Why Grey Jedi HATED Obi-Wan Specifically - Star Wars Explained 

If you thought they hated Obi-Wan imagine if they found out about Mustafar

If only Obi-Wan knew forgiveness was more powerful then the pull of the dark side *Anakin/Vader:* 💘

His crucible of tragedy taught him that devotion to the force is the only calling for a jedi.

Qui-Gon didn’t know just how true or why it would be when he said this, but he was absolutely right when he said, “I foresee that you will become a great Jedi Knight,” when talking to Obi-Wan. Obi-wan is hands down my favorite Star Wars character. Period.

Actually, Obi-wan wasn't even supposed to be a Jedi. He aged out of the order and was going to become a farmer. Fate pushed he and Qui-Gon together, but even before, when Qui-Gon had repeatedly refused to train him, he never showed signs of falling to the dark side.

Haters gonna hate

If I lived in the same universe as Obi wan, I would be jealous too.

Has a will of solid fucking Beskar*

@@averagepo4474 that pure beskar do be pretty strong doe

*beskar

Oh Yes Obi-Wan killing the hero of the clone wars the Hero jedi

Anakin is no longer a hero.

@@Lemuel928 everyone in the star wars can9n universe thinks he died defending the youngling at the temple

@@Lemuel928 so if they saw obiwan kill anakin they would hate obiwan more

@@eatnut remember that on Mustafar, Anakin was challenged on his slaughtering of the younglings. That revelation would have shaken the Jensaarai to their core and would cause them to have to re-evaluate their beliefs of Obi-Wan and Anakin.

Perhaps their archives are incomplete?

Is it possible to learn this kind of power?

Obi Wan: Hello there

You said what I said but better.

He has the knowledge of the high ground, of course they hate him

Yes

your weird

More like tldw

😂

Gray Jedi are immeasurably superior to Jedi

Qui-Gon was Grey by the standards of the Jedi Council he was still very much firmly a Jedi.

"The" Grey Jedi is a bit misleading. The Jensaarai, like all other Jedi splinter groups, are considered "grey" for not adhering to the same code. Kind of like how each of the Abrahamic religions consider their own as the one and only righteous path.

The Outlanders always dislike Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Yeah but Obi Wan wasn't half the Jedi Qui Gon was.

@@wasifiqbal9984 Maul wasn't either HAHAHAHAAHHA

Perhaps so, but that doesn't mean that there isn't any such thing as a Di' Bendu or a Jen' di {If I spelled it right}.

The trick: Saying hello there

High Ground?

this one simple MIND trick!

Spinning; that's a good trick.

YES PLS

Fuck ye I just watched those

Needs to be done

Totally agree

Would love that

Oh yes, they are so much worse than the Sith who enslave, oppress, and murder billions of people.

@@jamesburtner9076 I mean the Jedi held up a caste system in the galaxy basically with the core worlds, outer rim and everything in-between; not to mention they took the most gifted children away from their homeworlds

@@ultimatesin5 To be fair, they were neither the ruling class nor did they steal the children, the parents had a choice.

@@FoxHound-ut1hu but they were the enforcers of the ruling class until the clones came around...... essentially galaxy police with a dash of religion mixed in there.... Also speaking as a devil's advocate that is brainwashed by the empire

@@ultimatesin5 I mean police is a strong word more like peace keepers and negotiators but that is probably semantics.

Lol

i see what u did there in the end...

Well played!

Did you just...?

why

Your reason has more sense than the tittle of the video and more depththan the video itself..

That's why I love Obi Wan Kenobi

Obi wan has actually a little high mediclorian count, but he never used his power

They hate him because he was the first to appear in movies.

When did this happen? Outside of both fights with dooku he kicks literally everyone's ass.... he kicked mauls ass, he kicked Vader/anakins ass, he kicked grevious ass too and ventriss in clone wars. Only reason he got rekt by dooku was for the plot of the movie anyway so Palpatine could tell anakin to kill dooku without obi wan being like "this dude Palpatine on some other shit"

@@danbobway5656 I distinctly remember people being pissed off that he beat Grevious as easily as he did because of the how the Clone Wars cartoon had portrayed Grevious.

