Why MEN care about a woman’s sexual past and what most women get wrong 

Maybe it´s the thinking about comparing them to the predecessors

Mmm,. I sympathise bro. Not cool of her.

​@@crispinswainstonharrison9042if she thought those relationships would last and she didn't know her husband-to-be existed yet, how would she have known?

more s3xual activity with many women is what you needed before getting married, my gf and me have almost the same high bodycount and because of my experience, I don't feel uncomfortable with that.

@@RaphaelBernardo sounds like it would get old after the second or third relationship. It's new and interesting the first few times but for me I got bored of it.

My husband had to remind me while we were dating that super slick swaggy dudes get that way by repetition and not to expect the same from a type of guy that (for example) prefers relationships to casual dating

Ya that would be the 10% of men. Cuz we not the rich..

Exactly woman care more about past romantic experiences their partner shared with a ex Men care more about past unemotional sex their partner had.

@@marcellusrobinson1465men care about both the sexual and the emotional. If said women had a large number of sexual and emotional experiences with many other men, I have no need for her.

😂😂😂🙄nothing is as frail as the men’s ego. Spider Web holds more pressure and weight.

Good point but you need to check it from different perspective, average girls nowadays can have sex immediately, they just open instagram and text some dude and 90% of this guys probably accept the invite for free "fun", opposite side the average guy when he text the girl that he want to bang her he will be probably blocked, so guy who have more bodies is viewed by others that he have something to offer to that girls because this girls want him. Also women have hymen for a reason right? It's not "there" for a joke. Most women are very emotional if it goes to intimacy, men just do it and that's all, so more bodies for women means she will just do it mechanically like men.

@@ShredzZ 1. Hymen is there to prevent infections since a young female doesn’t have a robust immunity to fight infections adult women can. 2. Values are values. I don’t care what anyone’s reasoning is for sleeping around, men or women, it’s unacceptable and I don’t want anything to do with men who sleep around and I want no associations with women who also sleep around.

@@WriteMeASong7 Its up to you but most of women dont care about men body count, im also dont see any point to sleep with random women but still, men need to have something to offer to even go to a date, women just born and that's it.

@@ShredzZ that’s ok. The women who don’t care are typically that type themselves.

@@ShredzZ We all care about men's body count. I despise promiscuous men.

@@njabulomasina4180 they don't stick around anyway. It's just grief and bs.

Fax

Damn, never thought of that.

@@njabulomasina4180 That is your opinion only

@SolidSiren the number of likes I have suggests otherwise.

The problem is this. Women by in large DO NOT disqualify a man based on his sexual past.....women by in large do not punish men for their sexual past....so as long as women reward these men with sexual access that "double standard" will always exist

@@JIX9ISLER1986 remember when I said I don't speak for all women? I don't care what other women want. I only care about what I want. And I said I don't want a promiscuous man. End of story

@@I_Am_NiiTA No I don't remember because you are a random NPC like most modern women you seem to lack reading comprehension - I never said "ALL women" try reading with logic instead of your emotions my statement still stands

Men can't be "promiscuous" because men don't control access to sex... women do.

​@@I_Am_NiiTA30% of men are either virgins or did not have a sexual intercourse in the past year. And this number is rising. For women this number is below 5%. So if you want men with low bodycount you have plenty of choice, but men looking for a woman with low BC is like looking for water in a desert

Same thing applies to women. She needs to go with her ‘biological’ instinct. Which is to be as selective as possible and only mate with (physically, financially, mentally) strong males. It’s nature

You must be bl@ck

Indeed, modernity has broken ppl from their ancestral roots hence even the most simplest truths like "behavioral change is hard" is forgotten and replaced by "more modern" "tabula rasa" theory. Everyone started as a blank canvas. You can quite easily add or remove anything just like a painting. While in reality for a lot of ppl even for something very basic like quitting smoking requires series of therapy.

