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@wfqsfg 8 месяцев назад

I lived in both Northeast Florida and Southeast Georgia. For the longest time the Falcons were the team for the state of Georgia. When the Jaguars arrived much of Southeast GA became Jaguars fans simply because they were much closer compared to Atlanta. The locals were excited to have an NFL team an hour or less away. I was real curious how this was going to work. Jacksonville is a fickle city made up of native Floridians, transplants and Navy families. I remember a few seasons in there was a huge no show from season tick holders because the temp on game day was 45 degrees, too cold for Floridians. The local newspaper did an article on this. Way back in the day the Dolphins were the only professional sports team in the state. All of Florida were Dolphin fans. Jacksonville is spread out. The downtown is nothing with part of it being run down. Jacksonville is like a huge suburb with a downtown. There isn't really much to do or see there. Crime has gotten worse.

@scottfarmer8758 8 месяцев назад

I heard that when Jacksonville hosted the Super Bowl in 2005 they had to dock cruise ships because they didn't have enough hotel rooms. Probably the reason why they haven't gotten another Super Bowl.

@Graphics_Card 2 месяца назад

The city politicians suck there

@InfectiousGroovePodcast 4 месяца назад

Not a football fan but I moved to Jacksonville almost 2 years ago. Prior to moving all I kept hearing was "one of the largest cities in the US!", so I'm glad you covered that aspect of it. I'll say this: even though I'm not an NFL fan, the people in this town sure are passionate about the Jaguars!

@davelb87 8 месяцев назад

Also worth noting that broke/greedy owners in established markets fought against Baltimore, St. Louis, and Tennessee’s bids for reasons that became quite obvious shortly after the expansion decision was made…

@gbalph4 8 месяцев назад

I have cousins in Jacksonville and they are huge Jags fans. They even went to the Rams home game in 2021 when the Jags were there.

@archstanton6102 8 месяцев назад

Went to Jacksonville at Thanksgiving 2021 and it is an empty city. So little to do there. Stadium and game was ok, seats cheap, prices reasonable.

@danielbowden6330 8 месяцев назад

Same. I was there this summer, not very busy.

@archstanton6102 8 месяцев назад

@@danielbowden6330 i ended up visiting to zoo and then a small but fascinating distillery.

@theshape5187 8 месяцев назад

@@archstanton6102 do you go swimming I hear they have nice beaches tho ??

@archstanton6102 8 месяцев назад

@theshape5187 i didn't have my own transport, so was limited to city. But i did hear about the beaches later.

@dvferyance 8 месяцев назад

Indianapolis is an empty city so does that mean they shouldn't have a team either?

@RioluLucario1994 8 месяцев назад

It's less about the Jaguars themselves and more about the fact that Florida and GA are SEC territory. The NFL will always play second fiddle to college football

@clarencedolan699 8 месяцев назад

You can’t be serious. I’ve lived in Jax 20 years, and the Jags have waaaaaaaay more support here than any college team. It’s not close either….I’m not a Jags fan, but the locals love them here….when they’re are winning, it’s easily the hottest ticket in town.

@paulkoza8652 4 месяца назад

This is true.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@clarencedolan699 They only have support when they are winning. Ask most people who live there who their favorite team is and they will say some other team. Also there is way more college support for the Seminoles, Gators, and Hurricanes not to mention other SEC teams.

@clarencedolan699 2 месяца назад

@@mizer9510 I’ve lived here for 20 years. I don’t have to ask anyone. The Jags are easily the number one team in Jax and the number one attraction. It’s not close.

@clarencedolan699 2 месяца назад

@@mizer9510 Most SEC teams don’t have an NFL team anywhere near those cities, that’s why those college teams have so much support. I’m from ATL and the Falcons are a much bigger draw than the Dawgs and I love my Dawgs, but in the ATL, it’s Falcons country and of course, no one roots for Tech. All you have to do is look at the TV ratings. NFL is the King and that’s compared to all TV programming. There’s not a close 2nd. I love college football, it’s my second favorite sport, it just can’t touch the NFL. If you did your own due diligence, you’ll know that.

@craigcavaliere6744 8 месяцев назад

I live less than an hour south of Jacksonville. You'd never know we are that close to an NFL team. And most people in my area are mostly Giants, Patriots, Eagles, Steelers, Dolphins or Bucs fans.

@supremeb3563 6 месяцев назад

Sounds like you live Volusia county.

@craigcavaliere6744 6 месяцев назад

@@supremeb3563 Flagler

@duketogo25 26 дней назад

I don’t think Jacksonville should have a team, so I’m gonna do a whole video of exaggerating and making 💩up to support what I already believed. I’m so sick of people like this. The city does not struggle to support the Jags. At all. Leave us TF alone.

@ellwoodwolf 6 дней назад

I pass the stadium almost every day - I live in the ghetto north of the stadium. Jacksonville should only have a team if billionaire Kahn pays for it himself. They are a sub .500 team for the last 15 years - they suck

@duketogo25 5 дней назад

@@ellwoodwolf this goofy 💩 you said has nothing to do with anything, just your opinion on something I wasn't talking about.

@ramanoodle6224 8 месяцев назад

there is just not enough of momentum

@knutthompson7879 8 месяцев назад

Winning will cure a lot of problems and there is at least some hope of contending now. A couple of years ago it seemed bleak and moving inevitable. The stadium situation is a tough one. The price tag for renovation is very steep and given their history, a couple of peaks but a lot of rough times, justifying that investment is hard. But it looks for now like plans are moving forward. What they have in their favor is a state that would likely pitch in and the fact there are not any obvious places to relocate. LA and Vegas were the relocation jewels but those are now taken. Toronto? St Louis? London? All have issues. Staying put may now be the best option. Somewhat surprisingly.

