Why I don't like my $100k Porsche Taycan Supercar - Flying Wheels 

what about Porsche 'spying' on you? You drive to your mistress, your wife can look it up?

You must have lucked out and bought one that isn’t part of the 60% sold that have major battery issues. And did you ever read their battery warranty .. their requirements to maintain the warranty are ridiculous.

Once I learned the car I did enjoy it a lot more. it was great to travel across country with.

I love taycan anyway!

​@@paulb7207 haha. The "spying thing" probably works like the iPhone and apps that track your info and location sometimes for advertising and info selling purposes. Know you're probably asking for your friend but he's safe, unless of course he gives his wife the password to his porsche account which you can locate where the car currently is through the porsche app, but that's just like any other car these days.

All his problems are electric car problems not Tesla problems! Not hating here btw

Go test Drive a performance model Tesla.. it will be like going from a flip phone to an iPhone- you will never return lol.

Good point

@@FlyingWheels Also, any GM vehicle (after model year 2014 if I remember correctly) tracks you via OnStar, even if you don't have an OnStar subscription. And yes, they sell this data. The only way to "opt out" of this is to completely remove the OnStar module from the vehicle... and who knows if the vehicle works right after you do that?

Yes. Anyone worrying about technology tracking them is about 10 years too late ⏰, lol 😂

And smart watches.

I'm curious to see the longevity of the battery how to recycle them and what a replacement will cost. Youre right too. I've seen 1st generation prius' with 300k on original battery. After driving a full week across country though I'm seeing how poor our ev infrastructure is. It's not just manufacturer problems

@My Pronoun is WTF first, the Prius uses battery only to 15mph, after that it used the has motor AND the battery, not the engine only. Second, nuclear power is excellent. I hope we do go back to nuclear power.

@@FlyingWheels My sister had to have the battery pack replaced in her 2006 Prius (mild hybrid, not plugin) after less than 10 years, outside of warranty; cost to her was $7k USD.

I had a Nissan Leaf before I bought my Taycan and you are right, there are NEVER any problems with the Leaf. It is probably the most reliable electric you can buy. The Taycan, comparably, is completely over-specd and the electronics frequently go wrong, usually temporarily and usually it sorts itself. BUT what a car the Porsche Taycan is. I had it for nearly 2 months now and it makes me smile every day. What a drive it is, how intelligently it is engineered, the looks, the design and the quality of the interior - amazing. And it is a real head turner. I absolutely love this car and the opportunity to drive a green Porsche. But if you want a reliable move from A to B, the Nissan Leaf it absolutely the best you could pay for.

@My Pronoun is WTF thank you for the long comment. In some ways I feel similar to you, regarding use of transportation. Since we are all on this planet together, my hope is that we can come together and develop policies that are good for us individually, us collectively, and for the earth itself. Perhaps if more of us understood the science and engineering underlying electric vehicles and other technologies, we would have more personal freedoms and developing a type of transportation that we want. Keep up the good work.

Gotta move that bentley!

Great info!

10 years from now the old taycan probably worth less than the battery lol

If you live in NH Electrified Garage

@@PapaG603 Arizona and that car is LONG gone! Back to Audi 😂

thats why i love NA vehicles fck tesla and their boycott of right to repair, its a damn shame

@@hangtenboy i dont blame u..use to live in Scottsdale..Now New Hamp and i only know cause bout EG cause of RU-vid..Got a 18 Q5 for the snow🤘🤘

@@PapaG603 Yeah, I used to watch EG and Rich Rebuilds a ton

Don't worry, your problems will start soon.

@@bigmacdaddy1234 Doubt it, in fact it keeps getting better with all the over the air software updates. It actually has more features now than it did when I bought it

@@kevinwells9283 So the software update fixes the build quality issues?

@@bigmacdaddy1234 not even what I said. If you read my original post it says the fit and finish is perfect so no problems with build quality. The over the air software updates ads even more features than it had when I first bought it. So the car just keeps getting better the longer I own it.

@@kevinwells9283 Then you have the only perfect Tesla in the world. Congrats. Too bad everybody else doesn't.

Popped the breaker 2x

@@FlyingWheels There is probably a way to set the charging speed based on what your breaker can handle to keep this from happening.

And didn’t he say it was 32 cents a minute to use charger? Can’t be right, he was there 4 hours? That’s $77.00 imagine tax, so $82 with my sales tax. $4.00 $5.77 premium here but $6,02 today in California where going & selling at profit. 20 gallons premium here over $231.00 cars with equivalent HP 16-20 gallon tank weight savings. Know another broken down, my sister thought wouldn’t steal her gasoline engined silly purchase. Stolen first week in broad daylight. 4 freaking hours drive that far, worrying about damage. The race sounds fun not owning it.

tsla mehhhhh

Tesla are great car, I just can’t stand the fit and fitness. If I were to buy a $100K EV, it will be the Taycan, regardless of range since I will drive it within 200 miles radius. EV are not long distance car yet in my opinion, range is too short with too many charging times/interval.

