why i don't play fighting games 

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Them: "Ah, I see you are trying to go for the Archibald gambit, sacrificing your knight early to protect your pawn so it can promote later on and set my King checkmate." Me, who just avoided touching the Knight because horses weird me out: "...yyyyyyyyyeah."

no but that IS us taking it easy on you... until we get bored of you not even trying to learn anything or actually engage the game beyond mashing the buttons.

@@bshpev ma''am this is a jack in the box

I take it easy by selecting someone i'm not familiar with... until i accidentally do a cool thing and wanna see what happens, and shit, now i know how everyone in the roster plays to a basic level

I once angrily told my best friend it was bullshit he was "taking it easy" on me. So he showed me what would happen if he wasn't just fucking around. Turns out he WAS taking it easy on me and that is just what that looks like for people who enjoy those games. When they get sweaty you don't even get to move off the start.

It's like Sephiroth, you know? He's going easy on you, but it's still not easy to defeat him.

But now? He's turned pure evil hasn't he. What a tragedy ;p

Exact opposite of the character portrayed here X)

What a hero

This is rare. We need more pros like this.

I hope he is having a great time where ever he is. The scene needs more people like him.

ok this is what I think now too

He said “wanna play again”

That was really good 😆

​@@littlemoth4956he played it in his mind

Part of it is literal muscle memory so I can never be too mad when I get clapped

Bro the worst part is they probably WERE going easy on you. Even bronze players can kick the shit outta new players easily

@@jaddy72 yeah, fighting games have crazy high skill ceilings (the good ones, at least)

I beat my friends' asses then teach them things they can do to improve bc I feel bad whooping people that hard

I do this but that's more bc I don't wanna go easy unless it's specially requested, and I go out of my way to also tell them about things while I'm beating them up, and if they wanna learn I'll come at them with everything I have, and I'll tell them what the answer to a given option is, etc. It becomes me teaching them things about the game which helps me further my understanding

This is honestly what keeps me from getting into FPS. With a fighting game I can at least button mash 1v1 until I get a feel for it. Every time I play a shooter I get sniped while I'm still learning the camera.

It's always so strange to me when my friends who play Overwatch say that fighting games are too hard for them. Like, competitive shooters are INSANE, I don't understand how people can process them.

This is why I firmly believe headshot in games don't add fun unless it's a single player game, or if headshots don't one shot you. Sure it may be realistic but that doesn't mean fun.

Yeah FPS you just have to accept you'll be trash for a while and I get why that's not fun for a lot of people. Like when friends try to get me to play fortnite- 0 chance I can ever catch up to 17 year olds who have played nonstop for 5 years now.

lol'd at different county

My school has a Esports team and despite being fairly good at it competitive smash has ripped out all of the joy I had for the game I actually hate playing smash because playing it for so long all the tiny issues build up to one large issue

I did this with my cousin until he started getting cocky and being a bit of a jerk to everyone he beat. That's when I switchd to my Main (King K Rool) and just went to town on kicking his ass over and over again to force a bit of humility into him.

​@@jinxact532 same

​@@jinxact532 What are these tiny issues that you are talking about?

@@redmage8719 smash bros nit be built if competitive okay at all joker has a 360 counter that lasts far too long the input buffer system just feels bad and the hit boxes are terrible and not well balanced some like byleth and fox have attacks that will hit forward but have a 360 hut box so if you are behind them you can still take damage they can even clash attacks from behind which is dumb as hell

You love to see it

You became the skill issue and I love it

This happened to me too and it was nice

thats awesome to hear you cant have fun playing a game with your father anymore, and have to beat him eveytime to make the game not fun XD

It really do be like that sometimes

it happens to the best of us

I've been trying to get some friends into Guilty Gear Strive with me, but the skill gap is huge. I have to impose rules on myself like, "Don't use special moves" or "Don't use my main" just so they can get used to the controls and buttons. My only hope is that my friends still have fun when they play.

*most

I love fighting games. I dont touch multiplayer. ever.

FGC be like that, yeah haha

I liked those first two comments but this one is 100% me

Happens at the higher level too lmao

I had a friend who was very good at street fighter, and I, who was dreadfully average, would do "just one more" until I won. It would usually take 20-30 matches, with him switching around to characters he'd never played before. Unfortunately, this is often how he found his best characters though

Yep, fighting games are only fun if both of you happen to be at comparable skill levels. I remember my best friend as a kid was just naturally really good at most games so if I got a new game, I would practice for a week just to be more of a challenge but he'd still usually kick my butt. My brother also refuses to play fighting games anymore as he ends up rage quitting every time. I don't mind losing but I hate not even being able to get a single punch or kick in (which usually happens if you play any fighting game online where people have dedicated their entire lives to it).

