I was on the verge of converting to Islam until I saw these videos and really began to understand Christian history, those two went hand in hand to keep me in the faith ❤
Maybe you need deeper knowledge , you can search this film in search engine youtube This film about comparison ancient christianity & modern islam "Orthodox shahada Christian worship & the old testament"
@@LionOf.Christ you're right, and me leaving islam to follow Jesus Christ even though I'm from morocco and never left it in my life is the prove that you're right 🫠 internet will be one of the reasons why islam will be at the bottom after a few decades or centuries
@@LionOf.Christ explain why hordes of people are converting to islam every day then and why hordes of Christians are leaving Christianity everyday? The thing about Christians today is that you are so pathetic and blinded by secularism and your hate towards Islam, that you choose to ignore that the biggest threat to Christianity right now, is atheism! Not Islam. Christianity did NOT decline this fast during Islam's golden age. Christianity started to decline very fast when secularism and atheism became rampant and you Christians choose to ignore this. It is so pathetic to see you desperately attack Islam, because you are jealous of Islam and you don't dare to criticise or attack our common enemy which is secularism.
This poses the following problem aswell: -Allah promised that the Followers of Jesus would be dominant. if we, the Christians, are the dominant ones and thus are His true followers this makes Islam false because Christians believe in the divinity of Jesus. -But if the true followers of Jesus were basically forgotten and wiped out and the Injeel was corrupted beyond repair, then the Followers of Jesus never became dominant and thus the prophecy of Allah is false and never came to pass. Muslims also cannot argue that they are the true followers of Jesus because the Qur'an and Islamic Tradition and Jurisprudence do not preserve portion of the Injeel or the particular teachings of Jesus. By the Muslim own admittance, Jesus revelation was different to that what was given to Muhammad and was not a muslim in accoradance to orthodox muslim observance (Did not pronoucne Shehada, observed Ramadan and performed the Hajj for example)
" the Qur'an and Islamic Tradition and Jurisprudence do not preserve portion of the Injeel or the particular teachings of Jesus" Christians did a terrible job of preserving the teachings and works of Jesus, but it's somehow the fault of the Muslims. lol.
@@theologyroomThe New Testament has more manuscript copies than any work in ancient history (making the original documents easy to reconstruct), dating closer to the events than most ancient texts. I'd say they did a pretty decent job.
@@theologyroomTorah was well preserved. Yet Islam claims it was also corrupted beyond repair. New Testament/Injeel, in all languages, from byzantium greek to even KJV, in most cases similar. Yet somehow both greek and latin texts are "corrupted"
@@theologyroom Its muslims who make the claim that the Injeel was corrupted. We do not believe the Gospels were corrupted. Since it was Allah who revealed the Injeel and promised dominance to Isa's Followers it was Allah's Job to see that became a reality.
I remember when I was a Muslim I was trying to get closer to allah but it took Me 2 months to find Jesus and now that I let him in my life is way better
Muslims claim to revere Jesus but they - do not celebrate His birth - do not remember His death - do not know what He said or did because His record is lost or corrupted What a tragic religion. It admits it does not have Jesus' precious words yet claims to have the truth.
The bits of 'Jesus' rather Isa, they claim is a straight up shoplifting event from gnostic and false writings some centuries later. They're a very easily panicked / confused bunch. But then it is a very heavy mind control cult with extreme penalties.
What Muslims know: They do not celebrate because the exact date of his birth is unknown. They do not know exactly when he died. cause he not died They understand what he said from the Qur'an or Hadith. If you believe in the history that is told, it is important to recognize that history cannot be written solely from one perspective. As the verse in the Qur'an explains: "And because of their saying: 'Indeed, we killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,' even though they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but (they killed) someone who was made to look like Jesus to them. Indeed, those who disagree about (the killing of) Jesus are truly in doubt about who was killed. They have no certainty about who was killed, except following mere conjecture; they are not (also) sure that the one they killed was Jesus." (QS An-Nisa, verse 157) Many previous books of revelation have been corrupted because they were meant only for the people of that time, that's why God does not maintain its authenticity. The Qur'an is the only scripture whose authenticity has been maintained. Honoring Prophet Jesus (AS) according to the truth that aligns with reality is not an assumption
which birth you are talking about? in 25 december or 7 january? and why we should celebrate his death!!!! is that even logical to celebrate someone death 😂😂😂
@@aliakram830525 december date based on the perspective that the date is the same as the celebration of the sun of god during the Roman Empire before Christianity. in reality nowadays no one knows when
they do not deny everything you say about him they deny only his crucifixion and his apparent Godhood in the Bible. Jesus' teachings, miracles , and virtues are all stated in the quran
@@qlehp.546well they deny crucifixion, and as it mentioned in this video that make absolutely no sense, and somehow they also think Jesus will judge them
@@Ivan-cg2pd you can apply that logic to any text in any religious book and say it doesn't "make sense" because both books are brimming with miracles. if you mean that it's ridiculous then so is coming back from the dead right? exactly that makes no sense because both are miracles. Muslims don't deny the crucifixion they deny christ being the that was truly sacrificed.
@@LordePhantomno but ever since the current arch bishop of canterbury came Justin welby The church have gone off the teachings and is becoming more woke
@@LucasKM7 So I as a gay Christian should not exist to you? Or what is your take on gay Christians? And I’m not talking about the liberal churches that go way off the deep end. Just Christians that happen to be gay.
I have a query (perhaps you can do a video of it). Something that has recently bothered me is the idea that God sent Muhammad as the final, one true messenger of the Quran: the perfect word of God. This raises two questions. Firstly, how can God be so certain that his one true word won’t be corrupted again, which would necessitate him to send another word by another messenger? Secondly, if he can make it certain that it won’t happen again, why did he allow his word to become corrupted twice before?
Muhammad said he was the final prophet, Joesph Smith claimed the same thing. This is a problem, as both claimed the same thing but Mormons and Muslims aren't the same
The most baffling thing about this is that it's a problem that doesn't even exist if the Quran simply agreed with literally the one thing that everyone else, regardless of theology, agrees with about Jesus: that He was crucified.
At this point if they agreed Jesus was crucified, its committing shirk. But lets imagine its not: then prophet Jesus cant be lifted up to jannah to return again, because he is dead, so he has to be alive ... Which he cant because he is human only This makes Jesus sound like God so a clear no no in Islam haha
@meatballbi4330 broski being this blind wouldn't hurt you would it? Everyone knows that both in the Quran and In the bible Jesus was in heaven the highest of them all(together with God)the difference is in Bible Jesus is in the hand of God (I forgot which side but it showcase that he is equal to God)
Muslims "love" Jesus but dont agree with what He taught because His teachings largely go against Muhammed. Muhammed agreed that Jesus lived a sinless life. But also believes Jesus lied and blasphemed (by calling Himself Son of God and equal to the Father) which is a huge no-no in that region as we all know. So He lived sinless but not really....??? According to Muslims. Muhammed said that Jesus was a fellow prophet, but they had two conflicting doctrines. Yet....somehow Jesus is a Muslim? And NONE of the early Arabs saw this as strange.. Islam is just....idk man. It debunks itself.
