Why is Angela Rayner a 'frequent target' for the Tories? | LBC debate 

It's pretty rich coming from ANY TORY to talk about corruption.

Angela Rayner is, articulate, intelligent, confident, attractive and working class ! Tory Kryptonite.

Strange that the caller doesnt have a problem with insults being thrown around in Parliament until a working class woman insults the weakest and worst PM in UK history

She's a working-class female going up against the largely privately educated and privileged Tories.

It’s a class issue. They see Rayner as a pleb who is acting above her station. The truth is she’s lived experiences closer to the reality of life more than any other politician in Parliament today and they can’t stand it.

Even if Reynor is guilty we're talking a few thousand pounds. Compare this to the millions of tax that so many Conservative MP's have given away to their mates and have dodged in tax. This is such a non story and you should be ashamed of yourself for giving it so much attention

Yet the police chief assigned to open her case spoke at last years Tory conference.

Attacking Rayner as a 'hypocrite' for using RtB is a feeble move. Labour have never opposed people owning their own home, or buying their rental property. Labour's opposition was to the Tories defunding councils, ordering them to make up the shortfall by selling social housing stock, and forbidding the councils from using the proceeds to replace properties sold. It was a Tory national asset-stripping campaign. The exact opposite of the 'financial prudence' they are praised for by complicit UK media.

What did my local MP do, steal 90k from the taxpayer and only paid 5k of that back, still owns 85k + interest.

So we had three years of Johnson slinging insults left right and centre but now Angela Rayner has called Rishi ‘pint-sized’ there is suddenly an outcry of language in parliament?

The Rt Hon Nadhim Zahawi MP owed thousands and thousands of pounds in Tax and it didn’t stop him becoming the chancellor of the exchequer let that sink in

Angela Rayner employed the best form of defence, attack, attack, attack. So brave and intelligent of her, what an asset she is to Labour.

Churchill had no problem making personal attacks. The uptight little tory might want to read his party’s history

That snp guy spot on

She did so well yesterday standing up and facing Olive.

Nadine dorries called Sunik that name in her book. That's were the term comes from.

The media are focusing on ‘pint-sized loser’ to attack Rayners but Sunak attacked her at PMQs last week ! She had no means to reply then.

Watched until Bowie spoke...creepy little man

Wasn’t Rayner quoting Dorries with the pint size quip? I thought I’d read she calls him that in her book because of his so called betrayal of Johnson.

One minute Bowie is saying he can’t comment too much because it’s an ongoing police investigation, then says he’s mystified why Starmer isn’t commenting on that same investigation. It looks like he and the Scot nat don’t understand irony. Though the ultimate irony is the clown who made the complaint refuses to say what he thinks she did wrong.

Oliver Dowden was born "Taken Aback"

I thought Ms Rayner was excellent today

The Nasty Party

Someone needs to ask Jeremy Corbyn if he has been called anything more offensive or slanderous than "pint-sized". Tories, offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

The pint-size comment is a quote from Nadine Dorres.

People in glass houses. Rayner should go after ALL of these evil TAX DODGING TORIES and get our TAX. Also look into the use of the Police being instructed to investigate by a TORY COP!

Sunak broke the law for not wearing a seatbelt… if the Tories were holding the same standard then he should’ve gone ages ago.

Because there is nothing else for them to attack.

Right To Buy was a flagship Conservative policy. Its stated purpose was to turn renters into homeowners, promising to reduce their monthly payments and build up a tangible asset they could later sell or leave to their family. The unstated purpose was to flip them into being Conservative voters (or entrench existing Conservative loyalty). By attacking Rayner, the Tories and their client media are attacking all the people who took up the opportunity to buy their council house. Many of whom will have sold it since they bought it, and also paid no CGT, for the same reasons as Rayner (profit based on survey value, not discounted amount paid through RTB, allowed offsets for improvements, etc). The Tories are literally attacking their own voter base.

I think Starmers inaction is actually a sign of how confident he is that this is nothing and Angela doesnt need his help to weather this 'storm'.

Even if she did something wrong then it cant be prosecuted after 12 months. GMP should be dealing with all the Gun Grime in Moss side & all the other crimes happening in Manchester.

