WHY IS THE SPITFIRE SO DAMN HARD TO HANDLE? - Spit Mark-Nine Tips For DCS World Pilots - w/Sound Mod

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Correction: I had R.J. Reynolds on my tongue being from North Carolina...but I meant R.J. Mitchell. Reynolds was the Tobacco Tycoon and I misspoke in the video....sorry. 😉
Hey guys, a few of my friends and some of the viewers voiced their challenges with the Spitfire in DCS World...here's some tips I have found to get around on the ground and up and down in the air. Hope it helps. ~ Juice
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@theheatedveststoreaustrali5556 2 месяца назад

Just completed by real life taildragger endorsement for my licence. Made this a lot easier to fly in DCS. Tips from real flying. Hold back the stick.TRIM 1 MARK NOSE DOWN AND RUDDER FULL RIGHT TRIM. add boost 4 then push stick forward until tail comes up. Use larger rudder movements when slow and less as faster. Then when about 60mph add boost to 8. Slowly move stick back and wait till it takes off. Always look forward.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 2 месяца назад

Awesome input and pinned to the top. Thank you, and my add… Always keep flying the aircraft even when on the ground.

@FrostyJester2-2 Год назад

Man, Echo19 did an amazing job on the spit's sound in their mod. Hoping they do a repeat for the Mossie

@bricktopperheadon5490 Год назад

There is an outfit that provides 3D printable plans for Spitfire spade stick, throttle and landing gear controls. Their name escapes me, but there are vids here on yt. I think there’s a reference to them in “Chuck’s guide “ for the Spitfire. Edit: Authentikit is their name.

@DavidBrown-tl3ft Год назад

I have printed and use the Spitfire Authentikit controls and makes this a joy to fly.

@OLIV3R_YT Год назад

@@DavidBrown-tl3ft Wow, that Authentikit website has some dope stuff!

@kevinwinters4803 Год назад

I use the Authentikit Spitfire spade controller. Two things it has that make controlling the Spit easier: longer length of stick provides greater fidelity controlling the elevator and an analog brake lever. Highly recommended.

@philb1167 Год назад

I also highly recommend checking out the Authentikit controllers

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Correction: I had R.J. Reynolds on my tongue being from North Carolina...but I meant R.J. Mitchell. Reynolds was the Tobacco Tycoon and I misspoke in the video....sorry. 😉

@NCTuskie Год назад

I’m a NC Expat. I know exactly what you’re talking about

@IlliniGeek Год назад

Chapel Hill here. Didn’t even notice 😂

@NCTuskie Год назад

From Greensboro myself 😂

@IlliniGeek Год назад

Dancing on the rudder is an excellent suggestion. I find I am over correcting by holding the rudder too long.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Give her a little hug on each side and loosen up the pressure as ground speed increases. “Dancing” on the rudder is something Cabi~ taught me 20 years ago and it still sticks in my memory.

@Red-Magic Год назад

Having flown the Spitfire since its release, here are my tips: 1) BIND YOUR BRAKE TO A TOEBRAKE ON YOUR PEDALS. This will help you incredibly! You get much more brake precision with an axis, versus a button. It doesn't take that long to get used to, either. This alone will probably be anybody's biggest help when it comes to handling the Spitfire on the ground 2) For takeoff, spin the elevator trim until the trim indicator is pointing anywhere from +0.5 to +1. By default upon spawning in, it's set at +2. This is more akin to what your landing trim will be, than takeoff. And for rudder trim, trim rudder right until the knob hits the stop, or maybe slightly less. 3) CONTROL SENSITIVITY: If you are having problems trying to control the Spitfire in the air and keeping it steady, go to Adjust Controls, down to your axis controls, and find your pitch axis. Edit/customize that axis, and set its 'Saturation Y' to 60. This gives you 2/3rds of the Spitfire's true pitch range, but those 2/3rds are practically all you will ever, ever need. 4) When landing, set pitch trim to +2. You'll want to come in at around 110-100MPH, but it's less about what your actual speed is, and more about what your AoA is as you come in to land...that's just something that you get acclimated to with time. Once you set your wheels down, LET IT ROLL for a few seconds to allow it to stabilize, or if it doesn't, give you a chance to throttle up and take back off before things get out of hand. Then, start braking. Unfortunately when it comes to braking, slowing down after landing, there's no special tip for that except _get experience._ You'll probably be scraping your wingtips left, then right, then left again and then come to a stop with your ass in the air for the first 5 or 6 attempts, before you finally start to see yourself improving. But keep at it, and you'll get there. The Spitfire is one of the most rewarding experiences in DCS to master, a true _aviator's plane!_ Before long, you'll be successfully making smooth landings with one popped tire and a jammed rudder control rod

