Why Feminists Actually Fear The Decline Of Men In Colleges 

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My mom cried when I told here I started driving a truck, said "what am I going to tell my friends my sons a damn truck driver" now im making 6 figs she says I always supported you... f outta here.

Men figured out college is a joke.

College is a racket. I failed a class, when I retook the class I had to buy the "new" textbook for nearly $200 and the only difference was the chapters were moved around.

In Finland (my home country) was done a research where they found a bias against boys in school. When exams were reviewed anonymously girls’ scores got worse and boys’ scores got better. Here you have to know that in Finland we pay nothing for our education (except some materials; books, computers etc.) Diploma from past studies (and in some cases entrance exams) determines to which school one is able to get in later in life. They even recently changed the system in a way that diplomas now has a lot bigger emphasis than ever before. Speaking about structural inequality. Also men has mandatory military service which will pretty much always put them one year behind on their careers. Also women are allowed to voluntarily participate to the military service in the name of equality. They even have an option to drop out during the first three months if they don’t like it there.

"Men trying to live simple trouble free lives, women most affected"

I am 66 year old and just returned to college to complete my degree. The overwhelming narrative against men and how women are portrayed as victims of men combined with gender identify focus in every course makes me uncomfortable. If I were a male I would be looking for anyway to avoid a university setting.

When the only message they hear constantly is that they are predators, why would men want to be around people who constantly portray themselves as victims?

The reason is simple. There is no incentives for young men to put themselves through college today. Guys used to finish college in hopes of getting the salary job, and the big house and car in order to support a family. Now, most men realize that they will never be able to start a family, so why bother pulling yourself through 4 years when I can drive a floor zamboni at the local mall and make enough to live comfortably by myself?

Then: "Men dominating college. Women suffering." Now: "Men dropping out of college. Women suffering." Get outta here.

I'm a mechanic specializing in rotating equipment, making 130k+ a year with expenses payed for single no kids 41 years old , And all i have is High school diploma .

when I was in college, I had to take a sociology class. It was lame. The professor was an older lesbian lady who literally hit on the girls (subtly) in class and would compliment them in cringy ways and belittle the men who didn't conform with her opinions. The class was also just that: opinions. Sociology is NOT a science, and that kind of sums up that part of my college experience.

Imagine the majority of men teaming up to walk away from society. Refusing to work or support anyone. It would all change overnight.

My son did electronics engineering and had one female on the course. They took her and used her in all the advertising and gave her all the support. She failed all the exams and her image is still being used to advertise the engineering course. The men were almost ignored.

There was an article in the Guardian written by a successful lady who was complaining about the lack of men of a higher socio-economic level, she argued 'why should I have lower my standards and DATE DOWN' what made me laugh, at no point did it enter her head, that the man she wants, using her standards would be 'DATING DOWN' in this world of equality why would a man want a women of a lower socioeconomic level?

Putting it bluntly, about why men aren't going to college anymore; Why would you willingly worship at a temple that sees you as anathema to its faith and world-view?

I abandoned university for trade school. Now I’m a licensed electrician and making more money than most 4-year entry level graduates. The trades tend to attract men more than women because they are more physically demanding. Couple that with the decline of tradesmen as the older generation retires, which leaves a large gap in the workforce, and the state of the economy, careers in the trades can be quite attractive to men who simply want to provide for their families. Best decision I ever made.

Women: "there are no good men." Guy: "plumbers need girlfriends" Women: "i wont date a plumber!" Guy: "it was good enough for princess Peach." Women: "she's a fictional character" Guy: "so are the men u r looking for" Women: *bans guy from conversation. :D

More and more RU-vid channels gets comments like "I learn more from you than I did in high school/college." Shows just how unaccommodating to learning school has become in recent years.

I am a university prof, married 21 years to a firefighter. I am more educated but he is my intellectual equal. Education and IQ are not the same thing. Hell, my colleagues are so dumb sometimes, I want to leave my job.

