@@luciferlucero I eat mostly fruit, but do eat some vegetables. For the last few months I have traveled in Mexico where I have found a much bigger supply of different fruits and much fresher vegetables than I could get in the US. I have eaten fruits I never saw in the US and only had heard of, and some I never had heard of. Even in states like Florida that grow a lot of fruit, grocery stores tend not to carry a lot of them. It took me a very long time to get to this diet. I became an ovo-lacto vegetarian in the mid-1970s. By the later 1970s I gave up the milk and eggs. But I had no guidance on what to eat, so ate lots of pasta, bread, and other such foods. I did this for a long time, including soy products, fake burgers, etc. Finally a little more than 10 years ago I tried a raw diet. I found that with raw foods I preferred fruits to most vegetables. I feel good with this diet. I don't look like a skinny beanpole at about 170 pounds and a little over 6 feet, but have low body fat.
A banana has empathy? Maybe more so the tree. A more reasonable justification is that plants are a renewable source of food. Once you eat an animal, that same animal can’t be relied upon for more food. You can’t plant a chicken carcass and hope for more chickens. In yoga, there’s a tradition of ahimsa, which does not mean non violence, but more so limiting the amount of violence you have upon the world.
@@holzmann-bananas are meant to be food. If you don't eat them, they fall off the tree and rot on the ground. If animals do eat them, they help their seeds spread and sprout. If you kill a lamb, on the other hand, you don't need to theorize whether it feels pain or not as it clearly revolts and tries to escape and live. Its purpose is not to be food, but to be loved and cherished, to folick the fields with the human children who naturally love them so much, and be happy. Killing animals is perverse and backwards and evil, picking and eating fruit is natural and healthy and good.
@@holzmann- Sorry when was a banana a sweet, behavior wise in case you couldn't tell, and empathetic being? A banana isn't a being, it doesn't have the breath of life, or blood.
Noah was a vegetarian too. He brought in the ark food for himself and the family and even for all the animals. There were only one pair of each animal which means that animals did not eat each other in the ark but every animal ate plants. Gen 7, 2.3. was added. Try reading without it. It is so clear.
@@key5t0ne You are thinking!. I bellieve it was animal dna that was collected, not the animals themselves. What would they have eaten if on a boat? where did all the excrement go? too many questions if they were on a boat.
@@key5t0nemy take was that he actually did bring “all the animals” onto the ark that the most high made. But that number was not a species-diluted as what we have now with the fallen state of the human and animal kingdom, and the fallen angel kingdom. Jubilees and other early texts speak to “22 kinds” with kinds meaning more like categories with multiple species within it, but not 8 Billion… it doesn’t give a number. But the takeaway is that it was way less animals than what we know now. Many of the subspecies and genus/phylum/order we have now, developed naturally and unnaturally over the next several thousand years. So to your point, I think maybe it was just “bears”. And then they later developed into grizzly/brown/black/polar So yes, the polar bear that wasn’t yet in the Polar regions, bc it wasn’t yet subjected to migrations that far north (or outer, depending on you’re angle) to adapt over time into what we now classify as polar bear… and this is what modern science is all about doing : inflating and confounding the simple and beautiful into something convoluted.
The scripture that came to mind when I was watching this video is Proverbs 23:20 (the King James version): "Be not among winebibbers, among riotous eaters of flesh...." I became a vegan several years ago when I was doing a lot of fasting to God (according to Isaiah 58 and Luke 2:37). I would also see videos on Facebook, and the animals in the videos had feelings I had never realized. (Incidentally, during this fasting period, I also discovered the names of Yeshua and Yahweh ... sorry - off topic.) More recently, my vegan stance is also based upon the idea that if God created animals and God created people - why would God care any less for his animal creations than he cares for his people creations? Humans do incredibly cruel things to animals not only by eating animals, but in every kind of abuse. I don't believe this was the plan of a loving and kind God. I have suspected that all the bloody sacrifices in scripture were the creation of man - the commandments of man (Isaiah 29:13, Matthew 15:8-9, Mark 7:6). I am what I call a devout Christian, although that's probably not what mainstream Christians might call me (actually, I've been called a heretic). I believe organized Christian religion is way off track (and has been for almost two thousand years). I discovered during my continuous fasting period that people had altered God's word. That didn't weaken my faith. I think it strengthened my faith because having this knowledge explained a lot of the inaccuracies. I thought to myself how naive I was to think that after a few thousand years, no one would alter the word of God to have it say what he/they wanted it to say to achieve power and wealth for himself/themselves. Another powerful reason that I did not turn away from Christianity when I discovered that God's word had been altered is because in the early 1990s, I received the baptism of God's spirit. It was and still is the greatest experience of my life. No one but a spiritual God could have transcended through my whole being during this occurrence. I had a lot of doubts about the spiritual baptism at that time (before it happened to me). I saw the scriptures that pointed to God's pouring out of his spirit (Joel 2:28, Acts 2:16, 17). I saw it was for whomever Yahweh our God calls (Acts 2:39). I just didn't know how it was going to happen. I couldn't understand it with my logical mind. I realize now that there is no logical explanation, and only almighty God can do this. I do believe people fake this experience; but, there are a lot of things that are faked in the name of Christianity. All I know is that it really did happen to me and there is no doubt in my mind. Anyhow, I really enjoy your teachings, Dr. Tabor. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I sincerely appreciate your generosity. Bless you. One more thing - I love the scripture - "They will not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth will be full of the knowledge of Yahweh, as the waters cover the sea" (Isaiah 11:9).
Great testimony of the baptism of the Spirit of God! Walk humbly, do justly, and love mercy. Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. It's the spirit of sacrifice of all a natural man desires (comfort and exciting tastes, sights, sounds, and concepts of using others to obtain pleasures, and enjoy conflict and inflicting pain.) It's a broken heart and a contrite Spirit. Seventh Day Adventist come closest to Dr. Tabor. Loved "Hacksaw Ridge." Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is similar with The Word of Wisdom. "Return to Sparingly" is YT presentation of quotes of their leaders who encouraged a strict following of the health code which is the word of wisdom. Your body temple is merciful and so capable of holding the Spirit of God which is Love!
