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Why I am afraid for the NBA and Basketball 

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@prlysis
@prlysis 6 месяцев назад
I'm 27 years old, and I agree with you. Sometimes, it feels like a 3-point shootout. The offense is favored so heavily that the game isn't balanced anymore. Certain fundamentals aren't being taught.
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 6 месяцев назад
I think the Lakers since 2020 tried to go for the old school way of shooting since they suck at 3s
@student99bg
@student99bg 6 месяцев назад
I am a European guy and when I watch Euroleague each possession the defense is fighting tooth and nail to stop the offense from scoring and offense is trying tooth and nail to score, playing as a team, trying to find the best possible opportunity to score even if it takes 24 seconds. In the NBA I have an impression that they half ass it on both ends of the floor (to be fair NBA rules are also more scewed against defense and in favor of offense), at least in the regular season.
@chitownkidd33
@chitownkidd33 6 месяцев назад
@@student99bgThat’s exactly what it is
@ibringthelastwords1358
@ibringthelastwords1358 6 месяцев назад
@@therealjaystone2344 Hahah 😂😂🤣🤣
@2genders-tk2ue
@2genders-tk2ue 6 месяцев назад
I hope zion can stay healthy because he can help.
@sergioa.9695
@sergioa.9695 6 месяцев назад
They call it evolution i call it de-evolution and loss of fundamentals of basketball.
@smoothjulio
@smoothjulio 6 месяцев назад
LeBron highlights are literally just a layup line with guys moving out of the way or else he’s pushing them with the off arm.
@troyhines3219
@troyhines3219 6 месяцев назад
@@smoothjulio My pet peeve is when no one challenges anything at the rim anymore . It’s called “making a business decision” no it’s calling having no pride in protecting your rim!
@cdknowledge
@cdknowledge 6 месяцев назад
​@@troyhines3219"making a business decision", is that a term they coined now to excuse themselves from defensive duties!? 😂🤦‍♂️ so fkn cringeworthy...
@Kendricktimes2
@Kendricktimes2 6 месяцев назад
These hating ass old heads 😂
@acewilliams7917
@acewilliams7917 6 месяцев назад
Exaxtly💯 It's rec-ball at the ymca. What do guys do at the ymca? Throw up 3 pointers.
@tm75_88
@tm75_88 6 месяцев назад
As soon as you watch back a game from 90s, you just realize the different vibe .....a regular season game back then was more electrifying than a today's playoff game
@tm75_88
@tm75_88 6 месяцев назад
@@brianrosen7426 you're right it used to have more vibe than a today's Final
@ryandavis7762
@ryandavis7762 6 месяцев назад
Intensity
@gambitacio
@gambitacio 6 месяцев назад
@@user-xy2mj2gp1tPeople like you always think you’re moving forward only to hit into a brick wall.
@MDHDH-iy7nm
@MDHDH-iy7nm 6 месяцев назад
90s meatriders are so annoying lmao
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 6 месяцев назад
Part of that is being a kid. You’re never going to feel as happy as you did when you were 10
@bauc
@bauc 6 месяцев назад
As a 37 year old, who grew up with basketball +(ex player), especially 90's NBA and early 2000's I agree with every word you said. The NBA game is unrecognizable today, however in Europe, we still play old-school with a modern touch to it, so I think this is the right way forward.
@monolithgeometry3221
@monolithgeometry3221 6 месяцев назад
Perhaps that why Europeans are dominating the game today
@bauc
@bauc 6 месяцев назад
@@monolithgeometry3221 I guess so 👊
@soyentak5076
@soyentak5076 6 месяцев назад
Yea fiba worlds was best ball I’ve seen in 15 years
@dinoperta3576
@dinoperta3576 6 месяцев назад
But the problem with European basketball is that the Euroleague is not an open comeptition.You can be relegated in your own league and still play in the Euroleague while a team could be a championship team in its league and not be invited.That is not a sport but a closed elitist competition.At least in other sports you can qualify on paper even if you are an amateur side and a champion of your country.
@sampayne3576
@sampayne3576 4 месяца назад
NBA basketball is not recognizable because of the soft European influence. Soft European basketball is and never was old school basketball, boy. We invented this shit, not you
@MarcelOutdoors
@MarcelOutdoors 6 месяцев назад
100% agree. Being a fan of the sport since the 80s and playing it from 7 to 21 years old, I also stopped watching the game for over 15 years because I couldn't stand how players keep asking for a lot of money without even playing a single game first. They started asking for attention and respect without letting their actions speak for themselves. How the game started allowing plays that were so illegal and enforced back then, that made the NBA a whole different level. This took away so much from the elite level that the NBA was known for. Just because you were good at a pick-up game didn't mean you could be an NBA player. It used to take lots of discipline and understanding of the fundamentals and RULES of the game to earn a team position. There was pride in each position back then. 1,2,3,4,5. Oh, you knew who was what how good they were. Only then the comparisons made sense. They basically allow the game to become a pickup game where standard game rules are not enforced. That alone makes you lose respect for the game. Competition, rivalry, team loyalty, defense, big man, midrange, fundamentals, and player maturity are extremely important for sports. We tend to go for trends and what works at the moment and the NBA has gone that route. How are you going to build a dynasty if you are constantly moving players around and not building a team with a strong system that works? I don't even have favorite team now days just favorite players. SMH...
@terterman8585
@terterman8585 6 месяцев назад
Your words reflect my thinking 100%
@loviejohnson876
@loviejohnson876 6 месяцев назад
FACTS.
@JoeyJoverAgbayani
@JoeyJoverAgbayani 6 месяцев назад
totally agree.
@jasonvargas4798
@jasonvargas4798 6 месяцев назад
You summed it up perfectly man, it almost hurts to read.
@PieMaster2425
@PieMaster2425 6 месяцев назад
Imagine missing the 2014 Spurs because you think you know ball.
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
Progressivism is not necessarily synonym of progress, you can apply this to Basketball.
@Immigrationsituation
@Immigrationsituation 6 месяцев назад
I also apply that to politics. 😂
@studiobauhaus7740
@studiobauhaus7740 6 месяцев назад
Progressivism should be the art of making things better but it's not. Progressivism in today's world is progress for the benefit of the individual so NBA players and teams can make more money and call that progress but it's at the expense of the game. They sold their soul.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 6 месяцев назад
todays reference to "progeressive" I look and see REGRESSION
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
@@Lizards_Lounge Period. That's just false advertising 🤣
@user-oq9ly8lr9z
@user-oq9ly8lr9z 6 месяцев назад
The change in the NBA is why I got into college basketball. It’s still traditional for the most part. Still have a big man that plays down low, mid range shots, passing, defense and most importantly…they give 100%
@MrEKOPriest
@MrEKOPriest 6 месяцев назад
I agree. College and Euro league are way better than most of the NBA right now.
@babobenson5203
@babobenson5203 6 месяцев назад
College basketball is legit garbage. Like actually go watch the end of a march madness game... Shit is sloppy, and undisciplined basketball. The wizards would wax any team in Europe
@GregoryKeller
@GregoryKeller 6 месяцев назад
@@babobenson5203 the games are sloppy because they are amateurs and maybe the wizards could beat some of the lesser teams in Europe, but Real Madrid with a 16-year-old Luka came to Oklahoma City in the preseason and beat the thunder a team that had Westbrook who won the MVP later that season
@raphael2407
@raphael2407 6 месяцев назад
I'm an oldhead. I watched the 90's Bulls and that was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in sports. There is a reason why we still talk about the 90s ball and why these players are still icons to this day and age. Remember Scottie Pippen dunk hard on Patrick Ewing and tell Spike Lee to "take a seat"? Or when Rodman guarded Shaq in the post, or when Piippen completely erased Magic the entire game? John Stockton diming up the Mailmain, Jason Williams with his unique style? Mutombo "not in my house" monsterblocks, Kobe killing it midrange... man so many great moments. Yeah, there's reasons we still remember and we still talk about these moments. Good times we had and it was spectecular to watch. Modern basketball with this slowmotion "dance around, please don't touch me, halfcourt threes... " is all just boring. Great moments? None.. :(
@wmden1
@wmden1 6 месяцев назад
You summed it up well. The most excitement I have gotten from watching clips from today's game is counting the number of travels, carries, and etc. per possession. that are not called as violations. Most of those violations are obvious to anybody with a little knowledge of the rules. I guess I shouldn't call it excitement. It's more like amazement at the number not called and some sadness for what the implications are, along with the overuse of the 3 point shot, for the future of the game so many of us love to play and watch.