@paulkoza8652 4 месяца назад

Move the Jags to Meico City. Huge popoulation. Probably enthusiastic fan base. And the team name fits perfectly.

@jrvegeeta 13 дней назад

@@paulkoza8652 You do realize that Khan isn’t interested in moving the team, right? Nobody who intends to move spends the amount of money he’s spent on the stadium AND the surrounding area - no business man or business woman would. Owners who intend to move a sports franchise spend VERY little to no money on the existing stadium or current community because they need those funds for moving trucks, new stadium, relocation fees, all-new advertising campaigns, all-new merchandise…. the list goes on and it is LOOOONG.

@paulkoza8652 13 дней назад

@@jrvegeeta Very much disagree. The owners get the city and its taxpayers to foot the bill. They could care less about pulling a team. Don't believe me - just look at all the franchises who have moved in the past 20+ years. The biggest reason the Jags have not moved is that they have no place to go. Just about all of the major markets have teams. Khan has no loyalty to Jax. The ideal place to move the team would be Mexico City and the mascot would fit in perfectly there.

@kenneth1680 8 месяцев назад

I wonder what city Modell would've moved the Browns to if Baltimore had been selected as an expansion.

@UserName-ts3sp 8 месяцев назад

i think memphis or nashville

@gbalph4 8 месяцев назад

@@UserName-ts3spwell then where does Bud go after pissing off Houston

@darrellhall6622 8 месяцев назад

@@gbalph4Cleveland to get back at Art.

@sirchi8731 8 месяцев назад

😮there is nothing wrong with TIAA Bank Stadium for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was 10 or more years left before a possible replacement. Its not fed ex or the Coliseum in Oakland.

@paulkoza8652 4 месяца назад

If you live in Jax, be aware that you will be paying for the renovations or replacement.

@smartmaxwell9017 2 дня назад

So what

@xxpsychicmindxx 5 месяцев назад

The existence of the Jacksonville Jaguars always baffled me. They’re kinda like the NFL’s version of the OKC Thunder or Utah Jazz, which are super small markets that pretty much got teams by dumb luck. The real reason why Jax even has a team is because their owner was willing to build a gigantic brand new stadium at the right time. At the time, St. Louis or Baltimore probably deserved a team more than Jacksonville Geographically, Jacksonville actually makes a lot of sense for a team. Football is practically a religion in the South, so if your team is halfway decent fan support and market size won’t be a huge issue (just look at the Saints). Jacksonville is also in a pretty good position, to where it’s far enough from Tampa/Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, and Charlotte. So the team pretty much owns all of North Florida and Southern Georgia which is actually a huge plus. Not to mention that Florida and Georgia are growing like crazy. In any other universe Jacksonville would not have a team. I personally think that Orlando would’ve been a better option for a 3rd team in Florida, but J-Ville isn’t too bad I guess

@thebikewatcher9819 2 месяца назад

Believe or not, Jacksonville is actually the largest city in Florida. Area wise it's one of the largest in the country. Orlando is the 4th largest city in Florida, though it is a larger market, because it is more well known/visited. Orlando would be a tough sell for the NFL, simply because it is less than 100 miles from Tampa, and the competition for marketshare would be tough.

@jrvegeeta 13 дней назад

Actually the city got on the NFL map because the Jacksonville Bulls of the USFL in the 80’s had the highest attendance average in the entire league (by a wide margin I might add) during their existence.

@DavidLimofLimReport 8 месяцев назад

Would like to hear JG9’s thoughts..

@TimEric4d3d3d3 8 месяцев назад

whatever it is it would be long-winded

@chivasregaldown 24 дня назад

He would tear this apart. It's at best cherry picking, at worst wildly inaccurate.

@allenmorgan6847 8 месяцев назад

Also the city and county are the same through consolidation Nashville has an identical city county deal

@Zachor322 8 месяцев назад

Now I can see why they are playing so many games in London

@Yannaro_Kim 10 дней назад

It was a plan by the owner Shad khan to make the jaguars an internationl team and try to make american football more popular overseas.

@ellwoodwolf 6 дней назад

I hope they move.

@Yannaro_Kim 5 дней назад

@@ellwoodwolf The Jags aren't going anywhere, so your hope was wasted

@spacemansports4129 8 месяцев назад

Sadly whenever the dolphins and Bucs play there most fans that attend are mostly from those teams.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

Yep

@Yannaro_Kim 10 дней назад

Cuz everybody is at the budzone or the bar and not sitting at their seats. Yes I go to the game alot and its always pack in those areas.

@paulkoza8652 4 месяца назад

Great analysis. I lived in JAX for 25 years and could not agree more with your statements.

@simonjohn354 2 дня назад

Instead of building local support they are worried about building international audience.

@cedtv6899 8 месяцев назад

As of today October 1st, 2023 the Jacksonville jaguars are 9th in attendance in the NFL with over 72K per game. They have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Trevor Lawrence and they are by far the best team in the AFC south.

@andrewalden8364 8 месяцев назад

By far? That’s funny, because as I check the standings all 4 teams in the division are 2-2 right now.