I love trying to beat my friends in smash with solomar (olimar w/ no pikmin) and sopo (ice climbers but you kill one on purpose)

​@@JeppersGaming how do you go sopo

@@Kayso789 You play ice climbers but you kill one on purpose.

@@SimpleAmadeus yo fr?

@@Kayso789 fr m8

first turn: 2 link summons, 5 xyz summons. 4 omni negates and 1 field spell and 2 trap cards. "Hmmmm guess I won't play the game"

It's almost like this is a universal experience with any high skill competitive game.

Thats why i only like classic YGO

Exodia… game over

ProZD's Cow card game also perfectly describes Yugioh lmao

They rarely learn good if you go easy on them. And when you don't, you basically combo them 0% to death accidentally because you forget you're fighting a new player and they get frustrated. But then going easy feels... weird and unusual.

sasuga

@@Chillwave6 you can't not play the game. if my opponent doesn't block sweeps im gonna keep sweeping until they block it. i'm not just gonna stop my pressure or let myself get hit to go easy on them

Well said

@@romacalor I remember a friend challenge someone in tekken 6 and the other guy who i fought before that had definitely learned one of the Mishimas well, but when the new guy came in and spammed his way to win as Panda, he got mad and refused a rematch even when i told him to just fight back the spam. If you're not willing to improve and trash talk a newcomer, it's not a good way to do it.

theres sfx

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Balanced as all things should be

The sound effects are working pretty hard to sell the fight, but that's just solid editing.

@@BonaparteBardithion LOL we need to see the version without the sound effects!

"forgetting"

Melee came out in 1989?

@@ballistic2527 yeah I went to the midnight release they gave us all free crystal pepsi

@@ballistic2527 Real Melee players started it before it even came out. That's how good they are at the game.

This is how i would get my friends to play fighting games, too. Tekken was one of our favourites.

Good taste and great methods. Hell yeah.

Huh, as many times I tell my brother the controls for Smash Bros. he still manages to forget how to play in a couple seconds

@@shade159 lmao, and for some people, they're just not cut out for it. It's kinda funny because I'm decent at fighting games, but suck ass at games like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. Similar concepts when it comes to execution, but i just dont transition smoothly.

Absolutely based.

I generally restrict myself to a couple of low damage moves and no combos.

I usually just pick characters I rarely or never play.

You could just use normals with no jumping blocking or supers and probably still wipe the floor with them

Even worse on that is it's hard to throw away fundamentals. Even very basic knowledge can make people feel like they have no chance.

go defensive. don’t attack them but also don’t let them damage you to much so lots of parries/counters, throws and fake outs

Locals man Best way to go

While losing a whole bunch of matches does suck, if you play for a while you learn to appreciate it because it makes you a better player. I know that I learned way more from getting wiped at a local than beating my friends all day.

i mean, get good?

Failure is a great teacher, to be fair.

I consider getting improving in figbting games akin of the gym, you wont start with weightlifting or grab huge, you gotta adapt your body progressively, in figvting games you wont fight an absolute pro but youll find someone akin to your own level or a big reachable with enough window for reflexes and tactics, and progressively get better as yoi feel the pain of the losses and get better.

@@Reialine Yeah! Finding someone close to your skill level is finding a partner at the gym. You spot each other and push each other to keep improving little by little.

So you’re stuck playing with online degenerates in cursed ranks.

@@nameputhpong9041 i feel this in my soul

@@davidb4935 Even worse, when you find a fighting game you just can't wrap your head around and choose the safe option of playing against...the computer

so too arrogant to play with friends but too bad to win in competitive

Oh geez that’s me

Give them the "why button mashing doesn't work" video.

Yeah I had this exact problem trying to get into Guilty Gear. Pretty much everyone I know who plays tryhards the game to such an insane degree whenever I was trying to learn it was like 'ah yes a classic mistake, you actually need to do the Megatron Nutbuster technique for this matchup otherwise I can just use the Cock and Balls grab to take away half of your health and win instantly which I will now do. Better luck next time champ.'

@beyond your imagination if you are trying to be funny, doing the same joke over and over just ain't that. If you're trying to get a response, here ya go, hope you feel just great. And if you're somehow scamming people, just piss off. Hope you have a mediocre day at best, bye

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I agree with this, because I am dogshit at the traditional fighters like Tekken and Street Fighter. Someone people train me to become a prodigy and I'll teach you how to play Super Smash Bros with items on.

