Disney wish 2023, king magnifico's kingdom won't last very long with asha running it, disney wish asha's ideas on wish granting will hurt this kingdom alot. Disney wish king magnifico is actually smarter than you may think.
Because Asha is learning magic at the end of movie, once she starts using that magic to do wish granting ceremonies like Magnifico used to, this kingdom will be less than a pile of rubble before you know it cause...... Asha and the Queen are wayyy too naive Meanwhile, Magnifico chose having "your wish granted" as the bounty reward because he understands human nature i.e people are constantly selling out their "friends" to satisfy their own desires
At least everyone absorbed their wish and didn't make them true. I believe Magnifico was a little power hungry to help, but that was a small flaw that the forbidden magic made more obvious when he used it out of desperation. I believe she could have helped the king and convinced him to allow people to choose if they do or do not want to remember their wish. That way if it's simple they can try themselves without magic first. Otherwise the knight was reasonable. I don't like the memory erasure bit, but with some character growth with Magnifico he could have been an even better king.
@@estebangutierrez160 if you view magnifico as the hero the ending is actually worse. The brave monarch tried his best to prevent the destruction of his own kingdom only to be betrayed and forced to watch it happen all over again. Forever helpless to save anyone from the forces of evil as their temptations ruins the kingdom.
To me,King Magnifico seems like a strict teacher or an "a-hole with a point". He ruled over Rosas successfully for decades and Asha overthrew him just because he told her "no". She's more childish than Magnifico ever was
FR. She’s an entitled brat. At least magnifico has a reason to be the way he is and does make valid points. Asha overreacted. Who conspires against a king, overthrows the king and breaks laws for being told ‘no’? Oh right, a criminal.
No. At least the first half of the movie he’s a perfect saint of a man who’s only desire is to make a better kingdom then the one he originally lost. He didn’t even know that he could use wishes for power until the second half.
The best analogy for Magnifico is that he's a Father. He acquired a trade to support himself and family, built a house to protect that family, takes care of them for nothing but love and good will, ask only that they obey his rules, and occasionally gives them something they want to be happy so long as it's safe.
@@rhaeasoul8531 well I mean, he got corrupted by his own Disney Princess movie equivalent of the Darkhold just like Scarlet Witch. Only difference is, when she was corrupted by the Darkhold, she wanted to kill a child and messed with multiple timelines but she just wasn’t herself. Her actions were selfish but understandable. All magnifico did was crush a few dreams which isn’t evil, just mean. I was hoping for a lesson like these people realized they were selfish especially since their king asked for help but all they cared about were the wishes. So of course he gets desperate and became corrupted out of that desperation. I was hoping that the MC would realize why wishes needed rules and limits and how Magnifico lost his home and got no help, ever, and think “what have we done” and give a speech about how ungrateful, selfish and entitled they all were even when the king needed help. Everybody would feel ashamed and try to help the king until eventually, they succeed. King Magnifico apologizes saying he didn’t know what came over him but was afraid he would loose everything again and knows that’s not an excuse, but Asha would say “I think it is us who should apologize to you, your majesty” and everybody apologizes and learns a lesson that they should never be greedy, take what they have for granted, and work hard themselves. No more shortcuts. And wishes must have rules and limitations. Boom! Fixed it. Not perfect but it’s better than what we got.
@@ashebennett7726 still it felt like an insult at the end that he’s forever framed as this pure evil monster. His own wife never even attempted to get through to him before joining with the “heroes” and locking the staff away at the end.
My little cousin said after the movie « what if 2 people ask to win the same contest, then you cannot grant their wishes no? And what if the wish is something bad ? » I was so proud of her
Right? I’ve actually heard about little kids pointing out the flaws of these movies while the adults try to defend and it’s embarrassing to watch. Kids are a lot smarter than what they’re given credit for.
Not to mention the fact he doesn’t grant wishes in the movie; his magic only gave people the abilitie to grant their own wish ; all he did was safeguard the potentionally dangerious wishes better off not remembered. I mean hitler wish was to inspire people and lead his country to greatness but you don’t see anyone sane defending his goal.
@@Eichsterd123 I wouldn't go that far but one of their worst godkids "took out" an archduke and caused World War 1. She somehow found a loophole in Da Rules and iced someone.
Whoever wrote Wish didn't see Bruce Almighty, when Bruce says Yes to everyone's prayers. It becomes hell. So many people won the lottery, they only got $17 each.