@gavincampbell7488 8 месяцев назад

I was also thinking this.. but as far as overall talent is concerned. I get it. @@andrewalden8364

@knutthompson7879 8 месяцев назад

By far might be a bit of an exaggeration, but you are right that wins are the best antidote to a struggling franchise. There is at least hope now where it looked bleak a couple of years ago.

@blu2fquismac43 8 месяцев назад

@@andrewalden8364funny how you only wanted to mention the record part but ran from the attendance part 😂😂 people love lying on Jacksonville but the truth is our games are always packed when they are not it’s because of the heat

@andrewalden8364 8 месяцев назад

@@blu2fquismac43 awww, was it too hot for you Jacksonville fans? So you only show up if the temperature is between 60-80 degrees. Some real diehard fans y’all have there!!!

@WDI2008 8 месяцев назад

Jacksonville was actually a bargaining chip city in the NFL in the 1980's.

@popeyes_chicken3809 7 месяцев назад

ive lived i JAX for i while and our fans are still there even if we suck

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

Yeah all 2 of them

@fuzytaco6 8 месяцев назад

I'm native of Jacksonville. And the whole renovations thing has been going on since 2006. And every time the team brings up wanting to do a complete overhaul of the stadium. They always want half the bill to be paid by the tax payers of Duval County, which is the entire city. But they always ask for it when losing, so the city always votes no. The tax payers don't wanna spend money on a losing franchise. 99 out of 100 citizens want the team to be there forever. But doesn't want to pay for renovations at this point. People I ask about what they think keep saying they would rather just pay to build a whole new stadium than renovations. The County has plenty of land available for use. Just has to be the right price.

@cmjcj2ktn 6 месяцев назад

Question: what market would the Jags be most likely to move to within the US here, or do you think they are destined to be the NFL's first permanent London team, and if so, will they maintain the Jaguar logo, or would it change?

@richardpuckett8127 5 месяцев назад

The jaguars are not going anywhere.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@richardpuckett8127 Yes they are

@Graphics_Card 2 месяца назад

Moving to London is logistically impossible in every aspect

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@richardpuckett8127 Yes they are

@chivasregaldown 24 дня назад

The answer is this guy has no idea of what he's talking about.

@dylanhunter9330 8 месяцев назад

In my opinion St. Louis should've been awarded the expansion team over Jacksonville, much bigger market and given thier recent XFL attendance should be able to support another team

@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1 8 месяцев назад

But the NFL has failed twice in St. Louis.

@davelb87 8 месяцев назад

@@stormytreemfnthe irony being Ram ownership pushed against St. Louis as an expansion city because they wanted the market for themselves.

@fivehundrediq5212 8 месяцев назад

St. Louis lost The Rams & The Cardinals why would the NFL go back for a third time?

@dvferyance 8 месяцев назад

@@fivehundrediq5212 LA lost 3 teams in it's history and got two. Prior to 2016 I could have said the same thing about them.

@Weidneriffic 8 месяцев назад

If St. Louis had supported the Cardinals, they wouldn’t have been looking for an expansion team. And by the way, Jacksonville’s old USFL team, the Bulls, averaged 40,000 a game, including 70,000-plus TWICE. Those two numbers are the highest ever for a Non-NFL team.

@sampicano 13 дней назад

Jacksonville metro - 1,713,240 Toronto metro - 7,281,694 Woah....Toronto NEEDS AN NFL TEAM....Why does Jacksonville have one???

@ellwoodwolf 6 дней назад

Tax abatements that's why - we shouldn't but do.

@smartmaxwell9017 2 дня назад

Toronto is a yankee country that's why

@bluerisk 8 месяцев назад

New York: Are we a joke to you?! @ Buffalo having no other team in their state.

@dawho123 8 месяцев назад

The Jets and Giants play in New Jersey technically. It's weird but true! I know several Jets fans that hate the team not playing in New York (which would annoy me too!)

@AntiContradiction 8 месяцев назад

1. Jacksonville isn't struggling to support the Jaguars anymore. This video would he more appropriately in 2019. 2. The main reason for lack of local support in the 2000s and 2010s is that they sucked most of the time, and half the cities population are people who moved there from other places in the US. Many peoples are already fans of other teams and therefore don't have a connection to their local team.

@RioluLucario1994 8 месяцев назад

3. Florida is SEC territory

@overbanked 8 месяцев назад

@@RioluLucario1994 Whatever man.....

@RioluLucario1994 8 месяцев назад

@@overbanked We talk about the Georgia Bulldogs and Florida State Football all the time, the Falcons may get a mention or two, but I've NEVER been that excited to watch the Jaguars. Its the same reason why an NFL team in Alabama wouldn't work. The Crimson Tide has been there so long that they would overshadow any NFL team that would move there.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@RioluLucario1994 facts

@smartmaxwell9017 2 дня назад

You mean 2009 not 2019 dummy

@tkin1973 22 дня назад

If the Jaguars were a well run team they'd be doing just fine.

@jonpike9991 8 месяцев назад

I moved to Jacksonville in 2002 from the Philly area. There are a lot of transplants from Ohio. There are a lot more Browns fans here. Jacksonville is little Ohio

@paulkoza8652 4 месяца назад

Sorry to disagree, but it is little Pittsburgh.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@paulkoza8652 I actually don't see a lot of Browns or Steeler fans. I would say mostly Cowboy fans, Eagle fans, Patriot fans which are just band wagon fans, Packers fans, and Dolphin fans.