It's nice to find out there are others like me. I believe the "Christians" who discover this truth are among those who worship God in spirit and truth and sincerely seek truth and find it, they are the meek who will inherit the earth, the few who find the narrow path to life 🙏 If we humble ourselves as children, we inherit the kingdom - children naturally and instinctually love animals and are foretold to lead them in Christ's kingdom. The whole point of salvation is redeeming the earth back to its proper order, where everything is good again, with humans holding righteous dominion - obviously God would favor the people who seek and desire to do that, and for the earth to return to righteous order all who oppose righteousness would have to be kicked off which Jesus is foretold to do.
I became a vegan, for the spiritual reason of kindness, for 11 years. Sadly, I relapsed back into a taste for flesh in this last 2 years. This video has put me firmly back on the path. Thank you so much.
Was vegan 8 years. Was thinking it might have been a bit extreme and concerned about nutrition...did so e digging and ,lotta smoke for the fire.been eating animals for a year, but I think I'm going to be veganish with some eggs..basically what will give me the tricky to find nutrients on pure plants. I also follow a mind of alms based Mendicancy so I take what I'm given, though id prefer plants.
@@tylerwhitney3443from a logical/moral perspective eggs and milk can be sourced ethically! If you had your own supply the actual foods are ethical. It’s just the modern farming methods that cause harm. Started eating eggs also (not milk as haven’t found a good source) and would like to try raw milk also. No one talks about vegetarianism today. It’s either one extreme of veganism or carnivore. Vegetarianism seems like a sensible middle ground
Yes, we have a bible from the 11 th century written in Danish. Jesus says “ Blessed is he whom eats like a dear in the field, for he shall dine at my table” deer eat plants, this verse is no longer in bibles so what else was edited by king James and others. I believe that Jesus follows what God sees as perfect which is the first instruction God gave man and animals, every fruit with seed and every herb as food. It does not seem hard to understand.
I almost didn’t watch this video because the title seemed a bit far-out and not that relevant. But wow, James Tabor wove a very strong case for his theory. Absolutely fascinating!!
If you opened your mind to the idea that animal life (CREATED by God, and similar to us by His design) has worth. Then the topic of this video is extremely relevant as well. Man fell, God's paradise is not yet again realized on Earth.
@@BroonParker I am a Scholar - you need to smarten up - I suggest you begin to care about the truth instead of regurgitating your programming and indoctrination and mind control.
The Essene Gospel of Peace, The Gospel of the Holy Twelve, The Egyptian Book of The Dead, The Rig Veda, Atlantis Etta und Bible, Quest for the Historical Jesus, Balder und Bible and The Essene Origins of Christianity. One cannot read these books and walk away ignoring the common thread. Christ, the Messiah, the Anointed one. The one who has been smeared. Is fresh, unpasteurized Pomegranate juice. The juice is what has been smeared from the flesh. John the baptist refused to eat the bread because its was baked. The flame kills the life from our food. The burnt offering is the cooked food you offer to your mouth.
Well done! Thank you for this. I became Christian in 2010 and Christ made me vegan in 2013 after a 40 day Daniel Fast. I prayed for perfect health and God have it to me. Im surprised you didn’t mention the Essenes because this is the text God gave me to prove he never ate meat. And Isaiah 65:17-25 does speak of the future which is now! Fruitful blessings
@@vampyresgraveyard3307 not true. The Passover lamb .. Jesus rejected. They ate unleavened bread and wine. Read the Gospel of the Holy 12.. Jesus was a vegetarian. Why the disciples were fishermen I have no idea. Jesus came to end blood sacrifices and bring us closer to God the Father through Jesus’ perfect life obeying the Laws which He is.. Jesus is the Law of Moses. The King James Bible is watered down and changed interpretations throughout. If you don’t believe Paul was an antichrist you’ll have a difficult time grasping of why we aren’t supposed to eat meat.. any meat. Even the animals that man corrupted were meant to eat food from the vines. This is all part of the curse of Satans Little Season which I feel we are in now. God Bless.
The meat eating is an accommodation to carnivores who want permission in a religion that prohibits it. It is an editorial change for an allowance of a prohibition.
Prohibiting all meat for everyone isn't practical. The common people raised animals for milk and eggs. The requires you to occasionally cull the herds/flocks, or you can't feed them all. Very few, if any poor people would have been persuaded to let fresh meat go to waste.
@@robinlillian9471the meek who hunger and thirst for righteousness don't try to make excuses and justifications for evil, but overcome and seek better ways. Ask and ye shall receive. God is good, and desires his entire creation to flourish in happiness and abundance. Notice in Genesis it was decreed "good" while humans and animals were vegan, then sin entered slaughter and sacrifice began and God was continually angry at people. Humans holding righteous dominion is the future, not humans holding into archaic and harmful ways of life for the sake of selfish gluttonous interests. God's people are not of this world, but of that kingdom where there is no harm or destruction. After Jesus gets rid of all the bad people, the entire world will change, solutions to all problems will abound, all life including animals bugs and plants will naturally realign to the original design, all predation will cease.
I recently started on a salad kick and I and my boss immediately noticed the after lunch effects the salad had versus my productivity after eating a meal that consisted mostly of meat.
I remember when I went vegetarian almost 13 years ago, thanks to my spiritual Master who said in one of his lecture that Jesus didn't eat meat, I decided to investigate the Bible and early christians history about vegetarianism, and I noticed almost all the elements noticed. That is when I discovered the Ebionites, the primal diet that God gave to mankind, the refusal of Daniel and his friends to eat meat, the possible parallel between how it was at the beginning concerning mariage and how it should be concerning diet etc. And I came to this very same conclusion of religious idealism in diet. I also noticed that in Judaism and Islam there are rituals done before slaughtering animal (Kosher in Judaism and Hallal in Islam), but in christianity there is none. I then concluded that one such ritual doesn't exist probably because meat consumption was not intended in early christianism. I think that this is one the important aspects of Jesus mission that has been very sadly lost to us.
Look up the Cathars and Essenes , Cathar comes from the greek word katharos which means pure, clean , so its a pureblood nutrition devoid of animal flesh and blood .