They also forgot Aladdin. Genie had rules and isn’t seen as a bad person for that because they’re logical. Rule #1: he can’t kill anyone. Because yeah, what if the person making the wish wants to kill someone innocent or someone important which could cause the fall of an entire kingdom. Rule #2: he can’t make people fall in love with anyone else. Because forcing love through wish granting is the magic equivalent of a roofie so that the wisher can date r*** them. Rule #3: he can’t bring people back from the dead. Because if that person is dead, they won’t be able to retrieve their souls which would mean they resurrect a zombie meaning they won’t be that person anymore. That could only cause their spirit to be restless since they aren’t meant to be alive anymore. It could put them in spiritual pain and torment their souls. They might become vengeful if they aren’t allowed to rest. And if they’re not the same people after they die, they could become dangerous. Maybe even start a zombie apocalypse. So yeah. Wishes need rules and limits. And if Genie was being logical with his rules, then why not Magnifico? Basically, Asha’s grandfather wants to be worshipped and isn’t that wrong? I mean, if he wants to inspire the younger generation with his music, what’s stopping him? Why does he need Magnifico’s magic? Is he lazy? The guys 100 years old and not once did he ever try to make something so simple happen himself? Yeesh these people. Magnifico is a person, not a vending machine. So ungrateful.
@@ashebennett7726 and it wasn’t like he just gave people their wishes to begin with; he gave them the tools but they still needed to work at it to actually achieve their dream.
Genie said something about “it’s not a pretty picture” and that he “doesn’t like doing that.” Maybe it was an added rule because horrible disasters happened with this sort of wish? And, if so, did the previous rules have the same origins? Did Asha just cause the Aladdin apocalypse theory?
I am quite obsessed with Wish because it's superbly written TRAGEDY entirely on accident. The king who sacrificed everything for his kingdom and it's people get overthrown by the very people he fought his life for. Not only that, but he is overthrown by the person he trusts most, his wife, and the most naive and self-centered nobody(Asha) who thinks she's more experienced and knowledgeable than the king. The only fault on the king's part was that he spoiled his people by granting their wish at all. I can see a children's book written in the perspective of Magnifico as the protagonist, and Asha as the antagonist. Only thing that need to be added is that the star is actually a spawn of devil who yearned to destroy this city. The lesson here is simple: If you are in position of responsibility and power, DO NOT reward your people when they accomplished nothing.
Indeed. I agree. Loving your people? Great. Spoiling your people? No. Magnifico took care of his people and made them want for nothing. So now they wanted everything.
It’s kind of like the quote from God in Futurama “You need a light touch so when you do something it seems like you didn’t do anything at all”(paraphrased)
Social justice narratives stem from anger, revenge and hate where the hero who embodies these traits are actually the villain.. Which by its nature makes the villain the hero. Basically... SJW writing is a self indulgent method of railing against the things they think held them back and never grew to develop a broader vision of how to overcome their issues. The heroes of the world are not 'their' heroes because the heroes never came to help 'them'. They hate heroes because the world of a hero doesn't revolve around them.
Another thing that annoys me. Is how by the end. Not one person even considered giving Magnifico a second chance. He kept them happy and safe for years. They all claim they loved him. But the moment he is no longer a wish dispenser no one cares for him. That Kingdom is made up of awful, selfish, entitled people. It's not like at the end they tried to win him back to the good side. Or make him realize that he was doing to his Kingdom the harm he was trying to protect them from. He didn't want what happened to him to happened to someone else, and he was about to do it. It would've make more sense for him to realize this, be unable to fix it, Asha and the star fix it. But Magnifico having to pay the prize and accept punishment. Or turn out the kingdom was really built with magic and it become unstable because of what he did. And began to crumble, and to prevent that they need a magic cornerstone. And instead of using the star, he choose himself as punishment and to keep the kingdom alive.
Worst ending I’ve seen yet. Big cast of characters, and the only one I feel absolutely devastated for is the guy who’s suppose to be the villain getting sucked into the mirror. Everybody else, off with their heads! 👿
I can imagine an isekai manwha about how the protagonist becomes Magnifico and has to address the plot nonsense. Ask Asha why she really launched an insurrection, or how short sighted/hypocritical her plans are as a ‘fairy godmother’
You should have been in the writers room. Not that they would have listened I bet but still. I’m right now part of a team of indie developers working on a story and I am trying to get the writers to make a coherent plot. I’m just assigned the role of editor. But, yeah, so far it’s been a bit of a battle to attempt to get the writers to understand logic. I’m trying to make a difference but it’s seriously a struggle.
A blissful utopia, a bastion of racial and gender equality during a time when such things were unheard of, was destroyed, all because a selfish teenager threw a tantrum. Just...just think about that.
They were equal in rights, freedom and opportunities but not in having anything and everything they wanted. All it took was one thoughtless and selfish child with a little too much power to put the equality the people enjoyed in danger.