@Lamar-re1jr 8 месяцев назад

You have to win win win if you win i guaranteed you it’ll change. The ppl that don’t live in Jacksonville don’t know how a sold out stadium look in Jacksonville. You just have to win

@kinocorner976 8 месяцев назад

I think it’s less about the Jags being bad, and more about the cost of an NFL game. If it was reasonable, of course people would go to a game, even if their team is bad, look at Michigan fans for years 🤣👌 Still, when you have to pay 300$ for a ticket, 20-30$ for parking, 40-50$ for food for the entire game. You’re upwards the cost of a new Xbox or PS5

@ellwoodwolf 6 дней назад

NFL games are a horrible choice. You can have a giant party at a bar , or buy a decent TV and games for the season for the same price as 1 regular season game with good seats.

@restfulambiancehq157 2 месяца назад

There is a 100% chance the new Jags stadium deal will fall apart. By 2028, the Jaguars WILL find a home in a different city. Mark my words.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

I hope

@chivasregaldown 24 дня назад

I mean, the city council just approved it today. It's a favorable deal for the city that off loads a lot of expenses onto the jags.

@restfulambiancehq157 24 дня назад

@@chivasregaldown the city council doesn’t officially approve until next month. And if I had a dollar for every “approved” project in Jacksonville that was never built…..

@Ryguy-lg2xz 8 месяцев назад

Maybe the jags should move, but they should stay in America the only exception would be if they moved to Toronto. They could definitely support NFL team. I do not think moving them to London would be a good idea.

@anthonymendez1997 8 месяцев назад

Part of Shahid Khan’s agreement in purchasing ownership is that the Jags keep the team in Jacksonville.

@Graphics_Card 8 месяцев назад

Shad promised Weaver that he would take control of ownership as long as the jags don’t move away from Jacksonville.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@Graphics_Card He's gonna change his tune when they keep losing money every year. Plus he knows nothing about football. The Jaguars are one of the only teams to have never made the Stupor Bowl.

@Graphics_Card 2 месяца назад

@@mizer9510 Um, this guys a businessman. How does he lose money every year? That problem sounds like a hiring manager problem, not an owner problem. Keep in mind that he has already invested millions of dollars in properties throughout the city. That changes nothing

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@Graphics_Card He's only interested where the money takes him, and when the lease runs out he will probably sell the team.

@dtwd9043 2 месяца назад

You couldn’t be more wrong 😂. Jags are very much alive and well 🐆

@richardpuckett8127 8 месяцев назад

Jacksonville doesn't struggle with the Jaguars. And no we don't have attendance problems. The only time Jacksonville had attendance problems. Was after the financial collapse in 2008-09. And thats because of blue collar workers not working. Jacksonville absolutely supports the Jaguars. Its been years since seats were tarped. Its been years since we have had a blackout game. And just because you see empty seats on tv. Doesn't mean that people are not there. Because our stadium has indoor seating, and all the good seats. Have an indoor clubhouse. So unless they're winning? If its hot, cold, or raining, people go inside

@rokit430 8 месяцев назад

Dont ever underestimate the Jaguars. Go Jags!!🔥

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

Uh no

@florhirezi2194 14 дней назад

Remember the pandemic? We thrived while your hotels & attractions sat empty. Btw, Disney wanted Jax but the city leaders back then were wary of basically, one investment company buying a ton of acreage & what it will do to the city, if they agree to that. So they said no, and then later found out, it was Walt Disney looking to expand his Disney parks in FL. He had no recourse but to look at your swamplands, Orlando. The rest is history. So, thank Jax for your good fortune & hands off fr my Jags, Orlando.

@zimmejoc 7 месяцев назад

Cleveland is hundreds of miles closer to Buffalo than Miami is to Jacksonville.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

So?

@jojorice 8 месяцев назад

Been to the stadium several times for the GA/FL game. It's a dump and the area around it isn't very welcoming either. Jags should move out.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

I've lived near Jacksonville my whole life and can say that their fans only show up when they win. You would never even know they had a team in losing seasons. Most people that live here are fans of other teams.

@jeremygiglia4824 20 дней назад

The Jags will end up in St Louis or San Antonio when the stadium deal comes up

@ellwoodwolf 6 дней назад

A large part of Jax is hopeful they leave.

@canvasmoore6470 8 месяцев назад

Every team struggle with ticket sales so why do you keep pointing out struggles when ticket sales have been good for years now. I have lived in Atlanta in the early 90s and the Falcons had blackouts and empty seats because they lost a lot so the point is if you lose the fans don’t come but if you win then they will come..Jacksonville has to go through it like every other team.

@bustingyewls154 8 месяцев назад

Move them somewhere else or give them a new stadium at least

@anthonylacy8374 8 месяцев назад

Will you jackoffs cut the moving to London crap. The logistics of it are awful. How would they even make it work? I'm all ears. There is zero practicality in this happening. Zero.

@Graphics_Card 8 месяцев назад

Ikr. The NFL failed in Europe back in 2007

@overbanked 8 месяцев назад

You picked an ancient skyline pic of Jax 0:51

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

That was the point, i was trying to go back as close to the time period i was referring to.

@overbanked 8 месяцев назад

I gotcha. Even though that pic is from the eighties; way before a NFL team to Jax was even thought of

@Usernowned 8 месяцев назад

That Wikipedia page was on your desktop for a hot minute huh.

@daviejz6698 8 месяцев назад

Move them to Montreal. Olympic stadium is avalaible.