“Do not call anyone on earth your father, for you have one Father, and he is in heaven” Matthew 23:9 Jesus makes it clear that we share the same metaphorical Father. If calling God Father makes you God, then there must be billions of Gods according to that logic.
If you look at even just purely Biblical Scholars (Bart Ehrman is the most obvious example) a lot of them agree that Jesus never actually said that he is God, and the Muslim view of him is that the doctrine of Jesus actually aligned itself with both the Torah and Quran that there is only one God and that he will judge us all in the end of times. John as a book is problematic since almost all of the quotations of Jesus saying he is God come from there even though there is another quotation where he directly calls himself only a prophet (i will look for it)
@@ryannathaniel9296 well the issue is more complex than that, the canonicity of the Gospels has changed and certain ones have been accepted and others rejected over the course of time but looking for the oldest sources at least there is some clear indication of what might have closer to the truth. If im not mistaken its the books of Mathew and Luke that make reference to an earlier source (known as Q by scholars), and all the quotes of Jesus from this earliest source mention nothing about his divinity but all about the coming Kingdom of God and to believe in the One True God before they are punished. In the end I think all the Gospels must be rejected as they have numerous contradictions (the various endings of Mathew is the first one I think of) but using them as a basis to try and see what Jesus might have actually said paints a very different picture than what later sources imply and one that aligns a lot closer with Islam
even in islam Jesus is better than muhammed Jesus his parents were mentioned by name, muhammad's parents were not. muhammed's parents are both in hell. momo was not allowed to beg for forgiveness for his father as it would not be granted. his mother was a disbeliever so she was in hell too. wheras Jesus' parents were both mentioned by name and were blessed by allah. in the quran it says that allah took Jesus to himself at his throne, whereas muhammed didnt even know what was going to happen to him when he died. even in islam, Jesus showed miracles whereas the same islam tells us that only allah can perform miracles, thus concluding that Jesus indeed is allah. muhammed is, according to islam, the perfect example for mankind but Jesus outshines him. muhammed also graped female slaves, he graped little girls, he had slaves, was a slavetrader, he traded 2 black slaves for 1 arab slave also showing how little islam thought of black people. bye mo mo
@@slythief5518 when you have no rebutal so you just spew ignorance yourself. repent and come to Christ, who actually answers prayers and actually saves you from hell. or join muhammed and his father the devil in hell. it's your call. i honestly hope you come to Christ.
@@GalliadII Satan cannot create, only distort. Evil cannot create, only distort what is GOOD and TRUE. That very distortion is what makes evil evil. Christ is king 👑 Glory be to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
Really strange thing I wonder how they are believing that god is Jesus ok? Than Jesus said worship my father? Than said worship me??? Like wth???? Can even god be a humen and die like us to sacrfice him self really??? So in this case i would say how a weak god cant protect his people
Most of people are just following their parents religion or because of the colonization. If we used your logic, then you are following the religion of the majority. Which means if you was in an old era of the history, you wouldn't believe in Christianity because it's not popular yet. Also islam is most growing religion this means if you was born in future, would you become a Muslim?
@lilxd1741 you make alot of sense.... but what dose that have to do with anything? Because the passage. Regardless of where u are in the world, it was stated. Matthew 24:14 which states “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” So that means quite literally everyone will hear the gospel . Dosent Matter where u were born . I mean look at Christianity today? Jesus managed to do all of this.
@@ronijoun2326 Okay, so. First, Jesus was God in human form, and the Son of God the Father. Jesus was NOT the Father, but is the Son, and is God. You are not your Father, but you both are humans and have the nature of a human. Jesus said "I and the Father are one." Also, Jesus is God incarnate. Come to Christ
I believe Jesus is who He said He is, so therefore we are who He says we are! "The son of God became man so that man can become sons of God" ~ CS Lewis
"I believe Jesus is who He said He is" Where did Jesus say that He is God or where He said that He is God in the flesh or where He said that He's the Word? No wonder the Christians can never quote Jesus to back up the Christian FAITH. In fact, the Christian FAITH made a L-I-A-R of Jesus of the Bible. Jesus preached and practiced 👉 Unitarian Vs Christian FAITH 👉 Trinitarian ✅ Jesus preached and practiced 👉 Unitarian Vs ❌ Your FAITH 👉 Trinitarian Jesus preached and practiced: Who is THE ONLY TRUE GOD? ✅ The Father ☝️ (SINGLE PERSON) (John 17:3) Who is the God of Jesus? ✅ The Father ☝️ (SINGLE PERSON) (John 20:17)
@@HotManJonah I also believe Jesus is who he said he is. A prophet of God and someone who does the will of God instead of his own will. Making him the definition of a Muslim.
@@whiteandblack2005 John 8:58 "Before Abraham was born, I Am." John 10:30 "I and The Father are one." John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life." Matthew 28:19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" Psalm 22 is a prophecy of Jesus. John 17:2-3 " 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." How could a prophet give eternal life? Why should we know The Father and Jesus Christ too? Even though Jesus is God, He is still a different person from the Father. When He was a human, He depended on The Father, And because he depended on The Father, He called The Father His God.
@@beastelena1698 So you've chosen to absolutely disregard the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible which I had already presented on this thread. You didn't even want to go near that. That's how much your FAITH d3sp1s3s the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible.
@@beastelena1698 Even if we go by your Church fed gymnastics of Oh as a man Jesus called the Father his GOD - THE ONLY TRUE GOD: The perfect man, your best example to follow is a UNITARIAN. The man Jesus is the biggest S 1 N N 3 R according to your FAITH.
And the bible also said jesus prayed to the father that the disciples would be one like he and the father are one so is he praying that the disciples would be gods?
@@zgamix Christian God and jesus his prophet and the disciples were one in the purpose which is to worship God alone with out the trinity , like all prophets before
The Quran is not treated by Jesus scholars (Christian or not) as a historical source about His figure-- the Gospels however, are treated as such, even if they disagree on some details, all Jesus scholars consider the documents as a whole to be reliable historical sources, and the Pauline letters too ! I loved when even Bart Ehrman basically shut Mohammad Hijab up about this topic. But funnily enough, even the islamic perverted version of Jesus is still basically Divine (completely sinless, had a virgin birth, creates life out of nothing and will come to judge-- just to name a few), and no wonder someone may end up worshiping a man who is literally sinless (who can be sinless but God, create life out of nothing, have a supernatural birth and judge the world at the end of times !??!).
"But funnily enough, even the islamic perverted version of Jesus" moses has a virgin birth in islam and does many miracles in islam aswell (just like in the hebrew bible), he is not divine either. also no (non-christian) jesus 'scholars' do not treat the gospels as a reliable historical source mainly due to the contradictions, they do sometimes use it as a frame though of what may have happened
@@mathewpt4478 see, you misunderstand that preserved has multiple meanings, his meaning is that old passages of the bible have not been destroyed, not that it has not undergone change or that it is reliable source about jesus life, you can see this as when ever they talk about 'them being preserved' they only talk about old manuscripts of the bible but not the modern day bible
@@ehannasir8464 Gospels are 1st century eye witness accounts, without them we don't know much about Jesus, so they are used as historical documents, even if atheists believe there are contradictions. A historical document doesn't need to be perfect to be reliable. No historian uses the criteria of a perfect text. I believe that there is no contradiction, but that is irrelevant. Even atheist Bart Ehrman believes this. The only debate is whether the sinoptics are prea 70 AD or after. Even if they are 70 AD, they are still 600 years earlier to Jesus than the Quran. No historian uses the Quran to learn stuff about Jesus. 600+ years in a different part of the world is completely unreliable.