But that was the past. You think she wants to have sex with them again? You’re torturing yourself for nothing. People change over time and experiences. Your present problems with your wife have nothing to do with her past sexual experiences. If you think so then go to a marriage counselor before you torture her and she asks for a divorce.

@@GillAgainsIsland12 it's just an example that I know of from real life. The point is, you know for sure that you are not her first choice, she only settled down to have kids. Obviously she doesn't love you or she's not attracted to you as she was to her previous partners, she's an alpha widow. The marriage is over, no amount of therapy can change it.

​@@gottrekk5798Hmm, if a husband isn't fuckable anymore, I do not blame the wife for being completely disinterested in sex.

@@Cocoisagordonsetter the chance of a successful marriage is the same for people in high school as for people 30+. The difference is that young people are together because they want to, because they love each other. People 30+ have baggage and they stay together because of kids and for financial reasons.

That is such a strange thought.

It's not just humiliation. I think this is the number one issue with this topic: articulating how you feel. It's unsurety and dejection of the soul. The unsurety is whether or not those were the only two guys and whether or not faithfulness played a role in those relationships not working out. It's also you're intuitive senses warning you that if it didn't work out with those two guys, it may not work out with you. The dejection of the soul is because you feel crushed that she gave herself up willingly to men she had no intentions or convictions to pursue for longevity. Your soul was forwarning you that that would be your fate as well, hence why you said you felt humiliated (even though you had no idea what their private lives were like or how you actually measured up to them in pleasing her (unless they specifically told you)). This is why for a lotof guys, they don't have this feeling for widows. It's very different, because the circumstances in which she is no longer in a relationship is different, and it wasn't because of promiscuity or some kind of trivial issue that she is no longer in a relationship. So it's very rare to hear of a man talk about retroactive jealosy if he does marry/date a widow.

@@billy503 "Dejection of the soul" Thank you, you've a gift of communication I lack, for that describes the feeling accurately.

​@@billy503 would still care if she is a widow and no I don't think measuring up is something men worry about. It's just the woman thinking of you as a safe bet

Good for you that you married a virgin. It is better than to get Chad's leftovers

How many are "a few" girlfriends? Did you sleep with them? If I were a virgin, I would've rejected you immediately. I would require the same of your , that you require of me.

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Average man saying the same shit all men do lol

@@adrianazollo2688 average woman relying the same way all average women do.

​@@adrianazollo2688You show tons of red flags from just a brief look at your comments. The stuff you say seems egotistical and pretentious

@@The_Questionaut lmfao!!!!!!!!!

And still, most of them cannot face this, and deny it or shame men for it.

True but men want to be promiscuous before settling down when they get older and hide their true past and body count

But there is also a LOT of men, that cannot understand the difference of being promiscuous and having an active sexlife.

What about promiscious men?

@@ankra12 We don't want to commit to promiscuous men either! Whatever women do is their own business. If women dont like promiscuous men, then they need to set that standard. Nobody else will set it for you..

I despise promiscuous men. You're as guilty as she is.

Lol

Ur number 151

You're the #150 pokemon in her connection

And yet you would brag about the same number. Double fricking standard created by and for men.

You don’t “request a woman”. She’s a human being not a thing. You approach her because you want her. Not the other way round

No my friend. Guys that get hung up on this are battling some internal insecurities that that aren't able to admit they carry. I personally have a pretty high body count and I don't want a woman who hasn't lived her life and had the kind of experiences I've had. I don't want to be her teacher. I want to celebrate her and her sexuality and mine as well within the relationship. Honestly if you're hung up on something like this you have inner work to do.

@@tastyparts No, it's actually just plain old common sense... A woman with ah high partner count is basically telling you that no men see her as valuable enough to keep around for long... she is clearly indicating she's only good for short-term sexual flings. So if none of those guys saw her as being good for anything else beyond that, then why should you? These juvenile feminist shaming tactics of yours won't work here...