@spacemansports4129 8 месяцев назад

Montreal only supports Hockey and Soccer. Keep dreaming

@jamesstricklin5201 8 месяцев назад

I thought Tenn titans struggled to have a team 😮

@andrewmcreynolds4677 6 дней назад

Another hit piece

@alecthomas5311 20 дней назад

Well this video didn’t age well. New stadium and new 30 year lease.

@904keith8 7 месяцев назад

😂 Yeah right Go Jags!🐆

@williamerazo3921 4 месяца назад

Move the team to London. It’s 10’million in the metro area and the whole UK market

@19valleydan 3 месяца назад

If the SST ever comes back, maybe.

@Dark0Shadow79 8 месяцев назад

move them to STL or OKLA

@gilbertgreeniii1706 8 месяцев назад

I've heard people like you talked about a move for years Jacksonville Jaguars is never going anywhere once this new stadium gets built please make another video LOL hahaha 😂😂😂

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

Well nothings happened yet, so idk why your laughing…

@gilbertgreeniii1706 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780 your pointis a joke ,......oh well nothing happened yet😂😂😂. Oh course genius ...the stadium won't be built untill 2026......😂😂😂. I guess you will hope otherwise until then.....like most you guys that have been talking about a move for almost 2 decades now.....Wow. 2 decades....... you'll still be around watching them play in Jacksonville and London....... Nothing gonna change. You clearly don't listen to the Owners intentions or his son intensions....😮. That's why it's funny to see and listen to you guys for .....😂 again almost 2 decades 😂😂😂😂😂

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

@@gilbertgreeniii1706 thats your opinion, clearly u have to compensate your lackluster argument with a bunch of emojis since its a weak one…

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

@@gilbertgreeniii1706 no one said they were moving the last 2 decades just that their future is uncertain, im not stupid i know their bound by a stadium lease, but just because they submitted a plan doesnt mean its happening, imo the plan is too ambitious for jax to afford and it will be a great challenge to get a deal done.

@chivasregaldown 24 дня назад

@@forgottenplaces9780jags fans have been hearing move talk for two decades. Clowning people like you who don't actually know that's always been just low hanging fruit for cheap shot sports writers and hacks is as secondary to breathing to us now. And the city unveiled the stadium deal today. It's very favorable to the city. It will get done.

@Jay-Garcia101 19 дней назад

You do know Buffalo is in NY! As in the NY Giants and NY Jets!!

@Blkgirlzwrestle 17 дней назад

The giants and jets don't play in NY. Their stadium is in New Jersey

@user-qr3so8yz4c 20 дней назад

Honestly you can blame that on Tony khan

@Blkgirlzwrestle 17 дней назад

Tony doesn't even own the jags, he literally works for his dad who owns them

@AFNick 8 месяцев назад

Relocating to become the London Jags is the likely outcome here. Jaguars name kind of make sense due to famous British car brand.

@danrhone9756 8 месяцев назад

Having a NFL team overseas would be too much to ask for plus travel expenses is horrendous across the board

@SunshineStateCoasters 8 месяцев назад

Jaguar cars sued us for our first logo. So no that connection can’t legally happen.

@mjisthegoat88 8 месяцев назад

lol who would be in their division? the travel would be nightmarish and precious few free agents would want to move across the atlantic ocean

@AFNick 8 месяцев назад

@@SunshineStateCoasters didn’t know that they had such a contentious history. Thanks for sharing

@AFNick 8 месяцев назад

@@mjisthegoat88 On a professional athlete’s salary, London is a fun place to live. It’s definitely more desirable for free agents than several US cities that have teams currently.

@Play2Win18 8 месяцев назад

jacksonville was suppose to be holllywood before it went to california

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

They need to promote that! They need to promote a lot of their history.

@Weidneriffic 8 месяцев назад

This is ridiculous. No NFL team ‘struggles to exist’. They all make huge profits, including Jacksonville. Over the last dozen years, the Jaguars had only two winning seasons, yet they averaged over 60,000 a game. They’ve sold a lot more tickets than the Rams did in St. Louis, despite the Rams winning a Super Bowl and making another Super Bowl appearance. Jacksonville has more people than Buffalo and New Orleans; no one says their markets are too small. Finally, Northeast Florida is one of the fastest markets in the country.

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

They make profits because of revenue sharing, not because they are a successful market, if they were so successful they wouldnt be playing in London every year…

@Weidneriffic 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780 Yes, if not for revenue sharing, many small market teams -Buffalo, New Orleans, Tennessee, and Jacksonville would struggle. The Jaguars are doing fine, and are sold out of season tickets. The newly renovated stadium will make them even more profitable, and ensure they stay in Jacksonville for the next 30 years.

@blu2fquismac43 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780we play in London because our owner owns a team over there, we signed a contract to play games over there because our team is bigger then any other nfl franchise over there get your facts straight we don’t have to play over there but you’ll lie on the jags for views 😂😂

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

@@blu2fquismac43 yea thats why, keep telling yourself that…

@blu2fquismac43 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780 I don’t have to tell my self I’m a jags fan who actually pays attention to my team meanwhile you read fake articles and add even more lies to the fake articles. Do real research and stop lying on our team weirdo

@anthonyrivera4042 8 месяцев назад

Can the Jaguars move to Orlando, St. Louis, Columbus, Raliegh, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Portland, San Diego, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Antonio or Austin?

