chrisn626 very true but if we’re expected to be understanding for Wellington’s bad job framing, why is it ok to just blast Angel? Not saying you were but, nobody has any clue how impossible it is to call pitches that get pushed out of the zone. If you consistently do that, you’ll have a lot more than just 1 ejection.
@@michaelbrundage5854 how about because Hernandez has one job, and he absolutely sucks at it...Plus he's an asshole. Teams should be boycotting games he's assigned to call.
Easy Answer: When Angel sued the MLB over thinking the league was discriminating against him, they openly called him a terrible umpire but cannot fire him due to unions.
Can't they demote him to umpiring in a lower level? I grew up in the days the book Japan Inc was a textbook in business school.....at the time of supposed hired-for-life, no layoffs. If a manager was useless, he wasn't fired...he was put in a out of the way office and given meaningless tasks, till he quit
Hang on I have to check my phone. I have some missed calls Missed call: Angel Hernandez Missed call: Angel Hernandez Missed call: Angel Hernandez Missed call: Angel Hernandez Missed call: Angel Hernandez Missed call: Home
@@hbk314How so? Angel Hernandez is one of the very few umpires many people can name, and it's mainly because he's always associated with bad calls. If your referring to the Greg Gibson part, it's a reference to the MLB RU-vid channel
Yeah well I remember mike esterbrook umping in game 1 of the doubleheader in Red Sox vs Yankees like a month ago Horrible umping game and he helped the Yankees win🤬
@@BootsORiley I remember that shit, too!!! And he got it off, too!!! No matter what race you are, you suck!!! Did u see the MIL/PHI game in national TV last nite?
@@jmrichards5910 I want to get a seat right at the tunnel so I can be the one millionth person to let him know how much of a disgrace he is to baseball
August 2023 checking in. He just had the worst game in MLB of the year, 24 flat out missed ball strike calls. How can you be tossed for arguing ball strike calls with this dude? If I worked at 7/11 and someone gave me a 20 for 2 dollars of product and I gave them 5 dollars back, I couldn’t throw them out for arguing with me when I am objectively wrong.
His discrimination lawsuit he filed two years ago is still pending. What is taking so long? There isn’t a judge out there willing to watch tape of his bad calls and throw out his case?
I hear both of yall... and I agree. Some catchers are extremely gifted at framing a pitch to make it look like it landed in the strike zone. As an umpire, missing those calls are part of the game... But in THIS video... for THIS circumstance, where the catcher's arm crossed his ENTIRE BODY. Give me a fucking break. Angel Hernandez is such a nutsack.
@@austinluszcz1426 yes. I'm sure it is. But guess what, these guys are professionals. They're paid a ridiculous amount of money to do this. And here, we have a guy who is fooled by a catcher trying to catch a ball out of his called location on a ball right down the middle. I wish I could make millions doing what Hernandez does terribly.
The Gaming Killer it’s easy to say the ball was right down the middle when there’s a box on the screen to tell you where the pitch was. I know from experience from the catching side and the umpiring side that pitches like the ones at 0:47 and 2:49 are very hard to call. If I was the white sox coach I would be more mad at my catcher than the umpire and I would be congratulating my catcher if I was the twins coach. You can’t just say they’re professionals therefore they have to be perfect. Catching impacts the game a lot and good framing is rewarded. At first, I thought the first pitch was a ball too and I’m sure a lot of people did too. I GUARANTEE that if most people decided to umpire they would make mistakes like these at some point. They are human.
The Gaming Killer I’m not defending him necessarily, I’m just making a point that catching has a bigger impact on balls and strikes than most people realize. You know people would be booing if he called that pitch a strike but then they would have looked at the box on the screen and they’d be like oh good call. Of course he has a temper but that’s not what I’m talking about. If you’re a player or a manager and your player gets screwed, it’s your job to argue and sometimes, to get ejected. It then becomes the umpire’s responsibility to eject you. It’s all a part of the game. When you are behind the catcher, sometimes your view gets blocked by the hitter when he strides. I’m not saying that is what happened, but its all about the angles. Sometimes the dugout or the pitcher’s mound and especially the tv screen give you a much better view of where the pitch actually was. I remember seeing the overturned calls in the playoffs and 3 of the 4 plays he missed were extremely close and many umpires would have got them wrong as well. Of course the last one was super obvious but my point isn’t that he’s a good umpire. I just think people are too quick to criticize umpires sometimes when the job is way harder than it looks.