No I have the higher ground than obi wan

It is Vader’s castle

@Thomas Laity-Cash I have an LAAT and am now at 10,000m, I have the highest ground

More true than you think High ground meaning vantage point Obi rarely engaged during the clonw wars without a strategy in place prior

Luna Radeon spitting straight facts.

Yuss

He didn't versus maul. In order to have the high ground you have to bask in it. Merge yourself with it. Delve into it. Only once you become one with the high ground will one be able to achieve space Jesus status.

Because he understaminated obi wan's high ground

glad to find this comment

Yeah. Same question.

Ikr He only talked about the topic of the video for less than 2 min

@@GemKeeper87 yeah.

Pretty sure because the vid needs to be 8 minutes long for the algorithm to pick it up

To be fair though, the Jedi have also killed whole groups of padawans for thinking just one of them might turn to the dark side.

Darn,that’s what Vader has been doing.

And enslave an entire race and blow up entire planets.

@@MrCdog85 A rogue secretive group of Jedi*

Killing Jedi was justified because Jedi also wiped out Sith they were hunted down by Jedi order it same fair if ask me

Then 10% of the population are fooling themselves. Concept of the Good guys is human nature. We can’t deny it no matter whar

@@7mriwantlightning710 No in nature there are no good guys or bad guys just the living and dead why would that not apply to humans.

I also think people fool themselves with the idea of “grey” too. Like, the Sith are absolutely diabolical and the dark side is destructive in nature. Everyone knows that. But the reason it becomes prevalent is because the Jedi often wind up becoming the source of their own troubles, either through dogmatic practices, corrupting within the ranks, or simply ignorance and misuse of their status to benefit themselves. The best Jedi are the ones in the field, not the council or the political ones, but the ones out there doing what’s right. Standing up for the people. That sort of thing. So yeah, the Sith and dark side are objectively evil and that much is true. But the Jedi order itself is flawed. But that doesn’t mean you need both to exist and that “balance” is a key. It’s just how things are. Things will balance out eventually, since someones always gonna have a problem with tyranny and rampant destruction against the Sith. While the Jedi order are prone to creating their own problems, so they’re balanced out over time as their ego inflates.

It’s not a surprise to me that the gray Jedi of Luke’s time didn’t like the perfect Jedi™️ of the old Order who deliberately disregarded his still flawed, but more idealistic and open-minded master Qui Gonn’s teachings. He almost consistently threw his personal agency, beliefs, interests, moral integrity, and friendships with Luke, Ahsoka, Padme, and Anakin under the bus to kiss Yoda’s ass and get ahead on the Council. I mean, it was to the point that, even in death, he could not admit that he was wrong to deceive Luke to try to fulfill Yoda’s request of him to use him as weapon to kill off the monster of a man he and Yoda inadvertently helped turn his father into in the afterlife. I’m not saying Obi-Wan was evil and a conquerer like all of the gray Jedi are saying. That’s exaggerated Empire propaganda they grew up under, but there is a grain of truth to it too. He wasn’t generally ill-intended, but he was never a particularly good person either. Obi-Wan was a good Jedi by the standards of *his time* because he generally sold his soul to Yoda and the Council. He consciously made an effort to shut down and not learn from people who had or once had more idealistic, open-minded, and spontaneously selfless traits because they didn’t gain Yoda’s and the Council’s favor. Even Anakin has more moments of that sort of idealistic, spontaneous, and selfless true heroism in the narrative at his best, and he also became one of the franchise’s most horrifying and prominent villains. It just goes to show that being a teacher’s pet in class does not automatically equal being a successful person. Yeah, individualism in excess leads to toxic selfishness, but you also do need a level of individual curiosity and motivation of the world outside of your comfort zone to truly make a difference for the better around you. If your only goal is to fit in with the crowd and just play it safe, you can’t make a meaningful impact for the better of anyone else or achieve true selflessness either because the only thing that motivates you is external validation when have no personal values or self-motivation to be good and do better. That’s Obi-Wan’s tragedy.

Hey, Qui - how's your stomach?