@jpmor7327
@jpmor7327 6 месяцев назад
Or watching old bill cartwright shoot freethrows 🤣🤣🤣
@nickandres7829
@nickandres7829 6 месяцев назад
I mostly remember the whistle being blown every fifteen seconds for a travel
@rhenarda.9292
@rhenarda.9292 6 месяцев назад
Ok boomer 😅😅
@keepmoving2023-ku7nb
@keepmoving2023-ku7nb 5 месяцев назад
Watching the NBA since the 80s the game is not like it used to be especially the lack of defense
@big8dog887
@big8dog887 6 месяцев назад
That game a few years ago between Golden State and Houston where Houston missed twenty some three pointers in row and just kept hoisting them up is what pretty much killed my interest in the modern NBA.
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 6 месяцев назад
I remember that game it was a headache just watching that many bricks in a game
@user-vw1vf5cw7d
@user-vw1vf5cw7d 6 месяцев назад
James Harden left the chat😂
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 6 месяцев назад
I've HEARD about this game, didnt see it, sounds DISGUSTING !!!
@loulou7194
@loulou7194 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, the famous 2nd half of the 2018 WCF (a Game 7, WTF), it was terrible...
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 6 месяцев назад
When you missed too many threes, you better stop messing with it
@tommychew6544
@tommychew6544 6 месяцев назад
I agree with you100%! Basketball was exciting back in the 80's and 90's, people took pride in their defensive skills. It's been around 15 years or so since have been able to make myself watch an entire game. In the 80's & 90's I was glued to watching those games! I can't even turn on the games anymore, it's a different sport now and the entertainment value is LESS than half of what it was.
@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 6 месяцев назад
Which is ironic, because the league thought the game would be more entertaining with more offense
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
I felt the same way, but Anthony Edwards has me believing in better days. He is a throwback type of player and the wolves are actually fun to watch
@miharudl9849
@miharudl9849 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree. Nowadays a lot of players don’t want to play defense. Just look at last game between Hawks and Pacers that ended with 152-157. Nobody was playing defense, just shooting threes.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 6 месяцев назад
same, I stopped several years ago, it just makes me cringe over and over..
@vlada
@vlada 6 месяцев назад
​so I gather you never heard of the 80s teams like Denver that used to play highscoring games?
@robharrison8139
@robharrison8139 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for articulating what I, and may others, are feeling. I was an NBA obsessed teen in the 90s and couldn’t get enough, reading every article, magazine, collecting tapes, and the like. My interest waned a bit in the early 2000s but I still appreciated the game. But nowadays I find the game to be unwatchable (too many threes and no defense) and the league an atrocious shadow of its former self (load management, soap opera like drama, no loyalty). For this feeling I am mocked and decried as a closed minded “old head” who hates change, but like you said evolution is not necessarily better and the product has been downgraded.
@MatewanMassacre
@MatewanMassacre 6 месяцев назад
What I miss is watching teams have to rely on their big men, making "grown man moves ... in the paint" as Mark Jackson used to say. Now, it's a bunch of little guys, running up and down the floor, jacking up 3-pointers.
@dbreiden83080
@dbreiden83080 6 месяцев назад
The skill level in today’s game is higher than ever before and that cannot be argued by anybody with any common sense. Pretty much everybody on the court can make a three-point basket regardless of height. Watch tape from the 70s 80s and even the 90s you got players all over the place that literally can’t fucking shoot the basketball.
@nickandres7829
@nickandres7829 6 месяцев назад
It's just the evolution of the sport. Hockey got rid of The Trap. Baseball had the Dead Ball Era. Football games in the 90's were lower scoring, slower paced games.
@robertl8270
@robertl8270 6 месяцев назад
I'm 31, and I know exactly what you mean. I'm in Cleveland, and I couldn't get my nephews to go with me to the Cavs/Lakers game tomorrow night. I tried to explain to them about Jordan & LeBron, and what a historic experience it will be to see LeBron before he retires... they just couldn't care less. They're not sports fans, but it still makes me feel like Basketball doesn't have the same magnetism it did when I fell in love with it. It used to be the coolest of the cool, and larger than life. Now... Idk.
@user-ye3ci5yb7v
@user-ye3ci5yb7v 6 месяцев назад
because no more jordan magic bird////////////////dominique drexler/////celtics lakers pistons dr j ..kareem..kobi//////shaq......olajuwon.....todays players have no charisma they boring robots///////////
@chad9455
@chad9455 6 месяцев назад
There’s also just way more distractions now man….
@christopherm6725
@christopherm6725 6 месяцев назад
@robertl8270 sounds like they just aren’t sports fans. 🤷‍♂️ there are a ton of distractions now too.
@Trancymind
@Trancymind 6 месяцев назад
No pun intended but Lebron is one of the reasons why the NBA has gone downhill with his political views of feeling oppressed and much more.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 6 месяцев назад
Kids need to constantly be on their phones
@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 6 месяцев назад
My dad did a good job coaching his youth league team with old school fundamentals. Didn't just let the kids play iso or settle for 3s every possession. They didn't have the most talent, yet were pretty dominant for a few years. My dad was very proud of that.
@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 6 месяцев назад
@@darrel7589 Hmm interesting. Doesn't the superstar still have to trust in a team system in moments? Remember Phil Jackson asked Michael "Do to want to score 60 points or do you want to win?" There's a fine balance to find between building a system around the superstar that complements their game, brings out the best in their teammates, vs just letting the superstar go iso the whole time.
@jacksonorwin2989
@jacksonorwin2989 6 месяцев назад
The problems started in 2005 when the NBA decided to take out hand checking. Steph curry didn't change the game he adapted to the rules, and the new rules negate flow in the beautiful game of basketball.
@JoeyJoverAgbayani
@JoeyJoverAgbayani 6 месяцев назад
totally agree. hand checking is very fundamentals of the basketball. now the game is total shooting spree. cuz no one will prevent players from shooting.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 6 месяцев назад
It ALL started really changing when Lefraud joined. Yes there was that, but then we seen Lebron travelling and getting away with it, NOW he literally SHOVES people out of the way or throws elbows, NOW, we see players like Harden making a living from charging and travelling. They had to allow a certain amount so it wasnt too obvious its rigged for "The chosen one". ALL the things that make me cringe today started with that 1 clown and the Leagues efforts to elevat him.. EVEN WHEN YOUNGER he nearly always needed a creen to do the 1 thing he can do, layup or dunk.
@Dias_De_Noe
@Dias_De_Noe 6 месяцев назад
​​@@Lizards_Loungemy man! I'm ONE HUNDRED PERCENT with you LeBum and the media complex hype machine to elevate a mediocre bull-in-china-shop wino into "must see tv" is what destroyed the game Though it was kinda fun to watch those same standards turned against LeBaby, when Steph adapted to the rule changes and got LeFraud to become the biggest finals looser this side of Wilt
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 6 месяцев назад
@@Dias_De_Noe "Bull in a China shop" haha , Thats EXACTLY what I thought and said when I first seen him, and his entitlement to breaking the rules continues to only get worse.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 6 месяцев назад
@@Dias_De_Noe btw, its refreshing to meet others who can say what they see instead of pretending hes so special, and the delivery all around was hilarious, thanks man, I needed that, been arguing with these Lefraud fans for last few hours and had almost lost all hope in humanty.
@tmac5135
@tmac5135 6 месяцев назад
To be fair to the Curry impact argument, Michael Jordan (and Kobe later on) had the exact same effect for kids. A lot of young hoopers took incredibly bad mid range shots and thought shooting like crazy was the way to win. It made basketball gross to watch for years. We saw this in the NBA as well, don't forget the years when Iverson took almost 30 shots a game when his teammates struggled to make it to 10. Only difference to today is that we didn't see kids from around the world play horrendous basketball daily because we didn't have social media at the time.
@MrSdasf
@MrSdasf 6 месяцев назад
Thank you
@MrMagnaniman
@MrMagnaniman 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, this is really an "Old Man Shouts at Clouds!" video. "Back in my day, we would shoot perimeter shots with our heels on the 3-point line so that they only counted for 2 points when we made them 30% of the time."
@GabiN64
@GabiN64 6 месяцев назад
Yup everyone was a slasher
@sahulianhooligan7046
@sahulianhooligan7046 6 месяцев назад
Yeah Iverson paved way for the no defense heliocentric types like Harden / Westbrook / Irving types
@BrandNameLess
@BrandNameLess 6 месяцев назад
I’d say Kobe & Iverson were part of the initial progression of solo ball. And only got worse and time went on
@Collinjchang
@Collinjchang 6 месяцев назад
I agree completely. Thank God we've still got players like Nikola Jokic and Luka Doncic who use strategy and ball movement and are both still very much attuned to the lost art of passing. It's not a coincidence that they're also both foreign players. I miss the halcyon days of Bird, Magic and Jordan.