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Thanks a bunch!!

@Jim610 Год назад

All taildraggers are better mannered on the ground if you hold full back stick except when moving in a strong tailwind. Even works in DCS.

@DCS_World_Japan Год назад

My Spit taxi game really improved once I figured out how to use the prop wash to turn when in wider spaces or on the curving taxiways of Biggin Hill.

@docholliday1811 Год назад

Thanks for the help. It really helped in getting me off the ground and out of going in a continuous circle.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Need the WWII Spitfire Manual?

@nuchbutter Год назад

I use the analog twist on my Thrustmaster T16000 joystick. Sort of replicates the exact muscle movement of reaching and squeezing the brake handle. Rudders are the T16000 cheapie pedals that came with the 3 piece set, but work well enough.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Thanks for the details...that's a great idea. I thought of buy a Spitfire Spade Column but man, I don't like switching over and try to use one setup for everything. Helicopters is pretty smooth for me, and with my paddle, I just have to remember not to squeeze it all the way (pump, pump, pump) but your twist axis sounds perfect. ~ Juice

@TacticalPascale Год назад

She handles like a dream, once you 'get' it. Nice vid pal.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Absolutely. I think I learned a thing or two about the Spitfire from you my brother. Let’s do some more history videos together on your channel soon!

@TacticalPascale Год назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Sounds like a plan, I'm on leave soon so my schedule is flexible. Some tours as we did for you a while back would be cool. (I'm in love with the P-47...don't tell the spitfire...or my wife.)

@ImpendingJoker Год назад

A little advice for making power setting changes to high performance engines is this, when reducing power: Set MP, Set RPM, Set Mixture and when increasing power: Set Mixture, Set RPM, Set MP.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Great tip. You can definitely tell that I don’t have a complex rating. Fuel injected in standard carburetor is all I ever flew. Never did complex prop or gear up gear down training. Only have 10 tail well and needs to my name and everything else is tricycle gear, Cessna 150 or 172.

@RealSkyfire Год назад

Thanks for the video - yes, the Spit is a thing of its own 😀. Regarding the break, most Virpil sticks have a paddle level that has an axis (as compared to the warthog stick, were it's just a button). So you can use this as an analogue break handle, which is very helpful here and in various Russian modules, who have a similar breaking concept.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Perfect!

@Scoop1_1 Год назад

Hi Juice, thanks for the useful tips as always. Flying DCS for a couple of years, but the War Birds are new to me and turn out to be challenging (tail draggers, prop.torque, engine management, etc.). However, so fulfilling once you get to master these skills and your tips & tricks are a big help. You mentioned not being sponsored by ED for your War Bird promotion lately, but they probably should. I picked up one map update (Normandy), 3 Modules (P47, P51 and Spitfire) and 3 Campaigns (Reflected) and loving it. My favorite so far is the P-47D, but the other two are as iconic and wonderful as well. I am still on the fence concerning the Corsair, as I am starting to see the bottom of my wallet and there is still so many great stuff in the DCS development pipeline. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for adding a new dimension to an already great hobby.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Reflected has the best warbird tutorials on RU-vid. ru-vid.com/group/PLRzvLZpRXLADCnzsCA94Kx9fbeoGaQGeT Thank you for the words! See you over the Channel!

@groundpounder0541 Год назад

Cool story for ya....I work at a very famous National Cemetery in the DC area. I met a veteran who was a Nebraska farm boy. At 17 he received 3 weeks of flight training, then volunteered to fly for the RAF flying Spits against the Germans. His first sortie was 4 months after the first time he flew a plane. Imagine facing the battle hardened Luftwaffa (sp?) with less than 6 months of stick time 🤯

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Wow, what a great gem...wish I had spent more time talking to heroes like him...so very few left.