I'm a baseball fan - I watch games of all different teams - And I feel bad for both the White Sox here and the game I love. The fact that MLB refused to acknowledge and deal with Joe West and Angel as a problem infuritates me as a fan. They are a blackeye on the game and the players and fans both have a lot of emotional and financial investment in the game and deserve better than this.
As a former baseball umpire, I can say the worst type of umpire is one with a moving strike zone. Call them low, call them inside but be freakin' consistent !
He sued mlb for being racist against him... Suddenly he was picked as a playoff ump and became crew chief, u know, cause the only reason he wasn't picked for either of those is because the mlb is racist... Not because he sucks at his job. There's a lesson in this... If ur a minority you can sue ur way to the top, even if u suck at ur job lmao
@@mikesirman3148 He's still only a fill in crew chief. His real CC, DeMuth, exited a game in San Diego after taking a foul off his forearm. Most of him being a fill-in CC comes from him being in the league for as long as he is. I'm not here to debate whether he's a good ump, you can decide for yourself. But he still only a fill-in crew chief.
@@anthonym7663 I didn't know that, but it's not that surprising. It just sucks that an inadequate ump gets to make blown calls in the playoffs and got a promotion to crew chief because of his race, not his abilities... Cause in all honesty, he's probably only good enough to ump fall ball in little league
Angel is really susceptible to framing....that’s what’s going on here. Look at the first two. They “miss” wide (right down the middle) and the catcher is dramatic about it...called a ball. Frames a low pitch into the bottom of the zone...called a strike.
No, what he's doing is punishing the pitcher for missing his spot. If the catcher sets up way inside and misses by a lot on a 0-2 count he won't reward the pitcher for missing his spot.
@@aeiou901 the strike zone doesn't change. a ball down the middle is still a strike no matter where the catcher sets up. when you can't see the pitch because you're old and rely on where the catcher catches the ball to determine if its a ball or strike you need to go.
@@aeiou901 it shouldn't matter if the pitcher missed the spot. a ball down the middle of the plate is a strike no matter where the catcher sets up. and it's not the job of an ump to punish a pither for missing his spot, the job of the ump is to call a ball if it missed the strike zone and a strike if it doesn't. the ump should be making calls based on where the ball crosses the plate or not, not where the catcher sets up and and catches the ball.
1:17 - “the reach” does not “befuddle” any umpire. In pro ball, no umpire calls those a strike. Angel Hernandez is terrible but this is normal umpiring here.
Maurice Haynes I’m saying you’re wrong because at all levels of high-completion baseball, that’s the expectation of the players and the training of the umpires. If a catcher sets up on a corner and noticeably has to suddenly jerk his glove in another direction to catch the ball, that’s going to be called a ball. You can disagree about whether or not this should be way things are. But if you think that’s not how things *actually* are, then yes, you would be wrong.
Mortician_Drummer ugh yes. A decent umpire would go 4 for 6. Let’s just say going 1 for 6 in a major league playoff game as an umpire should get you fired. But he’s on the umpire union so he won’t get fired or leave until he retires
The Train Geek It’s all good, lol. I always say “is that bad?” when it’s really really bad just in a sarcastic tone. I legit didn’t know this ump can’t be fired, tho, which is stupid. He’s awful. 🙌🏼
@brokenarrow5928 You are more than welcome to conduct a seminar on forecasting and warning decision-making to the NWS and the Weather Channel. I'm confident they'll benefit from your expertise. Take this from a retired NWS forecaster: BEING WRONG SUCKS!!
@@dannykrise9721 What's the problem with this video? He called balls on two pitches that nobody on the field wants called a strike. He called strike three on a pitch that was less than an inch low. He makes mistakes just like any one of us, but he's certainly not a bad umpire who works the playoffs nearly every year.
@@hbk314 he wasnt slated to work the playoffs prior to filing a discrimination lawsuit against MLB. The players in the league consistently rate him as the worst ump. He blows calls more consistently than almost any other ump. His need for the catcher to frame a pitch for him to see where it crossed the plate is a textbook example of why hes a bad ump. It's not that he doesnt have a hard job it's that he refuses to accept criticism when he does his job poorly.
@@drsch you’re being blinded a bit here. The framing was bad enough to confuse even very good umps there. You could tell it was a strike because you had a perfect angle and a box on the screen.