@jacobstrouble6631
@jacobstrouble6631 5 месяцев назад
Clown
@SoICYDRE662
@SoICYDRE662 4 месяца назад
Luka is a ball hog
@leestamm3187
@leestamm3187 6 месяцев назад
I'm an old geezer in my 70's who has been watching basketball since the days of Russell and Chamberlain. Your observations about the game are solid for the era of your experience. In earlier days, ball movement, good defense, finding the open man and post play made the game much more fun to watch. Today there is way too much standing around while the superstar does his thing. The 3-point shot, which began in the old ABA, didn't change things a whole lot until fairly recently, when it began to be a substantial part of the offense. Also, the economics of the NBA means too many players want to make the highlight show, which kills teamwork. The big money also means that the game is more about the players' wallets than the enjoyment of the fans. The best of the NBA is in the finals, where you can still see a few flashes of the game as it really should be played.
@MysterianFilmGroup
@MysterianFilmGroup 6 месяцев назад
Who in your opinion is the greatest? Wilt? He's rarely given modern-day credit...
@leestamm3187
@leestamm3187 6 месяцев назад
@@MysterianFilmGroup Really tough to pick just one. Every era has had great players. I saw Chamberlain play in person quite a few times and he was as dominant as any single player I ever saw, but there are just too many greats to single out any one player.
@billmorrison9068
@billmorrison9068 6 месяцев назад
@@MysterianFilmGroup The worst free throw shooter ever, a detriment to his team. No real shooting touch. Anything but clutch most seasons. Greatest rebounder ever, however, and the best defensive center I ever saw before Hakeem--until he had a few fouls on him. To get a better perspective on Wilt, check out his playoff stats per 36 minutes. Not so impressive.
@simonrass2961
@simonrass2961 6 месяцев назад
Maybe you can try some euroleague BBall the get the setplay an team orientated game
@leestamm3187
@leestamm3187 6 месяцев назад
@@billmorrison9068 Statistics are interesting, but they don't measure how a player can affect the play of others on the court and/or control the flow of a game. There are important aspects of any sport that cannot be measured by even the most sophisticated statistical analysis. This fact can get lost in the modern obsession with numbers. Lots of great players did not rack up fabulous stats, but those who competed with or against them and knowledgeable fans who saw them play recognized their talents.
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 6 месяцев назад
Very well said! There are no rivalries in today's NBA. The post up game has practically vanished. And the defense is inferior to 80's and 90's NBA
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 6 месяцев назад
well tbh u need to be very tall to thrive in the post
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 6 месяцев назад
@@jmgonzales7701 Not true. Charles Barkley, the late Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan we're all great when it came to scoring in the post. Of course none of them were centers.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 6 месяцев назад
@@ktapreswreckd921v9 all of them are atleast 6'6. WHICH IS TALL ASF. Find a 5'10 play in the post effectively.
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 6 месяцев назад
@@jmgonzales7701 That's a very good point ☝️. But in the eighties and nineties and even the two thousands.Seven foot centers and six ten power forwards were the main players that played in the post. Charles,Kobe and Michael we're some of the few exceptions.
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 6 месяцев назад
The only worthy rivalry in the NBA is Boston-LA but it’s been a hot minute
@devenchristian
@devenchristian 6 месяцев назад
One cannot deny that shooting has become steadily more efficient over the years. I believe that part of the reason why we are seeing this is that they don't or very rarely call traveling, moving screens, or offensive fouls on the offense side anymore. Couple that with further hamstringing defenders, such as the removal of hand checking, and we have a shoot the three or bull rush your way to the basket type of league. A tweak to the balance would make watching that much more interesting, at least for me.
@nicolasmartinez795
@nicolasmartinez795 6 месяцев назад
They also never call carrying, pretty much every move a guy makes in today's NBA is a carry. It started with AI and his crossover. He carried the hell out of the ball, NBA didn't care because that was his move and if they wanted him to be a marquee player he had to do his move. Pandora's box opened and now we are seeing the effects of coddling the offensive players
@Cashinn_Outt1754
@Cashinn_Outt1754 6 месяцев назад
They can fix it by making posterizers worth 4 points lol
@charlessukati4866
@charlessukati4866 6 месяцев назад
You're absolutely right my brother. The other day i watched the Jazz playing against the Lakers. Every moment the Jazz broke out in transition they would jack up a three-point shot. In the first quarter i saw them attempt more than ten such shots and making only one! It was so disgusting to watch. That's how they lost that game 😮😮
@Knightmessenger
@Knightmessenger 6 месяцев назад
I loathe moments like that, when players act like the shot clock is only 5 seconds.
@mariomanningfan
@mariomanningfan 6 месяцев назад
I went to a high school game recently. First time watching the game at that level in probably ten years. I was stunned. I watched an entire game and did not see a single screen. Every last kid was playing iso and the coaches just stood there and watched. I immediately came home and sent a text back to my buddies in Indiana asking if kids were playing that way back home. Sadly it seems like its everywhere.
@mysticlegion8088
@mysticlegion8088 6 месяцев назад
Iso?? Wow, all game? Hell nah
@mariomanningfan
@mariomanningfan 6 месяцев назад
@@mysticlegion8088 I wish I were kidding. By halftime, I was looking anywhere for someone that might go help. A whole game and it didn't happen once...and even if you could imagine it, you'd at least expect a coach to be yelling on the sideline or in a huddle. Looked like they had no problem with it
@tnylum112
@tnylum112 6 месяцев назад
facts. everybody plays the same way. just iso ball and shooting. no plays for one another. no ball movement. its sad.
@cartiaeketchupreacts
@cartiaeketchupreacts 6 месяцев назад
Dam u from Indiana I am to out of Gary Indiana
@thomash8501
@thomash8501 6 месяцев назад
I had this conversation with my nephew last night. We used to be big-time NBA fans. The progression of time does not equal superiority. My nephew equated today's NBA to WWE. It's all about entertainment, dazzling the fans like Sean said with deep shots along with super athletic drives to the hoop. But pretty much everybody carries the ball when they dribble now, sound fundamentals are replaced with sheer athleticism and although today's players are competitive, they don't play with the same heart and pride that players had around the mid-2000's on back.
@kens2328
@kens2328 6 месяцев назад
“But pretty much everybody carries the ball when they dribble now”. Couldn’t agree more.
@osaji922
@osaji922 6 месяцев назад
Whoa! What a coincidence. I just equated today's loyal NBA watchers to wrestling fans where they either watch out of habit regardless of its bad quality or they delude themselves into thinking that it's good. They have a lot in common. I'm convinced that the only sports league that hasn't completely tanked is the NHL.
@openranks4519
@openranks4519 6 месяцев назад
Guys are overpaid which impact desire for the game
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 6 месяцев назад
But they don’t really even have any ability to finish at the rim anymore though
@ridemywheelie
@ridemywheelie Месяц назад
Just like the modern NFL which I think totally rigs games. All the modern sports are becoming the WWE.
@mayflower53
@mayflower53 6 месяцев назад
A big part of this is the relaxation of travelling rules. Travelling was really enforced back in the day cause it gave a huge advantage to the dribbler. Now there are moves that are are allowed that are basically unguardable and you just have to hope the shooter misses. It really killed the ability of defenses to dictate the game. There’s no good defense to watch any more it’s just hoping the other team misses their shots basically and whoever shoots better wins.
@ericcrane4871
@ericcrane4871 6 месяцев назад
As an old head I agree. Remember when there were sharp shooters like Horry, Kerr, Person, Miller? They were rare indeed but were integrated into a TEAM game. Integration of a low post player, a defensive stopper, great rebounder, mid-range assassin, and passing wizard. Look at the 80s great teams and they all had this combination of fundamentally sound players on their rosters. Ainge, DJ, Bird, McHale, Parrish. Magic, Scott, Worthy, Cooper, Green, Abdul-Jabbar. Isiah, Microwave, Dumars, Rodman, Lambier, Sally. Who has defensive GUARDS like DJ, Cooper, and Dumars? Plus Moncrief, Jordan, Robertson?
@bowmanencore
@bowmanencore 6 месяцев назад
I stopped watching basketball for probably 15 years and got back into it a few years ago. It's definitely a different game. I'm with you - although I'm still enjoying it to some extent, I'm concerned moving into the future, I just won't care anymore. For me, I dislike the frequent foul calls (like T'ing up people over silly stuff) plus the "almost" travels. I know there's some euro step, burro step, hero step, gather step, roman step, walmart shuffle, hamburger crawl, etc. But my god, it looks like they aren't required to dribble. They'll show these "awesome" replays that just look like a dude tucking a football and going for a touchdown. =\
@nathanlawson313
@nathanlawson313 6 месяцев назад
Yup. Cade Cunningham last nite plowed headfirst into Michael Porter (standing still with hands up) and gets the and 1 call??? I mean, I'll take it. I'm a Detroit fan, but still...