@owensks Год назад

My great grandfather had a similar story he had minimum training when he was 18 he sent over to the UK where he flew in Bomber command under the RCAF he tallied up 100+ flight hours in the Lancaster alone he flew a few other planes he had some interesting stories.

@CaptJack747 Год назад

Hey guys, really enjoy your videos. I use the TM TPR's and have set both brake pedals as an axis to the brake handle. I set them as sliders and now can use either pedal to modulate any brake pressure and still have left and right control with the pedals.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Great tip! I was thinking that DCS will let us double bind a control...so your setup is a perfect solution...thanks for sharing this...J

@bukhariali71 Год назад

For the Spitfire, a very good set of rudder pedals are essential. Twisty stick rudders won’t cut it at all. A friend of mine who is also a tail wheel pilot taught me how to manage the Spitfire. Also, I recently upgraded my pedals from CH Pro to Thrustmaster TPRs and OMG, what a difference.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Totally agree...I was flying the TF-51D with Saitek X52 and it was tough to do it well and consistently right with a twist stick...once I switched to TM Warthog and MFG Crosswind...man, I felt much more competent in my Tail-Wheel Aircraft abilities. Thanks for the testimony...J

@martinlagrange8821 Год назад

I threw in the towel and put on the auto-rudder in total frustration, when it came to takeoffs... For the rest, Chuck's Guides helped tremendously in terms of setting controls for ground and takeoff handling. Landings, by comparison, are very easy....make of that what you will.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

I started with Autorudder and takeoff assistance when I had my twist stick before 2018...then I slowly reduced the settings and my curves/deadzones to minimal and now with pedals and knowing the trim...it's better. Bites me sometimes. Chuck's a friend and his guides are great Quick Ref for me...but I really love Reflected's ultimate tutorial series on the warbirds.

@Andy-ql9wh Год назад

Hi, and thank you for the DCS WWII content lately. I have taken the dive and began making videos to give people tips also. They are amateurish, compared to yours. WWII in DCS is very underrated or under appreciated so to say. I think a lot of the problems new players have are related to the fact that DCS WWII is way more labor intensive, meaning that most anyone can jump into a modernish jet sim with fly by wire flight controls, and pretty much fly right out of the box. But Tail draggers are a totally different beast. they give even experienced jet sim pilots problems. I have been around GA most of my life. DCS is by far the most realistic of the combat flight sims, as far as prop aircraft go. I think it has to do with their helicopter experience. A propeller is a rotor basically, only its on the front instead of the top. learning to fly the aircraft is too hard for some people at first. and then you have to learn combat maneuvers, and how to shoot. That's a whole other ball of wax. its a steep learning curve, but well worth it.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Thank you and I will have to check your content out…I’m sure it is better than you give yourself credit for.

@Andy-ql9wh Год назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP thank you sir, people say I sound drunk, But I don't drink any more, and I cant help that I sound like Huckleberry hound.... Lol

@BlackHornetSim Год назад

Great video! I don't own any of the WWII era planes, but I've been meaning to pick a couple up recently. They look great!

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

The TF-51D training Mustang is included for free in DCS World and is a great starting point.

@MeltDown950 Год назад

You need the brake on an Axis, if you don't, you'll never get anywhere with this lady! Got to say, The Winwing F-16 grip is great for this since it has both switch and axis on the paddle.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Works for me.

@Squid2650 Год назад

Nice vid as always, looking forward to my new rig to start playing more seriously again... Also you should give the Mossie a spin, it is hilariously fun! -Squid

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Thanks! Will do!

@monkman911 Год назад

Just grabbed the Spit on sale today for 50% off. The 2 WWII modules that I do not own now are the Mossy and the Anton. If I'm being 100% honest I prefer the Mustang and Thunderbolt only because they have 3 axis trim. Keep up the good work Juice!