Can we acknowledge the fact that losing the only reason other kingdoms didn't dare invade Rosa was because of Magnifico? Now that he's gone, nothing can stop others from carving up the territory of Rosa and even extradite everyone who took refuge in it. Yeah, they're doomed even without the problem of wishing.
THIS SO MUCH Because A) Like you said, Magnifico's magic was a huge part of why the kingdom is safe B) The army/guards we are shown cannot catch a singular girl, they're completely useless C) Anyone who didn't make it through the process of citizenship would likely still be upset/jealous D) Continuation of C, anyone who's heard the rumors of this utopia but never had the chance or thought it wasn't worth the exchange will now be clambering to get in E) The way kingdoms work with treaties and alliances, it's mostly king to king. You make deals with the leadership. So if that leadership disappears mysteriously, most kings with agreements would be far less likely to trust the replacement Even if it isn't torn apart by war, it will be overrun with "bad" people
And then one family escapes into the mountains blocking off all foes, this family takes some of the magic with them in the form of a candle, they start a new community, their own 'Encanto'
Remember how Firelord Sozin began to form his wish that led to 100 years of global war? "Our nation is enjoying an unprecedented time of peace and wealth. Our people are happy, and we're so fortunate in so many ways. I've been thinking, we should share this prosperity with the rest of the world."
Frankly, I wouldn't have minded Sozin's wish before the 100 year war started. The Earth Kingdom was already asking the Fire Nation to police their eastern coast because they themselves were barely centralized as a country. Fire Nation brought order, law, and innovation along with them to their colonies and it was good for everyone that wasn't a pirate. The only force that mattered in opposition was the incarnation of God that was trying to maintain the world in one form just as it had been for millinnea. From there, you pick. Live in a simple yet stagnant world that doesn't evolve, or, embrace change that allows people to seek out new niches. There are no wrong answers.
Imagine the irony of the same people that took away Magnifico's home came to Rosas to do the exact same thing. And the ONLY thing that stopped them was the fact that they forgot, because Magnifico had their wish.
@@usonohoshi6165 I kinda had an idea like that. Magnifico took wishes because the world outside is actually post-apocalyptic and ruled by evil sorceror-kings, and taking the wishes not only have him the power to keep them out, but made people forget the horrible truth. They tried tempting him with the book, and when that didn't work, they pooled their resources and were able to slip in one agent to cause chaos and discontent... A cute little wishing star.
Yeah, imagine how many people would have that as a wish. Either the wish takes money from others creating basically what’s happening today with absurdly rich elites and everyone else struggling to scrape by, or the wish generates more money causing the value to plummet and sending the economy into one of those horny eagle death spirals and kids start using wheelbarrows of money as street toys again.
Wish sure took an interesting turn by having a villain as the main protagonist that manipulates everyone and eventually seals away the king who kept peace and order in the lands just so she can invite doom and chaos because she selfishly wanted a rather vague wish to be granted. And just to spite the good king who was unjustly sealed away, she released all the wishes that could potentially end the universe if someone so wished without any way of controlling them.
It’s like Gaston, from Beauty and the Beast, and I know he’s not the protagonist in Beauty and the Beast. Because Gaston manipulated the whole village to think the beast is a real monster, only for Gaston to be the real monster. I think of Wish, as a dark counterpart to Beauty and the Beast. The Beast🤴🏻-King Magnifico 🤴🏻 Gaston💪🏻-Asha 🪄
All Magnifico wanted was to find someone who genuinely wanted to look out for him. He wanted a helping hand. He wanted to find someone in his kingdom who wanted to take care of him for a change. But, no. He had to be made into the villain in the sloppiest way possible.
It should also be mentioned that before asha was even considered there were plenty of people who had the "Assistant" position but they all got fired or rejected because they were only in it to get a wish granted. So even before magnifico lost his wish granting power no one in the kingdom cared about him as a person
Indeed, he was actually the good guy, since uncontrolled wishgranting can do more harm for the kingdom than it can do good. Like if 2 people wish to get married, its a easy to grant wish. but if someone wishes for UNLIMITED wealth, it can crumble the economy or if someone wishes to marry someone who is already married, it would mean the wish would KILL the previous spouse, resulting in a DOMINO effect of similar wishes. crumbling the economy/kingdom because there are no more farmers or merchants due entitled wishes
Classic villain magnifico was pretty entertaining as well it’s just unfortunate it seems like Disney had no idea what they wanted to do with his character.