It's damn fun right? Especially hitting that one setup you've been tryna land in the labs for aaaaaaaaages lmao. Meanwhile, I learned heaps from players that washed me. Yeah, they spoke little to no English (latin americans love older fighting games) but they were beasts. We just "jajajajaja" and play for hours on end 😂😂

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Dang, I would have actually incinerated them if I were you :/

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Lol! That's like what my little brother did when we played Pokémon stadium before XD I had just pressed the button to do the last pokemon attack that would end the match, then he went up and turned off the console so he did not have to see me win... haha! XD

😂😂😂😂 this reminds me of when I beat my brother in super smash bros melee. my brother was the freakn best and none of us could beat him. he was so damn good. one time idk how but i managed to win and i was yelling at my other brother to come to the room to see that i beat him. he reset the game cube and when my brother came in the room he told him that i was just making things up and that we just turned the GameCube on and he believed him since it looked like it was just turned on but he had just hit the reset button ...what a dick haha

Aww, that's petty

Exactly, competitive games are at their most fun when you're both on the same level. I'll never understand the types who abuse their friends' charitability to their interest in fighting games to just steamroll them for some cheap kicks -- I'm desperate to get my non-fighter friends into fighting games and bring them up to my level.

Did this with my nephew at a retro arcade recently. Walked up to Tekken 2, picked our characters, and then laughed at each of us clearly not knowing what to do. It's a great way to enjoy a fighting game if you can enjoy being bad at something. Some people just can't, though.

This is by far the most fun way to play a fighting game IMO

Those are some good times.🥲🥲🥲

I’ve played a lot of games and really practiced honing my skills to get good at gaming. I 100% the majority of games I play, and one of my proudest moments was getting 104% on Hollow Knight. My son’s father literally NEVER plays video games. He bought me Mortal Kombat 11 for one Christmas because I had convinced him to play it together. He absolutely kicked my ass in the one match we played and I was too salty after that to ever play again lol. Men, as a whole, have better motor skills and depth perception, and this just demonstrated how my years of constant gaming couldn’t overcome evolution lol.

The good ol' Chun-Li, nothing bests poking at them mfs with her Down HK

I always tell my friends to just get better. Internally I tone it down a little so I'm not just overpowering and cheesing the shit out of them but end of the day you can't tell the next guy don't use that character you just gotta figure it out

IMO, this is why when playing with people of different skill levels, setting Handicaps is so important if the game allows. Smash can be a ton of fun, but if you're playing with people that don't play often, you *have* to fiddle with handicaps until it starts to feel like an even fight. Especially with 3+ players, you might need one to start at 70%, 30%, and 0%, just so everyone feels like they have a chance without the most skilled player needing to ""go easy"".

@@BlueShellshocknah just try to learn from your mistakes and hit training mode

@@hands-ongaming7180 not everyone wants to do that some people just wanna chill and have fun. it takes a lot of time to get really good at fighting games that not a lot of people have

@@Lin_Eileen takes 5 minutes to hit training mode. Even if you’re just a masher those 5 minutes a day/ session can expand your knowledge

as an older brother, it is something all small siblings must learn. we are not here to play a friendly game of ssb or mortal kombat. we are here to teach you that pain is your new best friend.

If we don't show you the ruthless side of the world, you lesser (read: younger) siblings might just die on us and that would make mom sad. We're doing you great favors. You'll understand someday.

@@bug5654 This is the most older sibling response ive ever seen. "this is to educate you and help you survive in life"

Same

To be fair, we did tell you to hold back to block. That was a freebie.

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That's so sad 😭😭😭

That's so mean. I want to hug you (the younger version of you)

I mean you just gotta block and then spam any projectile.

Winning only because you refuse to teach your opponent how to meet you on your level is the most boring way to play a game. Like, that's the whole reason the phrase "iron sharpens iron" exists.

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as someone who plays fighting games i can not explain how humiliating it is to lose to someone button mashing

but the amount of hours you have to put to even have a possibility of winning without button mashing is massive, it's basically like the hours you would put in a JRPG

EDDY WINS

the best thing is when you keep using a stunlock move you discovered by accident and the other player gets frustrated and says you beat them in a "cheap" way

Button mashing only works on bad players i would know, I lose to button mashing regularly!