Why? Because she is better and stronger than the generic toff, spat-out from the British system. A walking example that the toffs and toff-wannabes are not 'your betters'. Britain's paramid is clear and obvious.. the wealthy, protected by a political party, who are protected by media and police. Keep the wealthy, wealthy and keep the tax paying peasants in line aka the British system.

They are scared of her, thats why. Shes a powerful voice, especially for the younger people.

"there always seems to be Conservative MP's in the Headlines recently for doing things that aren't so great" Gotta be a contender for understatement of the Year so far, maybe only topped by some of Netanyahu's utterings?

The simple answer is that they are scared of her

I'd ban the rule that says you cannot call out a liar as a liar before banning insults.

Didn't the Tories happily accuse Rayner of in effect being a "slapper" who showed her knickers to distract Johnson? Yet as soon as she makes a personal attack on Sunak she is out of order. Tories really don't like powerful women do they?

What's the point of an investigation when the statute of limitations prevent a court case being brought? Its just desperation from the Tories.

Yet they insult Angela on her looks, her clothing, the way she talks, she makes one comment, and she's shot down.

because shes working class.

Unbelievable, its ok if you are not tory to be a liar ,a cheat, and of course, doing the opposite to what they tell us to do You go, girl 👏 👧 ,

This is disgusting all thias and filthy tory friends like the moans walk off with 60 million invested in a tax haven LEAVE HER ALONE.

Funny as whoever the cardboard cut-out Tory is says its definitely not a laughing matter... Then 10 seconds after starts laughing about it

If you just take a look at the police chief who decided to reopen the investigation (remember it has already decided there was nothing to prosecute originally) - his strong ties to the Tory party and its members tell you all you need to know in regards to the hounding of Angela Rayner

Angela Rayner is clearly not one of them. If you talk to Tories they hate Gordon Brown much more than Tony Blair. Take it as a compliment and move on. They will always be full of hatred for people who do not share their narrow views.

She tried to hold politicians to account. They didn't like it, so found anything and turned it on her. It is a message to all other politicians. Once you realise this, you understand why very few support her.

Only privately educated people are allowed to have tax-"avoiding" offshore trusts which otherwise would be liable to ALL SORTS OF TAX. Had Brexit not happened there would have been increased scrutiny of these tax-"avoidance" vehicles. Angela Rayner was not privately educated, I should add.

Telling lies in parliament is not above the law and must be prosecuted.

Leave her alone

They (the Tories) go after a innocent person when their whole party is crooked.

I remember people saying parliament has gone down the tubes in the 70s

The Labour leader did back her.

If she has broken the law then she should resign...the current PM has broken the law & was sined by the police but hasn't resigned & neither did Johnson when he got his FPN

They do realise she was actually quoting Nadine Dorries right? It was Nadine that labelled Sunak Pint-sized

Let's be honest,even though the Tory MP reported her to the police,not one Tory member can say "what she has allegedly done and been reported for",

The Tories will do anything to avoid talking about the mess they have caused in this country

This is astounding when we see all those MP's benefiting from the profits of second homes WE paid for.😮 6:40 😮 6:47

Rayner is not like truss and Patel she won't go to bed with her boss

James O’Brien should have sued Dorris!

The tories are focusing on her situation because they don’t want people to focus on how badly they are doing

Not sure why the Tories think they have a moral.high ground on reading legal advice. Sunak refused to get personally involved in the investigations into Zahawi and Raab

to distract us from all the tory crooks, so they think anyway.

Starmer has backed Rayner. Rayner doesn’t need Starmer to read the letter. They’re both very relaxed about the whole thing. SNP & Tories sounding more desperate everyday.

Everyone seem to have short memories, didn't Boris make a comment about Ian Black SNP about weight and cake?

How you can compare what Rayner is alleged to have done when she was not even an MP with her calling for the Prime Minister to resign when he was clearly lying to Parliament during the pandemic?

Nice and balanced inviting a Tory MP on but no-one from labour

I dont think insults about how someone looks should ever be allowed. Not when its things about their body they cant change. And this is coming from someone who despises Rishi and thinks Reyna is a working class hero.

She didn’t make a direct insult. What she said highlighted infighting as the phrase was used by a Tory first.

Concil house compared to billions the tories have pocketed... do as we say not as we do pathtic

They are scared of her!

She got in first, knowing Dowden would try and make his own jokes. And it worked. All he had left was to claim that the British people didn't care about housing.