@@MetroMan13 I mean it's true, falsely acussing someone commited shirk when they didn't is disrespectful, u and him are presupposing Christianity to be true which is why you're mocking us
@@scificyberNo, we mock you because you presuppose islam is true, even after seeing proof after proof Muhammad was merely a mad man, like the fact that he had Aisha, a 6 year old, as his wife, just because he (according to HIM only mind you) dreamt about her LMAO, a literal pdfile is your prophet
All my life i thought to myself "hey im a christian i worship jesus christ" then i found islam hung out with some muslims and thought to myself "hey islam and christianity is the same" skip to 3 months later "hey islam is false"
@@aliakram8305 On the contrary actually. Not three Gods, but one. That you speak of is blasphemy. Oh, and children DO believe in him! If my life is to say anything about it.
@@kingoffire105 if there is one god why they express him with trintity!!!? there are three gods in christianity the there one essence and three persons (gods) share it so its three if you are saying its one god then you believe in Sabellius heretic who believed there is one god with three different names
Their "prophet" literally says that the worst name in Islamic things is "king of kings". I wonder why people quick pointing at Talmud when mockery and insults towards Christ are openly practiced by demon poccessed "prophet"?
@@yohanneslong1970 What are you talking about? Islam honours Isa as a Prophet, peace be upon him. Mocking and insulting him would take someone out of the fold of Islam.
I was a Muslim 2-3 weeks ago. Then, I realized the truth. It's not too late for the rest of you. God knows you believe in him, he knows you've been deceived . You are not a traitor, you were simply misguided. There is no shame in acknowledging this and turning to Christ.
Be at Peace. There's no Jesus in Islam, no Yeshua the Messiah, there's a mythical Isa, a counterfeit of the King of Kings and LORD of Lords, Yeshua the Messiah, the only Living God incarnate.
Some Muslims say it's the Paul who "corrupted the message". But how could that even happen? Paul (as a faithful Jew) was persecuting the followers of Jesus for this very reason that they claimed he's the Son of God. If - let's say - they weren't seeing Jesus as God or the Lord and it was only Paul (who joined them later) who tried to set this new principle, why wouldn't they stop him? They could simply shut him up, as they were meeting him numerous times - especially Peter and James (first bishop of Jerusalem, "Lord's brother"). Why would the "true followers of the Book given to Jesus by Allah" even allow this idea to spread? Especially, since no one but them cared about it back then - for the next 300 years they were persecuted by both the Jews and the Romans and had to stay low. Not to mention - what was the reason (according to the Muslims) that Jews even wanted Jesus death? In the Quran they "laughted under the cross, saying they crucified Messiah". 1) if they knew he was Messiah (and Allah says they did), they'd never do any harm to him 2) if it was only Jesus, who said that he was Messiah or the Son of God (and he did say so, according to the 4 Gospels), then the Allah is lying. Otherwise Jews wouldn't even have the reason to crucify him.
Paul didn't even create the original message. He received it from the Church. The Corinthian Creed was created prior to his conversion so it never made sense to me that Paul supposedly 'corrupted' the message of Christianity.
how do we know they KNEW what paul was preaching? paul says to the jew i beame a jew and the greek i became a greek. meaning around peter and james he couldve pretended to be a believer but then around greeks corrupted the message. they tested paul for apostasy saying we HEAR your teaching people to forake(apostasize) moses. they didnt know everything he was doing or saying. writing was uncommon back then only few had access to. hence why he took the vow. paul himself says hes not under the law yet he takes a vow to prove he obeys the law? even when the vow makes you offer a sacrifice. paul taught we didnt need animal sacrifices yet he himself went and did it. proving his hyprocisy.
@@DaddyAZTL Dude... the moment they'd learn about such "schemes", they'd stop Paul from teaching, if these teaching wouldn't align with the teachings of people who knew Jesus personally. He was only 1 man after all, who btw. lived in poverty (which we can read in the "Acts"). And surely no-one would be including Paul's letters in their "Bible". The answer was so simple, yet it eluded you.
@@pawekarkosa3033 whos to say they didnt learn of pauls teaching during acts 21:22-26? and how could they stop him? by killing him? they already tried that during acts 21:30-31 but he used his roman identity to save himself. 2.the gentiles who didnt know what God said believed paul he himself says this " i am NOT an apostle to them( the actual 12 peter james etc) but to YOU (gentiles) i am one. showing they believed him to be one but he really isnt according to the 12. so the gentiles who outnumbers the jews simply added him in. because they didnt want to follow the laws. and paul gave them a way out. why do you think the Ebionites dont follow paul and claim he is a false prophet? Jesus was One man yet changed the world. so what if paul is one man? does that mean he cant trick many people? was not even mohammad one man?
@@DaddyAZTL yeah... So you are trying to convience us, that a faithful Jew, who was persecuting the early Christians for saying that Jesus is Son of God (=God himself) and who was putting them in jail and killing them, suddenly decided to start blaspheming himself and CONTRARY to what the Christians were teaching so far (with the goal to currupt their "original message"), he started to teach that Jesus is the Son of God.... About a guy (Jesus) whom he - the faithful and educated Jew - never met in person, so had no interest in making Jesus devine... Yes, it makes sense... The comparison to Muhammad is reather silly, since Muhammad made himself a central figure of his religion (no one was allowed to contradict his words, every one was supposed to follow his example, every one, who was opposing his, got a death sentence, the 20% of all war booty (khums) went to Muhammad, only Muhammad could have more than 4 wives, he was allowed to marry whomever he wanted, like his daughter-in-law etc.) and Paul was living in rather poor life, earning his living with making tents, also living in celibate. Why Muhammad invented the Quran and "Allah" (who was Muhammad's pen name) is rather clear. Why Paul, who was zelous and faithful monotheist Jew, who was putting "blaspheming Christians" in jail or even was killing them, suddenly joined them and started to preach that Jesus is the Mesiah and the Lord - this is not that clear. The only explanation is that he started to believe it himself.
I have wanted someone to make this video for a while, I hope it’s everything I wanted, when I was young I asked an imam about Jesus and because they believe he’s a great teacher and so I asked the imam about Jesus teaching he didn’t have much to say so I got a Koran and read it and it didn’t have much to say. so I was confused he’s a great teacher? Why didn’t you include his teachings?
They can't, His teachings d estroy I s l a m, they even had to change Jesus's name because it says everything I s l a m try to h i d e, Yehovah-saviour.
