назад

I'm not done with the video yet, I just want to throw appreciation for the fact that I heard Neo: The World Ends With You music in the background on this channel. Also hi I'm a longtime watcher! Thanks for all the interesting videos these last few years!

@WGGrizzy Год назад

Very interesting video that oddly enough I feel like I used to do some of these things but just dont have the time to play any one thing long enough to fall into this. As a completionist I do have trouble putting things down but I guess i've just learned not to pick things up if Im not 100% sure im gonna enjoy it, theres way too much media around to afford to not be picky these days so might as well figure out what you want the most of your media and focus on that, at least thats how i fell. Also yes absolutely on the Oshi no Ko video im so down for that Daryl

@bigdogty4dawin Год назад

And yes Oshi no Ko is now top 20 all time anime, it would be great

@DarylTalksGames Год назад

👀

@kayaszakacs4521 10 месяцев назад

There's an indie studio called Failbetter Games whose work I absolutely *adore* ...storywise. They have some of the best writing I've ever seen in a video game, but the only one of their games that isn't absolute hell to play is Sunless Skies. You have to do a ton of grinding in order to get anywhere, and the games progress very slowly (for example, in Fallen London you gain one action every ten minutes, and it's notoriously hard to get anywhere in Sunless Sea because your ship moves at like 2 miles an hour). I didn't realize how much these games had fucked up my perspective on other games until my friends got me into Sky: Children of the Light and I suddenly realized I had started grinding for candles without even realizing it. I didn't even *need* candles (I had like 20 at the time), but I was so used to the grind that it became my default state for playing video games. It's a useful mindset to have when you're playing a game that's heavy on resource management or generally a pain in the ass, not so much for the game about running away from krill with your friends.

@elkaki123 10 месяцев назад

4:00 I laughed so hard when you mentioned League, it was the game that instantly came to mind when I saw the title.

@ceejayred Год назад

Damn this one resonated with my one so much. I can’t describe how deeply you touched my soul. I play Minecraft now not because I enjoy it, but because I miss it. I miss the life I had when I did enjoy it. I miss my friends. I miss the easy life. I miss my childhood. This game that has LITERALLY taken up over 30% of my total life (that’s total, not awake) is now a stranger to me. I’ve mastered it and now I’m forever chasing that first year. I miss when I first played Minecraft, but more importantly, I miss WHO I WAS when I first played Minecraft. P.S. I haven’t heard of that one so I’m not sure if I’d watch it tbh. Depends on how captivating a title of the video it is if I’m being honest.

@chaosblow4838 Год назад

Amazing video !! loved that history intro and divergence from video games to connect the ideas to other places in life. well articulated, edited and loved the closing thoughts.

@CybenX_yt Год назад

take a break if you need to, daryl, well be here whenever you feel like you can come back as for the video, ive been keeping track of every game ive played this year in a text box on my steam profile- the thing is, ive been writing the game's title down not when i beat it, but when i "get" it, when i get a good grasp of the game's systems and really understand the intended experience. with some stuff, i write it down during the second playthrough, with others, like spider man miles morales, i wrote it down halfway through the campaign. i ended up finishing it ofc, but there wasnt that pressure to finish it just to check a box. the box was already checked, so i could quit whenever i wantes, and i knew that if im still playing, its bc im having a good time. this works WONDERS with multiplayer stuff, like the new-ish battlebit remastered. its just battlefield, i understood it immediately and wrote it down on the list after an hour of play, but im still out there grinding it by myself or with friends because its still fun! im sure theres some interesting psychology thing in there buried under the rambling, but youre more equipped to find it than i am- either way, fantastic video, i loved it and it really made me think

@LoserWithKnife Год назад

Everybody's already said what they had to for the main content so I'm going to chime in... Yes, I would love a video of Oshi no Ko. It's completely up your alley and I think you'll nail it.