Daniel and his friends were vegans and ate a Genesis 1 diet and most people due to the hebrew word being used think they primarily ate legumes and water. isaiah talks about those who kill an ox or a lamb are like those who kill men, Jesus himself compares himself to a lamb that is slaughtered etc.
Am a fan of Tabor's books and lectures. He is spot on about many things including the vegetarianism of John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Jesus Movement. This is not new information, so why do most not know about it? Most teachers, professors, leader types, etc... in Christian realms eat meat, and so are not inclined to care about this area of research. Often debates on vegetarianism in Christianity come down to what the debaters had for lunch, lol. Only those who are already vegetarians or vegans seem to be the ones to care about veg passages in the Book of Genesis, Old Syriac Gospels, Gospel of the Hebrews, Ebionites, apocryphal texts, church fathers and saints. And no, the apostles are not fisherman, still in their early 20's frozen in time or operating a fish market in the Galilee, lol. If one explores the various Acts of the Apostles, Acts of Thomas, Clementine Homilies, etc..., one will find references to most all of them becoming vegetarians. “John never ate meat.” “James, the brother of the Lord, lived on seeds and plants and touched neither meat nor wine.” The Apostle Thomas: “He continually fasts and prays, and abstaining from the eating of flesh…” “…The Apostle Matthew partook of seeds, and nuts, hard-shelled fruits, and vegetables, without flesh.” Peter said, “I live on olives and bread, to which I rarely only add vegetables…” “The unnatural eating of flesh meats is as polluting as the heathen worship of devils…” (Peter, Clementine Homilies) For sure, from the time of Paul, who was arguing with veg Christians, to the time of Saint Jerome, creator of the Latin Vulgate, clearly some in Christianity were committed to ethical vegetarianism as being part of the "Yoke of the Lord" (expression found in the Didache). St. Jerome: “The consumption of animal flesh was unknown up until the great flood. But since the great flood, we have had animal flesh stuffed into our mouths. Jesus, the Christ, who appeared when the time was fulfilled, again joined the end to the beginning, so that we are now no longer allowed to eat animal flesh.” (pro-vegetarian early church father Hieronymus [St. Jerome] who apparently was influenced by Ebionite views) “The steam of meat meals darkens the spirit. One can hardly have virtue if one enjoys meat meals and feasts. In the earthly paradise [Eden], no one sacrificed animals, and no one ate meat.” (Saint Basil the Great)
That's a quite interesting passage, I always thought that, Christians are basically non vegetarians, just like Muslim. Now, Dr. Tabor becomes a lighthouse in the dark seas of foolishness.
Any "food" is simply concentrated sunlight. The commercial industries owned by satanists & luciferians make an effort to ensure they have dense, low energy food on their shelves. It's a consciousness war. Don't many Chinese and Tibetan monks live off of sunlight (or a very stringent diet)? That's what I've read. Some are alive at 250+ years on water and sun, others on nothing. They've disciplined and stilled the mind.
Actually, the biblical record is very clear, Jesus ate both fish and lamb, as well as the priests, and God separated clean and unclean meats, therefore showing there is a difference. So no, he nor any of the prophets or other notable biblical characters were vegetarians, as that would have been out of character with their culture, and we have no indication to prove otherwise. So while a plant-based diet is definitely more healthy for you, the title of this video is misleading.
@@bldlightpainting Actually, Paul and Paul allied writings were OK with meat and even eating meat sacrificed to pagan idols, as we already know. The subject that should be of interest to those into learning is the diet of Jesus and those directly affiliated with him (Jerusalem, James the Just, other apostles). The title of the video and contents therein are spot on. Some might even view Jesus as more authoritative than Paul. :) As interesting as Paul and his attempt to recruit Romans might be, I find it far more interesting to catch glimpses of Jesus, the Kingdom of Heaven that he advocated, and that somewhat marginalized history of the original group (Jesus Movement, Christianity-Before-Paul.
In Jesus cooked fish too. Why would he give it to others if he would eat it himself? So, I'm thinking he at least ate lamb and fish, maybe not that often but he did eat it.
Jesus’ Last Supper, can you find the verse describing the lamb as it isn’t there. Jesus was of the Essenes, they also celebrated Passover one day earlier than the Pharisees, the Scribes, the Pharisees and the Sadducees. If you look at the Syriac Bible, it is in Aramaic, the common language which Jesus spoke as well as Hebrew and Greek, the feeding of the 5,000 does not include fish but a condiment for bread called “fish weed”. So is the same thing at work when Jesus is said to eat broiled fish or He did that to prove that His body was indeed made of flesh. Jesus came to fulfill all righteousness and He would have fulfilled the original design as He was the Creator, if you read John 1. Mankind has moved from being caretakers of the Earth and the animals, to be exploiters of both. The Lambs which were slaughtered at Passover looked forward to the True Lamb of God. He told people that they needed to eat His flesh and that His blood was true drink. No, we do not actually eat Him, but if we digest His Word, it was what He was getting at. It is better to live by the Perfect Will of God than a compromise allowed for the fact that not much was growing at first when Noah and his family came off the ark. Have you not read that when the Lord returns and He reigns as King, the lion will lie down with the lamb and both shall eat straw. I was crippled in a wheelchair with Arthritis and I prayed and asked God what I was doing wrong, He answered me in my mind “Have you not read Genesis 1”. I had read Genesis 1 many times but now it hit me, to eat the diet of Genesis would heal me. It did. I am now fully vegan. And it is a blessing. I do not have to take prescription medications at all, no high blood pressure, not diabetes type II, no high cholesterol, no liver disease or kidney disease, no longer have asthma or eczema. And I will be 70 in 3 months. My husband is also vegan. He waited and did not join what I was eating and we found out he had prostate cancer and it was too far along to treat with diet so he had to have surgery. He survived. Now there were 3 other men who also retired from where he worked who also had prostate cancer, they had chemo and radiation and all died within 3 months. My husband is HEALTHY. Tell me what blessing it is to have cancer. I watched my mother and mother-in-law and my only sister, all die of breast cancer. And I do not have cancer either. Our food is actually delicious. Yes, many who are non-Christians have become vegan as the love how ethical it is. But should not Christians not also understand this the more-so? You have no idea how many people are surviving cancers or have them reverse from the plant-based diet. My father died of Alzheimer’s and he was already sick with it at my age, 69. The greatest pleasure for the Christian is holiness and fellowship with God. Can you truly imagine Jesus running a slaughter house? I never thought about it when I ate meat at all, we learn not to see the horror we cause and the pain. We just expect all the health problems eating meat causes is “normal”. I’ve been vegan 10 years, in all that time, I’ve had the flu once, and one cold whereas before the diet change, I had one cold after another in the winter time. I also had a broken ankle after menopause which typically will not heal. But I eat kale and I do not have brittle bone. Does your diet give you such benefits? I love animals, I no longer mean, that I love how they taste! I love to see videos of the animals I used to eat in animal rescues playing and being happy. I never even before when I ate meat would have killed an animal but I paid others to do it for me. I have repented of that. When both Jesus and John the Baptist came teaching, both cried out “Repent for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand.” Repentance is part of being a Christian. Can you prove that the diseases I recovered from or have not gotten are just complete coincidences? Others who eat as I do have had the same health benefits. So it is a direct cause and effect. Do you actually think that being fat and sick is a benefit? Look around, most people are overweight and many are obese? Is this a proof that Christians live in repentance or indulgence? You tell me, which is better?