@@rightousnesspursuer6523If you read the Tanakh you will find multiple passages in which people are called the sons of God. This was the language of the Jews in their specific context. As a Muslim, I have no problem with a Jewish man 2000 years ago using the phrase “Son of God” or calling God the “Father”, as this was metaphorical. The problem arises when people take it out of that context and take it literally; this goes against Islam. Also, Arianism isn’t fully monotheistic anyways. Arius believed in a hierarchy within the trinity - which is a term, by the way, coined around 200 CE by a bloke named Tertullian. Arius argued that the Father created the Son, and the world through him. His arguments got cooked at the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, and it was confirmed that the Son is co equal and co eternal with the Father.
This was an absolute smackdown. On a sidenote, I love Muhammad, but only the fanfic version of my imagination where he was a Christian whose followers were all snakes who made up stories about him to justify their own sick desires. I am not really a fan of the muhammad of history or any medeival muslim tradition.
@@themiband0598 I think the case for an adiptionistic Christian heretic muhammad is actually something worth writing a fanfic about. A Christian preacher who starts his own school, mixing together rabbinic judaism and Christianty. However his followers wrote the quran from his teachings and adding in their own chapters and verses to justify whatever they wanted. The same for the hadith. This is why they had to conviscate much of the writings so as to standardize their fake religion, exactly what they accuse Christians of at the council of Nicea. If you want to make it "historical" then you can still make muhammad a conqueror. This sort of revisionism is being done by people like Jay Smith but I do have to say that my gut feeling is that they are doing some speculation. Robert Spencer's take on this with using the coins is very interesting.
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Muslims: Torah and Injeel was corrupted Quran: Torah and Injeel are the revealed Word of God (Q 3:3) Also Quran: The revealed Word of God cannot be corrupted (Q 6:115, 18:27)
As a Muslim scholar, I respectfully disagree with several claims made in this video about Islam's view of Jesus (peace be upon him): Islam's honoring of Jesus: 1.The Quran and Islamic tradition hold Jesus in high esteem as one of the greatest prophets. The Quran refers to him as "the Messiah" and "a word from Allah" (Quran 3:45). Islam teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin, performed miracles, and was a righteous servant of God. This respect for Jesus is fundamental to Islamic belief. 2.The message of monotheism: Islam teaches that all prophets, including Jesus, preached the same core message of monotheism. The Quran states: "And We sent not before you any messenger except that We revealed to him that, 'There is no deity except Me, so worship Me.'" (Quran 21:25). This continuity of message is central to Islamic theology. 3. Jesus's followers and their beliefs: The video claims that Jesus's followers immediately began worshipping him as divine. However, historical scholarship suggests that early Christian beliefs were diverse and evolved over time. The earliest Christian writings, such as Paul's letters, show a developing Christology rather than an immediate belief in Jesus's divinity. 4. The concept of tahrif (corruption): Islamic theology posits that the original message of Jesus was gradually altered over time, leading to the development of doctrines like the Trinity. This doesn't necessarily imply deliberate deception by Jesus's immediate followers, but rather a gradual shift in understanding over generations. 5. The crucifixion in Islamic thought: The Quranic verse (Quran 4:157) about Jesus's crucifixion is subject to various interpretations among Muslim scholars. Some interpret it as denying the crucifixion entirely, while others understand it as denying that Jesus wasn't killed by crucifixion, but someone else was made to resemble him. This nuanced understanding allows for various perspectives within Islamic thought. 6. The preservation of Jesus's teachings: While the video claims that Jesus's "real teachings" were completely forgotten, Islamic tradition holds that the core message of monotheism was preserved, even if details were lost or altered. The Quran itself is seen as a restoration of this original message. 7. Jesus's responsibility for later beliefs: The video's assertion that Islam considers Jesus the "worst person ever" for allegedly causing false worship is a misrepresentation of Islamic theology. Islam teaches that prophets are not held accountable for the misinterpretations of later generations. The Quran states: "And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 'O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'' He will say, 'Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right.'" (Quran 5:116). This verse emphasizes Jesus's innocence of such claims. 8. The concept of dominant followers: The interpretation of Quranic verses about Jesus's followers being "dominant" or "superior" (Quran 3:55) needs contextual understanding. Many Islamic scholars interpret this as referring to the spiritual superiority of true monotheistic belief, not necessarily worldly dominance. 9. Historical continuity of monotheism: While the video claims there was no one Muslims can identify as a true follower of Allah for 500 years, Islamic tradition recognizes the existence of monotheists (hanifs) and righteous people throughout history, even if they weren't formally part of an organized religious community. 10. The nature of prophetic missions: In Islamic theology, prophets are sent to guide people, but the ultimate guidance and misguidance of individuals is up to Allah. The Quran states: "Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills." (Quran 28:56). This principle applies to all prophets, including Jesus. 11. The development of Christian doctrine: The video oversimplifies the complex historical development of Christian theology. The formation of Christian doctrines like the Trinity and the nature of Christ occurred over centuries, involving numerous debates and councils. This gradual development is more consistent with the Islamic view of gradual deviation rather than an immediate, wholesale change. 12. The role of Paul: While some Muslims view Paul critically, the Islamic position on his role in early Christianity is not monolithic. Some scholars argue that Paul's teachings were misunderstood or altered by later generations, rather than being the source of deviation itself. 13. The concept of false worship: While shirk (associating partners with God) is indeed considered a grave sin in Islam, the responsibility for this is not placed on the prophets. The Quran repeatedly emphasizes that prophets will not be held accountable for the actions of those who came after them. 14. The nature of Jesus in Islam: Islam presents Jesus as a human prophet, miraculously born, who performed miracles by God's permission. This view is seen as honoring Jesus by recognizing his true status as a beloved servant and messenger of God, rather than diminishing him. The Quranic dialogue with Jesus: The Quranic verse (Quran 5:116) depicting a dialogue between Allah and Jesus is understood in Islamic exegesis as emphasizing Jesus's innocence of claims of divinity, not as a rebuke or shaming of Jesus. 15. Historical evidence and faith claims: The video's assertion that the "Islamic Jesus never existed" is a matter of faith rather than historical evidence. Both Islamic and Christian views of Jesus involve faith claims that go beyond what can be strictly historically verified. In conclusion, the Islamic view of Jesus is one of deep respect and honor, recognizing him as one of the greatest prophets while maintaining the core Islamic principle of monotheism. The video's characterization of Islam's view of Jesus misrepresents the nuanced and reverential position that Jesus holds in Islamic theology and tradition. Islamic scholarship has engaged deeply with these issues over centuries, producing a rich tradition of interpretation and understanding that respects both Jesus and the Islamic concept of tawhid (oneness of God) I hope to continue this interfaith dialogue respectfully and with context.