There's definitely a pretty smooth slow skill curve in fighting games just like any other competitive thing, it's just that it only works that way if all parties involved at least kinda know what they're doing. Even someone who totally sucks by the standards of actual tournament players will still destroy a complete newbie because one guy knows how to move around and put hitboxes where they want to put them and the other guy just doesn't. It's like the difference between an NBA player and a dude who played on his high school basketball team for a few years. There's a galaxy of skill difference between them but if you don't even know the rules then you're still gonna get crushed. There's a certain time investment you need to put in before you can actually start 'playing' and a lot of people get discouraged because they don't realize that.

There is a middle-ground, it's just that for people who've never played a fighting game is doing the equivalent of wildly flailing the camera and shooting in every direction hoping to hit the target that's right in front of them. First you need to learn what your buttons do and where you might want to use them, like use the short and fast ones when you're close and the long-reaching and slow ones when you're far. Then you need to know that if you're scared of the other person hitting you before you can hit them you need to block, and if you notice they're blocking your moves you can try throwing them. Once you can control your character like you control your character in a shooter or a MOBA - walking around, aiming, clicking at who you want to hit to do damage and how to avoid them doing the same to you, using the mechanics the game gives you - that's the middle ground. Now you're at the gates of being able to learn how fighting games actually work.

Fighting games are definitely the least “casual friendly” games out there. It takes a shit ton of practice to even be able to control your character properly and fluently, not even mentioning being able to execute combos and react to your opponent properly and timely, that’s why “good” fighting game players absolutely stomp noobs Is because there is always a crazy skill curve. It makes fighting games really difficult to get into IMO

@@shaunkennedy174 it takes a shit ton of practice to look around with your camera in an fps and move at the same time

@@shaunkennedy174 True, but you only need to learn that once. When you get a grip on basically any fighting game, you develop a baseline skill level that makes you at least passable in every other, with the exception of maybe Smash.

Maybe be less of a jerk about it then and maybe people will actually want to play with you

@@bennu547 "countless people trying to get me into them". People want to play with them, that isn't the problem

@@bennu547 lol what

Try getting into it yourself. I got into fighting games cus of Guilty Gear. Shit is fuckin awesome. Specifically GG Xrd, that game's visuals fuckin floored me and made me wanna play it even though I've never touched a fighting game before it. Sure I lost a million times to randoms but it's still fun cus you get better and better just as long as you don't quit. It's worth it dude. Fighting games are worth the struggle.

Honestly if you wanna get to the fun in fighting games, ask questions. Ask the people trying to get you into them to *teach* you. If you agree, they curbstomp you, and then you stop right then, nothing was gained. Any member of the FGC worth their salt will happily share info with you if prompted. In fact, it can be hard to get us to shut up about the topic you asked about and you'll wind up with more knowledge about the combo or move than you really wanted

The best way to have fun with mtg is to have decks that are a similar power level. I've bought a bunch of premade decks from card kingdom for my siblings and they're pretty much evenly matched with each other, with some fun deck gimmicks and avoiding the OP cards. I make my own decks instead because I enjoy that process, but I try to avoid expensive cards, both because I'm cheap and also so I'm more evenly matched with them.

Damn. My first game day was Axis And Allies Europe a few months back. You’d think I would lose, I chose Britain, but my strategies were so off the wall that no one knew how exactly to deal with me. Still haven’t finished that game actually, it’s still ongoing

When I was in high school I used a deck from rando cards I'd gotten off other people for free, or for a very small amount of money. I eventually built a shitty Zurgo commander deck. Needless to say it wasn't very good, but the guy who had spent the most money out of anybody there had a Meren commander deck. I think I won once in two years against that deck, but somehow never got tired of trying to beat it.

and that's why i carry with me "dueling decks" that are meant to be played against each other since their power level is that similar. that way if i manage to cajole someone into playing MTG for the first time, they won't be completely outclassed just by card power level

Imagine playing chess against someone who had twice the pieces. You wouldn't even call it "Chess" anymore. That's what it is to play against a vastly superior MTG deck, and why beginner decks are important

Getting mad at handicaps is a bitch move, though. Yeah, I'm better than you because I like playing this game and I play it more than you. I'm giving you a handicap so you can have fun too -- if you don't take the handicap, you just hate fun.

For me I had a similar but also kinda opposite problem; I just liked getting better at smash bros, I found a lot of fun in the challenge of it. For some reason some of my friends always suggest we play smash bros., but get very upset if they start losing. I stopped wanting to play smash because of how they'd act, but for some reason they still suggest it haha.