I worked for an oil and mineral exploration company and had a coworker who only had a high school diploma but was making several hundred dollars a day for many years. We tended not to shave letting our beards grow out of control due to the hours and conditions of work. We went to an upscale restaurant with a patio. He sat down to eat in the patio while we went to the bathroom. While waiting a well-dressed woman walked up to him as he was reading the menu and handed him a twenty-dollar bill for his meal due to him looking homeless. The man owns three houses (paid off) and was complaining to us that he doesn't want to go through the hassle of furnishing them. He took the twenty-dollar bill and laughed.

As an art student in 2000's, there were 50-50 distribution in students. Coming back as a teacher in 2015 male students were SO HAPPY to see a male teacher and they LOVED being taught something without feminist blame (i taught philosophy). Apparently the whole toxic feminist narrative had taken over the curriculum in art school.

I busted my ass trying to honor my parents wishes to graduate college. I managed to graduate debt free but undeniably my time would have been better spent learning a trade. Plumbers are out there making as much as doctors rn without all the legal liability. Best part is for trade guys is that you're making bank while the rest of society look down on tradesmen as being poor.

University is no longer a “higher” education. Why is a degree in “Women’s Studies” higher than carpentry, plumbing and electrician training? We have to modernize our language around this issue.

I'm a high school teacher in Canada and a contract lecturer at a university. For years, we've churned out massive numbers with degrees who cannot find jobs because of market saturation. This has led to a shortage in the skilled trades, which require less schooling and pay much better than an entry level degree job. Men are more likely to choose skilled trades. It's more practical than political.

Men are better at cost/benefit analysis. They see better opportunities in the trades. Give it 10 years and women will be complaining about the societal expectation to go to college.

College is 49% busywork, 49% unnecessary details (that you will forget the day after rhe exam), and 2% knowledge

I got an engineering degree, almost went to machining trade school like my buddy. When i graduated my community college engineering transfer program and started at the state school, he was done with trade school making bank. By the time I graduated engineering and was making 60k starting he was well into 6 figures. Got himself into running building size large form factor CNC machines. He chose the right path. I'm super happy for him, kicking butt, making bank.

I'm a LEO, doing my best to be the kind of cop you're happy to see arrive when it goes wrong. I didnt go to university. I don't need the validation and called BS on it early on. My 2 best friends both studied engineering, got a 2:1 grade. I make decent money, not the kind you see online but slightly more than most my age. One of my buddies makes the same as me in IT, the other makes minimum wage at a warehouse. Didn't help them or hinder me at all. They should, theoretically, make much more than I do. It's frankly offensive that they got into debt for no real roi

I've talked to young men who went to college and they feel vilified by the institutions most of them dropped out after a semester or two. Said there was only room for one ideology on college campus.

"Men going broke, lacking education opportunities, ending up homeless and suicidal. Women most affected"

I think you underestimate the media’s ability to suppress and devalue information they think is counter to their narrative.

I think this coincides with the stats showing young men are leaning conservative. College told men they were the problem...so men are leaving. In the end, only people who intend to build a career doing hard intellectual work should be going to college anyway. So many of the degrees are easy and pointless.

University is just Kindergarten for adults at this point.

20th century: men doing the ROI on college education and realising that it's positive. 21st century: men doing the ROI on college education and realising that it's negative.

Why waste the money and time when there is a raging bias against men by colleges and employers?

Imagine claiming to be an equity movement while simultaneously being more concerned about your narrative being threatened by reality.

As a guy in college I’ve realized something. My peers who are male and not in college are already employed and doing well for themselves, not in debt. I’m grateful to not be in debt because I work a lot but I’ve realized that many men don’t want to go through that bull just to get a degree for a job that pays less than a job without a degree requirement. Some of my friends went to mechanic schools, welding, real estate and are already making six figures at 22. Most college degrees are completely worthless in the grand scheme of things.

Historically, men create the paths ("trailblazers") and women start following the path when it becomes more convenient or more widely accepted as the norm. Young men are merely the first to see the failure of colleges, and abandon ship - young women will undoubtedly follow if the trend continues.

I worked the same job, same rank, same paycheck with college graduates at a warehouse. The social and economic value of a college degree dropped significantly in the last 5 years.