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@davepazz580 So why do you immediately assume that women can’t and don’t enjoy sex? Because they didn’t enjoy it with you? Additionally, why do you assume that women who haven’t been “picked” by a man don’t want to be? Why do you assume that only men can break up with a woman? Why do you think every woman’s goal is to be picked by a man or get married? It’s not “common sense” if your entire argument is grounded in assumptions my guy. Perhaps take a gander at the definition of a “bare assertion fallacy,” because your argument is a textbook definition.

As a virgin woman, I do not accept non_virgin men

​@@davepazz580 Same for men

having an active sexlife is not a crime..

@@andersnielsen6044 it’s an analogy. A criminal employee can possibly screw up your business just like a 304 girlfriend can possibly screw up your relationship. It’s about mitigating risk.

​@@annatar6453What are you talking about? This isn't about cheating. Put your ego and low self esteem away. You watch dirty p o r n so what's your point on women's ex partners and morals?

@@annatar6453 It is just you showing off your insecurities with adult and independent women. That is really all it is. Calling women with an active sexlife "304's" is just pure misogyny.

@@andersnielsen6044 you can use all the shaming language you want by calling me insecure and misogynistic, but it is not going to change biology. Males of a species will not help the female raise offspring if she mated with other males. A promiscuous female jeopardizes the father’s paternity. The male being repulsed and not wanting to commit to promiscuous females, is an anti-cuckold mechanism instilled into males through evolution. You are right, having an active s3x life is not a crime but men do not have to accept that in a woman. Men can have any standard and preference we like, just like women can. Women like you are mad at this preference of men’s because it puts accountability and responsibility on women, which women are not used to doing. Women can do whatever they want and so can men. Every action has consequences and you cannot turn back time. You have to live with the consequences. You can be a 304 if you want but don’t cry later in life when men don’t want to be in a relationship with you. You chose your bed, now sleep in it.

Only chaste men can demand chaste women.

@@sarahrobertson634 Not true...promiscuous, powerful men can get chaste and promiscuous women. Demanding something carries no weight. These are rules of nature.

@@johngalt6838 Those men are the very seldom exception, according to natural law. They've got to defeat every male below them, which is quite rare and difficult. And chaste women are quite good at getting their recreation subtly. Nature dictates that women are very good at keeping secrets from their egotistical husbands.😘

@@sarahrobertson634 That's what I said.....and you're saying women will still cheat on them which would not make them chaste. Most women aren't.

@@sarahrobertson634 Those are the men most women go for btw. These guys rotate through them and the average women gets alpha widowed.

It's actually not "irrational" at all... it's how it's supposed to be.

But women are the gatekeepers of sex and only have sex with the few top % of men. The top 5% of guys all have a bodycount of 30+ while the bottom 60% is like 0-3

What's disgusting about it?

So you should also not care about a guy's income and his d*** size😊

So poor women shouldn't care about a guy's salary?

Wrong... one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Couldn't have said it better.

But yet I'm supposed to be indifferent to it...

Or you could just not have sex?

@@thewonkyfonker yes - until marriage

@@JIX9ISLER1986 or never? Finding other things you can do to spend time together?

A lot of women wouldn’t. Ppl have a life before they met u. If u don’t like that- state that ur looking for an inexpensive virgin

Not only that... women are the ones that keep "rewarding" the same men over and over with more sexual options, *they* are the ones signaling through their own actions that it's ok for men to have many sexual partners in his past, not men.

I'm glad my family raised my brothers and me the same way.

women are also socialized by patriarchy.

No we don't judge + As a virgin woman, I do not accept non_virgin men

Your past matters as well. Better be chaste.

@@sarahrobertson634 yes. People are too nonchalant these days. I ask for the same courtesy. My virginity for hers.

@Gabo H You don't know what most women care about. We do not want a man with a promiscuous past, due to cheating concerns. You're ignorant and confident about it. Terrible combination.

​@Gabo H That's what you're wrong. That's the society that keeps telling you that.

​@@sarahrobertson634woman can get sex easier than men.

What ''resources'' were you investing, pray tell?