@chrisallmaras1463
@chrisallmaras1463 6 месяцев назад
The travels kill me. Giannis omg 😂
@Hellbender21
@Hellbender21 6 месяцев назад
😂your description is spot on. I still like highschool and college. Modern NBA is garbage.
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisallmaras1463 - Giannis is such a terribly overrated player
@clownedoutonfoenemgrave6071
@clownedoutonfoenemgrave6071 6 месяцев назад
Tucking that football 😭
@into_play3226
@into_play3226 6 месяцев назад
For me, basketball started to decline when Shaq left the game. I’ve always been a fan of low post, center-oriented basketball. It’s so much more strategic in nature than the hoisting of threes that we have today.
@xLeeroycranex
@xLeeroycranex 6 месяцев назад
I mean Jokic shoots 3s occasionally but he's the closet thing to prime Shaq since forever and he just won a championship
@JonSmith-hk1bq
@JonSmith-hk1bq 6 месяцев назад
What complex strategy is involved in getting the ball to a big guy and watching him back into a smaller guy?
@holymsophy
@holymsophy 6 месяцев назад
Oh no! I can't watch Shaq rub his fat behind against someone's groin!! 😂😂😂😂 Really, that is hands down, the worst type of basketball to watch. Low post play means the other 4.guys are just watching Shaq push someone under the hoop with his butt. And 2 other guys on the opposing team wondering if they should get into the action or not. You call that basketball?
@diegochavez6203
@diegochavez6203 6 месяцев назад
What are you talking about Kobe always posted
@andrewmallary9213
@andrewmallary9213 6 месяцев назад
@@holymsophyu never watch basketball do you 😭 u really think that’s all any team with shaq did ru special ed on purpose or u can’t help it?
@zackt3904
@zackt3904 6 месяцев назад
One of the main problems is how much rest the players get now. The moment fatigue starts they get subbed out because everyone plays the same position. It used to be that each position only really had one sub each and that included injury. Now everyone is so fresh all the time and it gives the perception of "more athletic"
@HumanOptimization
@HumanOptimization 6 месяцев назад
very interesting perspective.
@MrMagnaniman
@MrMagnaniman 6 месяцев назад
That's partly true. Coaches are, indeed, smarter about subbing in fresh players. But, also, the players now are more athletic. Jordan won 6 in a row by making his team work harder than every other team. Do you think that no one learned from that?
@ryanmahrenholz3944
@ryanmahrenholz3944 6 месяцев назад
Brother I ain’t gonna deny it’s changed the game but players being fresher and more available is definitely not a “problem” lmao. What’s ironic tho is they’ve also started practicing much less hard so players aren’t as conditioned and more prone to injury anyway despite the fact that the subbing should help that.
@zackt3904
@zackt3904 6 месяцев назад
@@ryanmahrenholz3944 it’s a problem because it makes the sport a lot less competitive. Hardly anyone dives for loose balls anymore.
@MatewanMassacre
@MatewanMassacre 6 месяцев назад
LOL they do all play the same position. They're all Guards now.
@HiNRGboy
@HiNRGboy 6 месяцев назад
I'm 40...definitely agree with you man...grew up watching Isiah, Jordan, Dominique, Hakeem, Magic, Price, Barkley, Petrovic, Drexler, etc... I'm actually even more of a fan of the 50's and 60's basketball like Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Russell, Cousy, Sam Jones, etc...some of my all time favorites right there
@40biggaman
@40biggaman 6 месяцев назад
Lack of defense, post up, pick and roll, and back screens are missing from today’s game.
@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 6 месяцев назад
They pick and roll all the time today.
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
@@jordanjenkins1671 - youre right. thats literally all they do is set illegal screens all game long
@johnsondoeboy2772
@johnsondoeboy2772 6 месяцев назад
You clearly don’t watch the game.
@tigeryumyums9407
@tigeryumyums9407 6 месяцев назад
Back Screens and Pick and Rolls are literally 80% of teams offense nowadays. What are you talking about? Lmao
@JonahsWail
@JonahsWail 6 месяцев назад
I just recently watched a youtube post of a bulls/spurs game from Duncan’s rookie year. Wasn’t a playoff game, regular season BATTLE between Jordan Rodman Robinson and Duncan. The intensity was unbelievable. Growing up in the Jordan era, I forgot how the games looked back then.
@mspionage1743
@mspionage1743 6 месяцев назад
Man I loved this video. Someone from my age range, someone with my thoughts putting them out perfectly on a video that I know will get attention. Well done dude.
@TheRbruin10
@TheRbruin10 6 месяцев назад
I feel the same way brother. I grew up watching the NBA in the 90s and 2000s. The game is not what it use to be. That is why I value the game and legends from back in the day so much more. I feel that those players would dominate in today's era where teams dart a bunch 3s and where no one plays real defense. I see you have some 90s basketball wax, right on brother! I am also a 90s basketball card collector myself, especially Jordan cards.
@Lymbe06
@Lymbe06 6 месяцев назад
You hit all the right notes with this one bro. Just wanted to add, almost every team (at least good team) in the league in the 80s-90s had its own unique style. Yes it was centered around the star more often than not but even then that could be a super scorer like Jordan/Kobe/Iverson. A do-it-all forward like Bird/Barkley/Dunkan/Kemp. A shooter like Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf/Reggie Miller/Ray Allen. The centers that reigned supreme, Jabbar/Hakeem/Robinson/Ewing. Teams had identities like the Run TMC (Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin) or the Bad Boys. The Knicks had Pat but were known for their defense and physicality. The Sonics were the original Lob City. Everything had character and soul. Now you draft the talent of the decade, a 7.4 feet monster with the fluidity and plasticity of a guy a foot shorter and you have him pulling up 3s under pressure as if he’s Damien Lillard. So yeah, rant’s over. Hope it gets better somehow.
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
Today they just hype the player while trashing the rest of the team. Like Lebron and the Lakers. Before, it was all about the team even though every team had a star player
@Dias_De_Noe
@Dias_De_Noe 6 месяцев назад
​@@nydibsLeBron is hugely responsible for how trash everything is now Players like him harden etc attention seeking mommas boys who pout and whine when they don't get what they want
@tustari
@tustari 6 месяцев назад
Unfortunately it’s getting worse. I literally have to force myself to watch a basketball game now. The best point Sean made is that if you have fools like LeBum teaching the “fundamentals” of the game to the youth (which for him is stacking your team with superstars in order to provide the path of least resistance to a championship and yet still somehow manage to fail to win) then the future is bleak. Another reason for the death of the game is Adam Silver who has failed at every turn to correct the course of a sinking ship. The in-season tournament (which I still have no idea the point of) and the play-in has done nothing.
@Lymbe06
@Lymbe06 6 месяцев назад
@@tustari yep. The only way for that in-season tournament to succeed would be to have teams from all professional leagues in the US to compete in elimination games. Maybe have some NCAA teams there too. Winner moves another round, loser goes home. Imagine a G league mid-tier team going all the way because a few role players got hot for a month or two. But that would mean getting some excitement in the sport and we can't have that, better just paint the floors to be sure.
@GisherJohn24
@GisherJohn24 6 месяцев назад
Also. No devotion to a single team, rookie to retirement, no physical contact anymore, no teams that win by just defense alone. Remove the hand checks and physicality, it’s removed the ability to win a championship by defense alone. Ee got zero memorable personalities, traveling is rampant, zero post game, no rivalries, no flu games, fighting was part of the game and the players who fight got a small fine and played next game. Game went on. Thank my creator we can watch classic games on RU-vid.
@No-dw5zc
@No-dw5zc 6 месяцев назад
The biggest isssue in todays NBA is the lack of defensive minded teams. It is all about the offense. I used to love clutch blocks and other hustle plays but the teams in the NBA don't care about so we have results like 142-139 which sucks.
@user-jv9qz2bu1r
@user-jv9qz2bu1r 6 месяцев назад
Just like a 12 - 10 baseball game can be boring - too much emphasis on HR in BB - strikeout or hit a HR very boring nothing like. a tight 3 - 2 baseball win with neatly turned double plays. Same affliction.
@No-dw5zc
@No-dw5zc 6 месяцев назад
@@user-jv9qz2bu1r I agree it is all about spectacle not about better competition
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 6 месяцев назад
Clippers are the latest victim to fall into the super team
@ronaldrosario7
@ronaldrosario7 6 месяцев назад
I completely agree with you. I remember coming to this realization back in 2019. Chucking up 3s the whole game is boring.