@@Geffro and then you let then win and they rub it in your face for weeks haha yeah this exact situation really tore a good friendship apart for me lol

@@Geffro I don’t suggest smash in my household anymore lol

mfs won't accept the handicaps when they literally get streamrolled every time

Absolutely based.

That's even worse because now the friend that sat down to have 10-20 minutes of leisure time feel like they just joined a lecture on how to learn guitar.

@@meltygear5955 Fighting games aren't rocket science, my dude. Sure it can take a lot of time to get to a competitive level, but when playing with friends, you only really need to go over the basics, then answer any questions they have during/between rounds. Basically just make it clear that you're putting effort into ensuring they're having fun, rather than using them as an excuse to play a game you enjoy.

@@firekirby123 yea but him and his friend called this person “this dude.” Meaning they’re aren’t and don’t know each other. And this story doesn’t really provided that much context neither. So for all we know, the person could had said “I haven’t much of this game” and the other experience person could had been like “oh ok” and took his words as “I didn’t played for that long period of time”, and proceeded to casually auto pilot the game while he was trying to ask questions. Like everytime he do a combo, he be like “Wait! How did that work” and while he explaining it while doing the combo, he say “Freeze, stop, Halt, put down the controller and then explain it to me” in a real time match. If he just a random guy, he not really entitled to just stop and teach you how to play the game. You definitely right with your comment no doubt but we don’t even know what game this guy is playing

@@firekirby123 fighting games are 100% button mashing muscle memory. First you have to learn the button mashing order, that takes weeks to learn the order of all the moves. Then you have weeks of building the correct muscle memory. Any game that takes montha to be good at it is a waste if time. Get a life and do something other than "getting good" on a screen in a 20 year old video game

Ugh.. a casual.. YUK!! Or maybe he combines Killer instinc with Marvles vs capcom

One thing that i love about the fgc is that most people that are passionate about fighting games is that they love see new player play the game that they love and they encourage you to play more and even teach you stuff you don't know unlike in other game community like league where they tend to discourage new player for not knowing what to do

Who was the character? They must of been cool if they single handedly got you into the fgc

@@teep7303 Potemkin. Grapplers are just so fun, I'm trying to learn King in Tekken now and enjoying it, even though I've got a lot to learn.

The way to get into the fgc is to channel your inner dwarf and accept that losing is fun

Boy, I've been playing fighting games for 20 years. I'm just trash.

Yeah, great friend

I don’t think that guy was your friend; I think he was a bully.

Classic

Probably the kind of guy who says "no button mashing" even though he didn't give you chance to learn any moves because he would cry if you actually got lucky and beat him

:,(

Sorry mate. Iy sucks that you genuinely want to learn how to play well only to have people make you feel like an idiot. You’re not you’re just new and are just learning. People can be very anal and opinionated about it and that only makes others not want to learn from them. You just feel like shit. And they wonder why you don’t want to play with them. Belittling isn’t cute

Find a teacher that encourages you to play vs others rather than themselves. It's so much easier to learn vs someone whos the same level as you

Genuinely I just kinda tell them what all their moves do at a base level, then I just do my stuff and explain why I beat them, or why that move does what it did, and I make sure to let them know when they do something right. Belittlement doesn't get you anywhere but if you find someone who gets excited about the game and then just let them talk about the game while you play. You'll pick stuff up fast. Ask them stuff like "why didn't my move work" or "how do I stop you from doing that?" Any fgc member worth their salt is happy to share information as long as you aren't like. At a tournament.

Yeah, it sucks, you gotta be careful because a lot of people just get off on steamrolling, even against a newbie. That said, if you do find the right person to help you or the right hook into fgs, it really is a fun experience.

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i thought he was saying "Grapple, grapple, grapple!"

@@kaitykaiser1621 he is since grapple is an actual fighting game term

@@kaitykaiser1621 he might be but i think gobble gobble gobble is funny so ima just go with that

@@AlphaFlare he was saying combo combo combo

you mean combo combo combo? Thats what was said :)

yea as a smasher, you’ll get that a lot in this community due to smashers being cringe. but if you come play tekken and SF i promise you won’t get that treatment. don’t make excuses

@@BlackWeeeb "don't make excuses" and just like that, you proved her point entirely. Great job.

yeah items are great for that and kids can get nasty with then, little timmy may not know how to DI but he can still chuck a bomb at your dumb ass while you're trying to go after someone offstage

Another trick is to use a time ruleset instead of stock, because no matter how bad somebody is they always come back into the fight, they don't end up sitting around waiting for others to finish because they lost all their stocks.