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

AMEN...Yes, the 3-Axis trim almost feels like cheating and I often wish I had such luxuries in the other warbirds. Thanks for Sharing Monkman...J

@mostevil1082 10 месяцев назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Stick is definitely a huge factor in that. Sprung joysticks fighting you makes it more difficult than it needs to be. I put washers under the counter springs on my warthog and it helps a whole lot for warbirds and whirly birds.

@stevep4131 Год назад

Here is an idea for a controller for flying DCS.. I use an RC (Radio Control) radio to fly my DCS Spitfire. The radio is a TX16S. Connection to my PC is by a 2m USB cable giving me 32 channels. This provides all controls in one ergonomic device. The radio uses EdgeTx which means I can mix/adjust and program anything and everything from the radio. Radio has two sticks. Right hand stick is elevator/aileron. Left hand stick is throttle/rudder. So no dodgy foot pedals to deal with. For brakes I use a slider on the side of the radio which automatically blips the brakes on/off at a rate depending on slider position. Works very nicely. Same slider raises/lowers UC. I don't use curves in DCS, I use curves in my radio inputs. I don't use DCS trims. I use the trim tabs provided on the radio. Only downsides are - 1) Gun trigger is separate switch and not mounted on a joystick - but just takes getting used to. 2) Rudder is hand operated rather than foot operated. Pluses and minuses to this one. Not ideal for transitioning to manned aircraft, but perfect for transitioning to RC model planes. (I've been doing circuits & bumps in the DCS Spitfire for a couple of weeks now. I get about 6/10 successful landings but improving all the time!)

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Sweet, thanks for sharing this!

@MrSpinkser Год назад

Finally somebody who does set a proper fov!

@aroga34 Год назад

good job and good video....I just acquired the campaign for Mk IX operation epsom...and it's true, I only move the trim wheel a little to port and not complete for takeoff...for me it's better and a little elevator back. Thanks for the video

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Right on

@happyhalfwit8862 Год назад

Hi I am fortunate to have a few friends that fly spits and its variants. They all comment that it is a really tricky beast to get up and down but airborne its a dream. The Spade means the controls are naturally overly sensitive and apparently the trick flying it is let your hand follow your head, look and it follows dont try to move the stick! Statistically about the same number of Spits were destroyed by T/O and landing accidents, the 109 actually killed more pilots in those phases than the RAF managed to. A friend who COA flies warbirds has flown the 109 and will never get in one again! There is a company that makes the spade grip for flight sims here in the uk the also make exact replicas for many of the warbirds, cant remember the name but google will find it and i think its on forums too.

@Tom--Ace Год назад

Full right rudder trim explains why when I tried the spitfire in ms fs 2020, it went careening off the runway. Thanks! I never had rudder pedals in il2 days and always had auto rudder trim, so didn't kno I know this is about DCS but ms fs 2020 can have tricky behaviour on its WWII warbirds too (even if it's far less of a study level Sim)

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Hope everything was helpful...cheers.

@apocalypticweasel9078 Год назад

I use the throttle slider on the warthog throttle, i roll it forward to read 4 on the brake pressure gauge and leave it there for taxiing works a treat

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

I thought about using the slider on the right side of throttle that I have now sent to the prop lever. Then I could use the left throttle for the brakes but so far my pedal switch is working out fine for me.

@apocalypticweasel9078 Год назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Yeah i did try the paddle switch on the stick but i kept forgetting to apply it, i think its muscle memory built up from flying jets you pop the nose wheel steering button and thats it until you get lined up. The thing i struggle the most with is bullet convergence when shooting down targets of opportunity.

@AlexC259 Год назад

Just got my first warbird ( Spitfire )with the Channel map so thanks for this video. Very much enjoy flying the WB’s but having a bit of a struggle using the rudder and keeping control of plane during combat. Where modern jets don’t use the rudder as much and keeping control is easy vs prop planes. Would love to see videos covering prop-plane combat flying techniques

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

You got. We’re working on WWII period historical battles and tactics of the period. As always, feel free to share links to historical data on your favorite warbirds! ~ Juice

@groundpounder0541 Год назад

Yeah man, a rudder pedal upgrade is imminent for me 😅

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Try Craigslist first...you'd be amazed how lucky you can get sometimes finding a great deal on used gear. Got my TM Warthog, New in Box but 1 year old sat there unopened for $325 in 2018.

