Why is the mantra secret in transcendental meditation  

There's about a dozen and a half TM mantras and some have changed over the years.

Thanks for your honesty, l learnt TM in 1986, i fell out with the organisation, saw through the deceptive Mahesh Prasad, but returned to just using the technique whenever I felt I needed it.

The mantras themselves are very spiritual being Sanskrit names of God.

@@garygrunstein634 the mantras are bheeja mantras or codewords for Hindu dieties. My own mantra was for the goddess Lakshmi, so whilst repeating it over and over I am invoking the powers of that god. This is not as the TM organisation sell it to you as a meaningless sound. One of the advanced techniques add 'namah' after the mantra which translates to, l bow down.

If Maharishi only knew what has cometh of the spiritual TM practice he founded in 1950's and how it's been monetized/ commercialized, he'd totally be rolling in the grave! It was not his intention to charge exorbitant fees in the form of thousands of euros and back then, fees were much less and only meant to be donations to faciliate world tours of TM teachers as they spread the techqnique to those that wouldn't otherwise have access ~. Which is most definitely not the equivalent of building business empires and castles in central London and NYC!

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That's great

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thanks for sharing Stephen :)

How you make your TM ? It’s with Mantra ?

Wow ! Quite an identical story like mine. 😊

Same here started Tm in 79 things started to happen then stopped for a while but now for some unknown reason I being drawn back into again and am quite excited this is what I need right now and is great that RU-vid is around learn from other peoples experiences

Me, began in 1982, picked up a used book “Centering” which gave me a method of progressive body relaxation with a 5-5-5 breathing cycle. Only a few days into practicing at least 1x a day for 45-60 minutes, I astral projected and it freaked me out so much that I couldn’t get the same vibe back for myself. But my mind & heart & soul recently whispered in my ear to begin anew & so I find you today.🙏 I had to slog through a crap ton of absolute shiite vids on TM that were like 5 minutes long or even 1:41 min, & I’m like what knowledge can those unfortunate a$$ 🤡’s share or IMPART in 2 minutes. Sorry, it was frustrating me!😂 Glad to check you out.☮️

thanks for your input

You explained it best, thanx.

@@ceciliapena3294 Actually that thing about the mantra sound staying in your memory and stopping the mantra from freely developing: That was told to me at my initiation in 1970 when I asked my teacher about why we should keep it secret. It seems like this knowledge somehow got lost in the intervening years.

That's deep man. Probably the single most enlightened explanations of the mantra I've heard.

I had to read this a few times but ty, it's all starting to make better sense to me.

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Hvala :) my wife is Croatian

@@raphaelreiter I'm interested in hearing what your overall take is on it now? And what do you think of the David Lynch Foundation? Edit: Just watching your video "Is TM a scam" which pretty much answers the question :) But I'll leave my comment here anyway. It seems like big business. And they're adamant that it HAS to be taught by an instructor. And if their imperative and their mission is to spread TM to as many people as possible, why would they sue someone for teaching it? Original comment: Maybe I'm way off the mark, but it just strikes me that there's no real need for TM teaching/training, it seems like something that could be given away for free (?) But maybe it developed the way it did because initially, somebody had to teach it (no youtube in the 50s...), they needed to make a living too. And it grew to where people are still charging money to teach it because they can; but they have to deceive people a little bit to do that. Do you think that's fair to say? It just seems a bit suspicious that they are happy to maintain the mystery behind the mantra and keep people believing that they *need* a teacher to give them a mantra, when that's not necessary at all. And it sounds like you felt a little bit conned after finding out about the real source of the mantras? Would you pay for the class again, knowing the mantra is just taken from a preset list? I really like David Lynch and he strikes me as a true believer. But looking at the website for the David Lynch Foundation, I can't help but think... 1) At face value it resembles the website of any other shady self-help scheme and 2) Again, it just seems like maybe they're charging money for something that could be given away for free. And I don't know if that's right or wrong! But if there's elements of deceit and pseudo-religious-spirituality to it, I think that's shady. But at the same time, maybe David Lynch himself just truly believes in it and he thinks this is a good way to spread TM to as many people as possible. I don't know.... it seems like a legitimate technique that's been corrupted. Like, a really good product being sold through multi-level marketing - still a great product, but the way it's being sold isn't right. But maybe I'm wrong, it's just the impression I get.

What’s your opinion about finding a mantra?