Your points did not really arise from the video. To make your arguments easier, use time references to identify your contentions. 15. Historical evidence and faith claims: The video's assertion that the "Islamic Jesus never existed" is a matter of faith rather than historical evidence. Both Islamic and Christian views of Jesus involve faith claims that go beyond what can be strictly historically verified. The gospel as recounted by the NT books are the primary records of the activities of Jesus in the way the Hadith are the historical records of the activities of Muhammed, but we have to acknowledge the biases of a specific religious perspective. However there are other independent historical evidences which back up these accounts such as -as Josephus records the claims made by certain Jews of a Jesus, Tacitus who recorded that Pontius Pilate crucified Jesus. This can be contra distinguished from the Islamic account claiming that Jesus was never crucified. 3. Jesus's followers and their beliefs: The video claims that Jesus's followers immediately began worshipping him as divine. However, historical scholarship suggests that early Christian beliefs were diverse and evolved over time. The earliest Christian writings, such as Paul's letters, show a developing Christology rather than an immediate belief in Jesus's divinity. This did not really address the issue presented. The video said, Islamic cannot bring any evidence of any true worshipper of it's own version of Jesus. To controvert, you should for instance show that there was indeed a record of these true followers of Jesus as described by the Quran: Are they 1. The Gnostics Ebionites Pauline Christians Rabbinic Judaism Who are they? If you can bring a point from the video, I am ready to have a respectful discussion if only it is from the points as raised in the video
every human is born sinless. thats not special to jesus. and all prophets are sinless. that isnt special to jesus either. And him being born of a virgin is because hes a prophet and prophets are special.solomon could speak to animals, moses turned his staff into a snake. prophets do miracles. they are prophets. its their job.
@@roaaali8009 the crazy thing I've found about all Muslims in this comment section is that they have their own way of thinking that Allah would do this or that and if. They were to tell eachother these answers they would call eachother heretics.Truly 😂 John 8:44 KJV - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1. Ok first of all what is "muqilisms", do meant to say muslim? 2. We as a Muslim trust that Jesus didnt die as it was kept in heaven until the dawn of time.
ah, unfortunately the research wasn't complete. I believe you skipped on why Jesus was raised to the heaven instead of being left to die on the cross. Remember that there's still a role for him sometime before the end of time.
Oh right I forgot Jesus is coming back to judge the Christians because he's mad at them for worshiping him even though it's his fault yeah that doesn't help bud
Saying Paul is the one who created Christianity didn't make sense. 1). He is an devout Jew and when he heard a group of people that called a dead carpenter/rabbi as "God", he didn't like it, it is blasphemy to the Jewish teachings. 2). He is the first person to persecuted these people because of being heretics. 3).He get permission to the Jewish higher-ups to persecuted these people. 4).The Jews surprised that this person switch side for unknown reason. 5). Bro's Roman Citizenship was demolished because of his newly-found belief. 6).He get Death Threats and when he was been stoned many times. 7).He was been executued by the Roman Empire because the Jewish higher-ups bribe the Roman Empire politicians to kill him. 8).How can he made Christianity if the disciples made it first and why he will not be enraged to this group of people if these people didn't worship a person? Doesn't make sense right?
I was an ex muslim. Let me tell you, Quran has many errors, and it was because thee knowledge of Muhammad about religions were incomplete. Another thing is, the Quran and Hadith claim that Injil (the bible) have many errors becauss it was corrupted. But I think there are no reasons for the bible to be corrupted, especially parts about books in old testament and new testament. Another problem that i see is muslims usually don't read/know about the bible at all, and i think this is because they see bible corrupted (even tho they respect it). I had a small bible, and my muslim mother took it from the ground and put it on a hugher ground and told me to not disrespect god's words. Still, i can't see any reason to not appreciat the cultures we have from Islam and Chritianity. I study both of them, and i enjoy it a lot.
>There's no reason to believe that it was corrupted Bro the earliest manuscripts found have stuff missing from newer versions of the bible. Plus there's no original manuscripts from the time of Jesus
Hey man can you please explain to me where the Quran was corrupted? If you want an example of where the Bible has been corrupted the ending of Mark versus 9 to 20 was added 200 years after the Bible was already created some Christian Scholars claim that it was originally marked work and they had to re-add it in but it makes no sense because the writing style is different and because it had no connection to the original bible.
@heisvi9317 my ideas are closer to what Bauer said about the New Testament. I mean, the texts of the New Testament, for example, the Gospel of Matthew, were not in their original form by the time they reached the modern period. But this is different for the Quran. I think the Quran is heavily changed by Uthman, the third Rashidi Khalife. He burned the other Qurans, and gathered a group of Hoffaz (those who saved the Allah words in their memory) and Kottab (those who wrote the words of Allah) to write a more trustful version of Quran. It just started the first fitna, and also the shia Muslims were angry because they did not include the verse of velayat in this new Quran. What I am saying is that both holy books have many errors, and many philosophers and thinkers heavily criticize them both logically and historically.
@@pirate_thatcher to be be honest man and I mean no disrespect by this I see most Muslim apostates just seemed to have shity parents. I mean my mother was the exact opposite of your parents she encouraged me to read the Bible which I am doing now and the more I read it the more I follow islam.
@@pirate_thatcher the reason why I believe that the Quran is still authentic to this day is because uthman burned all the fake copies. After the prophet Muhammad died there was a bunch of people who sprung up claiming to be Prophets and they brought a bunch of fake verses of the Quran that they claimed they got. Uthman and the rest of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad all memorized the verses of the Quran and whatever they didn't recognized they burned. Keep in mind this is like 20 different people that memorized this book and they all verified the verses that were in the original.
Why Jesus is messiah, not Muhammad. This is in the Tanakh, before the New Testament, it was prophesied that He would be pierced and mourned by man for generations… Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication, so that they will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son”.
so, according to Islam, Jesus DID die. But then, Islam also claims that Jesus did not die and was taken to Heaven by Allah. I.E., Islam is actually filled with contradictions.
@@Jesusistheway5724 dude i speak arabic and it says i will raise you. word of "death" or "die" isn't mentionned anywhere. but this is actually crazy cause the bible was written in armagniac but the oldest bible we have is in greek. while quran was written in arabic and still is preserved in arabic
An important discussion related to this is the historical fact that many muslim commentators believed the Quran when it said that Jesus' disciples and Paul accurately reflected Jesus' teachings. It is not until later do they come to terms with the idea that the Bible simply contradicts the Quran. So, Muslim scholars eventually felt for consistency sake to reject the statements of the Quran and their tradition saying that those that became uppermost where true followers of Jesus. Islam has many major plot holes.
I suggest contacting someone very knowledgeable on islam when learning about it. This is not said to offend anyone, but if you really want to learn islam these kinds of videos aren't what you should be looking for.
@@mathewpt4478it had nothing to do with the jews? You can say that it had nothing to do with a majority of Jews but that's just a flat out lie the Pharisees and Judas both sold out Jesus to the Romans it's all of their responsibility
“And if Allah had willed, they would not have associated others with Him. And We have not made you a guardian over them, nor are you a manager over them.” Al-An’am, verse 107 The messenger is not responsible for controlling people’s hearts, as guidance and success are solely in the hands of Allah Thank you for strengthening my faith 🙏
@@yeetthegargantuanleviathan6216 yea no. U have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. We do not offer the Sacrifice to the Blessed Mother, we only venerate Her. Imma just leave this here for all of you Low Prots. We do not worship Mary or the Saints. We venerate them at different levels. We do not pray “to” them in the sense u think. We ask them for intercession and prayer. Because your “movement” has no understanding of historical Christian worship, you do not understand that u do not worship God, you only venerate Him. Singing songs and preaching isnt worship. The Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ. Early Church Fathers are VERY Catholic. The Reformation is literally just the revival of multiple early heresies (to include Arianism, Nestorianism, and Gnosticism). Any amount of the reading of history leads one to The Church. There is only One, headed by Christ, that is, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. As a former Low Prot, I implore you all to do some research. Like, any amount of it.