@yootoob22 Год назад

The Virpil T50 stick has a lever brake axis that works great for the Spit and the Mossie…and for the L39, Mig 15 and 19. It’s great for immersion, and authenticity of braking mechanics

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing this information. Good stuff for everyone.

@chknnwffles7772 Год назад

Because it’s awesome!

@pcakes1878 Год назад

i dont even play this game but this is so cool

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

It’s a Cult, RUN!

@TheRaptorXX Год назад

Another good little tip is to keep the stick back a bit as well when taxiing. Plamts the tail just a LITTL:E more on the ground...

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Great tip! I got used to doing that in the others but the Spit required all my focus and that muscle memory hadn't kicked in yet. Thanks for sharing and cheers ~ Juice

@samsmith6791 Год назад

Aerial gunnery is what I struggle the most with the Spit!

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Hey Sam...are you adjusting your sight settings in the airplane and did you map three buttons for 303 MG, 20mm Cannon, and Both? www.key.aero/article/barons-combat-corner-art-aerial-gunnery

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Here ya go: www.docdroid.com/gGs7QuQ/fighter-pilot-gunnery-pdf#page=3

@cabi599 Год назад

Reginald J. Mitchell was the designer's name.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Ha ha good one, I had RJ Reynolds the aluminum giant on my tip of my tongue. Is it a RJ Mitchell thanks for the point out. Cheers.

@il2cliffsofdovercodgamepla206 Год назад

Spit take off trimm is a 30-50% right, and 10% up, your trimm max up)

@alcatraz0643 8 месяцев назад

Good thing is that i started with spitfire my DCS journey so other planes were not problem after that, mostly jets

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 8 месяцев назад

Cheers! If I read you correctly, master the Spitfire, you can handle any Warbird? I would agree.

@alcatraz0643 8 месяцев назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Maybe its just beginnings i went from spitfire to jets for long time, then apache and helicopter was very different, i learned to use rudder better, then i took bf109 and long time that was terrible on ground but after handling bf109, spitfire was easier and now everything i fly is like some deep muscle memory where plane just need more or less of certain things. Probably just more experience when i compare my day one of crashing everywhere with now smooth landings ,... years will do life easier.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the feedback and for watching the video. I had a guy today comment that without even watching the video he will tell me why it's hard...because I don't have an extension on the stick. I started to answer him, and realized he didn't even watch the video so I just deleted his comment. The video is about the IRL Spitfire design and considerations for flying it for real as they transfer to DCS. LOL - My stick might be short, but it works for me just fine! 😜 If you catch drift. Cheers Alcatraz!

@alcatraz0643 8 месяцев назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP 🤣🤣🤣, iam flying it on f16 stick with virpil base and its good. Like warbirds were always harder to fly, it make sense they dont have those fancy computers and engines you can push to full and dont care anymore. Cheers to you too.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 7 месяцев назад

I have a couple of AWG members that just bought force feedback stick base and now I am wanting one 🤔

@bukhariali71 Год назад

Setting up curves for the pitch axis is important too unless one is using a stick extension of some sort. The default settings are way too sensitive in DCS. Don’t have that problem in IL2 Great Battles.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

I've not tried IL2 at all, but have heard that from everyone with stick extension in my group...what a difference it makes, they say. I used Curve/Deadzone to get the feel I need as you can see in my AAR training vids. ~ Juice

@johnmcgahern3946 4 месяца назад

A lot of Spitfire and Bf109 pilots died while trying to land due to the narrow landing gear. The FW was so much more stable with it's wide undercarriage.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 4 месяца назад

🫡Great point, I feel the Mustang and Thunderbolt fit in well to for that reason. Thanks.