2024 viewer here. It is funny how colleges don't see why young men are leaving. #1 It is too expensive. #2 You aren't guaranteed a job out of college any longer. #3 Bachelor Degrees are too common, you need a Masters Degree now to stand out from the rest of the field during the hiring process. #4 The Education system sucks regardless. #5 You have to pay the first 2 years of college learning nothing that pertains to the degree you are working towards, which proves that High School is corrupt as it stand as you had to take core classes back then without an idea of what you wanted to do most of the time. #6 Most young people don't know what the hell to do with themselves after High School and a good sum of those either don't go to college immediately and delay it, attend and then drop out midway or just don't go altogether. #7 Male discrimination. #8 Woke teachers. #9 No courses worth taking at a college instead trade school have actual courses that will lead to immediate work after finishing.

I'm a male with two Master's degrees and 3 bachelor's degrees and I'm here to tell you, sooner or later women have to recognize that educational acheivement doesn't determine the worth of the man nor whether he'll be good to you. I have friends that are working class males that are good to their families and on almost every standard a better human than I am. They don't teach Better Human 101 in colleges.

I did a manufacturing engineering degree at Uni and it was a quality course. However, the idea that anyone with a liberal arts degree is more "educated" than a man with a skilled trade is laughable.

......but if a man gets a Master's and applies for a job, the (usually female) gatekeeper will say that he's "overqualified".

Most Masters degrees are a minimum of two years and usually requires prior real life experience where you have to show how you can apply the knowledge from your Bachelor’s, however these days so many universities are so desperate for students that they will just accept you for your fees. It usually an “honours” or “cum laude” that is the extra year on top of your bachelors, but it’s still not equivalent to a masters degree.

As a student veteran currently attending Ohio University in Athens OH, not only do men face significant negative stigma from the institution itself, but the classes we're forced to take are borderline worthless. If I need an IT degree, why do I need to learn "Black history this, womens' studies that" Its pointless. We're isolated, the women are impossible to talk to, and dropping out is looking better and better each day.

Guys just aren't built up the same way as girls are. I don't remember a single encouraging word from a parent or elder, never mind encouraging toward post secondary. Just got thrown to the wolves in a 'figure it out, bud' type of manner, while simultaneously being jobless, on welfare and having incredibly low self esteem/thoughts of suicide. Just my own experience but some of my friends have had a similar upbringing and experience. I can't even remember the last time someone gave me any kind of compliment or encouragement, and you can't even think about higher ed when its like that. I didn't even have time to think about post secondary, frankly.

I attended university for a couple years in my mid-twenties. Being a few years older allowed me to have a better perspective. The whole thing felt like adult daycare. Every class was an exercise in infantilization, where the standards were equivalent to freshman year in high school. So OF COURSE I dropped out!

I’m gonna take a stab in the dark before watching the video and say they don’t want men to completely abandon universities so they have someone to blame for their problems.

Men are dropping out of college, and women are most affected. Says a lot about society and how men IMO are treated like second-class citizens.

I work in a University in the UK where 64% of the students/graduates are women. Despite this there are University-wide programmes to get more women into STEM, engineering bursaries for women only, and a pervasive narrative that women are still fighting for 'equality'. In subjects where the cohort is approximately 80% women (Primary education for example), there are no comparable incentives to get more men to pursue these degrees (at least not in my University). This is not an accident. It's a by-product of institutional capture.

It's worse than the 60-40 distribution would suggest. The more elite the set of schools the bigger that gap is. Dropping SAT and focusing only on GPA at competitive schools is making it worse still.

There was a bias against men in college back in the mid to late 1970's when I attended university. Especially in any class where women outnumbered the men. The professors and TAs also started joining in and piling on was noticeable.

My twin brother refused to go to college, and rightfully so. He said he felt like “a pilgrim in an unholy land” and that “being forced to go to school by law until age 18 was bad enough”. Schools are just anti-male gulags, and the whole education/academic system is also anti male, so they avoid that viper’s nest.