@Alex-mh5mu yeah but the problem is that “Yizma” is a recognizable villain already do making Magnífico like her wouldn’t satisfy people. It’s the same problem people have with characters like Asha, who has the same quirky personality as Rapunsell. It feels like they are recycling ♻️ characters rather than writing new ones. If anything they should have made him a villain you could honestly emphasize with or a villain who becomes less villainous as the movie progressed, like Meruem from HxH, someone you knew had to be overthrown for the good of everybody but at the same time you didn’t want them to die. Imagine how successful the movie would be if the premise was “is it evil or just your perception” and having people question if they are on the write side or someone else is. 🧐✨
@@rhaeasoul8531 I’ve heard there’s speculation the script was actually AI generated. The rumor is actually one of the reasons the movie flopped so badly at the box office. I’m not sure if it’s true or not but it would certainly explain its strange plot holes and sudden changes in the flow of the story.
@@rebeccaanne9863 it wouldn’t shock me if AI was involved; I watched the credits out of curiosity and only one song “this wish” has writer / lyric credits.
I agree. Throughout the movie she’s telling all these people that the kings keeping wishes to himself and will never grant those wishes yet she never tells anyone the very specific clear as day reason magnifico told her that he would never grant a wish. He literally told her he would never grant her grandfathers wish is because it was too vague and he didn’t know what inspire means; for all he knew her grandfather was the next hitler in the making.
Convincing an idiot is an impossible task, now imagine trying to convince thousands of them. Asha took advantage of their stupidity and made them all turn against the sole person who kept the Kingdom safe.
Not to mention that her grandfather's wish is achievable without magic. If he had done something worthwhile then the future generation would have been inspired. He'd have gotten his wish without Asha resorting to imprisoning the king.
Dead or not. The kingdom will collapse. Magnifico spoiled them, and took care of way too much. In addition the protection of said Kingdom. For all we know pirates or whatever never attacked Rosas because of his protection. Or some other Kingdom hates Rosas, and now they hear that Magnifico is no more. And if they believe that the Kingdom had riches, or believe the secret to his powers is somewhere there. They'll invade. And they'll be vulnerable. Also, the idea of the wish granting had people in check. How many people only behaved like good people for the benefits the kingdom offered, like no rent, or simply hoping they'll get their wish. But that is gone. So why be good and wait for what you want.When you can just take it. I just rewatched some of it. Thinking I missed something. But God its even worst. And would rate the movie lower than I originally did.
My favorite theory is that people who had evil intent forgot their plans, because they forgot about it. But now that Asha returned their wish to everyone, they remember. And it's only matter of time before Rosas shares the same fate as Magnifico's first home.
Magnifico: "Not everyone's wish is good for the kingdom, and as the king it's ultimately up to me to determine which wishes to grant and which to refuse." Disney: "OMG what a villain! He clearly deserves death!"
It’s like Gaston, in Beauty and the Beast, and I know he’s not the protagonist in Beauty and the Beast. Because Gaston manipulated the whole village to think the beast is a real monster, only for Gaston to be the real monster. I think of Wish, as a dark counterpart to Beauty and the Beast, as what could have happened if Gaston won, like Asha. The Beast🤴🏻-King Magnifico 🤴🏻 Gaston💪🏻-Asha 🪄
To be fair Gaston had no way to know better. He only knew of a monster and only ever saw the mirror showing off said monster. The only other thing he knew about Beast was he had kept Belle captive for a while. He might have thought Beast was a monster just like the made the others think. Asha knew the king only didn't grant dangerous wishes, and just forgot to tell others that fact. At least, I think. Never saw wish, been a while since I've seen B&B
Gaston was a hero, like he was a strong warrior keeping bandits away and ensuring the village peace, he never harmed or blackmailed the village and everyone liked him, just that the one woman he loves got kidnapped by a big scary monster, which he knew he can't take on by himself, so he asked the village to help save belle.
Never saw the movie. But the concept of the "hero" saying "grant all wishes" made me go "Yeah. No. I'm sure the king had four books documenting the severity of the wishes. Harmless/childish, Dangerous, Kingdom Damaging, and World ending. In the harmless/childish one are wishes like "I wish I had Roller Skats." or "I wish my parents were happy" or "I wish I had a pony." None of these are too bad. The Dangerous ones are ones like "I wish I knew how to kill my husband" Or "I wish my boyfriend hated his family." those wishes are dangerous because the boyfriend could hate his family so much he kills them. And the person wanting to kill their husband now knows how to kill other people too, and might like it. Kingdom damaging would be wishes like "I wish we didn't have walls" or "I wish I was a master thief" or "I wish I was rich" or "I wish we didn't have Guards" these ones should be clear. A master thief? There goes money and art and the economy poofs. No walls? What happens when an invading army comes for say...oh...wish powers? No defenses. No guards? No defenses or law keeping. Rich? Bye bye to the economy and they might pay people to revolt. Then the scarier category. World Ending. "I wish I was an Alcamist" or "I wish I had a Zombie Unicorn". Alcamist? You'd think it's fine. Until they split an atom. Then they have nukes. And if one invading force shows up? BOOM, bye bye world. That Zombie Unicorn? One bite to a human, then another and another. Now the world is 28 Days later or World War Z all because some kid wanted a cool looking horned horse." So yeah. I hate this concept.