@johnmcgahern3946 4 месяца назад

Definitely! Oh and great video, thank you!@@AIRWARFAREGROUP

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 4 месяца назад

Hey, thanks, I kind of made it to be sarcastic that it can be difficult, but if you practice and practice it gets easier because I actually don't find this spitfire challenging to take off and land anymore. It helps to have the controls dialed in and be aware of what aircraft I'm in because if I jump out of one airplane and into another, I have to change my mindset of how to control the airplane because there are a lot of differences. Cheers, and have a great week.

@mitchr8481 11 месяцев назад

I just got the Mossy because after miles AI got it for $19. I liked it so much I started flying the Spit. Ive owned it for like 6 years now and only flew it a few times. Seemed like I was cheating, lol.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 11 месяцев назад

Sweet! Did you see my Merlin Math video? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Omcxn3xs600.htmlsi=_TRET3EfHWvcx9od

@Rabble1narms Год назад

Spitie is Patience - in all aspects

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Excellent advice.

@barryrrab 5 месяцев назад

The Mosquito is Awesome...

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 5 месяцев назад

🫡Merlin x2

@Ephedrin666 8 месяцев назад

The myth with the narrow landing gear making the Spitfire hard to taxi and takeoff is just not true. There are plenty Spitfire pilots on youtube stating that the Spitfire is VERY stable, you only can not brake her hard or she'll tip on her nose. The problem we have in DCS is that the prop wash over the rudder (and elevator) is not simulated. Try it out, hold the brakes in any of those WW2 prop fighters and move the rudder or push forward. Nothing will happen. Then do the same in that Piper Cub. In DCS you need differential brakes and airstream to keep directional control. In reality the prop wash can help keeping the engine torque under control. I recommend the videos of Dave Hadfield, he flies a Spitfire and several other british and american fighters of a private collection in Canada. During his flights he often comments (voice over usually) about the quirks and tricks flying the plane. He is quite clear that the Spitfire is NOT hard to keep on track during takeoff.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for your input ✌️I’m finding it easy to manage, second only to the Mustang. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EKsQd4SINEM.htmlsi=VpowMDjuXTZEFaLa

@Allstar14234 Год назад

Technical question: shouldn’t manifold pressure come down before bringing rpm down and reverse for adding power?

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

In the real world for sure. DCS doesn’t penalize you if you don’t.

@julianmorrisco Год назад

It’s odd, but I’ve kinda forgotten how hard the spit used to be. Like several tasks in DCS (air to air refuelling for example) it looks like getting comfortable in the spit is one of those things that clicks after a few hours in the ‘pit. Sure, a not insignificant number of my landings can be, let’s say, squirrelly. But taxiing and flight? They both feel like home to me now. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no great pilot or dogfighter but I do enjoy strapping the spit on and flying it. One key for me when on the ground was to learn to stay slow. The AI still gives 0:01 me the shits with their kamikaze antics on the ground but if I keep well away from those stupid robot pilots I’m fine.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Same thing for me...I relax, remember my muscle memory tuning for this particular airplane (I rarely jump around airframes in the same day) and if I'm flying Warbirds, that's my series of aircraft for the day. I can even go to helicopters which I use pull back throttle for collective pitch, and I don't have any issues with negative transfer. But it wasn't always this way and you and I can testify to others that sticking with it, practice makes perfect. Thanks for sharing...it helps others stay involved. See you next month maybe on a public warbird server.

@Bronco-1776 Год назад

All I can say is that taxiing a flying a Spit must be 1,000 times easier in real life than in DCS.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

👍 I bet!

@tucsonlivestream3203 5 месяцев назад

I just got into the Spitfire and the first thing I noticed is the way my Trackir setup (for F/A 18) cannot work in the cramped cockpit. Has anyone made a profile that can download?

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 5 месяцев назад

If you find one, let me know that works because the FOV saving in the cockpit is broken right now in DCS world has been for almost a year.

@terryteed1903 8 месяцев назад

I just recieved my MFGs amd having more issues than i did with my ball crusher TFRP ones. Its going to take me a few tries(hundreds of few lol) before ill get proficient again. Thank goodness its a simulation. I would have been religated to sentry duty for ever if it was real lol.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 8 месяцев назад

How are the pedals though?