@@courag1 Everyone knew that lamb was part of the Passover dinner, so why mention the obvious. 1. Humans ARE animals. 2. All living creatures will die, and the predator/prey relationship is central to Earth's ecology. 3. I don't believe what you say about not being sick. Many vegans have all sorts of diseases. People who are part of cults lie all the time.
Have to say I don’t see the evidence. The levitical priest and his family eat meat from the offerings prescribed in the law. The Passover is a command to Jews from the law. Jesus said unless you eat my body and drink my blood John 6:54 you shall not enter haven. A hyperbolic statement from the Passover covering by blood applied to the door post and lintel for sure. Exodus 12:7-14 . Jesus was the perfect sacrifice. Lamb sacrifice from the foundation of the world. Hebrews 10:12 and Revelation 13:8 so Jesus did not preach vegetarianism and the law came 400 years after Abraham who also sacrificed and eat meat. The law allowed Jews to eat clean meat so to state Jesus didn’t eat meat is at best anecdote and an argument from echoing silence. Not to mention God provided quail “ more than could consume because of their complaining or grumbling. So In doing that are you saying God violated his character by giving them meat? Doesn’t logically follow that he would say don’t eat meat because it’s a sin and then for God to tell them to sin. Poor expositions. Trying to fit a narrative into Gods word is an endless game at best.
I understand people are attracted to vegetarianism but what many vegetarians are coming from a city dwelling food from.farming assumption. A desert normad, a Hunter Gather society i.e the San People and an Canadian Inuit who live in an icy environment non of those people can live on a vegetarian diet without great difficulty. Christianity is for all tribes and people around the world and in some parts eating meat is a necessity.
The Nasareans (Essenes) were an ancient, Enochian Jewish sect living in Judaea between the second century BC and the first century AD, who were strict vegetarians. The Essenes ate a simple diet of fresh fruit, vegetables, barley, wheat, almonds, carob beans, milk and wild honey - which they claimed would keep you healthy and lengthen your life. **"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: the virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right." - Isaiah 7:14-16** Essenes were forbidden from swearing oaths and from sacrificing animals. They controlled their tempers and served as channels of peace, carrying weapons only for protection against robbers. **"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one." - Matthew 5:33-37** The Essenes chose not to possess slaves but instead, served each other and, as a result of communal ownership, did not engage in trading. **"If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you." - Matthew 5:41-42** The Essenes had various rituals such as communion, water rituals such as baptism and towards the end of the 3 year initiation period they would spend 40 days in the wilderness. **"Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by (a) the devil. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry." - Matthew 4:1-3** In Essene communities, divorce was forbidden. Essenes had some important creeds, here are their 2 main creeds; 1, seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness. 2, lay up not for yourself treasures on earth but lay up for yourself treasures in heaven. **"Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." - Matthew 6:31-33** **" Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." - Matthew 6:19-21** During Passover Essene communities didn't eat lamb, they consumed bread and wine. The absence of lamb and the presence of bread and wine at the Passover supper indicates that Jesus and most of his followers were highly likely Essenes. Jesus Is the lamb. ***And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. - Matthew 26:26-28*** Multiple sources (including Josephus) state that; Jesus' brother James was not only vegetarian but "RAISED as a vegetarian", indicating that his family were ALL likely members of the Essenes and/or vegetarians. According to John; Jesus was sacrificed alongside the lambs during preparation for Passover. However! Jesus and his followers had already celebrated Passover 2 days prior. **It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. “Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews. But they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!” “Shall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked. “We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered." - John 19:14-16** This begins to make sense when we learn that the Essenes celebrated Passover a few days before their contemporaries as they followed a slightly different calendar. Furthermore, The Essenes always celebrated Passover on a Wednesday, which would have been the exact day Jesus was arrested after the Passover supper. The evidence is fairly overwhelming. Jesus, during his earthly ministry was most likely, an Essene. **He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. - John 1:11** Much love. Jesus Is King of Kings, Lord of Lords 👑
There is a proof: in the ancient christian catacomb of Domitilla in Rome, Jesus is represented combined with Orpheus (half Jesus-half Orpheus) - hence the early Christians were familiar with the Orphic tradition and Pythagoras, from there they got the 153 fishes and the Vesica Piscis, the measure of the fish, which has a purely symbolical meaning! Both Orpheus and Pythagoras were Vegetarians - and hence Jesus too!
Let everything that has breath praise the Lord… Taking the life of any animal is completely against the teachings of “Jesus” plus he was an Essene and they were vegetarian.
And what about Jesus eating fish? Btw God himself opened the way for slaughtering animals by the same Genesis chapter He was the first to provide with leather cloths for Adam and Eva cause all changed after the first sin.