If only the plot- in my opinion- could have been like this: Because Asha thought she could get away with it, Magnifico uses some magic wherein she is in a world where all wishes are granted. Or Starboy (from the original concept) hears King Magnifico's deepest wish, which is "I wish she could understand me" and bams. At first in the world she wished, it was fine. But then she sees conflict and etc. This causes her to feel conflicted. And she revokes her wish. She starts becoming sad. Magnifico and the queen (forgot her name) then tell her that not all wishes need magic. They can be done with perseverance etc. And that is why we should always "be careful of what you wish for". THE END
Not only that: some wishes may be mutually exclusive or contradictory to other people's wishes. (Example: a person wants it to be Autumn all year round in the kingdom, another person wants it to be Spring all year round in the kingdom) How will these contradictions get resolved? Granting one but not the other? Neither of them?
What if two people wish to win the same contest? What if two people wish for one person to be madly in love with them? **What if someone wished for Magnifico to be king again???**
I'm the only one that realized Asha wish was what turned the King evil. When the star came down because of Asha wish it corrupted the King because for her wish to before filled the people needed to turn against him, and easiest way just to have him become what Asha thought he was.
Once someone wishes for a pet dragon and it gets out of hand with people being burnt to death and the entire Kingdom ending up in flames, I don't wanna hear her concerning.
I want to be the most handsome and smart. If everyone asks this, everyone will be the most beautiful and smart. Consequently, no one is the prettiest or most intelligent. The very concept of everyone's wishes is totally stupid.
You also have to consider the world too. The king founded Rosa because of war and conflict in the world. Simply put his magic and power kept the kingdom safe from outside aggression. Unless you think Asha had the same power and ability to defend the country, it's pretty doomed long term as well.
Not only that but when you think about it this is a nation of refuges formed at most 50 years ago. How many people came to Rosa to get away from something terrible that they wished to forget and Magnifico granted there wish by keeping it.
Even if the people in this movie didn't wish for 'bad things', this 'let's grant EVERYONE's wishes' message is stupid. some people can only have their wish granted if other people's wish doesn't come true - even without any malice or anything. theres even videos and works of culture that potray this problem. i have no idea how Disney would come up with such a stupid message.
Yeah Like what if two or more people wished to be "the most beautiful person in the world". In order to have that title, only one person can be that because only one person can get 1st place. Who would be the one to get it? When the others find out that Asha made someone else beautiful other than them, they're going to harass her and demand their wish to come true because of the precedent Asha set.
In the movie they can justify it as much as they want by saying "B-but everyone in Rosas is a good person! No one wished for anything bad!" But in real life that message doesn't carry over because bad people very much exist, and in every corner of the planet. Heck, even decent people can still have selfish or harmful wishes without realizing it.
@@DragonGoddess18 I agree with your overall sentiment, but the wish of being “the most beautiful person in world” could be a wish granted to multiple people. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. Example: I’m not generally attracted to dainty hyper-feminine women, but many others are. Different cultures also have varying standards of beauty, so someone who is “the most beautiful person” in one society might not be seen as such in another. A better example for a wish that multiple people might have that doesn’t have such a subjective variable might be someone wishing to be the tallest human, or have the strongest arms.
Disney: Everyone's wish should be granted! Literally everyone with at least one brain cell: that is a very bad idea for these two very logical reasons....
one thing i've wondered about the movie is why did the star arrive and to me its a wish that was to dethrone him or to ruin his kingdom. the only reason why I think that the star is a wish to dethrone him/ruin his kingdom is because of its actions. 1.it purposefully goes to those who didn't like the kingdom so that they will assist in the kings downfall(as seen during the encounter between the pair the king overwhelms the star but with assistance with others it can overwhelm the king) 2. it purposefully used Sasha to get into the king study room and rather than grant the wishes shown in there; it instead decided to try to set all of the research ablaze of which is the reason why I believe that the particular research the king was studying is something important since it did set those specific documents ablaze. 3. they made sure to secure the position of ruler to a childish person who will indiscriminately grant peoples wishes and care about the consequences later
Me: “I wish you biblioklepts realize þat everybody did not remember þeir wishes before Asha freed þem. So now þey can work on þose wishes þemselves wiþout waiting an eternity for a omnipotent being to grant þem. Also if you watch þe end of þe movie, Þe person who wanted to fly did not fly but was encouraged to collaborate wiþ a person who wanted to make a flying machiene”
Even if we assumed every single person there had zero ulterior motives, this could easily end miserably. First thing that comes to mind is the "I want to be immortal" wish. Going by other stories on that topic, there'd be the "immortal doesn't equal invulnerable", so you'd have people walking around who lost limbs, have broken neck etc and are in constant physical pain. There'd also be the psychological side with people having lived for centuries who are mentally tired and just want it to end...