I like putting it on auto handicap so it makes it harder for the more experienced players.

Smash is absolute garbage and the player base is 100% autists

One time my friend invited me to play a baseball game she really liked that I'd never played or even heard of. I ended up totally crushing her by accident by getting three home runs in a row. I've not been invited to play that game again.

Well said

@@mori6434 well, maybe you should have stopped at one XD

@@mori6434 suffering from success?

Plot twist: they love absolutely bullying you.

You can't undo fundementals.

@@MiloKuroshiro Yeah this is a big thing. If I say, play Melty Blood as Nero. If I go easy, well ok I wont do combos fine. Oh I wont bait attacks into my traps. Ok then I wont use IADs. Ok I wont harrass you at range with my projectiles. Ok I'll not do anti-airs quite so consistently. Eventually I'm plain just not playing the fighting game anymore. And half this shit is stuff I can do on any character in the game learning their normals as I go.

99% of the time when they say they'll take it easy on you they mean "I'll use this guy I only have 200 hours on compared to the 5,000 on the others."

@@fearedjames you sound like a terrible person to play with

Hey hello how do you do? :)

LOL I know this exact feeling.

Imagine actually having locals near you. Imagine actually getting to play with people offline.

@@DoctorGalactor yeah man, in my country there's locals almost only for tekken and maybe a lil smash, both games I'm not really interested in getting competitive at

The eternal struggle.

Same 😂 My worst nightmare is someone bringing over a new board game. Most board game lovers don’t know how to take “No, I’m good thanks, I’ll just watch.” as a valid answer.

Well, if you fall for an antiair 3 times in a row that's on you

Clever

This extra funny because spamming shoryouken is literally what a noob would do

then you ask them if they're ok? BUSTA WULF

You went through a whole anime protagonist arc

Yeah, these guys are like supervillains lol. Overly excited when things go their way, and overly upset when things are not going their way. They only want that instant validation and gratification, which means absolutely nothing, because it's from someone that has no clue what they are doing, and when the validation becomes harder to obtain, they sulk and walk away. I think there is a whole thing with them being neglected by their parents emotionally for so long, so they look for good feelings in other ways, and they remain immature for a longer time because of it.

I had the same experience myself the first time I visited a friend's house and played Halo 2. First time I'd seen an Xbox, first time I'd played H2. He dropped us into Blood Gulch in a 20 Slayer match and just hunted me down while I was trying to figure out the controls. Words were had and I ended up going home much earlier than expected, but I don't regret it.

@@GrimSavant Are you sure my friend isn't my brother? Sounds like something he's done many times 😅 whenever he has a new friend over he always makes them play Halo 2 with them so he can completely decimate them in a fighting round. It's gotten to the point where his friends would rather watch me make them dinner than spend time playing games with him.

@@catherinerucker1482 I have now learned that if I want to introduce someone to halo I will play the game’s campaign with them on a sane difficulty for a newbie (Easy if they haven’t played any shooters, normal if they have)

Damn, that sucks. I play Magic and I've never had that much of a douchey experience, most LGS types are really chill in my experience.

Reminds me of a time when I had a guy try to get me into Yu-Gi-Oh, except at least I didn't have to spend money. He let me borrow his really shitty starter deck... and then absolutely steamrolled me with his actual deck. Didn't help that he was trying to teach me pendulum summoning with a deck absolutely not built for effective pendulum summoning so I got zero sense of why I would ever want to play a game with such a confusing mechanic.

@@corvidaeae It also doesn't help that Pendulum decks almost universally suck ass so it's absolutely bizarre someone would try to introduce someone to the game via a deck which uses an unintuitive mechanic they will almost certainly never fuck with again once they start building their own deck. These sound like the actions of someone who actively wanted to drive you away from the game.

@@Rynjinivar To be fair to him this was back when pendulum was relatively new, maybe like 6 months to a year after introduction/release. So I'm pretty sure he was legitimately optimistic this would be relevant to the meta going forward, and thus was worth learning.

this kind of situation is why I quit and now hate Magic the Gathering. I had one friend who was a life long collector, had thousands of cards. I started getting into the game, and had a starter deck, and wanted to figure out how to play and the rules. Every time this guy would play me, he would used the most over powered decks he had and just stomp me, without really teaching me anything. Well, then I bought someones magic collection. I created 3 REALLY good decks. I built a deck specifically to beat that one guy who kept stomping me. When I started to win, he quit the game and refused to play against me after that. The moment he knew he couldnt just stomp me without trying and that I had a chance, he refused to play anymore. He kept telling me hes done with Magic, that he quit and doesnt want to play, but I would find him playing all the time, and when I would ask to play next, he would always refuse. He mocked me, and made fun of me sooo much when I would lose. Yeah, when you have a custom deck worth thousands of dollars in cards vs a starter deck, it is not really worthy of boasting when you win. It is like a pro NFL star playing elementary school kids a game of football, then MOCKING them when they lose. like gimmie a break

I'm always appreciative of when someone takes the time to teach me so that we can still play together in a way that I don't feel excluded

Yeah turns out helping someone out is much satisfying than curbstomping them until they never play with you again.