Yes. From 900ish years to 120 years. Not many people catch that correlation between God giving permission to eat meat after the flood and God reducing life span at the same time. God said he was reducing the lifespan to 120 years because of man's wickedness...he just didn't explain his prescription for doing it. Gotta read between the lines sometimes.
This video is just a case of projecting a vegetarian personal belief on Jesus even though there is no evidence to the contrary. Jesus says nothing that would change or challenge the dominant meat-eating practices of the Old Testament. In Luke 24:41-43, Jesus ate fish. Jesus also served fish to His followers (Matthew 14), and He caused the fishermen’s nets to be filled on two different occasions (Luke 5 and John 21). The purpose of catching the fish was to sell them so they could be eaten. Jesus also cooked fish for His disciples (John 21:9). Why didnt Jesus tell Peter off for being a Fisherman a job involving eating meat? Jesus also ate meat and Fish in Luke and Matthew before the resurrection so this video argument its a made up part of the resurrection is rubbish. There nothing wrong with being vegetarian and people shouldn't project that onto Jesus when there's no evidence
@@BroonParker What James Tabor also doesnt consider that in Jesus's Parable of the Prodigal Son when the Son comes back the Father orders his servants to kill a fatten calf to celebrate. If Jesus was vegetation why would he protray the Father eating meat as part of a postive celebration. He also misses out the fact that when 2 Angels came to visit Abraham, Abraham serves the Angels Beef and the Angels ate the beef.Surely Abraham would serve holy Angels the best he had. I understand people are attracted to vegetarianism but what many vegetarians are coming from a city dwelling food source from farming assumption. A desert normad, a Hunter Gather society i.e the San People and an Canadian Inuit who live in an icy environment non of those people can live on a Plant only vegetarian diet without great difficulty. Veganism would be impossible. Christianity is for all tribes and people around the world and in some parts eating meat is a necessity.
@X23Ninja As I understand it, the inuit diet was dominated by fat /blubber for highly practical reasons but no doubt this diet and by implication the Inuit themselves might be condemned for this lack of plants in an environment where there are none. Crazy! But you make sound points ee scripture as well. It's slmost as if Jesus fails to be good enough if he doesn't meet the dietary regs. There's so much in these comments about a kind of spiritual one-upmanship of which vegetarian and vegan diets are a particular aspect. I found the video exasperating and really could not finish it , but the comments were getting me down as well. On dietary restrictions like this, for me, it comes down to Matthew 15 v 10-20, and not some imagined but absent Essene gospel. Thanks for your comments - they are on the money. I must say that I dislike the mythvision approach generally, but it is this sort of video in particular that also makes me ever more wary of Tabor's other work. There is some useful even challenging material, but he seems to play to the gallery far too readily just like any other RU-vid influencer. Thanks again - and I'm off to consider how the parable might have been had they killed the fatted turnip rather than the poor fatted calf.
The Isaiah 56 is clear a put in, cause they forgot to delete the stuff right efter for it to make seense in Isaiah 66.3 3He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. Sadly they did renemer to chance it a bit in the danish version where it says you offer me and ox but slay a man. But I can read eglish polish and Danish and felt someting of in the sprit reading it and fund out ofcose the Danish bible is just full of more "mistakes" then others. They also have taken out that animals have a soul too in the danish bibles. But God put on my heart to studie this too, and I found an old bible from the 1905 ang guess what. The just 120 year older bible has the soul words in it when spoken of animals, and even Isaiah 66.3 is as the english ones. So there new updateted bibles, offen just are more lies eeded in the word. May I ask what you think about spicifically John 21:1-14? its wird Jesus ask them for meat/fish but then they come out and he already has fish allready for them? a lot about it dosent make sence to me.. and have you heard and what do you think of the fish might have been the word for seaweed in acient greak theory? :) would love to see you talk more about the fishyness in the bible. So meny christians use against vegan christians today. They really cant accept fish diserve mercy too. But funny in the Essen texys Jesus acually speack alot agains meat eating and there is no fish eting there. but this text they dont accpt offen eather. Shalom
Dear friends, I urge you to give veganism / vegetarianism a try. Its God's intended diet for us! You'll feel better and healthier. It's not sinful to refrain from eating meat. There are no downside to being a vegetarian. You'll be showing sympathy and mercy to God's other creations. God gave us dominion over animals to look after them not eat them. God bless us all!
I could never see how the father of Jesus would like animal sacrifice or the killing of his creatures for food (unless it was a matter of life and death), and I can see that message embedded into the bible. Yet none of my Christian friends see it.
Amen to that. If you read the Bible carefully God didn’t say he wanted animal sacrifices, only made concessions to the Israelites, that ‘ IF they bring sacrifices then this is what should done’….. as Dr Tabor points out all the other cultures back then were doing blood sacrifices so the Israelites thought that’s how to worship.
That's because they are indoctrinated. You can't teach them anything, they are scared to not follow their pastor. Jesus had one thing right, his followers are sheep
@@ellenhomeister7374 There was human sacrifice both from where Abraham came, UR, and the Phoenicians who were in modern Lebanon and modern Gaza Strip. Phoenicians in Carthage were still practicing human sacrifice in 146BC and is not just well written about by the Romans but lots of archeology evidence. So the Abraham story of Isaac, is a story of reform against human sacrifice. So I think there were different degrees as to how this reform was practiced. Substituting an animal or no animals whatsoever. A similar Reform in Greece happened with Pythagoras who was half Phoenician who was said to have been taught by Jews.
Because "God" is a violent war and thunder god. If this God commands its people to k1ll others for land, and he also kills the firstborns of egyptians, is not like he would care about animals, altrough funny enough the old testament has laws about animals.
I give you every seed bearing plant and every tree that has seed bearing fruit on it to be your food. How interesting in light of the fact that you'd be hard pressed to find a grape containing a seed in the United States today, and that "they" are modifying so many fruits to remove them.