Though they say it’s not a joke, the tories are laughing out loud.?.?.?

Waste of the time of 12 Manchester police officers - they are pursuing this on the orders of the Tory party rather than lesser crimes of burglaries. This sort of ridiculous non story brings all politician into disrepute.

Really enjoyed that cross question, they were all civil and jovial!

Let’s talk about Michelle Moone,😮

I hope you all remember when Rayner was accused of opening her legs to put Boris off across the dispatch box quite ignoring that there was no sight line. Just a cheap trick that said more about Johnson and the Tories than it did about Rayner. That didn't stick so they will try again. She scares them.

What else have they got?

All MPs need to be held to the heights standards. This shouldn’t be about sides. We the people we can trust in the house of commons.

The Tories and the client media like Iain Dale are terrified of Angela Rayner. I would prefer she was Labour leader.

Shouldn't all MP's be held to account?

Both side of the house acted like children as usual, all they do is insult each other and weaponise real people's trauma against each other, it's completely abhorrent, both parties are out of touch.

So its ok for Rayner to constantly have ago at Tories. Every time she is under pressure on labour pledges etc, she cabt answer and tries to switch ot back to Gov. issues. Horrible and vindictive individual

Angela needs to take strength from the fact the Tories see her as such a massive problem due to her popularity that they have to keep this bullying campaign going! Angela showed her resilience at PMQS 🏆

She was cleared by police and HMRC. There cannot be a crime as time elapsed too long. Interfering with the police is a serious issue.

Tories HATE when the Peasants have have one of their own who can stand up to them, why they hate Galloway so so so so much, that includes Sir Keith Starmlin LOL

Anyone remember when hundreds of MPs were flipping which of their taxpayer-funded houses was their main residence, to reduce their tax burden? We were told to keep our noses out of their business. We were told it was 100% legal. We were told it was 100% moral. We were told it was 100% ethical. We were told to go back to our prole-slums, and not question our betters. The example was set, the precedent was established, that this was proper behaviour. And the public absorbed that message, that they were also allowed to do the same. A million people will have organised their finances the same way as Rayner, following the example of 1990s MPs. But because there's an election imminent, the Tories' pet police commissioner is conducting a fake investigation against Rayner, for acts that were never investigated when carried out by Tory MPs. Strange how a Greater Manchester care worker, and mother of a disabled child, is held to a stricter standard than UK lawmakers.

It's a class issue

Bowie’s colleague reported Rayner to GMP but he refuses to say what the complaint was.

is there chipmunk debating on LBC under a pink lace???😂😂😂😂

Keir starmer's background is not in tax law. How it he qualified to look it over? He should do what he has done get experts to look at it

There are two types of people who go into politics, people who genuinely want to make the country a better place, and people who want to line their own pockets. The past 14 years, we have been inundated with the latter. In order to restore trust in politics, we need to introduce a strict code of conduct for MP'S to abide by, with severe penalties for breaking the code.

It’s too late for police to take any action against Rayner so it’s a complete waste of police time! What happened about the millions lost through crooked PPE which was a massive scandal & nobodies been held accountable, no cash has been returned to the public purse???

My MP is Karl McCartney. I cannot stand him

The problem with British politics is the UK media. It pretty much a third party ran for Billionaire interests and with no accountability.

I'm voting Labour...I've never voted tory...but I don't like starmer ..He wants the pm ship his portrait in number ten ...He doesn't like Angela her being more popular than him .

drinking game , take a shot every time the torys mention JC in pm question time

End all food and drink deliveries into the Borough of Westminster. Stop feeding the beast.

The guy who says she may have broken the law, it must be remembered that the law is not a single line. If I get a speeding ticket, for going 80 on a motorway, I have broken the law yet this breach is far less serious than stealing vast sums of money from the public purse. The devil *is in* the detail.

Angela Rayner selling her house would have been advised by the estate agent. Tory ministers purchasing houses, selling assets, etc. would have been advised by specialist tax advisors and legal teams. Angela Rayner potentially owes £1,500. Nadhim Zahawi allegedly agreed to pay HMRC multiple millions. Conservative chancellor ‘forgot’ he had not paid stamp duty on 7 luxury flats… Perspective has been skewed to a righting view for decades and become worse since Alexander de Pfeffle Boris Johnson…

They are just scared of attacking Starmer and think she is easy meat!