@xosemblanco
@xosemblanco 6 месяцев назад
Euroleague games are 100 times more interesting than any actual NBA games.
@cornbreadmilton5265
@cornbreadmilton5265 6 месяцев назад
I watched some of Luka's Real Mandrid highlights a few months back
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
I tried watching some euroleague games recently and theyre trash. Same crap as the NBA. So many travels and touch fouls
@n6urprf5
@n6urprf5 6 месяцев назад
You should try and catch an Australian league basketball game (NBL). They play under FIBA rules and the games are a lot more physical with actual defence being played.
@student99bg
@student99bg 6 месяцев назад
​@@nydibs On that front Euroleague has also gone to shit. Just a couple of years ago, maybe 2016 and it wasn't like that. Still, in Euroelague I get the feeling that every possession matters, both defense and offense try their absolute best every possession while in the NBA it looks like they half ass it even on offense and especially on defense
@cresv422
@cresv422 6 месяцев назад
I agree with Sean, I’ve been thinking about everything he said for the past 4 years or so. I grew up on 00s basketball and miss centers and power forwards getting there shots down in the low post and point guards dishing the rock and every team not falling in love with 3s
@kray97
@kray97 6 месяцев назад
I hear you on the evolution of the game - after awhile threes get boring. I think my biggest issue is with load management. We got all these players in the league who love getting paid more than actually playing basketball.
@keepmoving2023-ku7nb
@keepmoving2023-ku7nb 5 месяцев назад
Exactly 💯 growing up in the 80s and 90s watching the NBA all of the players played all 82 games
@DionysusAlS
@DionysusAlS 6 месяцев назад
One simple solution might be to simply move the 3 point line back a few feet. Then the arithmetic of shooting more 3s even though you shoot at a lower percentage won't be in your favor because you'll be missing a lot more frequently, thus discouraging them. The elite shooters like Steph Curry won't be affected too much, but you won't have centers chucking up 3s like now.
@zelenicaljubljanica5410
@zelenicaljubljanica5410 6 месяцев назад
just get rid of the three point line and enforce traveling. if people can shoot from that far now, they will still do it, but the higher percentages of getting closer will force that.
@flameout12345
@flameout12345 6 месяцев назад
The weird thing is that US still produces the best talents, but it's not tailored for traditional basketball that's played all over the world. Nowadays, it's more tailored to marketability rather than traditionally.
@Jerree
@Jerree 6 месяцев назад
Last 4 MVP's weren't American. When Giannis won his first one, 4 outta 5 award recipients that night weren't American
@onlyfacts3178
@onlyfacts3178 6 месяцев назад
no you dont
@cornbreadmilton5265
@cornbreadmilton5265 6 месяцев назад
Olympics right around da corner,Noah n then rest of the World better get ready
@cdknowledge
@cdknowledge 6 месяцев назад
As a whole, yes - but the best talents itw rn belong to Europe, and we don't even really care for basketball like that. I've supported Real Madrid for over 20 years and didn't even realise they had a basketball team until about a year ago while flicking through the sports channels...
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
The NBA manufactures stars today by giving them a ton of free throws. Giannis, Embiid, Harden, SGA... all mid players without the free throws and if they actually officiated the game by the rules
@sosdosautomaticos
@sosdosautomaticos 6 месяцев назад
Bro i'm from Brazil and great basketball fã as you, 43 years old, unfortunatelly i lost my excitement to watch NBA today cuz every team looks like the same team, and i can say the same thing about the players too, it's just a "rain" of three points and thats it, thank you for the great vídeo!!! All the best brother!
@felixcat9455
@felixcat9455 6 месяцев назад
Yes I think that’s part of it. The teams all seem the same. Players bounce from team to team. They are all friends with each other off the court. The teams just don’t have an identity from playing together for years and years. No chemistry, no defense and not much passion. It has gotten boring. Sadly
@djacnotdc
@djacnotdc 6 месяцев назад
I have to agree with you. I was a lifelong fan of basketball. I grew up loving the showtime Lakers . As I grew older, I didn’t become a loyal Laker fan but a fan of the style of play. I despised the rough defense of the bad boy Pistons that became the trend so I gravitated towards the Bulls triangle offense and fell in love with the free flow Princeton offense of the Webber era Kings and the Nash era suns. Fast forward to today and we now miss the tough defense and the post game of the 90s and 2000s. Games then were hard fought. Today, the offense skill set crazy and it’s at video game levels. I really don’t know how good this will be in the long run but the game is losing old school fans. Time for an NBA rule change. Bring back the hand check. Penalize players for flopping.
@Ronaldalan114
@Ronaldalan114 6 месяцев назад
Good vid. As an old head that grew up on showtime lakers in the late 70’s and early 80’s, i agree. I also miss defense, the ability to hand check, and a dominant center. The game has drastically changed. And, I haven’t watched the NBA in years. I only stay up on it through RU-vid, watching content creators like yourself and Jimmy. I loved old school basketball. All that said, I do acknowledge the object is to score as many points as possible with the objective of scoring more than your opponent on any given day. Position-less basketball is here. Ball movement to the most open shooter with a 35% 3pt average has become the statistical advantage. That’s the only strategy that exists it seems, and, statistically they aren’t wrong. The object is to win the game and math has taken over. They don’t care about me, and what I like, they just want to win. They will do so with or without old heads, they don’t care. There is still some hope though. Giannis and Jokic are fun to watch.
@Bez_Spiny
@Bez_Spiny 6 месяцев назад
Agreed 100% NBA has been heading in the wrong direction for a dozen years, it's worth adding to what you said about rule changes and refereeing, whistling every minimal contact between players. Give us back the basketball of the 90s!
@mrcha84
@mrcha84 6 месяцев назад
I think you got the point, spot on. Everything started with GSW, their incredible shooting and small ball lineups that were unguardable using typical 90's lineups. Teams were, in some way, forced to do it. The league embraced it. The teams and coaches and their staff saw 3pt as the "holly grail" of basketball. The league loved "the bigger the better" philosophy. More points than ever, more pace than ever... What do we, basketball connoisseurs ,got from all of this? Basketball inflation. Insane scoreboards, 3 pt shootouts, little to no defence in the season games...40 pts game today is a 20 points game back in the 90's. Just like the inflation of the dollar. Now basketball entered the "Unicorn" era. Everyone in the league is searching for extremely tall ,athletic, universal player to build roster around. We had Bol Bol, Porzingis, Holmgren, Wenbanyama... But there is a guy that broke the modern NBA matrix...at least for some time. Nikola Jokic. I can only hope that we will see players like him in the future... One more thing. Most disgusting trend nowdays is forming instant "super teams". Loyalty is out of the NBA, the players act like divas changing teams like socks...It is pathetic to watch.
@sergioa.9695
@sergioa.9695 6 месяцев назад
It all started with "The Decision" but definitely the Kerr GSW was a tornado that completely changed how the game is played and the league embraced it softening and taking away the beauty of the game more and more. Jokic is a breath of fresh air and one of the few players that i respect nowdays, definitely european talents are the biggest hope fir the future because in the usa young players don't grow up learning fundamentals of the game anymore.
@DaShamGodDONFrankBatista347
@DaShamGodDONFrankBatista347 6 месяцев назад
"Inflation of Basketball" is a perfect way to describe it.
@JoeyJoverAgbayani
@JoeyJoverAgbayani 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 6 месяцев назад
Joker is a great player, but to me he’s just a numbers guy, even with a championship. That explains most of these players now, they’re for instagram and numbers, you got 30+ year old men on instagram like kids.
@bogusphone8000
@bogusphone8000 6 месяцев назад
I would underpin this with the league deciding to stifle defense. A foul used to be called on the initiator of contact. Now, anyone in the way of the offensive player (used to be called defense) is now given a foul. If the league was too simply roll the rules back to normalcy and restore balance, I believe basketball would be awesome once more.
@kc-nl8zc
@kc-nl8zc 6 месяцев назад
Agreed. When a team is down by 1 with seconds left and they go for the 3 is sad to watch
@sukcesor100
@sukcesor100 6 месяцев назад
Couldn’t agree more. I switched to european basketball. Hard defense and tactics are still there. Love for the game.
@rocsteadii
@rocsteadii 6 месяцев назад
It’s not about the beauty of the game anymore. It’s just about putting up high numbers and selling tickets. It all boils down to making money and how much you can get with the occasional highlight. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@troyhines3219
@troyhines3219 6 месяцев назад
I haven’t bought a ticket in 20 years, don’t buy merchandise anymore, definitely not paying a “League Pass” subscription to watch the games live.