@@jml9550 your mindset is strange. You’d buy the inferior Porsche because of its fit and finish and state EV is no good for long range. But Teslas are amazing for road trips. So you denigrate an entire technology because you have an issue with quality. Very odd. Also the only bad Teslas are US built unfortunately. I’m in the UK and my Chinese built Model 3 Performance is exemplary. And Berlin is coming online soon.

@@ethelred2648 what strange or odd to you may not be to me. My expectations, usage and time maybe different than yours. The fact of the matter is that US built Tesla are prone with quality and fit finish issue and there is nothing I can do to change that fact. I can however can choose a better build product like the Taycan for my intended use. The fact is that Porsche are build better out of the factory. Also, I do not have the time nor the patience to wait for 30-45 minutes to charge every 2-300 miles, also there is always lines at the charging stations. Perhaps many people do and I have nothing against how people allocate their time. I am not dissing Tesla for its technology or fun to drive factor, but as a long time Lexus owner, I do expect more from a $100K car, in terms of build quality, fit/finish and services.

@@ethelred2648 porsche, an established luxury brand being inferior? you tesla fanboys are funny.

RU-vid is filled with videos of Tesla owners running out of warranty and changing their $1200 door handles 3 times yearly. I disagree on TCoO.

@@Bredddi you disagree based on anecdotal evidence? Tcoo is way less on an EV. You sound a bit dim saying “I heard of a guy who had an issue, so I’m never buying an EV”.

The batteries last 15 years?

@@mouisehay930 Take a look at battery capacity vs age graphs. It goes fast the first year (-5%) than goes to -1% per year for about 5 to 10 years, but it slows down more and more. The typical life span of an ICE car is up to 200000km. Some up to 300000km. Tesla showed that EV's go above that. With typical life spans of up to 400000km. Alltough it is true that it is a kind of lottery since a minority of battery packs die much earlier.

@@Bredddi yeah their replacing the handles because they bought a tesla baked bean tin car. Can't compare the quality of the porsche and a tesla

the range is still a large issue, model S almost doubles it in comparison while not having a transmission and going faster

@@voltspc9394 the Model S only has about 13% more range in various tests. The Taycan 4S can run 280-320 miles when traveling between 60-70 mph. My wife drove 280 miles and ended with 15-20% SOC. So what you’re reporting is only the EPA numbers which Tesla overstates and Porsche understates.

@@voltspc9394 model S does not have double the Taycan range in any real world scenario. It has about 10-15% more in most cases.

@@TC-qw3lr That’s just wrong, the largest battery taycon only goes a little over 200 miles if I remember correctly, meanwhile even a long range model 3 can go 280 in a real world senario, it’s at least a 20% difference in range, which you have to admit is significant Edit: all right I’ll be honest, frankly every website I’ve looked at is citing a different number, some say it’s as much as 280, some say it’s only 200, regardless every single number I’ve seen is lower than a long range model three, which is a car that costs a fraction of the taycon, and has a smaller battery, like a significantly smaller battery, so there’s definitely some work that needs done with their motor efficiency and they probably should lose the transmission for weight purposes, the two speed really just adds useless complexity

@@voltspc9394 Porsche gives the absolute worst case scenario range estimate. While Tesla provides a range no Tesla owner will ever get. Model S only gets about 10-15% more range in real world tests.

You should have gotten a Model S Plaid - trust me.... coming for a Cayenne Turbo and BMW 850i..... my Tesla absolutely destroys my German counterparts on SO MANY AREAS that nobody is talking about.

Hi If you don’t mind, what is your profession that allows you to afford cars like this

@So Pro Good for you...just don't go whining to anyone when your gimmiky car breaks down 2 weeks after the warranty expires. Not to mention some newer vehicles have been scrapped due to electrical issues caused by all the gimmicks?

@So Pro Until they break.

I agree Mike. Some of today's modern cars have hundreds of potential failure points which after the warranty will crash its resale.

I agree with you l like old simple cars when you can do repairs with spanner and screw driver . Hate those refrigerator.

I can’t imagine that traditional door handles vs stupid electronic door handles cause any difference in the aerodynamics.

The tesla platform blows everyone else put of the water

You made the right choice. I have a Panamera ehybrid and love it. Was due to get a Taycan Turbo S but had one for a weekend during December and with spirited driving getting 140 miles and careful 180 miles. Crazy on a £159k car. Changed order to 911 Turbo S. You will love the Panamera.

I run the model 3 long range, also happy,, just watch out for the corosion . I think that the wheel house should be 100 % plastic.

what do you do for a living lol

@@miscool plastic surgeon, quant research, principal SWE etc

Taycan range is fine, you can get 300 miles out of it with standard highway driving no problem. Charging isn’t a problem personally but I’m based in Europe so VW group infrastructure is better, also Tesla is beginning to open up their network to other vehicles as well in certain European regions.