@@PeteTheGrouch Just fine. How your trash. (I read the user name as Grinch!😂)

@@doctorwho3708 'Just fine', he says.. ( _all while ignoring the whopping great hole..!_ ) Oh, my trash is just lovely, thank you so much for asking. ;-) ( _seriously, hardly anyone ever asks about my trash..._ )

"hate us cus they anus"

*I mean, you're not wrong* *that's basically what it is*

Strict adherence to the code would actually make him imperfect. Yoda basically acknowledges this when he talked to Luke in The Last Jedi.

@@thebeast9606 he bent the rules multiple times and let Anakin do his thing turning a blind eye.

What about Obi Wans love affair with Duthess Satine? He did love her, somethin he internally had to battle with....

@@benceozi3739 he didn't let his feelings control him. He was going to leave the Order for her but decided against it.

@@verbalkint4258 Nope. "If you siad the word I woupd have left the Jedi Order". He never stopped loving her and only kept his vows because 1. She didnt ask him not to. And 2. When they met up again it was War and the weight of his duty was greater. Even then if she in the Clone Wars asked Obi Wan to join her and cease being a Jedi I am 100% sure he would have. It was Satines death and Anakins turn that made him a true code bound Jedi.

@Abe Tsenoh only sith deal in absolutes

Yeah its an overused joke

I Did not thought about that

Yoda has alot of problems. Age is no guarantee of mastery, nor skill, nor really even wisdom. Yoda is a slave to dogma, and routine, and he even admitted that the fall of the jedi was pretty much his personal fault. He trained and led the order for 800 years, and didnt let it change or evolve. He was a force for stagnation, which is the weakness and pitfall of the jedi. Yoda also espouses a reverence and respect for the force, but that is belied by his every use of it as a utility tool. And not even a sharp or subtle tool either. Hes the bluntest of the blunt in every application of the force he is shown using. He is a terrible lightsaberist. He hates lightsaber combat, hates any fighting. As such, his mastery of it is wrote. He learned all about the forms so he could teach them, but only uses ataru because it makes up for his shortcomings (short) and its in line with his reliance on the force and wielding it like a blunt instrument. Ataru is all attack, little defensive focus. Instead of yielding to and following the will of the force, yoda stubbornly held onto the order of his youth. Contrast that with kenobi, who actively pursued and attained absolute mastery over his chosen form, chosen by the way not to make up for any short comings but because it was more in line with his own philosophy and connection to the force. Kenobi was willing to defy the order to follow the will of the force several times, most notably the training of anakin. Kenobi used the force in a truly reverent way in all his applications of it. He was described as a clear window onto the sunlit meadow of the force.

@@mattmaughan6871 Jesus bro wrote a whole essay🙄

@@mattmaughan6871 impressive. Most impressive. Indeed you have a powerful insight.

@@mattmaughan6871 I agree with you. Yoda wasn’t a slouch by any means, but by being a jack of all trades he was kinda a master of none. His only saving Grace being his species ability to survive for as long as they do. Compare him to the Jedi/Sith of old and he would pale in comparison

@@mattmaughan6871 I too am a Kenobi fan but I have to tell you that your comment is all but right. Yoda was one of the best duelists of his time and even Darth Sidious fled from a duel against Yoda. Regarding his use of the force: HAVE YOU EVER READ THE YODA COMIC SERIES? I agree on the other points.

Its TREASON then!!!!!!

This if -un- fair.

It’s Unfair!

This is why grey Jedi hated Obi-wan. He walked the walk. He didn't reject his humanity like other Jedi, he accepted his emotions, but he mastered them. They did not master him. Grey Jedi, and people who like them, recognize that they are too weak to be actual Jedi, like Obi-wan. The problem with the Jedi order is not simply their philosophy, it was trying to force it upon all Jedi. This is why they raised Padawans from childhood (Also why Anakin had to kill the younglings). Obi-wan, and likely Yoda as well, was an outlier. Luke was not a grey Jedi. He was a Jedi like Obi-wan, he recognized that he had emotions, but rather than being consumed by them, he mastered them.

@@davidtucker9498 Except the fact that a Grey Jedi is not only wiser, but more powerful than either Sith or Jedi. They are factually the only good side, are both extremely powerful, and extremely wise. They are superior period.

@@sithacolol5337 Obi-Wan: Lol.