@terryteed1903 8 месяцев назад

@AIRWARFAREGROUP butter, absolutely sublime. No squeaks, flexing, my nuts can breathe. What's not to like lol.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 8 месяцев назад

Same thing here…I’m loving the space to keep my undercarriage cool and dry! The regular game pedals like CH Products or Saitek are fine, just too narrow. I’m the second owner of mine with a SN: 0934

@terryteed1903 8 месяцев назад

@AIRWARFAREGROUP funny, I am also the second owner of these ones S.N 8434, £100 cheaper than new, now all that remains is purchasing 2 extra stands , 1 for throttle and 1 for keyboard for my wheelstand pro, just to get it all in the right place. I'm interested to know what number cam insert you use? I think I have 5 in place at the minute.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 8 месяцев назад

I think it’s a number five as it came with two of them and the one that I don’t have installed is a number four.

@barryrrab 6 месяцев назад

can you trim the spit to fly hands off? I've just got dcs... spit mossie and f18 which I've not really done anything with so far , but the spit always wants to roll ... I've got the thrustmaster f1600 HOTAS...

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 6 месяцев назад

I can for the most part, but the feet are needed still to keep the rudder in check for when the plane starts to deviate from power and speed changes. Let’s just say that I don’t leave it flying to get up and go to the bathroom 😜

@octane2099 Год назад

our not missing out on anything with the mosquito its really hard to take off with its like 5 times harder than the spit

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Okay, it’s official! I’m definitely not going to get the Mossie…

@octane2099 Год назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I wasn't trying to disgorge you, maybe I'm doing something wrong but that was my experience its never got off the ground with me

@DCS_World_Japan Год назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I've got the Mossie and find it much tamer than the Spit, 109, or Anton. It does get very unruly if you try to force the tail up prematurely, and it likes to bounce on landing, but other than that it feels like flying an oversized Spitfire.

@jamieeast4974 Год назад

Here is a review on a spitfire control stick. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kgq1TEdyb4I.html Throttle link. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MW3-U55ifFc.html

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Thank you very much!

@colderwar Год назад

Part of the issue with the DCS Spit is that the difficulty of ground handling is overdone. I flew a motion simulator last year that was used for transitioning pilots to the Spitfire, and in that - which you'd hope would be as accurate as possible, because it's a training tool for real pilots - the aircraft was about 30% less psychotic. Weirdly they didn't let me do a landing and takeoff in the real one when I flew that, I reckon I could have gotten the thing down in no more than two or three large pieces 😄 It seems weird to me that the control sensitivies are defaulted towards a stick length that maybe 0.5% of DCS users are likely to own. But then that's ED for you - correct as is, thread locked. There's no point in me adding anything about setting controls up etc, because everyones gear is different. One thing I do though is to use little or no curve, I try to get all the aircraft where I want them by reducing sensitivity. The brakes need some pretty drastic adjustments to make them work in any sort of a sane manner.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Totally...I think there are so many things to think of, Deadzone, Curvature, and Stick Extensions as well as the "Pilot Touch" on the controls. I see guys transition from the Hornet or Viper to the Mustang and they Ham-Fist the controls to the max trying to get Gen4 performance out of Gen 2 Fighters. For me, it was enjoyable years of dialing in my controls and learning on the fly...pun intended. There is no substitute for self discovery.

@bukhariali71 Год назад

The yaw axis for warbirds is totally over done in DCS. There are a few videos on RU-vid by real pilots showing the difference between DCS and actual planes like the Yak52 and TF51. IL2 GB in that context is closer to reality

@nickgrey4136 Год назад

Dear Sir, I have had the privilege of flying many types of warbirds and Spitfire including Mk I, II, V, IX, XIV and XVIII. Spits are all squirely on the ground but generaly easy to fly and extremely forgiving, however the very very fine use of braking is essential for succesful ground operations. Without fine braking you will either ground loop or nose over in real life guaranteed. I have personally witnessed this in the hands of a renowned test pilot who shall remain anonymous. The issue in DCS is the quality of the pedals available on the market making Spitfire operation extremely challenging and harder than in real life. Joysticks are also far too short and short stroked making all inputs somewhat unrefined. So there is truth in all the comments in this thread, but this is not due to the mathematical modelling of the aircraft. In order to make things easier we would have to 'detune' the torque and brake modelling of the spit to cater for the less subtle hardware solutions available on the market which I am not certain is desirable. For the record, flying warbirds precisely in DCS is much harder in general than in real life due to general incoherence of input methods and lack of seat of the pants feedback which are important to manage aircraft correctly. So to all of you who do succeed nevertheless in operating them safely, congratulations, you would do very nicely in the real thing.... Many thanks indeed and kind regards, Nick