@bigdogty4dawin Год назад

*sighs* fine Daryl, i will try to learn how to air dribble to get out of diamond 1

@DarylTalksGames Год назад

I’ll meet you there, I just got to Platinum 1 last night lol

@realchezboi Год назад

@@DarylTalksGamesI just got to Platinum tooo

@testhekid Год назад

this is a really important topic that contributes to why people have been losing their love with videogames in recent years love ur coverage of these topics as always, i hope that i still get to play the games i like and leave the games i hate behind one day

@grimoireweissfan6969 6 месяцев назад

17:48 I've never been able to articulate the reason why I still play Genshin and Star Rail but yeah, this is it. You finally found the words I've been wanting to say. It's embarrassing to have formed this much of an attachment to it yes, but there are aspects of both games that I genuinely adore

@fearfayth147 Год назад

Every single time someone lists off a bunch of hard games that are like this in always chanting fear and hunger in my brain so hearing you acknowledge it's existence was a jumpscare and a half oh my god

@Zozolio_Zoe Год назад

I tend to avoid this feeling by simply deleting the game after I'm "done" with it (if it had a few endings and is good I'll replay on the spot). It gave me the feeling of melancholy similar to that of going home from a theme park

@Syankstin Год назад

When it comes to games that I have a love/hate relationship with, it's definitely the Danganronpa series. No matter how many times I play the series, I can't help but point out many flaws these games have, but ultimately I still have a good time playing those games. As to the question at the end of the video.... YES! I'd watch a video about Oshi no Ko. I need more Oshi no Ko in my life after the last chapter, lol

@TheOrian34 Год назад

It has many flaws, but you can't help but love some characters.

@Limit02 Год назад

Danganronpa has an energy unlike any series I’ve ever played, it’s hard to still not love it after all these years

@Syankstin Год назад

@@TheOrian34 That's definitely true. To this day I still can't bring myself to hate some of the first game's characters (like Sayaka for instance), as the circumstances changed their personalities so much. Although the second game's cast has some meh characters here and there (looking at you Teruteru). I still haven't played V3 yet tho, so can't speak on characters from that game

@Syankstin Год назад

@@Limit02 To be frank, for me the Danganronpa series is just as good a murder mystery game as the Ace Attorney series, but the minigames are kinda disrupting the pacing of the Class Trials. But, at the same time, the 5th and 6th mainline games in the Ace Attorney series (in other words Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice respectively) thrown in some minigames to the mix that disrupt the pacing of their trials. So definitely neither of those series is perfect lol

@Limit02 Год назад

@@Syankstin all those weird class trial mini games somehow completely left my mind lmao Also def play V3 when you find the desire, it’s divisive for reasons but I also think it’s the best game in the whole series

@embrefrosste6044 Год назад

I have the opposite problem myself, really: I have ADHD, so every time I have to stop playing a game for the day, booting it up again on the next day isn’t a habit. It’s an effort, and if I am not loving the game, it’s a Herculean effort to try to continue playing it. Not once in my life have I ever continued to play a game that I hated, but as a consequence, there are many games that I love that I’ve never been able to finish because they got just a bit too tedious at the wrong time.

@ramboyolo4097 Год назад

with the last part i feel a good way to fall back in love with a game is to give it a break till your memory of that last playthrough is hazy

@JaxlamKing Год назад

The first step to moving on is acceptance. You gotta accept the way you feel about the game instead of pushing those feelings away. Also, yes, I would watch a video about Oshi no ko.

@analyticHeart Год назад

Every time I hear of people who grow tired of a good thing like a specific song or game, I'm always filled with appreciation for not only what I currently have, but also for undying love. Yes, sometimes too much of something good is tiring, but other times, like with myself, undying love exists and will NEVER stop loving somethings. No matter how many thousand hour I put into Undertale, or if it's the three thousandth time I've listed to Karma by AJR, I will never stop loving those things.