@@VegangelistenNat that is talking about sacrifices, Deuteronomy 12:15 debunked it you can kill and eat your animals wherever you live because it's not a sacrifice
@@vampyresgraveyard3307this is Satan's world, where doing whatever you want is the whole of the law. Go ahead and be unrighteous and wicked if that is your hearts' desire. But the meek who hunger and thirst for righteousness will be justified in the end, and inherit the earth. You don't need a book of words to tell you what is right and wrong, especially one with lying words from a wicked priesthood. We all know the truth in our hearts, and it is there we hear God's voice. Some listen and follow and obey and appreciate when texts verify what the spirit already revealed, some use dead text to justify their evil inclinations.
But what about the story of Kain and Abel which says that god preferred the sacrifice of Abel the sheperd - which I assume was meat? And what about the story in which Abraham is commanded by god to sacrifice his son and then instead was supposed to sacrifice an animal instead? Wouldn't have Jesus known these stories? Its not about what the people want, but what god appreciates in the first story and even commands in the second one.
Genesis 9:3Everything that lives and moves will be food for you; just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you all things. 4But you must not eat meat with its lifeblood still in it.
He already went over that. What is more important… what God permits in this fallen world, due to the hardness of our hearts… Or God's PERFECT will, as clearly stated in Genesis 1:29-30 and the prophetic scriptures about the future restored world? God's perfect will is peace and harmony among all creation....not bloodshed, violence, selfishness and gluttony.
"Religion is all about the way we live, and the way to live is to do good." Emanuel Swedenborg 1688-1772 I think you are leading a good life and don't harbor evil intentions for the world or its occupants. You would like Swedenborg's ideas expressed by Curtis Childs at the RU-vid channel Off the Left Eye. I think the cute song he wrote "Religion means nothing if you got it but you're still a jerk"❤
@@rachelgoodkind6545 no it's not, Passover is required to eat meat and Jesus didn't come to abolish the mosaic law which Passover is part of the mosaic law.
@@vampyresgraveyard3307 It is NOT required, but was said so by pagan scribes who supported killing animals for food. Page scribes worked for emporer Constantine who changed the original bible. Early Jewish Christians and Essenes (which Theshua was) were vegetarians, they did not eat the dead. You believe what you want, but if you believe everything the bible says you are being mislead. Experts have found thousands of bible references where the dates, names, places do not add up--too many contradictions. This is because sooo many pagan scribes kept changing things to suit their belief system. The Cathars, slaughtered by the Roman church, believed the new testament but not the old, they believed the "god" in it was Satan.
Thank you for sharing. Before you even stated your words I have always believed that Yshua, his family, and 12 disciples did not eat cadavers. It just makes total sense for them and all humanity. We have lived in a violent world because we have consumed a violent diet. Our intended food was always only plants. This from a whole food vegan for over 25 years. Peace.
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@@theguyver4934 I don't where you get this assumption that the things you listed were very late misinterpretations when it seems your just listing things you personally dont like, such as claiming atonement is a very late misinterpretation. You clearly havent sat down and read the Bible all the way through. Leviticus 17:11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life I understand you don't like blood sacrifice but it's in the Torah given as a type of atonement and I don't think you can get a earlier source then Leviticus🤨 You can't take your vegetation assumptions and personal probelm with blood atonement and try to delete passages in the Bible to meet your beliefs. Apart from James there is NO evidence any of the disciples were vegetation & the earliest stories indicate Peter was indeed a fisherman. God himself in Exodus ordered the children of Israel to eat Lamb in order to give them the energy they needed to leave egyput in the Exodus. As for original.Sin unless you want to dismiss all of Paul letters which whether you like it or not are the earliest sources of Christianity he taught Original Sin when he said Death and Sin came through 1 Man Adam. something isn't true just because you don't like it.Find another religion
@@X23Ninja The Nasareans (Essenes) were an ancient, Jewish sect living in Judaea between the second century BC and the first century AD, who were strict vegetarians. The Essenes recommended eating a simple diet of fresh fruit, vegetables, barley, wheat, almonds, milk and honey - which they claimed would keep you healthy and lengthen your life. During Passover Essene communities didn't eat lamb, they consumed bread and wine. The absence of lamb and the presence of bread and wine at the Passover supper indicates that Jesus and most of his followers were highly likely Essenes. Jesus Is the lamb 🐑 ***And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. - Matthew 26:26-28*** Multiple sources state that; Jesus' brother James was "RAISED as a vegetarian", indicating that his family were ALL likely members of the Essenes. According to John; Jesus was sacrificed alongside the lambs during preparation for Passover. However! Jesus and his followers had already celebrated Passover 2 days prior. This begins to make sense when we learn that the Essenes celebrated Passover a few days before their contemporaries as they followed a slightly different calendar. Furthermore, The Essenes always celebrated Passover on a Wednesday, which would have been the day Jesus was captured. The evidence is fairly overwhelming. Jesus, during his earthly ministry was most likely, an Essene. **He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. - John 1:11** Much love 💕 Jesus Is Lord 👑
@@X23Ninja The Nasareans (Essenes) were an ancient, Jewish sect living in Judaea between the second century BC and the first century AD, who were strict vegetarians. The Essenes recommended eating a simple diet of fresh fruit, vegetables, barley, wheat, almonds, milk and honey - which they claimed would keep you healthy and lengthen your life. During Passover Essene communities didn't eat lamb, they consumed bread and wine. The absence of lamb and the presence of bread and wine at the Passover supper indicates that Jesus and most of his followers were highly likely Essenes. Jesus Is the lamb 🐑 ***And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. - Matthew 26:26-28*** Multiple sources state that; Jesus' brother James was not only vegetarian but "RAISED as a vegetarian", indicating that his family were ALL likely members of the Essenes and/or vegetarians. According to John; Jesus was sacrificed alongside the lambs during preparation for Passover. However! Jesus and his followers had already celebrated Passover 2 days prior 😯 This begins to make sense when we learn that the Essenes celebrated Passover a few days before their contemporaries as they followed a slightly different calendar. Furthermore, The Essenes always celebrated Passover on a Wednesday, which would have been the exact day Jesus was arrested after the Passover supper. The evidence is fairly overwhelming. Jesus, during his earthly ministry was most likely, an Essene. **He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. - John 1:11** Much love 💕 Jesus Is Lord 👑
You do not know...sacred bread was in the shape of a fish. Baked bread would have been referred to as 'broiled", and served with honey. Fish does not go with honey. Much in the bible was left out, and much was mistranslated and altered.