@@Hiraishin247 Yeah, even the "erasing someone from existence" part aside, imagine how much it would throw off past events that person had even a tiny influence on, butterfly effect here we go.
The Kingdom will be in complete ruins and its people scatter or enslaved by surrounding kingdoms by then. Who's he going to save at that point? His wife apparenty never even loved him, his people only worshiped him because he granted them free residence and the occasional wish, there seemed to be no one who was loyal to him... Disney writers really know how to make someone feel like nothing.
This movie wouldn't have sucked, if they actually portrayed Asha as the Villain and Magnifico as a Good Guy. Seriously, it'd have been more entertaining. 😊
I think what frustrates me the most about this movie is that they only needed to do TWO THINGS to fix it. The first being Magnifico only granting wishes that benefited him. That would be evil. I know that when people gave him their wishes they forgot what they wished for but that’s more morally gray, if they wanted to make him clearly evil they should’ve made him obviously selfish. The second thing was have Asha learn throughout the movie that you CANNOT grant everyone’s wishes. When star was granting everyone’s wishes in the musical number it could’ve turned into chaos and made Asha aware how dangerous it is to grant everyone’s wishes. Then the plot could’ve resumed as normal, with Asha returning the wishes so people could remember a part of themselves that they lost, and at the end she could’ve still had the ability to grant wishes but promised to be wise and careful about it because she learned the hard way what would happen if she made everyone’s dreams come true. BUT HEY WHAT DO I KNOW
Funnily enough, the show "The Fairy Oddparents" actually solved the same plot hole Wish created. If a wish is too dangerous, it just isn't granted. It's funny how a show that came out almost 30 years earlier then wish solved the same plot hole Wish forgot.
imagine everyone wished for 'enough money so i dont have to work anymore' then no one grew food, fixed roads and houses, or did anything. everyone has their money but no one is selling the things they need to survive
Even if the Wishes aren't malevolent in nature they could still hurt someone. Say someone wishes for someone to love them, the one they love could already be with someone else. Farmers could wish for their farms to produce more food, be it crops or livestock, than they can keep up with along with value going down. Heck you might even get a King Midas situation!
@@Disneyfan82 Jealousy for one example. If they go outside the country and play, revealing that they wished their talent, struggling musicians probably won't take to very well. Or maybe they're compelled to keep on playing until everyone is satisfied but if everyone has different taste in music or just doesn't like it then they'll play forever or until they die. And then there's Peter Griffin background wish. Imagine being that guy.
@@shadowdragonlord2295 I still fail to see the problem which I think is just Magnifico trying to manipulate others into believing that all wishes are bad to justify destroying them and breaking a part of what makes that person whole.
@@Disneyfan82 Which he did due to the Wish for more power to stop Asha. Magnifico is the evidence himself that Wishes can go wrong (He was likely wary of others wishes, due to himself feeling the temptation of the Wishes). It also seems to me that Disney was trying to say the source/intention of the Wish granter is the important part in making wishes turn out to be good or bad. It also makes me wonder about how much control a wish granter would have over each wish? (which they did poorly, otherwise we wouldnt have so much discussion about it, unless this was Disney's intention.)
@@Scarletcroft Magnifico started out with good intentions most likely until he became mad with power which corrupted him into believing that any wishes and dreams he seems problematic must be destroyed without thinking of how dangerous that can be for the people.
It's super duper creepy this movie implies EVERY SINGLE person, except the king, is a good person whose wish deserves to be granted. Like you said at the beginning, what about people who want to steal, hurt, and kill people? They never bring that up in their weird dystopian kingdom. What I live by: world peace won't be possible, because as long as one person doesn't want "peace", which in reality is way more than just one, this twisted idea of peace will never come to be among humans. I don't want world peace myself, because would that mean I have to let murders evil people alone to their own peace? There's no way everyone will all of a sudden stop being evil or horrible for this peace. I couldn't let evil people to their "peace" because it affects people, especially me and my family. This movie is written and executed by idiots. They say AI wrote the script, it might have helped, but I think it's someone who legit doesn't know how to write a story well and is just an activist who writes through impulse, never once revisiting their points and wondering why people don't like it. I'm a hobby writer, not published, but the shit going on with movies and stories in general pisses me off so much
There’s plenty of stories that show us how wishing can go horribly wrong. You must be very specific, and direct on your intent. Not for a second, thinking you have full control of a wish. Because wishes, can be easily twisted: The Monkey’s Paw, Midas’ Golden Touch, Aladdin and the Magic Lamp, even Destiny 2’s Ahamakara-wish granting dragons-all show us how easily things can change with unforeseen consequences. When desire meets reality.
