Why Marth Is Incredible in Melee, and Why He's Still Great in Project M 

cries in Ultimate Marth

@@xavierashford9072 I feel like Ultimate Marth is the most underrated character in Ultimate. When I see him placed 20 spots lower than Lucina on Tier Lists I chuckle. There's no way he's that much worse than her. I think Marth just isn't used enough in tournaments to prove his viability.

@@jackflynn412 I play both, and they're right. Ease of use is such a potent factor in a character's placement in this game. Marth has set-ups, sure, but lucina can get consistent punishes with solid rewards and far more leniency. (wall of text incoming, sorry but it's all important) Take this situation, marth and lucina both hit someone from under ledge with an upair at 20%. With marth, you have to ask, did it hit tipper? If it didn't you don't get the combo. Did the follow-up up-air hit tipper? If not, it's a 50/50 now, and also did less damage. Did the next upair? Well if so, you just struggled to do what lucina did, and she managed to get 4 up airs, which means she got more damage and they're closer to the ground which means a better juggle state, and she can hit that combo from far more positions because no tipper. Further consider: kill percents, kill confirms and trade-offs. Marth can theoretically kill at most low percents. At 20, you've got nair-fsmash (position-dependent). At 40, you've got reverse up-air fsmash, and 60-mid 70s,you've got backing up nair1-fsmash. But later on, he has little in the way of kills beyond stray hits. At 110, you've got nair up-b, and possibly filt and uptilt depending on di and percent around there. But if you don't hit tipper, it doesn't matter, and it's a guess as to what to throw out. Then look at lucina. At 70, nair fsmash starts to kill. That works until nair-upsmash starts to work that that stops working (or even losing consistency) far past regular kill windows. 2 kill confirms, all you need, and no reverse or backing up, just simply landing it. Even when it comes to stray hits, marth's only barely kill earlier (aside from nair and filt) but considering you kill off of edgeguarding plenty of the time, that pulls it towards lucina's side unless you're hitting wily confirms or set-ups all the time, which isn't possible. I play marth to warm up and train (and play friendlies because he's more fun there) and lucina feels like piccolo taking off the weight when I enter bracket. He's harder for aproximately the same reward.

Diddy as we

Pre-patch smash 4 Marth was pretty garbage lol

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can’t argue against that

Even smash 64 has mods?

@@dhans9662 smash 64 has smash remix

The entire Cast was buffed, many characters do similar things as Puff, but they are slightly better (Wario). Puff didn't get nerfed at all, she did get buffs, but they are very minimal. She's basically outclassed, and also everyone else is on her level now/slightly better. That's my opinion tho. Some people think she's really underrated and no one really wants to push her, it could be a little bit of both honestly.

Mb melee puff inflated sorely by hbox. I mean is there any othere player who can consisitatly take top8 on majors. Puff has same representation as Pikachu and Yoshi - 1 top player