@pierovittori1076
@pierovittori1076 6 месяцев назад
same here@@troyhines3219
@shaunphillips3236
@shaunphillips3236 6 месяцев назад
It's called inflated stats
@meoptica8602
@meoptica8602 6 месяцев назад
Totally agreed! I think the lack of defence coaching is the reason it's all happening. Back in my days nobody could just dribble to the hoop and dunk. The defensive players would "slaughter" him before it happens. Now - it's like open door invitation.
@chrisallmaras1463
@chrisallmaras1463 6 месяцев назад
It's the big contracts and all the money on the line...nobody wants to get hurt that's why defense is gone and it won't likely return.
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
Thats not the coaching, it's the rules. When I played ball my coach said if someone enters the paint, you hit him. And if they enter the paint again after that, it's because you didnt hit him hard enough
@WhathehadasSole
@WhathehadasSole 6 месяцев назад
That, knock him on his ass when they come to the paint, ended with those Bad Boy Pistons. People didn't want to see that dirty play slowing down or injuring Stars anymore, especially for Jordan. See if MJ was getting knocked down going to the hoop after he 1st ring🤔. We know he was Michael Jackson big after that, couldn't touch him
@fernandomartinez8932
@fernandomartinez8932 6 месяцев назад
I can’t think of a more beautiful play than a mid range fadeaway (see Jordan) or back to the basket post move that ends up with a layup (see Olajuwon). Thinking that we will never see those kind of players again, makes me sad.
@bigredmachine510
@bigredmachine510 6 месяцев назад
Growing up, I was a big kid who loved basketball. I was always heavier than most players, but I modeled my game after Shaq and Ben Wallace. (I’m only 6’4.) I noticed that basketball started shifting when in high school, I couldn’t keep up with the perimeter style of our offense. ( I was the only one who even tried to rebound.) I’ve never been a fan of small ball and to me that’s when the game started dying. Now, there’s no teamwork whatsoever. The reason why teams like the 2000s Spurs were so successful was because everyone could contribute in different ways. No one man highlight reels, just everyone playing together to win and not to just look good individually.
@josephD32
@josephD32 6 месяцев назад
One thing many people don't pay attention to when it comes to guys like Steph Curry is his off-ball movement. Everyone looks at his shooting and tries to emulate that, but they don't look at his movement, running off screens and positioning himself for a nice open shot or a shot where the contest comes just a tad too late. They want to shoot like Curry, but not do the rest of the work Curry does.
@JohnJFong
@JohnJFong 6 месяцев назад
Reggie Miller ran off screen all the time. The original 3pt assassin.
@josephD32
@josephD32 6 месяцев назад
@@JohnJFong Absolutely! Guys like him worked to get those good shots, instead of just chucking the ball up just because they're at the three point line.
@GMMANN419
@GMMANN419 6 месяцев назад
Reggie Miller, ray Allen, rip Hamilton they all did it better with handchecking
@josephD32
@josephD32 6 месяцев назад
@@GMMANN419 ok, but the point is, most fans and even a lot of players focus on and try to emulate ONLY Curry's shooting, without emulating the rest of the work he puts in to get those good shots.
@GMMANN419
@GMMANN419 6 месяцев назад
@@josephD32I totally agree with that. Good point. It's like in society in general everyone wants to be rich for example but don't want to put in the work it takes to get there. I see what you mean now. Thank you
@DerethAC
@DerethAC 6 месяцев назад
I always hear about how there is more athleticism in today's NBA, and I think that the point always lacks context. If there is more athleticism, it's only because the current game is based on finesse and not power like it used to be. The big, physical power forwards like Charles Oakley and Otis Thorpe are gone now, where back in prior eras they were essential. The soft, finesse game that we have today has allowed for more "athleticism" because of the rule changes. It wasn't that you couldn't find just as many athletic players back then.
@8ealer
@8ealer 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, nobody is more athletic these days, they are just lighter and are not required to learn fundaments, so they could just run and jump all game long. They are not learning many different moves or coordination - I'd even suspect it is actually the reason why they are so injury prone. And on top of it - you don't see any flashy dunks anymore. Starting with Blake Griffin, everyone just tries to jump over and push away the shot blocker. And on the dunk contests that's all they can do - jump over people and attributes. No crazy 360 windmills or majestic hangtime. Only exceptions like Zion and Ant maybe are still into that kind of stuff. Back in a day everyone was trying to show off their physical abilities. Now it is just score and get back on "defense".
@ap6160
@ap6160 6 месяцев назад
Great video! I stopped watching the NBA years back. It's sad what the game has devolved into
@targetegrat
@targetegrat 6 месяцев назад
As a kid in elementary school there was nothing more fun that literally running home from school to catch the afternoon playoff games of the Chicago Bulls in the 90s on NBC.
@scotthayes1210
@scotthayes1210 6 месяцев назад
Bro that low post move with the reverse lay up. It looked smooth as hell
@benmurawski
@benmurawski 6 месяцев назад
You have valid concerns, Sean. I agree with them all.
@FactsNReason
@FactsNReason 6 месяцев назад
Love your content, love your perspectives, love your character! Keep rockin this channel!
@sp123
@sp123 6 месяцев назад
The base skill level today is so much higher than the past. We never seen so many big men with point guard skills or guards who can shoot from half court every game.
@spicywe1ner
@spicywe1ner 6 месяцев назад
it’s becoming positionless and I’m for it.
@insanusmaximus2857
@insanusmaximus2857 6 месяцев назад
I grew up a Larry Bird fan, and stopped watching not too long after the Dream Team. The game seemed more cynical in the 90s, guys were more concerned with their shoe contracts than winning titles. Everybody wanted to be Jordan, but nobody had his fire. I started watching again for Kobe and Duncan, but the superteams turned me off again. I can enjoy the modern game, but it's not "my" game, and I don't think I'll ever regain the love that I once had for it.
@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd
@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd 6 месяцев назад
I have no clue what you are talking about with the 90s not being about winning titles. Were we watching two different sports? Because teams were going hard for a title. Look at Chuck during his run with the Suns, the Jazz with Stockton and Malone, the Rockets getting back to back titles, etc. Those guys were all playing to win.
@sergioa.9695
@sergioa.9695 6 месяцев назад
I grew up loving basketball during the mid 80's with the great Lakers-Celtics rivalry but i absolutely loved the 90's era, i didn't get the feeling you had at all. To me was a very competitive and tough era, the problem is Jordan had an unique drive and was so much better than everybody else. I think the 90's and the 00's are probably my favorite eras of basketball. Nowdays i absolutely have the feeling that players don't care at all about winning but only about money and personal stats.
@nydibs
@nydibs 6 месяцев назад
@@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd - yeah, it wasnt until the '98 lockout that that NBA started turning into crap. The early 2000s were such a watered down league. You had teams like the AI 76ers and the New Jersey Nets making it to the Finals, what a joke
@AlldatJazz-rw9wy
@AlldatJazz-rw9wy 6 месяцев назад
I read you all's comments, and it's not the game it's the players. The game will always be the game, but with all the rule changes, and so many diva players that is the turn off. The one turn off that's making watching the game so hard is how they keep throwing Lebron is goat in everyone's fact. We all have seen real team ball, but when it becomes about just one person it gets boring. Everyday the media is all about Lebron, and the game hasn't taken it's natural course, or being hindered from taking that course because of Lebron and how long he's still is playing. We respected Kareem for longevity, and his personality, but this boi Lebron comes in calling himself the goat, when none of greats would never do that, not even Mike. I said that to say this, when Lefraud is gone, then hopefully we'll see how the game is developing, because these young players like LaMelo makes the game fun to watch. I feel y'all's agitation, but keep hope alive because one day, he'll be gone and the game will be anew again.
@bobbywinstead1
@bobbywinstead1 6 месяцев назад
I think it is overlooked that in the early 2000s the new faces of the league, like Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Penny Hardaway, and Yao Ming to name a few, had abbreviated primes because of injury. A couple of those guys, if they continued to improve and had an extra 7-8 years to play at a high level, would have made things a lot more exciting.
@legimlugero
@legimlugero 6 месяцев назад
This is why Nikola Jokic is dominating he has the fundamentals that he can shoot outside, pound you in the inside, and still have the mid range game, plus he can read the defense, and pass good as well.
@jasonvargas4798
@jasonvargas4798 6 месяцев назад
Exactly, he knows how to play the game, and everyone is stunned because he understands fundamentals.