Exactly. He ate fish. He would have followed the Leviticus laws of clean and unclean forbidden food laws which included animals. Term vegan invented in 1940s Js
@@Indigo309 Early vegetarians were called Pythagoreans. Yeshua, the LAMB of god and prince of peace, did not eat the dead. He was an Essene as his whole family also was. He was crucified one week after he freed animals in the Temple of Jerusalem, where they were being sold for SACRIFICE. He was an original animal rights activist.
@@rachelgoodkind6545 slaughter animals for food isn't sacrifice the bible says or teachers the different between a sacrifice and slaughter for food, sacrifice and slaughter for food isn't the same.
@@vampyresgraveyard3307 Humans ate sacrificed animals, and also ate slaughtered animals. It is essentially the same. God has no interest in the blood of bulls or lambs or animal slaughter/sacrifices. Imagine, killing Gods' children and thinking God is pleased...Different words as excuses. but they are both doing the same thing, taking the life of an animal that does not want to die. Please watch the documentary "dominion".
Is not HaShem the God of all? What about those who before the Agricultural Revolution hunted for their living? This is clearly an agricultural command to eat if the plant world and not of nature pristine. Agriculture hasn’t necessarily been a good thing for humans. Besides, we have canines, and mine are pointed too!
🚫Flesh Eating and burnt ❤️ This really deep deception!!! Going through our cannon there are several verses that ABA NEVER wanted any blood sacrifices!!! This is very understandable if we go back to The Garden of Eden and OUR CREATOR’S original intent for man! Our food was vegetation. THE FATHER is The CREATOR of life!!! How could HE take pleasure in burning of any flesh ???!!! Supporting verses: Psalm 50: 7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I am God, even thy God. 8 I will not reprove thee for thy sacrifices or thy burnt offerings, to have been continually before me. 9 I will take no bullock out of thy house, nor he goats out of thy folds. 10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. 11 I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine. 12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof. 13 Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats? 14 Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High: 15 And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me. 16 But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? 17 Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee. Jeremaiah 7: 21 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh. 22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: 23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. 24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward. 25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them: 26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. Isaiah 1: 10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. 11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. 12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? 13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. 15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. Isaiah 66: 1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. 3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. 4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Food Was Bread: Nehemiah 9:15 And (a)gavest them bread from heaven for their hunger, and (b) broughtest forth water for them out of the rock for their thirst, and promisedst them that they (c)should go in to possess the land which thou hadst sworn to give them. Cross References: a. Numbers 14:30 Exodus 16:14,15 John 6:31 b. Exodus 17:6 Numbers 20:9-13 c. Deu 1:8
Those that lusted after flesh ate quail and died. Num 11:19 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days; Num 11:20 But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome unto you: because that ye have despised YHWH which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt? Num 11:32 And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp. Num 11:33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of YHWH was kindled against the people, and YHWH smote the people with a very great plague. Num 11:34 And he called the name of that place Kibroth-hattaavah: because there they buried the people that lusted.
Contrary to the video title picture, he sure as hell didn't eat tomatoes! Tomatoes are a New World fruit that was unknown outside of the western hemisphere before the early 1500's C.E.
Are you sure it was animal meat versus GOD telling; Just eat my WILL to Noah. Have you discovered any text where Noah is stating the preparation of animal meat to consume because if not then that's like confirmation you know. Noah afterall did get drunk from the grapes he farmed after the flood in a cave in distress. Which you know does seem to parallel with GOD asking Cain of his hurt for his offering. To drink in excess and he was discovered naked by his son. Meat (Greek/Hebrew) means Will of GOD Jesus spoke; I have a meat you know not of and You shall eat of my flesh. First born son sacrifice like first fruits tithe/ offerings. Oh wow, I obtained a revelation of Genesis and the eating of the fruit Adam/Eve was not of flesh and covered themselves in leaves then GOD covers them in animal skin and that is a skin covenant covering. Researching "skin" as animal is not just the definition we think it is as well. So Christ Jesus eats the fish and yes like you said he was not of human animal skin and specifically why Adam was told to name the animals. Thank you for sharing because I got more clarity and understanding. Amen you were allowed; But there shall be an accounting for every single blood shed for the breath of life and that is written. Remember how Jesus rebuked the Pharasees in tithing 10% of herbs. Our herbs have spiritual definitions for centuries back to the Beginning just as the animals and the names of Adam and Eve...... Peter is faith etc. It depends on what our GOD is teaching that determines the meaning of the word and the Lord is a GOD of Spirit and we are to worship him in Spirit. The Bible is not taught in the spiritual meanings or told to actually study , but catch the teachings in the spirit. But the problem with that is during Christ Jesus time there were certain people who did and they were mostly Prophets, the chosen till Jesus. Remember how he told them; I am the manna. I'm like 😊🙏😇 Blessings
A sad case of personal ideology informing biblical understanding. In 10 years you will be doing a similar podcast on the scriptural case for bestiality. Scripture abuse is an ugly thing.
Not sure that using the example of comparing David Koresh's response with God's response does anything for your case. What a cult leader says is not instructive for me.
The Clementine Homilies are based on the teachings of Peter. I read it years ago. I must re read it but anyone who wanted to be a disciple of Peter had to abstain from meat and Peter wouldn't sit with someone eating meat as he said it was the food of devils... it's a really great read. I know the Gospel of the Holy Twelve but I'm not familiar with the Hebrew Gospel...
People who kept animals for eggs and milk, eventually ate some of the animals. For example, flocks and herds had to be culled occasionally, or there would be too many to feed. No one let fresh meat go to waste.
I think Tabor is allowing his personal beliefs to affect his interpretation and source selection too much. So many people do the same so its not like he is horrible for this, but it reduces the value of this analysis.
Yeah, Micah 6:6-8, the verses that should end and supersede all other verses. In my opinion these passages of scripture are ones you can live by and be secure in all your ethics and integrity in living.