And they will charge on power grids run by natural gas, coal, and uranium. We humans love to fool ourselves. Everyone wants to believe lithium mines don’t damage the earth… and that their 100k Porsche doesn’t have an interior made of petroleum and cows. And that it charges off of a cute windmill which will ever outproduce its cost of installation… oh government grants (ahem)

@@Bredddi you’re pissing in the wind. You just trot out the same old rubbish, comment after comment. Come 2030 you’ll be a bit limited for choice won’t you! Come 2035 gas stations will be something like buying camera film is now.

Buy lucid stocks, they are going to be huge.

Is their enough to rent? I just picked up some stock even though i think its overpriced right now..I thought i read they only had delivered under 50 cars? I may have read it wrong.

@@PapaG603 I don't know George... But they do have promotional & test vehicles they use that they might of let Craig use for promotion of the car through Craig....

lol it’s not that easy to ask a car company for a free vehicle especially a small company like that, regardless of the promotion

For 30 minutes it would cost $9.60 at .32 a minute.

Pretty sure he was talking about the dealership where he bought the car in New Jersey

This battery is 79.2 kWh, call it 80. So $8 if you pay 10 cents, $16 if you pay 20 cents. My Prius Prime is EPA rated 133mpge in electric mode, and my actual cost per mile with 10 cent electricity, is 2 cents per mile. It would require 7.5 cent electricity for me to get 400 miles out of $6. The Taycan is rated 79mpge, so if it does as well relative to EPA as my car does, with 10 cent electricity you're paying 2 cents times 133/79 = 3.37 cents per mile. That's if you don't deviate from calm EPA test driving more in the Porsche than I do in a Prius Prime. You probably will. Figure 4 cents per mile with 10 cent electricity if you don't go wild. Below +32F battery temp (not air temp, though obviously if it sits for enough hours, they become the same) most EVs won't allow you to charge. Hope you have a heated garage. I don't know how the Porsche battery is cooled or heated. Maybe it heats itself with some of the charging juice, maintains temp if plugged in, etc. Some EV batteries are air cooled, some liquid cooled. My 2017 Prius Prime battery is just air cooled. In NH winters, I often am unable to charge it, but don't care because I have a gas engine in it also. So, driving and heating up the car, blowing outdoor air through the heater (which then exhausts through the battery if I'm not on recirc, so I'm never on recirc) eventually heats or cools my battery to around cabin temp. Driving in EV mode also heats the battery from internal losses. The battery isn't too efficient when it's cold, but at least it does work, unlike charging when the battery is too cold. I highly recommend that you find out the technical details of what the car does in very cold weather to warm up the battery and allow charging. Also, whether or not there's a battery heater you can turn on when the car is off and not plugged in.

EVs perform worse in the cold but especially extreme cold. They’re best in milder climates but ok even into the single digits. Probably not worth it in the extreme cold though it just depends on how much you drive. Depending on where you live you might charge for free. I don’t bother charging at home because there’s a fast charger in town that’s free. Also, Porsche gives you 3 years of free charging at Electrify America so you basically get free fuel on longer trips.

@@bluerootz there is no free charging. It’s just paid for by somebody else. I have a friend who owns a towing business and it’s amazing how many people get a tow in ev’s in the winter here (northeast South Dakota) after trying to drive their new car electric car in the cold. They all say they’re getting rid of it when they get home. That being said, if a person has a 3-6 month old ev and wants to get rid of it, how hard is that to do? Is it a 30% deduct or a real fire sale?

@@Rudevette what are you even talking about? I’m sorry but maybe you speak a different language than standard English. I don’t care to define every word I use so that you can understand me but my definition of “free” is “costs no money”. Feel free to substitute your definition but don’t try to manipulate my words in your mind to the point where you can’t understand what I’m saying. Make sense? We don’t need to argue about who is paying. That’s stupid.

@@bluerootz I’m very sorry that you aren’t able understand how electric vehicle charging subsidies work. It’s not complicated for most people to understand…. Except maybe EV owners.

Well my dealer in Costa Rica is keen on tell me that there’s a new software feature that will tackle all of this issues…looking for support after placing my order today 😂

Remember - Tesla's evolve every month - and the new Model S is nothing like your P85D. It is way, way better.

@@mullholand Basically everything under the skin of the newest gen Model S is a completely different car. Everything from the two rear large aluminum underbody castings for the suspension points and the completely different suspension to the electronic control hardware to the carbon wrapped motors, etc, etc.

Each one, but not if you buy with the intention to resell. He won't actually be able to take the credit without committing tax fraud. Buying a new one every year, actually using it as your daily driver, and selling the year-old one is as hard as anyone ought to push it, and I'm not guaranteeing that even that couldn't cause problems with the IRS. It's a gray area, but the IRS is the wrong organization to get aggressive with.

I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s the electronics since it’s essentially a big vcr that u can sit in