I don't want a lecture I just wanna play video game.... Usually if I'm playing with against an experienced player I just won't let them pick the game. It's gotta be something we both suck at

Where are these chads to teach to play , I've literally never come across one , and when I do actually ask I get the same exact asshole response 3verytime "git gud" so who are these players who actually teach !? Really doubting Thier existence

@@timothyscott1951 right here my guy ☺️. i taught my homie how to play Tekken, and Now he loves it

If you don't let other people have fun, they will team up on you. Either in real life, or in the game. Not even Shulk's counter can save you from 5 Falcon Kicks at the same time. No amount of skill can stop you from losing a 5 V 1. If you do happen to win the 5 V 1, they will just refuse to let you play outright.

the only thing that has never happened in history is an experienced fighting game player playing with a newbie friend and both parties having fun

@@lobster6736 Hence the first step. The hardest step...

You can also mess around with the different custom options. My younger cousins had a lot of fun playing with everyone giant or having nothing but bombs spawn, no matter who won. Also for the love of God play in Time instead of Stock because nothing is worse than losing quickly and having to wait while other people have fun.

@@yoso378 Yes! FOR REAL! Play on time, especially in a free for all.

lmaooo

Is called 214 sometimes because of the positions on a numpad so if you are doing a quarter circle back medium it’s called 214M

I've never related to a comment more than this

Then when we bring out the jank indie fighter and I start winning they don't want to play anymore smh

i wanted to be good in smash but my brain doesnt know how to do marth's side b in ultimate, so i gave up

@@SSJ3CyLink You press right or left and B at the same time, then keep on pressing B to get more hits.

But smash isn't a fighting game.

@@Redarmy1917 It’s a party fighting game, same problem applies here, get over it

Smash is super easy to get into. Put on items, pick your favourite characters and play. Don't focus on combos or tech, just get a feel for moving around and connecting your hits. Then build on that foundation by learning how to grab, dodge and use your specials. You'll be able to beat your friends in no time.

@@AhmedX8 tell that to online play

this is me with my college roomates, but all three of them were pretty great and I was the only bad one they almost never wanted to play anything else, and two of them intentionally went for me early before fighting each other or the third guy

Wow

HAD a friend

@@daesonhow LOL

Thank you for this

Fighting games with cutscenes in the middle of a match = eww no thanks!

@@Milktube cutscene here means a combo you can't break out of

That's what makes it exciting, you're both on a razor's edge where a tiny lapse can lead to victory or defeat. As bad as it feels to be on the receiving end, capitalizing on an opponent's tiny slip-up feels just as great.

You should be thinking about what to do when the combo ends. What do you think they'll do on wakeup, did they use any meter so now you have meter advantage, what have they done in the past on your wakeup and what beats it, are you in the corner or are you midscreen, and so on. It's like saying "I love waiting for a respawn after I got killed", or "I love sitting behind cover waiting for my health to regenerate". The game isn't over, think about your next move.

Huh? I don’t get the moral of the story. It isn’t a bad suggestion though. MK has the easiest stuff in the world and once you both learn a couple of combos which take literally a hour the game can be very fun. It’s like a trading for one hour vs 100 hours of fun. Easy trade off

I tend to spam the same attack or two when going up against newer players, and tell them how to beat that attack. When they start to win, I add another move, and so on, one at a time.

It’s like they have their own language they expect everyone else to know lol

@@humanbean4037 I don't know. I think "main" is self explanatory enough and the term is not even exclusive to fighting games. Every game that has more than one option has uses "main" ad a term. You main combibation in Mario Kart, you main deck in Yugioh, your main program you draw with, etc, etc. The problem here is if the person didn't even specified which game he was talking about.

@@Magnet_Chaos The concept of having a main thing is common. Pretty much the only context I've heard "I main" in is fighting games and occasionally cart racers. Nobody says "I main Photoshop", they say "I mainly use Photoshop" or "My main program is Photoshop" - unless they picked up the lingo from one of the gaming communities.