Imagine that as a small girl you wish that your mother gets better. Now imagine that a couple of ours later you tied up both you and your mother, in the bed of some creepo.
As a Pathfinder player, I really appreciate that you point out the importance of vagueness. Our RPG stories are full of people who wish for perfectly reasonable things, only to get blindsided by apocalyptic consequences when they don't define clearly what they want. Granting everybody in an entire kingdom all their wishes while those people are being extremely carelessly vague and defining nothing is an extinction-level event.
Anyone who's familiar with Dungeons and Dragons knows full well how much a seemingly innocuous bit of magic - like having a wand that can open teeny tiny portals into the Feywild, or having a stick that will always come back to you when you throw it, or having a ring that dispels whatever enchantment passes through its bore - can, with a REALLY devious party, end up being campaign-breaking and catastrophic. Evil people aren't going to up and wish, "Hey, can I get an everlasting supply of gunpowder for a weapon?" They'll say, "Hey, my kids are always cold during the winter. I wish for a little ever-burning fire that they can put in a jar and carry around and open up whenever it's chilly! Oh, maybe one that won't even go out underwater so they can use it to heat up water for tea!" then use that eternal, waterproof fire for a little steam-powered propulsion system that they can launch things with. Silly example, maybe, but people CONSTANTLY take advantage of naivety and goodwill to do harm and benefit themselves.
You just reminded me of a DM who used the party's own immovable stick to cut their new airship clean in half during take off as revenge for how they've been using it to destroy his campaign. I don't remember what DnD podcast it was since it was ages ago, but that had me cackling.
I would really like to see a sequel or at least a movie addressing the consequences of Asha's decisions and actions. Maybe from the perspective of a traveling bard who so happens to come across the ruined remains of that kingdom...
At this point I support petitioning Dreamworks to make a legally distinct King Magnifico story. King Asombrosa has to stop Ishi’s recklessly naive attempt to make everyone’s dreams come true.
True, If two people wish "I want to be the best (insert something here) One of them is not going to get their wish. Or they would be in perpetual competition/war. Also in life we always need something to wish for/ strive for or we lose our drives People always have more wishes. This is also why the Wish spell in DnD is mostly restricted. The DM decides what happens when the wish is granted. Sheesh just think about stories with wish granting Djinn's, Every wish has consequences
My horrifying thought is that some peoples' wishes are *incompatible* with each other. Some people say "I want to be an artist", and people love their art, but maybe not enough to pay enough money to be "well off". Whereas someone who did just outright ask to be rich gets money. The Artist wisher also happens to be an "Eat the Rich" sort of person, and suddenly you have civil war and class warfare because you've given wishes that *create* class strife. So easy, the artist wishes to *also* be rich. But then you run into the problem of "how come HE gets TWO wishes???", now to make it "fair" you have to grant rich wish guy another wish. But then you have to grant *everyone* two wishes. But then someone who gets two wishes looks over and sees that musically inclined wish maker is getting a bunch of sexy girls fawning over him, so now artist and rich wish guy say "Hey wait, I wish I had the charisma to get women to go for me too!" And now there are THREE wishes in play- how long does it take before Asha/Wishing Star is worn down by people screeching GIMMEGIMMEGIMME and the wishing magic is depleted or whatever, or people start murdering each other demanding that they have all the wishes to make them omnipotent? It's just hairbrained at the end of the day.
Wishes are literally a desire for a certain dream to come true. And for every person who dreams up the light bulb. There's someone who dreams up the atomic bomb.
It says so much about the writers of this movie that they made the demon possessed usurper who is going to do the kingdom into the "hero". The wishing Star granting everybody's wishes is exactly the kind of thing a demon would do to sew chaos and then stop granting wishes at the worst moment possible. Or just keep reading so many wishes that the world gets twisted into something unrecognizable.
This is what we call entitlement: the desire to have everything without working for it, the desire for power without responsibility. If you want to know if a law/rule system is fair, check how much power and responsibility the different participants have. A system where some have power without responsibility, and others responsibility without power, is a broken system that is doomed to crash and burn.