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

DCS is just perfect to me. Keep going upward and onward sir. It’s a simulator in its own class, and personally, the only flight simulation that I want to fly. Often people complain about the realistic feel from their position of Documentary or Video Game Enthusiasts and compare DCS World to a simpler game that they have been conditioned to by dopamine to prefer over others. For me, the chemical jollies of my brain are founded on my own personal real world flight experiences. I understand that not everyone has the ability or proximity to go flying, but I often recommend that DCS players without flying experience, go take a 1 hour flight with an instructor and “fly the plane.” When I am in the Mustang or the Spitfire or the Dora, I’m not in DCS…I’m in the air! Thank you Mr. Grey for your help and let me know what I can do to support your team, ~ Juice

@nickgrey4136 Год назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Dear Sir, thank you for your message and for all your support. Onwards and upwards! Kind regards, Nick

@eatthisvr6 Год назад

do you have a landing tutorial?

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

We recommend @Reflected Simulations for the best tutorials. ru-vid.com/group/PLRzvLZpRXLADCnzsCA94Kx9fbeoGaQGeT

@kon1351 Год назад

Adjust your curves in wheel brakes .

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Gotcha thanks. I’ll recommend that for new users for sure. I’m going to keep my brake/paddel switch mapped as I have no problems with taxi in and ground handling with the Spitfire and it’s more close to the real thing being on the control spade column.

@TOMCATnbr Год назад

To be honest, even if i struggle a lot at first (and still today to land) the spit isn't that hard. i flew it a lot these days, as i'm playing the beware!beware! campaign right now, and that i've done the big show recently, and it's like any other plane on DCS: it require practice to master it. that's it.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

I feel the same way. Once I practice it and used patience with it compared to tricycle-geared jets, it became second nature. Question for you Tomcat-What did you set the Spitfire’s “Takeoff Assistance” settings to in DCS?

@c.g.262 Год назад

Not so hard, it’s taxis just like a MiG-21.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

I think so too...however, the MiG-21 is not a tail-wheel aircraft with it's inherent difficulties and the client should try this with "Takeoff Assistance" turned off all the way in the Special Settings under each warbird section. Huge difference that pedals make (when set up correctly) than that of "Twist Stick" controllers. For those guys who fly with Xbox/Play Station type gamepads, more power to ya. ;^) ~ Juice

@stratcat3216 Год назад

Lol the spit isn't hard.. you want hard try the Kurfurst :)

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

Cousins in the gear base but the Kurfürst at least has a tail wheel lock. ;^)

@henryofskalitz2228 10 месяцев назад

There's only one reason and it is because it's British

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 10 месяцев назад

True that...they fly on the opposite side of the airspace too.

@Bronco-1776 Год назад

Well...the real reason that the Spit is so hard to drive on the ground is because it was designed by the English, who at times are plagued by a sort of "national incompetence." You know like when they complained because the Normans came wanting take the throne of England in 1066 AD.. Or such as when they declared war on Germany in 1939 and kicked off the entire WWII thing, turning localized skirmishes into a world war.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP Год назад

😂

@BH-ro4ly 2 месяца назад

Its not hard its just a skill issue.

@AIRWARFAREGROUP 2 месяца назад

Totally agree. Once I learned the technique it's like second nature. I just have to remember to change my brain when I get get out of another airplane and get into the spitfire. My wife says it's pretty easy because my brain is pretty small and fits into my pocket.

@BH-ro4ly 2 месяца назад

@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I never found taxiing hard but landings where the main issue for me due to the narrow wheel base. I flew the MiG-21 before getting the spit which could be why I picked up the taxiing quicker (Its similar).