Hey Testify, can you do a video on how there was an increase in knowledge that came out of Islam such as the math concept of Algebra and the Islamic Golden Age even though Islam is false? I need some solid arguements to rebuke family apologetics.
@@mathewpt4478by that logic Karl Benz didn't invent the car and Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb because people made prototypes of their inventions. Nobody invented anything by your logic because invented everything.
@@Michael-zi3kkHe claims the Persians Greeks and Indians founded them. Not that they had prototypes. Your comment doesn't properly address what they said.
@@rightousnesspursuer6523 they didn't found them they just laid the foundation. It's like crediting the inventor of the wheel with the invention of the car. Sure a wheel is an important part of the car but the wheel is not the entire car there's other stuff that comes with it.
Surah 5:116 is the biggest error in the Quran, when was Mary ever commanded to be worshipped as a God by Jesus, muslims will probably respond to this by stating that there were very small (heretic) sects that worshipped her as a Goddess, but still, the Quran says "Jesus" commanded this, not some group of people who made this belief up.
@@mariozakhem5988 the same way people back then lied about jesus "commanding them to worship him" some also lied about him also "commanding them to worship his mother too".how can this be a mistake ? just because some lied about him asking to be worshiped doesn't mean some others didn't lie about more stuff ? i thought christians were smarter than that
surah 61:14 "God said, ‘Jesus, I will take you back and raise you up to Me: I will purify you of the disbelievers. To the Day of Resurrection I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieved. Then you will all return to Me and I will judge between you regarding your differences." dude stop lying that not the translation, it said there are dominant(better) than people who do not believe
@@yeahyeah8240 Surah 5:116 is the biggest error in the Quran, when was Mary ever commanded to be worshipped as a God by Jesus, muslims will probably respond to this by stating that there were very small (heretic) sects that worshipped her as a Goddess, but still, the Quran says "Jesus" commanded this, not some group of people who made this belief up.
@@mariozakhem5988 I don't why you commented this it's not related to video or what I said. And as you there are many stupid sects in religions, so it might be such one in that time. While in 21 century we Mormon and ismaelieh it's not out of possiblity
Hey Testify can you make a Video about the Apostle Paul is Messanger of Allah according to the Earliest Muslims scholar But Muslims reject Paul and call him a False prophet because the LGBTQ say so. And both at them twist Paul letters to fabricate Contradiction between Jesus and Paul. Can you make it🙂
That is paradoxical. The LGBTQ are not keen on him because he's not keen on sexual relations outside a traditional understanding, e.g. Romans describes such things as part of the "fall" of our whole race, although its not singling out one sin really, just saying we've all got sin problems, also someone who is dating his stepmother is strongly sanctioned by Paul but was later restored. In contrast the muslims think Paul was too lax, in saying gentiles don't have to perform the Mosaic law, but they misunderstand his teaching.
i am a atheist but, quran came after the bible according to islam, and thus when allah says "will make your believers superior" he is reffering to the islamic interpretation present than rather the biblical interpretation of then. Who promotes allah, so when he reffers to jesus he instead means allah, because both literally derive the same conclusion.
Randomly, this video reminds me of this Bollywood movie called “Oh My God”. I would recommend making the time to check it out, it might explain some of the Quran’s point of view. Great movie btw, I think you will like it!
glad you think so, but the algorithm says people were skipping past it compared to the last vid, and I think this one is even more important than the last one. So it's changed for now.
Surah 5:116 is the biggest error in the Quran, when was Mary ever commanded to be worshipped as a God by Jesus, muslims will probably respond to this by stating that there were very small (heretic) sects that worshipped her as a Goddess, but still, the Quran says "Jesus" commanded this, not some group of people who made this belief up.
I am a muslim, we love Jesus (peace be upon him) so much because we understand how much he suffered due to the disbelievers. How can you blame Jesus for the disbeliever's actions of making him a god? Each and every prophet did his absolute best to make his followers believe in the concept of there being one god only, how can you blame the prophet himself, despite all his efforts, for other people's mistakes?
My question is, why did Allah make someone look exactly like Jesus so that millions of people would be deceived and worship Jesus. Another problem is that people thought the substitute Jesus, who looked exactly like the real one, was resurrected. Why deceive people, not just people millions and billions of people, and then call those people Allah deceived the worst of creatures.
@@iam_stephanos excuse me since when if someone was raised from the dead then he deserves worship ? ezra from the book of ezra according to my understanding Allah raised him from the dead after 100 years , so then shall we all go worship ezra ? 🫤
@@iam_stephanos and why o why did he call you that ? you want to bring me a heart attack or what ? you believe for example that his messiah is cur,sed in the bible when only sat,an is curs,ed in the Quran by God and you want that he would say my chosen ones ?
@@iam_stephanos his righteous good moral messiah his return resem,bling a th,ief in the bible and you want him to say my chosen ones? Th,ief Christian ?
1. The Hanifs The Hanifs were a group of monotheists in pre-Islamic Arabia who rejected idolatry and believed in the worship of one God (Allah). They followed the tradition of Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) and were neither Jews nor Christians. One notable Hanif was Zayd ibn Amr, who lived during the time of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ but before his prophethood. He rejected idol worship and sought the religion of Abraham. 2. Jews and Christians Jews and Christians during this period are considered by Muslims as followers of earlier revelations from Allah (the Torah and the Gospel). Though their scriptures were believed to have been altered over time, they still followed monotheistic teachings. King Negus (Najashi) of Abyssinia (Ethiopia) is an example of a Christian ruler who was sympathetic to the teachings of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ and accepted Islam later during the Prophet's time. 3. Notable Figures Bahira the Monk: A Christian monk in Syria who is said to have recognized the signs of prophethood in the young Muhammad ﷺ when he traveled with his uncle's caravan. Salman the Persian: Although he converted to Islam during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, Salman was previously a seeker of truth who left Zoroastrianism and sought Christianity before finally accepting Islam. 4. Arabian Christians There were Christian communities in Arabia, especially in regions like Najran, where a significant Christian population existed before the advent of Islam. These Christians followed the teachings of Jesus, though in later Islamic theology, they are seen as having deviated from the pure monotheism of earlier prophets. While Islam as a formal religion had not yet been revealed in the time frame you mentioned (40 AD - 600 AD), these individuals and groups are considered followers of Allah in the sense that they adhered to monotheistic principles that align with Islamic beliefs.
how does this in any way disprove the arguments in the video? The Qur'an pretty clearly seems to affirm Jews and Christians, and not Hanfis or other minor sects. This is just a leap you are making
@@Nobody-ph8js In Islam, God’s original messages, including those given to prophets like Moses and Jesus, were perfect. However, Islamic teachings hold that human handling over centuries allowed certain alterations in earlier scriptures. This isn’t a critique of the divine message itself, but rather of its transmission over time. Islam considers the Quran the final revelation, with unique measures taken to preserve it precisely as revealed, including memorization and written records from the start. As for Jesus, he’s actually one of the most revered prophets in Islam, not a ‘failure’ by any means. Muslims believe he was chosen by God, preached monotheism, performed miracles, and will return to fulfill God’s purpose of restoring justice. To Muslims, his life represents success, not failure, aligning with the core of Islamic beliefs.