@danrhone9756 8 месяцев назад

San Diego Jags would be good. Give the San Diego fans what they wished for after losing The Chargers or St. Louis would be another great option

@fivehundrediq5212 8 месяцев назад

@@danrhone9756San Diego is better than Jacksonville

@fivehundrediq5212 8 месяцев назад

#1 Half of these cities are crap, #2 Jerry Jones will never allow a third team in Texas. #3 Some of these cities don’t have the money or location to build a new stadium #4 Some regions are dominated by one Team which saves money on expanding another franchise

@dvferyance 8 месяцев назад

I doubt 3 teams in Ohio would work.

@UserName-ts3sp 8 месяцев назад

- bucs would fight - lost two teams - three teams, one smallish state - NC can’t support both - small market - small market - no stadium - no stadium - niners would fight - small market - jerry won’t allow it - jerry won’t allow it

@donpaynter1980 8 месяцев назад

There’s no mystery. It’s a poor city. That’s the answer to all your questions.

@jasonkoch3182 3 месяца назад

They were supposed to go to St Louis and be the Stallions. But the NFL decided to continue its longstanding tradition of screwing St Louis.

@GarbagePlateROC 8 месяцев назад

GO BILLS 🦬

@theshape5187 8 месяцев назад

Go sharks 🦈

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

Who said anything about the Bills? They suck by the way.

@user-ex3yq1yp4w 28 дней назад

This whole video is nonsense and shows a lack of on location research. Jags fans are some of the best in the NFL. In fact, this week our City agreed on a total stadium renovation. We already built a brand new football facility last year. The Jags aren’t going anywhere. I don’t know why you and national media seem to always be pushing that the Jags are constantly looking to relocate. It’s simply not true. My guess is all your assumptions about Jax come from downtown. I suggest if you ever do visit Jax, take a drive to the beach, visit the Southside, take a boat cruise on the St Johns. There’s more to Jax than downtown.

@forgottenplaces9780 28 дней назад

I actually was there about 2 months ago, didnt get the impression that its a great nfl city, that deal isnt finalized yet either. If jax was such a great nfl city they wouldnt be playing in London every year…

@SunshineStateCoasters 8 месяцев назад

Jags fan here and Jacksonville native born and raised. Tbh the Jags have no business being here. They should relocate! The city WILL NOT approve tax payer funding for the renovated stadium. The fact the Khan family wants us to pay for something that 9/10 always brings frustration to us is disgraceful! I speak for a lot of people in Jacksonville. We don’t need the Jags, we don’t want them anymore, and we need to spend the money on far more important issues than renovating a stupid stadium that will be used less than 15 times a year…

@fivehundrediq5212 8 месяцев назад

Do you want the city to grow or not?

@SunshineStateCoasters 8 месяцев назад

@@fivehundrediq5212 honestly no I don’t. We don’t need any more outsiders coming in with their horrid driving skills. And nothing good really comes from a growing city, usually it’s just crime and that’s what’s happening here!

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

How about you just leave Jax. Its ppl like you that keep our city down. City is growing. You can't stop it. Just leave. We don't need you here.

@Graphics_Card 8 месяцев назад

"we need to spend the money on far more important issues than renovating a stupid stadium that will be used less than 15 times a year…" Like what, sending money to the homeless? People like you are the reason why Jacksonville is decades behind on infrastructure, entertainment, jobs, etc...

@Graphics_Card 2 месяца назад

@@SunshineStateCoastershave you ever heard of a concept called: moving tf out?

@drdisrespectsburner5777 Месяц назад

London team

@overbanked 8 месяцев назад

So many haters...Keep on hating, while Jax and the Jags get better and better.

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

This comment aged poorly

@overbanked 2 месяца назад

@@mizer9510 Only to someone that's micromanaging. Things happen man (Trevor's injury)...

@mizer9510 2 месяца назад

@@overbanked He's not that good.

@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1 8 месяцев назад

I think the Jags should move to Austin or San Antonio

@ChiefsFanInSC 8 месяцев назад

Move the team to St. Louis, Missouri.

@drayiii980 8 месяцев назад

Why? They haven't actually struggled with attendance since 2009

@wmw3629 6 месяцев назад

Where 2 other NFL teams have failed there. Great idea!

@chivas_gold 8 месяцев назад

Move it to Mexico City

@trevonwiggins2643 8 месяцев назад

Smh we haven't struggled to exist in almost 10 years

@fivehundrediq5212 8 месяцев назад

Before you start bashing on Jacksonville, People forget Green Bay only has a population of 100,000

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

Not the same, Green Bay has Milwaukee to draw from and the whole state of Wisconsin, not to mention a much longer history of success.

@dvferyance 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780 I am from Milwaukee and could care less about the Packers. They are 2 hours away. And Milwaukee really isn't a big market in fact it's the smallest market in the MLB. Jacksonville is the 12th largest city in the country way bigger than Milwaukee.

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

@@dvferyance did u watch the video? Jacksonvilles only 11th because of land area, its not really that big, and yea ive been there…

@dvferyance 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780 I have been there too. It's smaller than places like Atlanta and Charlotte but it's still bigger than Milwaukee and I live here so I know. And Milwaukee doesn't really count as the Packers market since they are a 2 hour drive away. Now prior to 30 years ago when they played a couple of games here you could make that argument but since they now play all their games in Green Bay you can't.