@sergioa.9695
@sergioa.9695 6 месяцев назад
Jokic is by far the best player right now but make no mistake also him is taking advantage to play in this era. Imagine him having to deal with guys like Duncan, Garnett, Wallace, Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing and Shaq
@jajanka10
@jajanka10 6 месяцев назад
​@@sergioa.9695Oh, Jokic and Duncan would bet like watching two sides of the same coin. He has loads of power un his lower body and his playstyle does not need him to explosive. Imagine the unfairness if he plates with someone like or close to Kobe.. In a era where Penny was feasting because he could go left efficiently.. Not a direct quote, but he has said it homself.
@psychbookman8613
@psychbookman8613 6 месяцев назад
Wonderfully said, so many excellent points. The beauty of team sports is how distinct individuals, with distinct talents, and distinct personalities, can come together to create beauty/excellence. Often times, these people would not have anything in common, but for the fact they are playing together on a team - think Rodman, Pippin, Kerr and Jordan. I too worry that we are losing that aspect...
@mwright_boomer
@mwright_boomer Месяц назад
You’re speaking the minds of a lot of people, Sean. All progress is change, but not all change is progress and that definitely applies to the state of the NBA
@j.wright8157
@j.wright8157 6 месяцев назад
When MJ took his last shot of the 98' season, I'll never forget the words that came out of my mouth..."It's over."😟
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree
@JoeyJoverAgbayani
@JoeyJoverAgbayani 6 месяцев назад
agree. the genuine basketball era was ended on MJ's retired in 1998.
@johnsondoeboy2772
@johnsondoeboy2772 6 месяцев назад
@@JoeyJoverAgbayaniComplete nonsense lol
@billmorrison9068
@billmorrison9068 6 месяцев назад
I said the same when Magic retired.
@johnsondoeboy2772
@johnsondoeboy2772 6 месяцев назад
@@billmorrison9068 “get off my lawn” 👴🏼
@Magnificat42
@Magnificat42 6 месяцев назад
Football has changed as well. Yeah I miss the old NBA, 80s 90s for me.❤
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 6 месяцев назад
Agreed 💯
@MDTRAIN
@MDTRAIN 6 месяцев назад
You took the words right out of my mouth. Great commentary. 🏀😎
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot 6 месяцев назад
I’m with you 100%. I’m 74 and have loved all sports-college and pros-since I was very young. My favorite basketball by far was the 80s. It was about TEAMS rather than stars; playing in the paint rather than jacking threes; ball handling/passing; players staying with a team their entire careers. I could go on, but you get it. It was basketball, not a circus. I miss Bird and Magic, Dr. J, Dominique, rivalries, very physical play(no flagrant foul, but not dirty players vs. today’s floppers). I just don’t feel the same about today’s NBA and it’s not about being a hater. It’s my preference and it was exciting. I don’t feel that today and I make no apologies.
@Matthew-gz4oh
@Matthew-gz4oh 6 месяцев назад
Glad you said this as the NBA use to have multiple ways to win, and not just shooting.
@SherwinLoyola
@SherwinLoyola 6 месяцев назад
It seriously might be time to consider going back to playing without a 3 point line again.
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
Sad but true.
@akumawani
@akumawani 6 месяцев назад
the game reached its apex in the 90s- and its been sliding ever since. but dont be sad that its over. smile that it happened
@atlebakke
@atlebakke 6 месяцев назад
It all ended with one the most beautiful exhibitions of basketball ever: the 2014 San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat finals. A bunch of old guys (and Kawhi Leonard) completely outplayed and ripped apart any attempt at defense by two-time champions Heat, lead by two of of the most atlhetic superstars of all time and Chris Bosh who was a non-factor vs a 37 year old Duncan. When you thougt the Spurs would "finally" take a shot they did another extra pass to a player who was even more wide open. Passing into layups, mid range twos, and threes. One of the modt impressive things I've ever seen. The next year it was Golden State winning the finals. And I liked them, Curry was able to play that way, plus had a beatiful dribble and crazy layup/floater package high of the glass etc. But his shooting made him able to attack the paint like that. He got his shot off in 0.3 seconds, it takes a professional a tiny bit more to even start reacting. Buy why the entire Nba decided it was a good idea to copy the Warriors style of play I have no idea, especially since the reason it worked was because they also had another all time great shooter in Klay Thompson. So basically it's like if they'd put Reggie Miller and Petrovic on same team back in 92.. Now I managed to keep watching unntil the ugliest/most stupid moment I've seen on a basketball court. 2018. Western Conference Finals. Rockets vs Warriors. You remember.. Seewhen they went cold from downtown, but still just kept chucking up threes. No one attacked the basket, no one attempted mid range twos, they just kept on clanking threes, like any other shot was illegal, like they weren't allowed to do anything else, or had never practiced anything but a three point shot. I had never seen anything like it! Now I had zero problems with Houston losing, Harden is the most horrible superstar with the ugliest game ever, but this was one of the games that made me lose interest in the NBA completely. The warriors was able to play this way but should teams in 1993 forced all their players to play like Michael Jordan? And their bigs to play like Olajuwon, and expect the same results? It's like you say, there's no difference between players anymore, there's no proper pg making beautiful passes, no inside post moves, no player constantly attacking the basket for a dunk or draw a foul. I mean, Gobert is a perennial DPOY contender!? Guys like Blake Griffin or Dwight Howard joined at the worst possible moment for players with their skills.The only difference now is "this guy is a great 3pt shooter, that guys shooting is just average. Idk, Kawhi Leonard showed that you can still win with a mid range as your main weapon, Giannis showed you don't even need a three shot. But after a decade of analytics and "3s over 2s" I'm afraid the NBA game will stay this way for a long long time😔
@desertline6272
@desertline6272 6 месяцев назад
True words bro, the only solution Is eliminate the 3 point line.
@Beautimo1
@Beautimo1 6 месяцев назад
I'm a NBA Fan from Germany since early 90s when the first NBA Game comes to the cable TV . I loved the game so much but todays 3PT Shooting Contest the most time >>> I watching more Soccer then NBA Games. The new architype of NBA Players such Wemby, Chet, Joel long and skinny are good but then they more injured then play what brings it to your franchise>>> nothing.
@shadyaov7041
@shadyaov7041 6 месяцев назад
I think a lot of old Nba fans will watch Euroleague as it closer format to what Nba used to be. I got same problem as a new/ish fan of basketball feels like nearly every game is a 3 point contest and when I watched documentaries about MJ,Bird,Magic,AI,Shaq and seen footages of those times I was like "woah! I wished I played basketball instead of soccer in my younger days." Basketball to me became like a drug since during lockdown I had lots of spare time and from day 1 fallen in love with the sport. Thats why even though my favourite teams are Chicago due to MJ and Lakers because of Shaq/Kobe I always root for players like Giannis/Kawhi which play like old school players did.
@12grain
@12grain 6 месяцев назад
It's crazy how much more drawn to games I am from earlier eras compared to today (I'm 29, grew up watching the NBA a lot in the mid 00s). During COVID I would watch old regular season games like Hakeem dueling David Robinson and those games felt electrifying compared to today. I went to watch an NBA Finals game with a friend at a sports bar this spring and we were some of the only people there. I don't even think we watched the full game to be honest. I hope things change though, I loved growing up around Chicago seeing the passion Derrick Rose's Bulls brought to the game
@liverpoolfcx7
@liverpoolfcx7 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I’m sure that since you went to dead bar and couldnt pay attention for a whole game that the NBA is in trouble lol
@JM_Hansei
@JM_Hansei 6 месяцев назад
Dude, you're right, I have the same feelings towards today's NBA way of play as you... I'm 50 yold and I grew up and got interested in basketball by watching 80's basketball (the first NBA game I watched, was Lakers, vs Detroit) and it really amazed me the type of basketball those team played back then. And then, Jordan and the Bulls started to shine, conquering the 90's, and then, in the mid 2000's, Lakers dominated and after 2010, the NBA totally got lost because it started to arrive those Lebrons (yuck), Curry's, Donci's, etc, etc (you know what I mean) where as you mentioned, the whole NBA became almost only about 3 point shooting and eliminating some rules for the $ake of making the game of basketball more 'entertaining' by scoring a tons of point, decimating the physicality and interior game in the paint. So yes, NBA today in my opinion is kind of bore because teams use 3 point shooting as a system (I grab the ball, and I shoot from way behind the 3-point arc line, no matter if the shoot clock is is just starting) to elapse rather than as an option and coaches are agreed with that; also you can see that change and 'evolution' in the many of today's players and positions: there are no more center players sizing more than 7'0 (and those few ones, also like to shoot 3 points) and are not so strong or bulkier like Malone, Wallace, Shaq, etc. So yeah, NBA today sucks but, unfortunately things will never be the same and we have us, as NBA fans, to live in the present and adapt to what it's today.