I started college to get a degree in computer programming. After I realized that nearly 90% of the classes they made you take had nothing to do with actual programming I left school behind. Fast forward to today, with no degree, I make well over $100k per year developing software. Meanwhile, I have "friends" who have masters degrees that try to shame me for not having a degree. This person tried to actually ridicule me for not having a degree, until I said, ok, you show me your paycheck and what you have in savings and I'll show you mine and we'll see who is doing better to test your theory that you need a degree to be successful.

I’m an administrator at a top 25 world university so I know what I’m talking about. Unless you are getting a STEM degree, university is a waste of time. And investing that amount of money so you can get a date is a nonstarter.

I think a big part of this is men can find alternative careers, particularly in trades that allow them to have good-paying jobs without the burden of extreme educational debt. The avenue of trades-based jobs are pathways that most women are not willing to follow so they are stuck on this cycle of universities and debt.

The worse part is.... Many women feel empowered by these useless degrees that they are crushing in debt but look down their nose at blue collar men. The man could be making six figures while she's in six figures debt but she somehow thinks she's better than him. And refuses to "date down"

I had this moment a few years ago where I remember checking out the notice board for activities going on. I saw scholarship offers exclusively for women, celebrate women in stem, women's only activity groups (various), support women's bball etc., and safe spaces for women to talk to other women. There was not a single general activity on the board (at that time), and nothing for men. It really made me feel out of place. I only wish I had taken a picture of that board that I saw that day.

I saw affirmative action, I saw how I was never promoted in school, everyone treated me like crap, I was medicated out of my mind and didn't want to be, I barely survived. I instinctively knew that no corporate office would ever touch me. I wasn't economically viable for corporate bureaucracy. So I didn't bother to try hard. It isn't what you know, it's who you know and no one wants to know me.

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And, many of these women, when they get into the workforce, are disillusioned and unhappy with the grind and are quitting the jobs they were told they should want by feminists.

I think it is worth divorcing the concept of “higher education” from University. People can (& should) continue learning throughout their lives. They do not need University for that. In fact, the University lecture format is one of the least effective methods of education.

College wasn't hostile towards men when I attended (06-10). College was sort of fun and I learned some things that made me a more well-rounded person, but a liberal arts degree was already worthless back then. I ended up starting a business post college which has now grown pretty large. I learned the real value of hard work and way more practical business knowledge than a degree (although I do wish I majored in business). For years I've felt college is a racket and you are perfectly capable of buying and reading books, watching videos, or just trying to learn through practical experience. I've met a lot of people with good, high paying jobs with security. My single largest investor is an electrician. If you feel college is appropriate, go for it. It really just depends on what job you're seeking. It's what you do post-college that counts.

3:34 to 3:55 this is *so* accurate to me haha! ADHD af, went nuts in college. Did well but hated it. Couldn’t wait to get out and work.

I'm a mother of a daughter and a son. My husband and I discouraged our son from going to college (he had the brain for it, but not the temperament) and encouraged our daughter to go - but only as far as it was free for her. Even back then we knew that tens of thousands of dollars in student loans would hamper her ability to mother her children as she saw fit. We had set aside the means for both of them, but we had to be realistic. Our daughter's a female. She doesn't have the brawn to earn a decent living with labor. But our son was an athlete with the mind of an engineer. Sure enough, the week after he graduated he had a job starting at $25 an hour as a machinist apprentice. A year later he'd found his bliss as a tower climber with a pay of $45 an hour plus overtime and a career path. Our daughter could NEVER have had such an easy time in the trades. Her only potential was with an education. Happily, she found her bliss as a SAHM and a part time realtor to supplement her husband's income - and she didn't bring debt with her into the marriage. And there it is. Our son could NEVER have married well and lived off his mate's salary while he maintained the home fires. I don't think it's that men are being driven away from colleges as much as they're finding better opportunities elsewhere. The reality is that men and women are different and they have different talents to offer society. If there really is a feminist panic about men not going to school it's only because this puts men out of reach of the emotional manipulation and brainwashing.

Men dropping out of college just tells me that they are not going into debt with student loans. My dad was working class and he made more that a lot of college graduates I knew. And he had very little debt. He was also able to raise a family of six on one income because he had no debts.