Not that your assertion has so much to do with the point of this video, but I have known several people who have had to mitigate their veganism because of the health issues created by their diet. Of course I realise that this is merely anecdotal evidence based on my experience but then, I see no credible source for your 84%.
Well it’s a good thing that being vegetarian is different from vegan. Plant based does not mean 100% plants, it means one bases the majority of their diet with plant food.
I think Jeremiah is referring to the PHARISEES with his use of the term "PaRiSHiM"; which is ANACHRONISTIC because the Pharisee sect didn't come into Judaic culture until AFTER the Babylonian/Chaldean Captivity during the PERSIAN Imperial period! 🤔
What IF Jeremiah's reference to the "LYING pen of the scribe has made it a LIE" refers NOT to the original Levitical Code of the "MITZVAH"/Law EMBEDDED IN the Torah; BUT to the narrative STORY traditions OF the TORAH itself "woven around" it??!! It is MY theory, and I think that of liberal Israeli scholars such as Irving Finkelstein, that the "Mosaic" Levitical Code is actually "JOSIAHAN", dating from the reign of King Josiah when the Book of the Law was allegedly "rediscovered" in the 🏦 after his "reform" of "Judaism" from the corruption of "Paganism" by his father King Manassah, and that the Pentateuchical Torah narratives are by priestly EZRAN scribes of the Persian Imperial period when they also REVISED the "divine" Levitical Law into that of the "Deuteronomic Code". 🧐
IF John the Baptist didn't eat 🍖 (OTHER than locusts), then WHERE did he get the ANIMAL SKINS that he WORE for CLOTHING?? He simply KILLED and SKINNED the animal and left its flesh to ROT or be EATEN by OTHER animals?! 🧐 THAT'S like the issue of WHAT did Yahwah DO to get the ANIMAL SKINS HE used to clothe Adam and Eve when they realized they were naked?? God became the FIRST butcher?! 🤔
I have to CORRECT the professor on a trivial point: the pure 🥈 coins traded for in the 🏦 were TYRIAN shekels (coins of the Phoenician/ Palestinian city of TYRE); NOT "Tyrehennian"/ITALIANUS shekels of "Tyrehennia", the ancient Greek name for ITALY. 🧐🤨
WHY I think Jesus WASN'T a vegetarian is because of the several "Gospel" MISquotes of Pro. Tabor: Jesus stated that "John the Baptizer came neither eating (🍖) nor drinking (🍷)..... " common staples of the Judish diet THEN and NOW, "but the Son of Man came EATING AND DRINKING...." James MUST have drank 🍷 because HE PARTOOK of the 🍷 at the "Last Supper" that Jesus declared was his "🩸"! IF he was a "teetotaler" he WOULDN'T have done that! Finally, the "Last Supper" is called just THAT because of Jesus' statement in the "Gospel of John" that "I will NOT EAT NOR DRINK this PASSOVER (referring to the 🐑 🍖 and the 🍷 of the 🍇) UNTIL I EAT AND DRINK IT ANEW with you in the Kingdom of Heaven" WHERE, according to the "Apocalypse of John" HE would BE the slain, bloody 🐑 of which ALL the "SAVED"/Christians would partake in His sacrificial Heavenly Triumph. I DON'T see any way you could argue Jesus was a "vegetarian". He WASN'T even about KOSHER meats because he declared there were NO "UNclean" foods; so WHY would 🍖 period be OFF the list?? And the quote Tabor uses from Zachariah 14:21 DOESN'T help his case: it CLEARLY states "....that all WHO SACRIFICE may come and take of them (the pots) and BOIL THE 🍖 OF THE SACRIFICE in them." I might ALSO add that the "Noachide Dispensation" (of eating 🍖) was actually NOT new. If people WEREN'T killing animals and eating their 🍖, then WHY did Yahwah "accept" Abel's SACRIFICE of a SLAUGHTERED 🐑 while REJECTING Cain's VEGETARIAN offering of PLANT foods?? Clearly HE preferred FLOCKS to CROPS!! 😁
And of course, I might ALSO add that it was THIS REJECTION by YAHWAH that stirred the "CANAH"/JEALOUSY in CAYN which incited him to KILL HIS BROTHER and become the FIRST human MURDERER!! IF, as Jesus said, HOW MUCH MORE important is a Man than a 🐑, WHICH is it WORSE to KILL?? YET......., YAHWAH CANAH even TEMPTED...... uuhhheehhhh...... "TESTED", Abraham to do just THAT! 🤨😁
Essene Gospel of Peace book 1, it’s very clear what Jesus ate. He was vegetarian and told people they could have the milk of the ewe (female sheep). The latter was offered as a means to prevent starvation and death through winter months where they might run out of dried fruit. The Essenes were expert in drip irrigation and growing fruit and vegetables. Even the bread they ate was warmed by the sun and not fully cooked. Some say fish was added with the translation from Hebrew to Greek to speak to the culture of the time because it’s there in Matthew but then we only hear of bread at other times.
@@domenikvalci7743 false. Jesus ate lamb. Jesus was crucified because so all could be saved only the sacrifice of jesus can ones sins to be forgiven. Nobody comes to the father except through jesus christ jesus didn't have to sacrifice him self he did it out of love.
It says in the Bible that Jesus cooked Fish and ate with his disciples..so He was at least pescatarian. But Isrealites commonly ate lamb..so I doubt it. Jesus also multiplied the fish at the Sermon on the Mount. What is wrong with animal products? Eggs..milk..cheese. They are not eating an animal.
@@kathleenwharton2139 Jesus would not kill and eat any living creature just use your common sense living plants we are to eat, read The Essene Gospel of Peace!
@@healthyone100 Luke 24:42-43 “They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence.” Or you could believe that the Bible is not God-breathe, in which case you aren’t a Christian.
Hello - The fact that Jesus was vegetarian is confirmed by Mother Mary in My Son (part of the sextology of volumes in the Winds of Truth series). He also did not touch fermented grape-juice, our wine, since in those days their so-called `wine' was pure grape-juice, which was also present at the Last Supper, and upon which they largely subsisted. Books are available from the WOT Trust. Blessings - RevDrD/Ministry