The NYC school system has hundreds of union teachers that show up every day to school and report to a special room. They aren't allowed to teach class or have contact with students. The reason is, it costs too much money to fire them as opposed to show up for a paycheck. Truly sad.
@@UsesofBatman hes up in box, and in .25 speed at 3:43 it comes in right under is front knee, on a 3-2 you gotta at least foul that off.. as his couch would probably say, protect.. that's a good pitch.
As a twins fan, I remember watching this game and that strike 3 on Jimenez was absolutely atrocious. A joke that he is still employed by Major League Baseball
Jack Melby he isn’t employed by MLB. MLB contracts with the Umpire union to provide umpires. It’s the umpires union that is too spineless to drop kick this shit pile
@@sadmetsfan7660 0:45 Pitcher missed badly. Nobody on the field wants that called. He's ejecting someone in the Twins dugout if he calls a strike when the catcher lunges for it like that. 1:05 This was a correct ball call regardless of the fact that, again, the pitcher missed badly. Basically same as above. Nobody wants that called. 2:46 Pitch that missed the bottom of the zone by .768 inches.
@@hbk314 I mean in general. Even the "worst umps" only get mildly inconvenienced with argumentative managers, and jeering fans. They don't get assaulted or criminally harmed. No player, in the heat of the moment, has used their bat like a club over a really bad play. No drunken fan has gone after an ump before or after a game, when their call "made my team lose" and harmed them.
The strikes down the middle because A Hernandez was lined up behind the catcher is inexcusable. When I was taught how to ump LL games you were told to line up in the zone
I'm not a baseball fan but I've been watching a lot of these videos of him. Why can't these teams start protesting him saying if he umps we're not playing. Stand up for the millions you make.
Umps threatened to strike when what’s his name spit on an ump and got banned for five games but for the next season and not the playoffs. Players have a union they (any worker can strike) can strike
You missed the point, this is all about the 0-2 pitch which was right down the middle, regardless of how the catcher had to react to catch the ball. I think you would agree that some sort of punishment should be doled out, as this is a pattern for Angel and perhaps he just can't ump anymore, especially in MLB. We deserve better, this wasn't even close.
Rellimguod1 I find it hilarious that people who have never umped competitive ball can presume to tell umpires how to do their job. It is an understood relationship between the catcher and umpire that the umpire is a human being and can’t supernaturally see every angle of the strike zone, especially when the catcher actively hinders him by setting up way off the plate, framing the ball poorly, or standing up and blocking his view. There’s a reason no one even reacted to that 0-2 call other than people watching from the the view on a screen with a nice convenient box (that is often an incorrect representation of the strike zone anyways). The catcher knew he fucked that up and Angel would’ve been a hero if he could’ve seen it from the angle that the catcher forced him to take.
@@Rellimguod1 Nobody on the field wants that pitch called a strike. If he calls that a strike, he's ejecting someone. He's not even going to have that marked incorrect on his report for the game much less getting punished for it.
And now he’s suing the MLB, alleging that his more recent lack of World Series assignments is a result of racial discrimination and not his own performance.
@@kenconnelly773 So he's playing the race card (I'm black, btw) in an organization that has an over 50% minority workforce. Good luck with that, Angel.
He has to be on the take. It's impossible for any somewhat competent person able to see to miss as many and as blatant calls as him. And he's a trained professional. Little kids sitting 150 feet away can see what he can't
Absolutely the reason why. He knew he was getting fired so he sued the mlb knowing that he can take advantage of the sluggishness of the legal system: while the case is open, it would look bad for it if they fired him. Sued for racial discrimination? What a joke, and an insult to those who actually are victims of racial discrimination. I hope they sack his ass as soon as this bullshit case is over.
Well, we're only paying him $7.25M this year and if we want, we can have him for a bargain price of only $8M next year or else we'll have to eat $500k to buy him out (and hopefully send him back to the North Side, they need a catcher now). At least his .194 average is a lot better than AJ Reed's .136 and Danny Palka's .022 (aka the next Babe Ruth - 1 hit out of 45 ABs - move over Chris Davis there's a bigger turd on the South Side). #goSox
Rellimguod1 there is more to it than money. Nothing worse than having a veteran guy around young ballplayers showing them how to play the game the wrong way. I’d rather have James Shield tbh. Even though he couldn’t get outs, at least he set a good example. #CreateGoodCulture
@@Gwazi Watch that language, that type of talk can get you banned from RU-vid. What next, you're gonna say Danny Palka is better than him too (thru 8/24/19, 1 for 45 in the bigs this year). #goSox
Rellimguod1 just clarifying, yonders lifetime stats are WAAAAYYYY better than castillo’s, and at the time yonder got DFAd, he had better 2019 stats than castillo. accept facts. and actually, palka is better than castillo. last year palka is way better than any year castillo. also yonder was a better defender at first than abreu, and that’s the truth and every sox fan knows.