My plumber told he decided to learn a trade after he left the US Army. He went into a 2 year apprentiship and is now earing close to 6 figures with a long career ahead of him. He has no debt except a new car and he just goty married and has a child. He is happy and he is one heck of a plumber!

It's not worth the cost anymore

The response of “if it is 2:1 - all you have to do is get in” proves he wasn’t listening to the previous things Chris said. Being in college isn’t enough for those women. A 5’5” guy in college doesn’t have to “just get in” and then get a choice between two women. They still ignore him

I just graduated with a Law degree and it was a complete waste of 4 years. Learnt absolutely nothing and every single person was an insane political/woke/feminist tyrant.

Young men are not going to college like they used to, but that does not by any means mean men are falling behind. They are simply entering trade schools and other places where they can gain marketable skills. A skilled tradesman will always outperform a college graduate with a worthless degree. As a CPA and tax preparer, I've seen blue-collar tradesmen make more than doctors. It happens all the time.

Very interesting discussion. I like how you intelligently address the different facets of this topic. Subscribed!

Ok , but question still stands , why would I invest myself in a society that hates me ?

I quit college at year 3 on a 4 year. Best thing college did for me was expose the scam of education. Went back to welding work for myself.

They just want men with money for "someone to PAY FOR ME". Not worth it. Never help, never approach, never never marry.

Nailed it.

i think once the general population found out that you cant wipe away student loans through bankruptcy is when alot of people started thinking about college differently.

Interesting conversation. I am over 60 and female. When I went to college (decades ago), it was "clear" that having a degree was going to give me an advantage. HOWEVER, the cost for my college education was...FREE. At that time, in NYC, the City Colleges were free for men and women. There was no concern about having an enormous debt at the time of graduation. In other areas of the country, the cost was significant, but nothing like it has become. Colleges these days, as you have noted, are no longer in the business of education. I won't be surprised if, over time, numbers start to decline for women as well.

This was very very interesting.

As the mother of 3 sons, I can attest to the fact that exalting girls over boys in the government schools has been the norm for 15 years now.

Fourty years ago when I went to college, we were told you go to college to learn how to learn. Employers hired people with liberal arts degrees because these people were SMART. They read books and could learn new things. Colleges today don't mold critical thinkers, but indoctrinate their students into the professors beliefs which they reward with grades and degrees. Employers who hire these students have a difficult time training them in their jobs. You might as well hire someone off the street with no college and are eager to learn.

Men dying, women most affected.

I grew up at a daycare where we watched ALL of the disney movies, as a young boy i saw a stong morally just male protagonist who saved the princess. But turns out the girls in daycare werent in awe of the morally just prince. They were in awe of the fuckin castle and attention.

“The only guys who wins are high performing men.” If by win you mean get married, then I’d rather not win.

People never understood why I was against college so much, until what I said came true: "Would you rather be poor and in debt, or just poor???"

"Educated." I wish women would stop implying their MA in Anthropology is something even close to the same level as my MS in Chemical Engineering. The overwhelming majority of these girls' majors only inform me they are good at wasting time and money.

Prestige is earned! Not affirmative action or quota filling exercise .

The trouble with college today is that they've convinced everyone that nearly every career requires a degree. It used to be that people only went to a university for a high-level discipline, i.e. attorney, doctor, engineer etc. Now there are so many degree programs out there that are at best unnecessary and at worst utterly useless. I think men are just wising up to this fact, and are opting to avoid taking on a massive amount of debt just so they can get an entry level job that doesn't pay very much.