@@sithacolol5337 ehhh I would like to argue. While the Jedi are certainly flawed, it’s only 1 difference away from actually being better than the greys. Morally, the greys are... well, grey. Part of me thinks they’re more corruptible, you just need to find what makes them tick as an individual, rather than letting the standard Jedi be blindly arrogant of their own weaknesses In short, while the Grey’s are more neutral, it means they’re closer to tipping over to the dark than the regular Jedi ever were. After all, while the Jedi lack awareness of their own flaws, an inexperienced grey may find themselves much more willing to embrace dark practices for their own gain. The dark side is much like a drug. The more you indulge it, the more risk you put yourself in.

@@cityguard4847 when I say morally, I mean in the force. The only good side of the force is balance period. It's been specifically stated. The Jedi wish to have no business with the dark side.

Happy Ewok noises

@@faezerz5861 obi-wan is not dead just immortal that's the power of the high ground

@@faezerz5861 dont worry he just trains your son with Yoda and beats the shit out of the sith bringing balance to the force

"Aw shit! Here we go again"

@Josh I think you're new to Star Wars or too familiar with the current sequels rubbish.

@Josh I sound dumb? How exactly? Because no one said Obi-wan was better than any other Jedi such as Anakin, Mace, or Yoda. You just insinuated that I did when I literally didn't. What's up with you?

@Josh A sensitive cyborg that is known to run away from every engagement? Have you watched anything but the current sequels? Try watching some Clone Wars chief.

@Josh Jedi really try not to kill, lol. It’s perhaps the most frustrating thing about them. Kinda like Batman. Like yes, let’s let the “bad guy” live so they can wreak havoc another day. But according to the Jedi Code, Obi would’ve been one of the best. He only struggled when it came to Anakin.

@Josh He Said Obi Wan Is the Goat, He Didnt Say Obi wan is the most powerful being in existence, Think with your brain, If you have one ,

It’s ironic because qui gon was basically a Grey Jedi. Lol he had an odd relationship to obi just like obi did with Anakin

Obi Wan embodied the Jedi ideals, Yoda embodied their reality .. disconnected and willfully ignorant

@@Helluvabutl3r No he wasn't, Qui Gon compared to the Jedi Order was a Grey Jedi. The true Grey Jedi was Mace Windu.

@@andreasballe7470 Mace Windu is probably the polar opposite of a grey Jedi. The Grey Jedi sought actual balance to the force by recognizing the failures of the Jedi Code. Mace used the force as a tool (Sith view) in his fighting style which made him very dangerous BUT this was just a means to further the will of the Jedi Council. Essentially he controlled the force so that it could be left alone.

true but also remember the dark side itself is not inherently evil. the force is the force, whether light or dark. its how you use it that determines good or bad.

True

@@ashjose7973 lies

@@johnpatrick1857 you don't like Obi wan?

@@ashjose7973 It's probably Anakin's side account

@@lesgrosgainz interesting theory

Looks like someone couldn’t handle the Kenobi style

Its a really bad video, basically talks about dark side users that got click baited as hard as everyone here and says nothing of interest.. its a video of how many times i can say "gray jedi"

General kenobi. YOU ARE A BOLD ONE

I do not know you.

But it kinda shows how powerful you would have to be to play around with the dark side and still stay in the light.

Major potential lost right there.

@@TheVocalTune not really its gaming stuff you cant be jedi if you are grey ... They should say force user without affliation

@@davidchicoine6949 that’s not why are they called grey Jedi. They believe there is no dark or light. They use all of the force. The reason they aren’t “grey sith” is because they follow jedi morals.

Technically Ahsoka is a "grey jedi"

@@beni2cc no ahsoka is purely light side because of the daughters sacrifice on mortis so just unafilliated light side user

@Lawrence Thakurdeen It was a joke based on mainstream Christianity only. Not those that truly care. Christianity has become a product to be sold, shallow, cheap. Real christians are legit good folks. Raised baptist, went atheist, then Torah observant Christian, now just a fuckup christian. I know the faith well. My comment was in bad taste but it is truthful in ways.

That's all of his videos

Its a really bad video, basically talks about dark side users that got click baited as hard as everyone here and says nothing of interest

ok.. 'Grey Jedi'.

_Sends audio file of me saying gray jedi_

You got that right wisdom has more value then knowledge if people knew what we gave up for knowledge they would call us stupid.

Thanks for the heads-up.