Thank you, I will

You’re welcome Robert ! :)

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The mantra is 'secret' because it's different for each person and it is considered a highly personal and spiritual thing to each individual person not that it's being kept a secret from those on the outside kind of secret 😂😘 hope this helps❤

The enlightened beautifully spiritual TM people, before the course, make you sign a document in which you commit not to reveal the mantra. That's it, no spiritual reason given, pure commercial crap

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You're very welcome :) have fun at the workshop, your life is about to change!

@@raphaelreiter I know it will be profound, can't wait to start and am seriously considering becoming an instructor. Thanks for the response :-)

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@@raphaelreiter Did they make you remove the video?!

riddersjc yes. Got a letter from their lawyers. But it’s ok we will do some other just as good if not better meditations. Sounds good ?

You’re very welcome Ben ! :)

Wonderful!

love it. thanks!

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No worries!

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My pleasure Terry

You are so welcome

You’re welcome :-)

NO, it actually does work. I am a tm teacher for 40 years.

Thanks so much :-)

Hey Paul I know what you mean I had the same. First of all how are you sitting ? Where are you sitting ? Have you seen my meditation for healing video? I focus a bit on the jaw. It’s a very common problem I might do a video specifically on the jaw. But yeah make sure you are sitting in a good position with a good posture. Don’t focus on the concentration. Just think the mantra as effortlessly as possible.

@@raphaelreiter I sit on my sofa with leaning my back very comfortably. I did not watch the video yet. I will check and just try to follow only the mantra and less make try to concetrate as your advice. Thanks! :)

Please check with a good doctor. You may have some growth or disease in there.

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hahah ! yes maybe ! very probably in fact :)

Frida Laufer you’re welcome Frida !

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I agree... This video was posted some time ago... I have learned a lot about that organisation since then, and including on my mantra, etc. Its definitely not something I support.

thank goodness it's free online! you can look up what your mantra would have been based on your age, how old are you? 18-19 ieng ieng 20-21 iem iem 22-23 ienga ienga 24-25 iema iema 26-29 shirim 30-34 shiring 35-39 kirim 40-44 kiring 45-49 hirim 50-54 hiring hiring 55-54 hiring 55-59 sham 60 shama

@@raphaelreiter Dude you might want to look up Farias's meta-analysis of reports of adverse effects of meditation, TM and other mantra meditations some of the worst potential side effects of all the meditations, which doesn't surprise me becasue I think they also really alter your state of conciousness and all medicines have side effects, right? if it works it's going to have the potential to do harm, but it's definitely something to be wary of with depression because it can make depression worse (and of course it can also make it better or not impact it). Also if you have any history of psychosis in your family, it's a serious risk with mantra meditation, but it always seems to happen to people who do it for hours on end, shorter meditations seem lower risk

This is a shame! What you describe/observe here is not at all what it is. I stumbled across the TM teacher serving a large part of the UK, including where I live. I was so lucky to discover this as she is only 10 minutes drive away from my house. I contacted her because I needed "something" that would help me. I had had a horrific couple of years and wasted hundreds of pounds on therapists who were, in the end, useless. The cost of learning and becoming initiated into TM is based on your income, i.e. what you can afford. I had split up with my husband and lost my Dad as well as other close family and friends. On top of this there were a whole load of other sad situations affecting me and my life and indeed my peace. I was at my lowest and due to the situation I found myself in, I really couldn't afford to pay. My husband had been the earner and I the full time carer of my disabled son. It's a long story I guess, so the long and the short of it is... I contacted this wonderful teacher and she offered me an Incredible financial option. I, of course was extremely grateful and humbled and we soon got together and continued with my teachings and initiation.... All without me parting with a single penny. I honestly do not know what would've happened to me (and my son) if I hadn't happened upon this wonderful lady and incredible opportunity. I am 6 months down the road now and have so much to be excited about, thanks to TM and a wonderful teacher.I have learned so much and the light at the end of the tunnel is definitely not another train ... Jai Guru Dev 🙏❤️

I couldn't agree with you more! Echoing every word or what you wrote.

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You can continue using your old one :)

same for me - I got TM for free in my school in India in 1983 when these guys had come there from the US. So it seems they put their money to some altruistic use and I am grateful for that. I agree - it makes you peaceful. I started just few months back - the same old mantra.

This is the top complaint I see about TM. That TM has not room, guidance or path to grow, improve or evolve as other meditation practices. People who do TM will often say it's the same as the day they started decades ago.