I'm an archaeologist and I've had to do a lot of schooling, and It's crazy how empty a lot of college curriculum are even at the graduate level. Part of the postmodern ideology within the humanities is that facts/objectivity/positivism are considered colonial/patriarchal concepts. You'll hear history professors say things like "I don't care if you memorize the dates, as long as you get the gist of it." Every paper needs to have some modern crusade shoehorned in, and grading undergraduate papers will teach you that a lot of students can barely string a sentence together, but professors still give them passing grades. Archaeologists in anthropology departments usually can't break down the period they study in detail from memory, can't recognize artifacts easily, and most of their publications are critical deconstructions of the work done by researchers in previous decades. Classics professors often consider their own discipline to be racist because it puts a special emphasis on the classical world over other cultures. To be too focused on reconstructing historical facts means you're an outdated "culture-history" guy, who is too dull to make their work relate to modern ideological conflicts. Attempts to explain how cultures change across time or how civilizations develop gets called problematic, because how dare you assume there's a path from primitive to advanced? Terms like "simple societies" or "complex societies" are considered offensive because they sound too judgy. Some people even think the word "prehistoric" is offensive. But I don't want to give up the discipline to the post-modernists. Subjects like history, anthropology, archaeology and classics are really valuable, if you can find a way through all the wokeness. We need new academic institutions where these subjects can be brought back to life. They're not pragmatically useful in the way engineering or medicine are, but they still have value.

Metric on the Monetary Value of College: MVC = $First job out of college / $Senior year tuition. When I graduated in 1976, MVC = 4.3. In year 2023, university website says MVC = 1.4. That's how much the value of college has fallen, for an engineering degree. Art degrees fare much worse.

Part of the issue is that a college education is not that valuable. If I had to do it again I'd get training as an electrician or plumber or just building contractor. College was garbage.

Us vet just dropped spring 2023, saw a professor with a nose ring, I dropped all classes immediately and am looking for a new school

"If you want to get laid go to college, if you want an education go to the library." -- Frank Zappa

The issue is, not only have men stopped going to college, the colleges have been setting up special programs to benefit women. A lot of women are attending college who are not the best and brightest students admitted by merit and they tend towards questionable Liberal Arts degrees such as 'women's studies'. The net result of all of this is the value of a college degree has become suspect. Few seem to realize that the most prestigious universities do not offer anything to students that any other college offers. What made them so "elite" was that they used to only accept the best and brightest students so future employers knew that any student from a prestigious university would be make for a valuable employee. But now that has changed to the point where not only does a degree from an elite university no longer mean much but may even prove to be detrimental.

My 2 year trade school for electrical has landed me 3 jobs post covid. Making 80k now, my Engineering degree has failed me every time

This starts earlier than college. The drop out rates from high school for men in Norway, where I am, is over 30%. So they can't even get into college. (And nobody is even talking about how many of these boys are from single families because that would be very un-pc) The 12 year education pre-college is also a decade long nightmare for many boys. Boring goal oriented rote-learning, mostly female teachers, no male role models and weekend fathers, a therapeutic ethic in the classroom, less practical subjects in the syllabus, rough & tumble play is forbidden, competition is taboo - everyone gets a medal now, cooperative group projects are forced on students and individual accomplishments get little attention... kids with high follow up on homework acheive statistically much higher, so working single parents loose out. Boys also are more active in gaming which sabotages the necessary neural pathways of delayed gratification that you need to stud well.. But in the end - parents are responsible for their kids success. Stay together, follow up school at home and both parents should engage with the teachers. And fathers should spend more time with their sons learning them how to sacrifice time and discomfort for delayed end goals and gratification. Boys also need a lot if sleep and exercise to function well in school and should be motivated and monitored accordingly. Also turn off your fricking router at 8 pm and stop staring at your phone in front of your kids. Etc... I could rant a whole book about the feminization of grades 1 through 12 and the marginalisation of typical boy's traits in their formative years. What do we end up with? Insecure, uneducated young incel men with low self esteem who exist in a downward spiral of feeling like failures. It really pisses me off!!!!

"We are in a higher education bubble" - Peter Thiel. Bubbles always pop in the end, and it seems we're going full speed towards it.

I’m a school drop out. I made trade school then become a electrician traveld the world and now I’m overseas in real estate at the end of my 20th and earning a really really good amount

I did the higher education thing and yes it has helped me due to the fact it was an engineering degree but i purposely went to a university that has no liberal arts and sociology aspect to the course. Now for my son Im strongly of the mind set to send him to a technical colleague and after a few years of his career we will see if he need higher education to help boost his career path.