That's like asking why Joe West hasn't been fired yet. Good thing Hernandez did- n't ump Mark Buehrle's or P hil Humber's perfect games or neither pitcher would ha- ve gotten them.
At least Cowboy-Joe is a certified cartoon character with better eyes. What's sad is that the Sox recently celebrated the 10th anniversary of Mark's perfect game (and "The Catch"), but does anyone care about, let alone remember, Humber's? Phil is now just a footnote that now gets zero pub / recognition. But, don't forget Jim Joyce blowing the call at first base for the last out of Galarragha's (Tigers) perfect game. At least Joyce later acknowledged missing that call and that's why there is a commissioner in baseball to fix such blunders. He should've stepped in to declare that the last out was indeed made (as acknowledged by that ump) and the game was over with a perfect game intact - now that was a sin that should've easily been remedied where Galarragh could then be given his due, and this should still be done. But for the love of god and the integrity of the game, retire or fire Angel, he just can't call balls/strikes anymore, we all know it! www.mlb.com/video/missed-call-ends-perfect-game-c8616789
@@Rellimguod1 You mean 1 0? Buehrle's perfecto was in 2009; you're right about the 'Catch'. Without DeWayne W ise's catch, Kapler's shot go- es into the seats for a home run & the perfect game is go ne.
@@kevinmiller1985 My bad, good catch - it was indeed the 10th. As a Sox fan, my math skills ain't too good, I didn't have to take off my shoes and socks after all to count all the way up to 20 - in my next lifetime, I'll be sure to pay attention to Sister Mary Elephant's teachings while in her numbers class in school. #goSox
@@sirstephen9825 Nobody on the field wants that to be called a strike. If he calls that, he's ejecting someone on the hitter's bench. Have you seen the automated strike zone usage so far? It's awful. MLB umpires are roughly 97% accurate on average.
Why don't all the teams get together and just tell the Umpires association that they will no longer play when Angel is officiating. They should, every single team, demand that Angel be fired.
What MLB should have done is have Fox broadcast the game as "the Minnesota twins versus the Chicago White Sox starring Angel Hernandez as the foil" and plaster his face on all the advertisements
Angel Hernandez is, in my opinion, one of the greatest umpires..... of making horrible calls. Honestly, in a game of the 2018 ALDS between Boston and New York, his challenge overturn percentage was 75%. I honestly think he shouldn't be umpiring in big playoff series, not because of his race, but because of his consistency of making bad calls.
Home plate umpires need to be replaced by a computer. Fans on that day collectively paid hundreds of thousands of dollars just to watch Hernandez make a mockery of our national pastime.
I had one video get randomly reccomended to me on this guy earlier today. First time ive ever heard his name. And now I can't stop watching his sheer incompetence
Funny I’m seeing this 2 years later and we’re still asking the same thing! Angel just had another one of his worst games ever just this weekend. Guys a clown and should be working high school games.
@@michaelbrundage5854 seriously stfu. You really can't tell from watching this guy work that he's a total asshole?? There are dozens of videos right here on RU-vid that literally show him being a total asshole, while at work no less. Top that off with his bullshit lawsuit claiming that MLB is racist for not wanting one of the worst umpires in baseball history to call the most important games, and you definitely don't need to know this asshole in person to know that he is a complete and utter asshole.
When MLB umpires "resigned" in the 1990's instead of just striking the owners were in a position of accepting the resignations of the umpires. When they Union realized what they did was dumb many tried to get their jobs back, but a resignation is a resignation. Sever al umpires never worked a game again.
Ed, I think you're mistaken - Cowboy Joe is a crooner, I have both his albums: www.cowboyjoewest.com/diamond_dreams.htm And, loves me his music video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TflugBpsBuQ.html
It is a hard job, but so is bridge design, if someone is shit at designing a bridge and it collapses we don't say. "Well, its a hard job, I don't see you doing it!"