@@TechnicFlow thats because the other practices take years to get anywhere and with TM you are there at the depths right away! there is research to back this up at truthaboutTM.org

@@-tamara your absolutely right mate, I learnt the technique 35 years ago, it was helpful for a while but then became sketchy, I think most people I knew that learnt around that time felt the same. I knew of a couple that learnt yogic flying in 1980 and guess what........ They're still only hopping! Waiting still for take off!

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Too long But I’ve thought about those phrases before Therefore I think if I try that it will take me to the thoughts I was able to come up with during that period

Lol sometime I used “what am I?” And lol the only thing that opened up was all my fears and insecurities lol 😂 It was like pictures and each picture had stood for an insecurity I definitely knew

Sure :-)

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I see what you did there. Ha.

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Thanks Vanilla goose ! Like your name. Sounds surprisingly tasty

Raphael Reiter Lol i figured out a good way of picking a name for playstation network or w.h.y , a Flavour and Animal it works great 👍🏻 Like Barbacuedog or spicy dinosaur etc keep that to yourself though as seeing some awful names while gaming gives me a giggle 🤭

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Hi, my opinion is that this organisation itself is a scam. The mantras are Hindu gods and the whole thing is very religious. I suggest you read the book TMDeception by an ex TM teacher or watch the documentary titled “David wants to fly”

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I honestly dont believe it is necessary. You can do our guided meditations here for free, or you can also sit down for a few minutes and enjoy the power of your breath. Let me know what you decide :)

Because they want your money ...so they say you need a personal mantra that only they can give you its money making for them

I just read that someone named David Lynch did EEG experiments with different mantras .. and he used an random German word and it gave more EEG results

SySnacc I know what you mean.... I think they do use the money to teach tm in impoverished areas though through the dl foundation... but yeah it’s a bit strange that it’s so costly I totally agree. I’m actually thinking more and more about starting a new RU-vid channel to teach the whole techniques myself

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Then do it yourself. Go to school in your room and make up your degree, for free. and then benefit from the free education that you did. Money is exchange for value. Go get free food. It is worth it!

@Sajid Abdurrahman How do you define "too much"? Most of those other organizations you mention have little if any effect on society. TM has had a lot of effect in many aspects. Health, education, rehabilitation, business, science. Without a structured organization, that takes $$$, very little gets done. But it "feels" good to talk about. If you really like free, then go ahead and get your free stuff. I have noticed that free stuff often is wanted but not appreciated. Most that get some type of meditation free, don't continue. Remember free relates to little to no value.

No one will ever be able to reason with me why meditation should not be taught for free or donation only. I'll stick to my free Vipassana meditation retreats that are offered around the world. Meditation is medicine and to put it behind a barrier that only middle-income people can afford is disgusting and no better than pharmaceutical companies that charge gouge medicines.

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Hi Roy sure. Ask any questions you want :)

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I heard when creating a mantra, you should add Om at the end of the word not at the beginning.

I knew that there has to be an Om inside... now .. lets get down to business :) i wonder how long usually it takes for a person to feel mantra working , i have many many combinations to test :D

@@lukaszpajak1935 Om is a recluse mantra, and Maharishi came into the world to teach a technique for those who are active in the world. It's a bad idea to use a recluse mantra. And besides. The TM mantra is chosen for the individual so as to be in tune with that person. Mantras are not universal.

hi, you don't have to make up your own, there are lots of lists of the official ones online, they are just based on age and the year that the teacher was trained, they have nothing to do with your personality or anything like that here's a sample list with ages 18-19 ieng ieng 20-21 iem iem 22-23 ienga ienga 24-25 iema iema 26-29 shirim 30-34 shiring 35-39 kirim 40-44 kiring 45-49 hirim 50-54 hiring hiring 55-54 hiring 55-59 sham 60 shama

When I first did the tm course I was told I was given a secret mantra that was personal and I was gullible enough to believe it at the time. I have since then found my mantra online it’s just according to age and gender. This is an old video right after I did the course. I don’t regret it because there is no point but I would not do it again. Check out my newer content and maybe try these meditations. They are free and secular.

@@raphaelreiter thank you brother im just afraid i may not be able to do it right but i will try! Yes i found them online and i was wondering if they were true thank you

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I had never heard that. This doesn’t apply to all mantras.

No you don’t need all this

@@raphaelreiter thank you!

thank you for sharing

Dan Palates to learn tm? No unfortunately. This week end I will post a guided meditation that uses some of its principles

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@@RWP108 Well, in Germany i got turned away simply because I can't afford it. I am a student and for me they still charge something close to 600€ which is something like 706,58 US-Dollar (just googled it). It is so toxic that a meditation practise is nothing more than a bought product. The funny thing is: If I want to pay in instalments they add some interest. Like wth?