@@7urak Good question! My aim wasn’t necessarily to dispute the video directly but rather to provide context. The Quran acknowledges Jews and Christians as 'People of the Book,' affirming their monotheistic roots and their original guidance from Allah through the Torah and the Gospel. The Quran also recognizes that some individuals, even outside formal religions, sought the monotheistic message of previous prophets, like the Hanifs who followed the tradition of Prophet Ibrahim. They are relevant here because they represent early monotheistic seekers in Arabia who rejected idolatry, in line with the core message of Islam. While the Quran highlights Jews and Christians, Islamic tradition respects figures like Zayd ibn Amr and Salman the Persian, who were monotheists before Islam's revelation, showing that monotheistic belief was present, even outside the larger groups. This isn’t a 'leap' but rather reflects the diversity of people seeking God sincerely in different forms, which Islam acknowledges. Hope that clarifies!
And dont forget the Injeel AND Torah, which have "no historical record", existed and was with the Jews and Christians (quran 7;157) and written in a book! Also that oart where muhammad can verify himself in the previous scriptures is only possible if they had it (also also note that word SCRIPTures) So this book existed for 600 years alongside the bible and Torah and was a completely separate to the Bible and Torah we have today, but allah never mentions it! Cause remember none can change allahs words
you are my man Testify. When i was a child, i used to read, surf the web about the religions. But i sometime lose my faith in Jesus, i sometime read a heresy or occultism. And i even had a conservation with an Islam, that guy like trying to mock my faith because of my lack english grammar and knowleadge ( he was my english teacher) and i couldn't say anything . I had been being a choir boy so i went to the church everyday. I helped the father to prepare the mass but sometime i didn't pay antention to it. But now, i have just finished 12 grade. I'm now study at university. When i first saw your video, i was like " wow, there are still some believers who are better than me", and with your video, i have learned a lot. Now i am learning cadidate house ( i don't know how call that in english) that belong to the seminarian of the diocese, this is my first year in the journey of becoming a priest. Thank you so much. Hope you can upload more video
Notice how many of the people in the comment section complements over someone who thinks in "this guy's" interpretation of the Quran for some reason is "more credible"????? No one views Jesus PBUH the worst person ever You replacing words that don't even correlate to basic English languages is kinda sad Take for example we honor Jesus Ofc we do, we don't worship him Theres a difference in that. Contradictory video
@@calonarang7378 yes there is, if you properly study Arabic, adding different certain lines that make up the word. that's called 'Tajweed' where is perfects the recitation or word meanings See how I provided at least proof while you make a claim with no proof
@@RaifX39 That doesn't prove a dialect Barrier. Thats just dancing around the topic while point at a vague example. There are translation Difficulties but no Barriers. That is a myth.
Deen's response will be that Jesus's followers distorted his message and therefore they cannot be considered true followers, and therefore islam is true
Another thing, how do the apostles go from supposedly "Allah is God" to Jesus saying "Im God" ? That wouldnt be distortion, that would be just being worse than stupid, you would have a dude doing miracles saying "Worship Allah, im not him mkay ?" And his followers be like "herp derp, all hail Jesus !!!". If they believed Jesus to be important (which if they called him god in the distortions, they did) you would think they would really take it seriously when he supposedly said Allah is God. Or maybe Jesus Is God, the Apostles were right, and Allah doesn't exist, who knows
@@newme1589 I mean, that's the hubris of human (mostly the Romans). The Romans worship multiple deity and they want to integrate this new religion that's quickly gaining a _lot_ of influence. But this new religion monotheism believe doesn't fit with Roman polytheism doctrine. So they create the Trinity.
0:54 superior TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE 0:59 dominant AGAINST THEIR ENEMY 1:25 which is why allah then sent muhammad pbuh to clear the record after nobody was able to follow properly this video is nonsense
Christianity is a bigger failure because the New Testament is not his words also, if you claim that Quran is not his words. You are so pathetic while you are trying to falsify something you don't know about.
Bro, jesus(pbuh) has done his job, and his totally innocent from the ones who worship him and if you know, there actually were Christians and jews who worshiped only a one god(allah)before the islam came and they were living in arabia but there all have been converted to islam because islam's ideology was so similar to the ideology of that jews and Christians and they were called in the Quran:the people of the book(the jewish real book).
Jesus as a ‘failure’? That’s rich coming from someone who probably can’t even get their facts straight. In Islam, Jesus is honored as a prophet, not a failure! Maybe you should focus on learning more about your own beliefs before throwing shade at others.
1)the Romans say that Jesus or isa (as) died but Allah send I look like and he took isa (as) to paradise and he will come back to defeat the antichrist dajjal. 2)the Romans told the disciples did you call Paul and all of the others that he died and he come back from his grave and go to heaven so ist the Romans fault. 3)is showing the wrong symbol of Islam it's not the crescent it's actually white and black flag 🏴🏳️. 4)there is two types of Muslims one is the clown second is good and there's more clowns then good Muslims but no worries when the Messiah isa (as) comes back so everything will come back to normal except some other things like the antichrist,gog and magog etcetera and may Allah guide you to the truth amin.
@@mathewpt4478 I am a Christian. I watched some Dean response videos and they are responses to some of testifies videos, which is why I would like to see testify counter refute him.
Like a Man smoking = [God] blows a puff[Holy spirit] into a jar[Jesus] then closes it. That is what we believe in. Not (father, mother, son) bull honky. As Jesus[Ye'sHuaH] said: "Go now and make Followers. Baptise them in the name of the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit."
Years ago in my community (Sioux city,Iowa 🇺🇲) we had no Muslims.....now a lot, mostly Somalis 🇸🇴 ...the WHY they are HERE is the story of the majority of the Islamic world (third world FAILED states) So anyway I used to work with them at Tyson foods (food company) they would pray like Muslims just BEHAVE AND LIVE the opposite 🤣 So your comment means NOTHING 🤣🤦♂️
@@TestifyApologetics superior doesnt necessarily mean in size. it could mean in power or it coulld mean superior spiritually or superior because they have allah
But how would that be Jesus's fault? In Islam he's not all-knowing so he wouldn't know what people would do after he thought he was going to be crucified.
Well, the Islamic Jesus ramains at his faults, even if you couln't have know, he still failed to deliver the right message, that means he prophecied wrong, thus mean the point of the video still stands
@@Nilucki that's not what it means Jesus brought the right message it's not his fault the people misconstrued it. By your logic the Jesus of the Bible failed because he failed to bring the right message to Judas.