@@BonaparteBardithion Last one was a bit joke. Though your later example is what I meant. "My main program is Pothoshop". Point is that the word has enough context clues to figure out what "a main" is.

@@Magnet_Chaos It's easy enough to understand in the right context, but it's definitely more lingo-esque than "Who's your favorite character?".

After getting a cheap copy of Under Night In-Birth, I decided to look up some tips to get slightly better at playing with my favorite guy. I’m so inexperienced with fighting games even most of the “starter guides” contain a huge chunk of vocabulary I don’t know how to interpret…

@@FentonHardyFan don’t worry! A lot of fighting game lingo can be inferred from watching. Takes a while and I’m still learning (for example I just learned what Guard Point is), but you’ll get it eventually. If UN:IB has a tutorial, try that, because even if it doesn’t work well it might teach you the vocab. Of course, sometimes gamers make their own lingo up, but it’s better than nothing. Google also helps a ton

It's like trying to remember what it was like before you could read.

Its a Platform Fighter. So it still qualifies as a Fighting game.

Some people love the delusion more than reality I guess...

@@AsukasButler It's not being delusioned, it's called letting the other person have fun rather than caught up on feeling bad for losing. If you want to spend time with someone in a thing that you're a lot more skilled in, then slowing down or not playing as seriously can make the event more enjoyable for the both of you. Unless you're the type that prioritizes winning over social bonding i guess

@@cameronschyuder9034 You either like competition or you don't. If you don't want to compete, why play a competitive game?

@@AsukasButler Because you want to spend time with your friends, share something you enjoy, or help them improve with your knowledge? There's a lot of reasons, you need to widen your awareness instead of being willfully oblivious.

There's shooters. MOBAs as well. I suspect its more that not a lot of people have grown up on fighting games compared to shooters and MOBAs.

@@cileavictoria1229 even with mobas its hard to have fun with friends, since mobas are purely pvp focused and things can get heated. plus I find when youre playing with multiple friends you get distracted more, so its easier to mess up and lose

i think a big reason fighting games are so hard to access is that many of them have awful tutorials, and the learning curve which is already steep is exacerbated by this shortcoming. As well, fighting games have a lot of mechanics that don't transfer to other gaming genres. A first person shooter won't require you to learn frame data, when to use certain comboes to carry your opponent to the wall or which one to use for maximum damage, or how to hit confirm. While I think it's gotten a little bit better recently, for a long time the fighting game community seemed to be reluctant to help people who asked the simplest questions, like in tekken, what "back 1+2" means (hold back, and press the left and right punch buttons at the same time), because thats the kind of notation everyone uses when talking about a character's moves. Fighting games are extremely deep but the lack of adequate help outside of getting someone to sit down with you and teach you how to play one like you're learning a new job makes them hard to approach for most people...

To be honest, the MAIN reason fighting games are so inaccessible is because how often you win/lose is determined based on how good other players are. Unlike most games, in a fighting game, you arent fighting the game or computers or some story mode. You're fighting another player. And if they're better than you, youre GOING to lose most likely. It doesnt matter how complicated the game is, how easy or hard the controls are, what insane tech there is. What matters the most is the skill level of the people playing. And if someone is a LOT better than you, theyre going to be extremely oppressive and its going to be hard to even play the game at all if you're constantly getting destroyed and combo'd. This isnt like a racing game which can sometimes be competitive, but even when you're getting destroyed in a racing game, you're at least still like playing the game so its not as bad. But fighting games are really never going to be fun unless your main goal is to get better, and thats where you find your enjoyment. And its ALWAYS going to be hard because the better you get, there is always going to be someone even better who will crush you. Itll never get easier because there is always someone who can beat you out there. But thats why the game is super fun if you love the thrill of a hard challenge and improving, because there is always that next mountain to climb by improving your skills even further. But yea, theyre definitely not like other games. You have to approach fighting games very differently. If you have the wrong mindset going in, then you arent really going to enjoy them. And theyre definitely not a game that everyone will find enjoyment in.

@@everythingsalright1121 I picked up Skullgirls a while ago for the cool aesthetics and because my friends were into it, and the tutorial kinda jumps from "hold down and press punch to do a crouching punch!" to "pull off this extensive input three times in a row" really fast. Add in my friends largely being very familiar with fighting games already and having a general attitude of "you're losing because you suck, do better," and I decided not to keep playing Skullgirls.