@vancejacobs4304 8 месяцев назад

Green Bay got they team way back in the day when NFL first started in small towns before they hit the real biggest cities a lots of small Town teams folded and green Bay was one of the only small town teams stayed around plus the Packers was the face of the league because they destroyed teams and was always in the championship games and they fans the whole city even though it's small every one sell out at they games

@meechieking3096 8 месяцев назад

Milwaukee need a nfl team

@drayiii980 8 месяцев назад

Way too close to Chicago. And no one in Wisconsin will drop their support for the Packers for some startup in Milwaukee

@rahimi4762 7 месяцев назад

Columbus does too

@donaldjgumpofficial5754 3 месяца назад

Green Bay fills the niche. It's a Wisconsin team.

@ellwoodwolf 6 дней назад

They are 71-145 over the last 15 years - they are barely a mid-tier team. I don't want to give a billionaire welfare for his business, do stadiums make money ? Yes, but the money flows into the pockets of very few, and never the people who funded the stadium. Jags suck. Kahn sucks. Jax city council sucks.

@connorthompson8963 8 месяцев назад

Odd saying this after a whopping they did today

@pnwsp21stcentury81 7 месяцев назад

You know, it’s really interesting because I was one of those people that made fun of the Jaguars and was the biggest jaguars hater ever and always saying and mocking them and saying things like “ all of the Jacksonville jaguars oh I really don’t take that team seriously, this team and city is a joke!!!!!! They need to move to Portland” And although I still kind of have those sentiments, I also went to Orlando and I actually came to find out the contrary and understanding how media markets work, I actually found out that the Jaguars actually somewhat represent the Orlando market and so do the buccaneers too but as much as the Jaguars. And I think much like the Orlando Magic, and Disney world, I think the Jaguars name is influenced by Disney as well along with magic and bucs and maybe the rays too but I think the rays are the only one that is not influenced by the Disney world and then there is the lighting and I think Disney World plays a part in naming too. So I think even though the Jaguars are very fraudulent franchise and I think they should move, I think there’s just a lot more layers and there’s just a lot more to it since I went to Orlando back in September. And it’s a lot more complicated to move them as well.

@chrish9043 День назад

This video is like 10 years outdated. Fun fact were upgrading our stadium and renewing our lease. Gtfoh with this bs

@drayiii980 8 месяцев назад

4:26 'why are the Jaguars still talked about for possible relocation?' Because people have their heads up their asses and keep using the same talking points from 2 decades ago. Even though 3 other teams have relocated during that time, funny none of them were the Jaguars

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

Not really, those teams leases had expired, the Jaguars lease has not, nor was even close to until recently. You cant just move a team whenever you want to, thats the point of a stadium lease and why Cleveland got another team, because Modells move was illegal and the NFL knew theyd lose in court.

@rstaylorLYNCH47 8 месяцев назад

Crime infested. duh... 😮

@cosmostrek512 8 месяцев назад

they are not struggling to exist. all nfl teams make plenty of money. they are not moving to england. they will get a completely free stadium. the nfl wants to put 4 teams in europe at once a whole division. the owners want to charge 7 billion a year for the new teams. that 28 billion would get distributed to all the owners almost 1 billion for each team. the jacksonville owner is not going to pay to move to england. the nfl owners are not going to give up almost a billion a team for each owner.

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

I disagree.

@dennisud 8 месяцев назад

If they move within the state Orlando would be a logical choice. St. Louis & San Antonio would be good outside the state area.

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

I dont really think orlando would fare much better, not because of the number of people but because so many are from somewhere else

@Graphics_Card 8 месяцев назад

Bro Orlando stadiums suck

@Lowgraphicsdeer 8 месяцев назад

Only the Brits remember that Jacksonville has a team

@fivehundrediq5212 8 месяцев назад

That’s very short sighted of you

@RudieObias 8 месяцев назад

The team is ripe to move to London, if the NFL can make the logistics work

@drayiii980 8 месяцев назад

Think they'd find attracting FAs to the team would be exceedingly difficult, except for those players and their families who specifically would like to move outside the country

@Graphics_Card 2 месяца назад

They can’t

@jeffc1347 8 месяцев назад

Orlando has everything that Jacksonville doesn’t: a major international airport, 130,000 hotel rooms to Jacksonville’s 20,000, endless amounts of world-class attractions and restaurants, and the 17th-largest TV market in the country (Jacksonville is 41st). Orlando gets 70 million tourists a year while Jacksonville gets 6 million. Orlando's tourism tax collects $300 million per year while Jacksonville collects $5 million. Both have big football stadiums that are asking for a lot of public money for renovations. I was a vocal advocate against Orlando’s Major League Baseball stadium proposal because it was clearly a bad investment. Baseball is a boring, dying sport (notice the A’s and Rays are building stadiums that are the smallest in MLB) and no major events want to play an MLB stadium. Renovating Camping World Stadium into a world-class, covered NFL stadium will bring every big event Orlando could possibly want. It will also mean Orlando's giant stadium actually has a tenant.