@ShinigamiNoLuffy Год назад

This perfectly describes my expirience with Overwatch. I played that game since release and had a love-hate relationship for the most part. After 2,5k hours I was finaly able to quit for good and deleted my account mid season 3 of OW2. For me being able to make that cut, Blizzard played a big role by screwing up the game hard. I am happy I did it and freed myself from that toxic relationship it has become over time. Thank you for this excellent video.

@raekog Год назад

I haven't heard the instrumental version before- but right as NEO:TWEWY music started playing in the background I kept on thinking to myself "IS THAT TWEWY MUSIC??" over and over again. Btw great vid so far and for everyone who reads this, play the The World Ends with You games!

@destinyDragon97 Год назад

Such a great video as always Daryl!! My old married couple was Fallout 76 (yeah I know, but I swear that it was pretty addictive 😂) and I think that I got luck on that because I knew I had to let go thanks to the game itself, I had done what I wanted and was pretty powerful (around lv 500 and more than 400 hours on it) and there was not much endgame content left for me. Thanks to that I've been able to play many other jewels and notice when I'm playing a Game too much, and I hope others do that. I know that there are very addicting good games out there, but there are many others that are worth our time too.

@alias6676 Год назад

this came out on the best time imaginable lol Im sunk deep into dying of frustration playing Rain World right now. It's gotta be one of the most frustrating games ever created as unfair situations are deep rooted into the prime principles of this game's design. It is also one of the most special games i ever had pleasure to experience and i didn't even finish it all. I'm not planning to full 100% it like i did with Hollow Knight, god no, but at least i wanna experience it fully and maybe one day i will finally be able to enjoy it to full extend when my skill issue won't finally be so prominent lol

@AnotherDuck Год назад

Yeah, Rain World is also one of those games I kind of want to experience, but the enjoyment of actually playing it isn't worth it. It's not really too hard or anything (unless it gets significantly harder later on it's kinda mid); it just doesn't feel good to play. The idea of it is far more interesting than the practicality of actually doing it.

@Gekkoulong Год назад

I'm playing it right now and if i dont like part of the game, I will just not play it. I enjoy getting better at the game and seeing the world, but at the same time i get frustrated when i die at the same place or having major skill issue. That being said, so long as i still have fun playing the game, i will do it, even if it meant i wont 100% the game, because after all, why play it if you dont even enjoy it in the first place.

@brandongalletas5432 Год назад

"Or are you just trying to recapture the wonder of your first steps in this world" Damn. As a Xenoblade fan, the background and the frase really hits

@criptych Год назад

One reason (among many) I tend to avoid multiplayer games in general, and especially MMOs, is to avoid exactly that sense of "catching up and keeping up". I'd rather look at how far I've come, or how far I have to go, than how far ahead someone else is. Not to say I don't occasionally "hate" some of those single-player games, too (looking at you, Zachtronics, of which I own all and have properly finished… none). As for "Escape": I always (well, ever since I understood the lyrics) looked at it as a sad song with a happy ending. They both set out to find someone that made them feel "in love" like they once were, only to rediscover that feeling in each other.

@IskarJarek Год назад

I feel this a lot more with books and movies, and since I enjoy narrative heavy games sometimes with games as well. I continue to watch/read/play hoping the story gets better and it isn't until I'm done that I can say yeah that actually sucked.

@EchoBlox Год назад

This used to be me with Overwatch before the game was killed…and then I realized that once I stopped playing after years of chasing improvement, I started feeling a lot better about myself 💀

@rickwoods5274 Год назад

Weird memory associated with this Concorde intro: I owned the NES Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! game cartridges. One of the "prizes" you could "win" in the bonus rounds of those games was a "Concorde to London". That was my intro to the Concorde. That is all.

@co81385 Год назад

There is a phrase that you used in this video, the "ever moving standard", that verbalizes what can drive me so nuts about modern games. It's as if games are no longer static, and it can be taxing to always keep up.