@@RWP108 Can't get anywhere near there. A friend of mine recommended me this because this method really helped her and she thought it may help me as well. It was just so destroying to see that they only take interest in you as long as you have money to pay them.

@@RWP108 Well, it's a course which is several days long (4 if i am not wrong), i can't afford to stay there for this period of time, going there and back isn't even an option. (And then there's still the course fee.) I'm a lowly university student. My options are quite limited.

thanks for sharing

Wowwww interesting

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thanks for your words. i was also initiated in |1973, and jumped to siddhis TM in order to become TM teacher. mantras have meaning i learned 15 years later in 1990, when i discovered that pantajali power aforisms were mantras and mine was a power word to become so so small that you could travel anywhere. i experienced that before i did again in as part of the siddhis TM.

That was a decent explanation of how a mantra (TM or otherwise) has power in the mind, to change your state of consciousness, you explain it clearly and minus the TM psycho babble. You were extremely lucky to experience such a deep transcendental experience on your initiation, I had a similar experience, years after quitting TM and in an almost surreal situation where I sat with an Indian yogi gentleman, who asked me if he could 'try and make me see something'. I was cynical but what occurred would take a lot of words to explain as you already know. I emerged from that meditation after 30 minutes in, what seemed, completely new surroundings and a new lighter mind! My advice to anyone who is thinking about TM is don't pay for a technique (unless you have a lot of spare cash), just learn the basic technique, the add on and advanced techniques are just to suck you in to a money go round, more importantly DO NOT practice twice a day everyday, only use meditation when you feel at times it may be beneficial.

Good tip ! But the travelling there might be expensive haha

You can change it of course :) it’s not set in stone. With time I find that the mantra takes over previous meanings as you stick with it twice a day every day

oh thats a long time ago, i cant remember to be honest!

as much or as little as you want / feel. trust your instincts

@@raphaelreiter great ! That’s helpful. There have been times an extra session helped. Appreciate the reply 🙏

Haha - you don’t understand that mantra is not the only part of tm.

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It’s not really a secret

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I have since then preferred to meditate with a vibration and have found out some things that have put me off TM. I don't regret doing the course, but I wouldn't do it or advise to anymore.

@@raphaelreiter Thank you for your honest and prompt reply. Was more inquiring about your emotional wellbeing: are you doing okay now?

yes it does, absolutely. It needs to be repeated

That happened to me at the beginning. My mantra resembled a word in french. Little by little the mantra took over and the meaning became irrelevant. But I understand it can be distracting. Have you tried the latest guided meditation on the channel ? I use a deep white noise to follow there. Try it and let me know if it works better

just don´t mind. It will change in time. It´s not important.

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@@LawsonEnglish thanks ill try.

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Yeah that was an old video :) needed a good learning curve. Thanks for the feedback !

I got a massive anxiety attack and had to pause it and I don't think I will turn in back on .

No, not to me. It is obviously chosen somehow and there is no way to get a fully customised personal mantra. I don’t really care about this. The technique is not just about the mantra. This is why the guided meditations we do here work so well for so many people. There is no mantra just a vibration, the same for all.

@@raphaelreiter Thanks for the response. I'm looking for what works the best for me. Tried one of your meditations yesterday. It was fantastic. I aspire to be as disciplined as you are, mate. Posting daily meditations is no joke.

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To sell more courses to more people I guess

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Any sound or word works just as well if not better

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haha, you're so funny Nick!

Yes me too

I have changed the practice to suit me better since then :-)

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You can use any word. The actual mantra is insignificant. In tm they are names of deities - you can google that. But I recommend just using a simple word

Yes!

well i dont think a mantra has that much power...

Sound or frequencies can help or hurt any life form. MOST sounds in nature resonate to our optimal health while MOST man made sounds don’t. So a mantra that mimics sounds of nature and resonates with you, can have profound power. If there is a single, optimal frequency for human kind, I’d want it to be shared!

thats a question that is a bit complex to answer in a youtube comment

im not sure which one you mean

Win win means win for both parties. Win win for them would be simply : win for them ? Single sided. And yes, maybe it is. But they have sent me lawyer letters because apparently I’m not loud to talk about it .. so. Wait for my next video where I explain a few things ;)

Raphael Reiter wait they actually sent you letters of complaint about this video? Hmm... bit strange. Surely anyone should be allowed to talk about it.

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