@Play2Win18 8 месяцев назад

jacksonville could a been bigger they declined to be hollywood so they went to california jacksonville was also the first harlem before new york we could be just like yall but they declined theme parks and etc smh

@Urhighnesswalye 8 месяцев назад

@@Play2Win18all thanks to that church downtown haha Religion ruined Jacksonvilles development lol 1. Hollywood before Hollywood 2. Harlem before Harlem 3. Biggest Zoo in the US was initially planned for Jax but after they declined they went San Diego lol I hate First Baptist church

@supremeb3563 6 месяцев назад

🤣@@Urhighnesswalye

@metsandjetsfan5174 8 месяцев назад

That's because Charlotte and Jacksonville shouldn't exist in the NFL they should've let the Baltimore Stallions and the St Louis Knights exist, better yet add the Memphis Pharaohs and San Antonio Bobcats would work as well

@rahimi4762 7 месяцев назад

And let Ohio have 3 teams. NFL was born and bred in Ohio plus the HOF here. Columbus needs a team. It’s has a far better economy, metro more ppl and growing, it’s building up the city etc

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

Yea this video is BS. Do your research. We are more than capable of paying half for this stadium to be redone. Its Jacksonvilles stadium to renovate to begin with. We own it. So to have an NFL owner willing to pay half is a huge plus. We did half on the practice facility (that Jax owns) but the Jags use and maintain. Shad has even taken over caring for Everbank and Metro park. Huge tax relief for us. Our new Gov has been a life long season tix owner. I dont see her letting the Jags go. Its to important for the city....and her career lol. But Jax is growing by 1.2%+ annually. So the tax burden continues to decrease as long as that growth continues. Its a really a great place to live. Yes we have crime. So do a lot of major cities. We have some of the best weather. Especially in Oct-May. Late Jan and beginning of March can be cold. But the rest of the time is some of the best weather you'll ever have. Jax just needs to start promoting their culture more. Its where Hollywood started. Promote that! Its the birth place of Southern Rock. Promote that. Ray freaking Charles got his start here in LaVilla. Promote that! We have so much that just isn't shined on. Need to turn that around! Oh and dont forget the 4seasons being built right across the road from Everbank. Shad owns this hotel and its already started construction.

@forgottenplaces9780 8 месяцев назад

No ones put up a billion dollars in public money for a stadium to this point, and Jacksonville is the least qualified to do so and thats not even for a new stadium, when Miamis owner wanted money for a rennovation the city told him to pound salt and he paid for it himself. There frankly isnt the tax base or desire based on polling for the project, if that went to the polls it would fail by a decent amount. What are they gona do add a 50% hotel tax? See how that works out. The only way that project happens is either its mostly privately funded, the state gives them a handout like Ny did to Buffalo, or the project is massively scaled down.

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

@@forgottenplaces9780 you think its just for the stadium. More than that. Miami has more clout to say no. Jacksonville doesn't have that luxury. Most cities with NFL teams have that luxury.

@muzikdude1188 7 месяцев назад

They should have never went there to begin with. NFL dropped the ball (no pun intended) when they didn't award the team to St. Louis.

@supremeb3563 8 месяцев назад

Jacksonville's problem has always been it has never grabbed onto the "brand," that is Florida, which in turned resulted in less demand for development. It's very Florida Panhandle-ish. Small town thinking, very pine forest country looking, Jim Crow era, sundown town axe handle Sunday looking bridges, still fighting for Confederate Flag and statues, racist, local baptist church runs the downtown and dont want bars, clubs or nightlife beyond 6pm. Only thing Jacksonville had was very rich men like Tom Petway and Jaguars' first owner brother, Weaver who somehow convinced his brother Wayne to put up the money for application. In fact, the NFL never visited Jacksonville area during the application process. NFL only visited the stadium. They got the team because NFL wanted to save face and St Louis had two applicants fighting each other and Baltimore applicants didn't have their money together and no stadium deal. I lived there and the Florida Panhandle. The vibe is same. As for team, it will grow n fans if stadium is built because Jacksonville area is growing and will be about 1.8 million in 2025, nearly surpassing Virginia's Hampton Road metro because St Johns County is Really growing. Plus, the urbanized density area is bigger than Nashville, but outer realm counties are still rural unlike Nashville's.

@jeffc1347 8 месяцев назад

100%...Jacksonville culturally has always seemed more Georgia/Alabama than Florida, which in return mean no one has wanted to move there compared to Tampa, Orlando, and South Florida. Although because everywhere is in Florida has gotten so expensive people have been moving to Jax recently.

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

@@jeffc1347then why is it growing every yr?

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

Jax is not racist. Fighting for history is not racist. Your comment is ridiculous.

@rahimi4762 7 месяцев назад

Columbus is larger at 2.2 million and slot more money

@barryfinkle1755 27 дней назад

What a crappy, ill informed video.

@forgottenplaces9780 27 дней назад

Your welcome.

@iwatchvideos4fun2 27 дней назад

@@forgottenplaces9780it’s you’re* dumbass video from a dumbass lol!

@jessikat6692 8 месяцев назад

Jags are not struggling. Misinformation Video. Disliked. Go Jags!!

@trvaron 8 месяцев назад

I would be shocked if the Jaguars don't relocate. Jacksonville just doesn't work as an NFL city. There's not enough people and not enough passion from their fan base. By the time rumors are swirling about relocation for the Jaguars, I suspect that you'll hear St. Louis being thrown around as a possible destination.

@drayiii980 8 месяцев назад

Hahaha "By the time rumors are swirling about relocation for the Jaguars." Have you been living under a rock since the late 2000s? This is brought up constantly by the talking heads who don't know anything, and it hasn't happened and there's no sign that it will ever happen.

@Jaxboy86 8 месяцев назад

Not enough ppl? Jax alone has almost 1mill. Plus the surrounding counties. 1.6mill in the 904 area code. And the pop is growing 1.2% annually.

@Graphics_Card 8 месяцев назад

Well prepare to be shocked even more since none of this is happening.