@@Michael-zi3kk 1. So tell me, if the Islamic Jesus brought the right message, why some people saw him as the Son of God and God who chose to assume human form and become an example for us and others saw him as a blasphemer since he proclaimed to be God? Because it's very hard that more than 5000+ people could have changed the messagge to this status that is now. 2. There is enough textual evidence that proves the rielability of the statements that Jesus made, and if you don't believe me, look at the 25'000 manuscripts or just listen to scholars who have studied history and religion and they all accepted the fact that Jesus was real(not the Islamic one), that he actually rose from the dead, that he actually did and said the things he did etc, there is historical, geographical and textual proof that make our Lord and Savoir Jesus Christ rielable. 3. Judas chose to betray Jesus but after he realized his wrong doings and understood he betrayed God, he felt so sad, that he fell into depression and hang himself, so basically your point does not stand and also it doesn't matter at all in the debate🤷♂️
@@Nilucki if we use your logic lil bro then moses was also a bad prophet who failed to fulfill his purpose and created the jews instead there for hes a bad prophet too and it's his fault
@@Nilucki l can answer this , like the sofes that claim they follow Islam when they made prophet Mohammed a god , its the past peoples who made this desire to be mis,lead
1:24 I commented once before on the your video but it seems you didn't get the message. The correct terms to use to refer to Christians from the 1st - 7th century is Catholic Christians or Early Christians The Early Christians were called the Catholic Church ever since 110AD when Church Father St. Ignatius of Antioch began to use the term. Meanwhile the term Orthodox Church didn't come into use until the early 4th century, and even then they were still in communion with Rome until the Great Schism in 11th century 900 years after the Church had already been called the Catholic Church. So no, it's not accurate to refer to Christians from the 1st - 7th century as "Orthodox Christians" because that term didn't exist for half of that time period and the Orthodox Church itself didn't become an institution independent of Rome until the 11th century.
He's using the term with a lowercase o, in terms of proper doctrine/belief/teaching - so "orthodox" is more accurate. "catholic" or universal is more accurate for the Church and not just what was preached
This is the most cope ever he doesn't use the term catholic BC the word catholic today refers to Roman Catholics and the Roman Catholic church didn't exist for the first 1000 years of Christianity while the church was catholic it wasn't ROMAN catholic it The church wasn't orthodox in name but in doctrine ORTHODOX just means correct Roman Catholics didn't exist in the first 1000 years of Christianity and if it did please show me the pope as defined in Vatican 1 in the first 1000 years
L’une des plus grandes tromperies de l’islam est de prétendre que Issa dans le coran serait le même que Jésus des évangiles. Voyons tout ce qui fait qu’on ne peut pas confondre Issa et Jésus : Jésus a pour père Dieu (filiation spirituelle), Issa n’a pas de père Jésus a pour mère Marie (filiation biologique), Issa a pour mère Meriem soeur d’Aaron et de Moïse (qui vécut 1300 avant ! ) Jésus (Yassou en arabe) veut dire « Dieu sauve » , Issa ne signifie rien en arabe Jésus nait dans une étable , Issa sous un palmier Jésus a envoyé l’Esprit de Dieu sur ses disciples mission accomplie, Issa n’a rien envoyé mission ratée Jésus annonce des faux prophètes après lui, Issa annonce un prophète appelé Ahmed Jésus n’a rien laissé d’écrit et les 4 évangiles ont été écrits bien après sa mort, Issa a reçu l’évangile (Injil) Jésus dit qu’il est le Chemin, la Vérité et la Vie, Issa dit qu’il est un serviteur d’Allah (un dieu qui guide et égare qui il veut) Jésus et le Père sont en absolue confiance, ils sont Un , Issa subit un interrogatoire de la part du dieu Allah (5.116) Jésus est mort cruxifié, Issa s’est fait remplacer sur la croix par un innocent Jésus est ressuscité des morts, Issa a été enlevé de sa vie terrestre Jésus parlait en araméen et hébreu, Issa parle un dialecte arabe Jésus est juif, Issa est musulman Jésus fait des miracles qu’après son baptême à 30 ans, Issa fait des miracles dès le berceau Jésus reviendra en gloire et éliminera lui-même ses ennemis, Issa reviendra précédé du Madhi qui combattra pour Lui Jésus reviendra prendre avec lui tous ses disciples, Issa reviendra pour briser la croix et tuer les porcs. CONCLUSION : Jésus est un personnage historique, Issa est une légende, une fiction pour ceux qui préfèrent croire au mensonge.
You are forgetting the Nazarenes, the Ebionites- These groups are not well known because none of their own teachings survived, But scholars agree that they kept mosaic law, albeit with some modifications under Jesus, believed him to be the Messiah, but did not worship him - seeing him as a prophet. They never expanded out of the Levant, and seem to disappear from the historical record in the 4th century.
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Acts of Apostles was written in 62 AD exactly. We know because of the events described end in 62 AD, but don't mention events in later the same year. Acts of Apostles tell that Jesus had rised from the grave, and are continuation of the Gospels. Old Testament = Prequel Gospels = The main story Acts of Apostles = Sequel Apostolic Letters = Authors notes Apocalypse by St. John = Epilogue
You are the worst,how could you say that we Muslims think Isa(Jesus) PBUH is the worst prophet?! We don't all the prophets were extraordinary,we love all of them and Isa(Jesus) was one of the best, those who want to convert to Islam, please don't listen to the nonsense of this guy, instead seek better knowledge through books, fellow Muslims, Imams, Sheikhs,Revert And Convert Stories,they are the ones who are reliable.
Okay first of all you don’t even celebrate Jesus’ birth, his death and resurrection. He caused 3 billion people to have faith in him and not Allah. I don’t even understand why you guys “love” him, it should be the opposite, even if the prophets were only there to guide people. That still doesn’t erase the fact that Jesus in Islam failed to deliver the message of Allah. I mean is it really a misunderstanding at this point when the eyewitnesses and all 12 of his disciples believed that he is God in human flesh and that he overcome death, because he is the “Alpha and omega”. I mean wouldn’t Jesus in Islam fix this by telling them thats not the case, why would he go and spread the word that he is God, if he wasn’t?
@@Solaris-cu1bz Just because we don't "celebrate him" as you do, doesn't mean we don't consider him a great prophet,we teach our children about his story,so is Mariem's(Mary) and they are fascinated by his tell,not to mention he never asked to celebrate his birth,no he left behind an important message to us and we carry it out,as an homage to him and that is enough.
@@Solaris-cu1bz Isa(Jesus) is not god,but his humble prophet and apostle,also I don't see in the Bible that he claimed himself to be "God" and that he should be worshiped.
Jesus never commit sin so Allah hate Jesus and turn Him into the Worst Prophet Ever Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger having said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin >
Which just further proves Allah is actually evil. In Christianity, Jesus came down to Earth because He loves us. He was sinless because He did something that we can never do: keep the Law perfectly. Died on the cross for our sins because He loves us so. But Allah straight up hates us, because if we "don't sin", then Allah will have us killed. Therefore, it's almost like Allah WANTS you to sin, instead of teaching moral perfectionism, which is what Islam teaches though. Not only does it prove Allah is evil, but also that Islam is contradictory.
What are you on about? Allah kills you for not sinning and replace you with people who sins. Isn’t that like killing innocent people for literally no valid reason whatsoever. What are you trying to prove here that Allah is the devil?