If you ask me this movie could have been something similar to encanto if they planned it right like it could have been the people of Rosa’s constantly wanting wishes and only Saw him as a god instead of a kind leader but with the king having limited power so he couldn’t grant all of them so it would change the people’s memories when he was in able to grant them with Asha getting the job as assistant to help with keeping the peace with the townspeople beginning to turn on him calling him a liar and a false god even with the good he has done for them ,now that sounds good
The moment when a Russian convict from Iron Man 2 has better advice than the message of Disney's 100th anniversary film: HEY MAN, DON'T GET TOO ATTACHED TO THINGS. LEARN TO LET GO.
In the end that Kingdom turn into something like a premise of a Dark Soul Game. In the end of this game. You'll have to chop up Asha and the Queen's head and burn it at the pit and release the souls of everyone in the kingdom.
I want a wish sequel to be about a guy whose wish is to win the heart of one of Asha’s friends, who isn’t into him. She grants the wish, and has to undo the wish when she realized she magicked away her friends free will, maybe with the help of a certain magic mirror saying “told ya so”
So if every wish deserves to be granted, people can just wish that they can grant wishes as well which can lead to a whole can of worms.. Its weird because at some point Asha would have to say “no” to some of these wishes which could lead to basically becoming another Magnifico by restricting certain wishes, thus repeating the cycle again.
I'm just wondering. Disney was throwing many references to their work in this. Maybe this is origin of all these Disney movies. Maybe she didn't kill everyone, but transformed them into different fairytales characters. Just take Snow White. Someone wished to be most beautiful queen (maybe this queen from Wish, because she has mirror) and she became wife of king in some land. Someone didn't like these 7 'friends' and wished them to be small and work hard or something (maybe they thought they look down on them or something). So 7 dwarfs was born. Small miners that live in poverty in forest who knows where. What about Genie? Someone (arrogant who likes to boss others) wished to be most powerful but someone, who was bullied by him, wanted him as servant. Two wishes contradicted and result? Genie who is OP but trapped in lamp. I think that kingdom was torn apart by wishes and it's remains created most of fairy tales. Nice origin story for Disney. Most citizens probably don't remember who they were. They are similar to Agata from Wandavision. They fate may be worse that death. (Depending who you ask).
one thing i noticed about about Magnifico taking the wishes: it is probably for many ppl a significant improvement. I mean is there anything more heartbreaking than chasing a dream with all your might only to fail in achieving it? ppl can dream about being capable athletes but not everyone can achieve that, no matter how hard they train. it's not only the bad wishes Magnifico took he took those that are hopeless. and since ppl forgot their wishes they wouldn't miss em and chances their second biggest wish were way easier to achieve were probably way higher. what Magnifico did was a less extreme version of what happened in the movie Equilibrium.
its wierd how magnifico looks and acts like a great guy in every way up until the writers decided they needed justify him getting dethroned and replaced with a foolish child.
Asha basically overthrew what seems like a living, thriving kingdom that has stood for a couple of decades at least. While her friends sang songs and said that they were "oppressed" there was absolutely no evidence to show that oppression existed. Also, if they really wanted to show that Wishes could be good. Why the hell didn't Asha's grandpa start the reprisal of "This Wish"? He wanted to inspire people, so why the hell didn't he sing it to make that wish come true? At the very least it would give him a character arc or something to work with.
In my personal opinion, I don't think every will die, but I do think that the kingdom will more than likely fall if you were to grant every wish the is going to be so many contradictions if it's just done on a wim
In addition to everything said in this video, you have to remember that a wish made with good intentions can still lead to a bad result if it's not thought out enough.
I fully believe Amaya was actually an evil sorceress who manipulated Magnifico into snapping. This story would have been so much better if Magnifico just had extreme anxiety and that was his deal, not “I’m actually secretly a narcissist.” Not that it would’ve saved it. The songs had nothing to do with the actual movie or context. Husband I watched this and then we watched Cats just to see which we disliked more. Just letting y’all know, I smiled and had a good time ironically watching Cats. I only cracked a half smile once during Wish, and that was for the deer joke. Wish is genuinely the worst Disney movie I’ve ever seen. There is no enjoyment to be had there.
How come nobody else is pointing out that The Princess and the Frog did the whole "Dreams will only come true if you make them come true yourself" message a whole lot better? I mean, Tiana worked at least two jobs to save for her very own restaurant, and she ALMOST had it! Yes, she had to pull some strings that DID require magic, but she already had all the money she needed to fund it. If anything, THAT'S more inspirational than anything Asshat did in the entire movie!
Just conflicting wishes would cause disaster. One person wants everyday to be Christmas and another wants everyday to be a summer day. Plus if everyone who wants to be rich is given a million dollars it would crash their economy.
"Everybody's wish will be granted." What if one wishes for "world peace" through world conquest, or to basically become the emperor of mankind, not realizing the toll it would take on humanity?