@JayMil365
@JayMil365 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree Shawn the Splash Syndrome has killed the enjoyment of watching the NBA today, theres no one who can shoot it like Klay and Steph, luckily we have The Joker who plays like a old school hooper, love your vids man, keep on doing what you do.
@crashoverride23
@crashoverride23 6 месяцев назад
I honestly believe that adding the 3-pointer to the game is what led to today. It's became a game of horse or just a 3 point competition which is very boring. If they remove the 3 pointer today's NBA players would not even know what to do out there they will be completely lost.
@chrisallmaras1463
@chrisallmaras1463 6 месяцев назад
So true 😂
@cornbreadmilton5265
@cornbreadmilton5265 6 месяцев назад
Im Pretty sure they would still score from long range.
@schifterrattrap7541
@schifterrattrap7541 6 месяцев назад
Although most players today see the 3 pointer as the be all and end all, I dont think its the addition of the 3 pointer that has eroded the game to what it is today. A lot of bad things have happened to the game. Refs allow players to travel, theres no hand checking anymore, players dont respect their coaches like they used to, no one plays defence, Centers and power forwards want to shoot 3's instead of posting up inside and grabbing rebounds, possessions arnt cherished, its so sad to see. The NBA is a complete shit show compared to what it used to be.
@cornbreadmilton5265
@cornbreadmilton5265 6 месяцев назад
@@schifterrattrap7541 i wouldnt say complete sh!t show
@jacobscholtissek2410
@jacobscholtissek2410 6 месяцев назад
@@cornbreadmilton5265 complete not but compared to what it used to yeah it is
@idonttext9783
@idonttext9783 6 месяцев назад
Great videos my guy
@patrickhoisington5111
@patrickhoisington5111 6 месяцев назад
Love this video, I said the same thing(s) the other day on a social media post... I miss teams having different offenses and defenses, the majority is just pick and roll over and again...
@michaelairjordan23gaot24
@michaelairjordan23gaot24 6 месяцев назад
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@DavidTpitCabrera
@DavidTpitCabrera 6 месяцев назад
Lets talk about Jokic, thats pure basketball imo 😊
@kobebr8480
@kobebr8480 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree with everything you said. I love basketball just like you describe. It’s just a love for the game. I try to watch today and there are some amazing talented players but the foul calls are sickening. Keep up the great work.
@ulyssesrosalez8776
@ulyssesrosalez8776 5 месяцев назад
Watching Michael Jordan and the Bulls actually inspired me to get up and go play some ball. Can’t say the same for today’s NBA.
@Des420
@Des420 6 месяцев назад
The NBA we loved died in the US awhile ago… It’s become style over substance. It’s more important to look good and pad stats, than it is to win. There are some bright spots in Europe where they still play that kind of ball, and not coincidentally those players are currently dominating the league.
@martinmariasonneborn4480
@martinmariasonneborn4480 6 месяцев назад
Dear Sean, in addition to the points mentioned by you, the tendency to eliminate tough defense and Rodmanesque, physical aspects in todays bb hurts me the most. For example resulting in players shying away from blocking dunking attempts to avoid getting posterised or fouls getting called so quickly, that some players made a living of flopping. All this gives todays bb an air of just striving to be a clean-shaven product instead aspiring to be the sweat-dripping and sometimes bad-boy sport I loved like you did. Btw: Where did you play in Germany?
@kens2328
@kens2328 6 месяцев назад
“…players shying away from blocking dunking attempts to avoid getting posterised…”. That couldn’t be a more perfect example of what’s wrong with the game. The stare-downs, woofing, flopping, all that crap makes me turn the channel every time. Grade school players do all that crap now, and it couldn’t disgust me more.
@GBuaccc
@GBuaccc 6 месяцев назад
Jxmmi Highroller’s recent video on the how players aren getting taller but the average height is spreading throughout the positions and is actually even more average with less outliers because now bigs are shooting more and its not because they couldnt before but the coaches restricted their roles, now they are able to play the 1 through 5 so players are actually sharing the same skillset regardless of position.
@hicksboson1
@hicksboson1 6 месяцев назад
I feel you I grew up in the bird magic era. Literally every day I would play from sunup until it was too dark to see. Every single day for years. Every day. Rain or shine. I feel you. I love the game.
@bjornep2
@bjornep2 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree. The last team I really enjoyed watching (from the perspective of being a basketball player of the 80s and 90s) were the Clippers with Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. They could create some inside magic from time to time, although it wasn't that long ago, with the assistance of CP3 and a couple of other guys.
@LAVEGAN83
@LAVEGAN83 6 месяцев назад
It's very hard for me to watch basketball now. It's just not interesting to see guys run up and down the court, shooting 3's. Not playing defense. Traveling and carrying or over dribbling every possession. I just watch during the playoffs. For now.
@ryancan1550
@ryancan1550 6 месяцев назад
As a guy who grew up watching Kobe, it’s sad that the game is gone. I agree with your opinion 100%. While Curry is talented, it’s a shame that the game is changing to this catch and shoot from wherever. I loved how you mentioned strategy. This is why I think the Euro players may dominate the league. Love Luka, Jokic, Sengun.
@verycoldhardybles790
@verycoldhardybles790 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree. That's why I like Jokic, Luka and other players who stand out by having a range of moves
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
I agree 100% with you on this, we are both geared in 90's basketball aka the best era. I like to look at Centers playing in the paint, not shooting from mars.
@SuperSikarlo
@SuperSikarlo 6 месяцев назад
It wasn't the best, it was owned by 1 man
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperSikarlo I see you know and understand very little, that's ok.
@leedesigner1977
@leedesigner1977 6 месяцев назад
I agree hugely, Sean. Also really liked the personal videos edited in, made me extremely nostalgic of my own basketball adventures from the age of 6 to 40. I am from the UK where basketball in the 90s to around 2015 was massive, and now has tailed off considerably. Like you I was consumed by NBA and NCAA basketball, I would be keeping an eye on SLAM and HOOP magazines to know when the next FOX VHS tape was being released... and the only way I could get some of the best games was through PONTEL Europe, which I subscribed to receive a VHS video through the post with several games featured each month (cost lots of $$$), as there was only EUROSPORT and C4 which were showing a small amount of games. Now, sadly, I just can't watch it. Any of it. I stick to collecting the highest res versions of 90's NBA. Even games where my favorite teams LOSE, as its better than watching anything from today. This is of course my own journey and my own thoughts, but most of my friends which are American, Creation and Ukrainian feel the same way. So much talent these days, but I just so against how its being coached and managed. Sean, love your channel, you do a great job mate. Cheers Lee
@kens2328
@kens2328 6 месяцев назад
I remember (fairly recently) when I saw that teams were taking 30-40-50 3-point shots in one game. Absolutely insane. It’s time to get rid of the 3.
@longbeach7623
@longbeach7623 6 месяцев назад
I’m with you. Watching games today. It just isn’t the same as it was in the 90s not even close to the level of quality.
@jasonic-ks2tm
@jasonic-ks2tm 6 месяцев назад
I'm the same age as you and yes I find basketball to be boring. Back when I was growing up every team had a good big man and sg
@nathanlawson313
@nathanlawson313 6 месяцев назад
Chuck more 3s ≠ more skill More skill = More skill Those skills are being lost because guys only practice shooting from half court. (Footwork? Not important bc there's no travels anymore. That's just one...)
@gmenelson
@gmenelson 6 месяцев назад
You are so spot on with your whole take! I couldn’t agree more. And, Like you, this comes from a place of love for the game and the NBA of my youth
@LeviGaston
@LeviGaston 6 месяцев назад
The game is still beautiful and is steadily evolving..Today’s game is fashioned in the way that Pat Riley and others envisioned it would be. They called it positionless basketball. That’s what we have today in the league. You have starting fives where the players are interchangeable and can guard multiple positions. The players today are more skilled than ever.
@monolithgeometry3221
@monolithgeometry3221 6 месяцев назад
Baaaahaaa. The only thing THE ONLY THING that has evolved is athleticism . And all the "athleticism in the world cannot make up for fundamentals, decision making, passing, thinking.. ...that's why Europeans are the best in the world now, which is disturbing but not at all surprising
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
Make the 90's great again.
@SuperSikarlo
@SuperSikarlo 6 месяцев назад
That makes zero sense
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperSikarlo Congratulation on your opinion, now comeback with a counter argument.
@SuperSikarlo
@SuperSikarlo 6 месяцев назад
@@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer I don't need to. You should be smart enough to know this.
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperSikarlo Pathetic excuse, can't formulate a simple argument?
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer 6 месяцев назад
@@SuperSikarlo And yes, you have to, that's how rhetoric actually work. Or you can go back playing with the kids.
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