@bobbyp3212 You make it sound like you were ONLY interested in her for sex. Doesn't love come into play at all for you? Weren't you spending money on dates trying to get to know her? Do you think women sit around calculating how much money a man has spent on them and when it reaches some specific amount it's ok to have sex with them?

@TGP109 It all depends on ones value system regarding sex. I'll use an analogy to help provide context to what I meant about resources. Imagine ones sexuality as a priceless, one of a kind vintage bottle of wine. Each person's "wine" is unique to themselves, and one has the freedom to enjoy that wine however they decide. Now, if Person A acknowledges the priceless nature of that wine, they understand that it can't be opened and experienced for just any meal or occasion. Person A decides that for that wine to be fully earned, respected, and appreciated, it deserves the appropriate conditions ( a long term commited relationship or even more ideal ,waiting until marriage) Person A decides the wine deserves a proper meal to be paired with. An expensive steak, proper glassware , fancy setting, etc. In order to prepare those conditions, Person A exerts resources for it. ( Economically, emotionally, spiritually, and also time) Essentially sacrificing for it. Now, Person B values that same wine differently. They do not feel the above conditions are necessary for the wine to be experienced and open and allow it to be experienced for whatever meal or occasion they personally see fit. Person A and Person B are valuing the same wine in an incompatible way. If person A is willing to honor that wine with expending resouces and ensuring the proper conditions for its experience and learns that person B has chosen not to value it in the same way, it is reasonable for person A to feel undervalued. The main point here is exclusivity. Person A is not exerting "resources" setting the stage for an expensive meal for just anyone. They want to share a novel experience with one person or as few people as possible. However , Person B has chosen to share that experience with a higher number of people regardless of the resources expended on it. There is a basic incompatibility of values between persons A and B. Why would person A buy a steak dinner for person B when Person B may have settled ( at various times) for a hamburger instead? Yes, person B would enjoy and appreciate the steak, but they have shown in the past that they would settle for less.

@lynnferry291 It's actually contrary to what you have said, as I loved and cared for my ex a lot. However, if one believes that sex and love are separate things, then it really does not matter how much money, dates, or time one invests in the other for sex. If one is willing to have x number of casual partners and then decides at some point that they want one to be their "exclusive" partner, it would mean that sex is just sex for them. It's just a physical act that can be emotional /spiritual whenever one decides it to be. It's arbitrary. But if you believe that sex and love are on equal footing, then your approach to it changes. In my personal view sex creates a physical, emotional, and spiritual bond that is unique from any other relationship and has a profound level of exclusivity in its nature. Scientifically its proven that a persons brain chemistry, mood, and emotions are linked to the partner they are sleeping with, so its not just a physical act for pleasure. You are biologically emotionally and spiritually attached to them. There is gravity associated with a decision to sleep with someone. I did spend quite a bit on my ex by my own choice ( i think in any committed relationship that is a requirement, so im not complaining). And I do not assume the reasoning to why women decide to sleep with who they do, but I do take actions into account, and actions are a reflection of ones values. To be honest, I take full responsibility for my actions in that relationship. It wasn't ny ex's fault at all. If anything I went agaisnt my own values and should have known better, but since I chose to be in that relationship i'm sharing my perspective on how different views on the value of sex can cause incompatibilties and eventually breakdown in a relationship.

@@TGP109 Time, energy and emotional resources...

You think very low of yourself and value sex too much. Typical

@@stephanieodiase And you think a men's perspective is identical to a woman's on this matter... typical.

your thinking it's so sad I have no words left

I don't know about other women but I don't find that attractive at all. If a guy tells me they have slept with 50 other girls he's probably a player

No woman out there wants a guy with a high body count. That says to me the guy is a player & only looking to get laid & most likely not capable of a serious relationship with anyone. @Andrew Friend. Women don't lie about stuff like this, especially here on YT, where you can be anonymous. I wouldn't knowingly ever go near a guy with a high body count.

​@@melchiormagni No. Only men see sexual conquest as a sign of masculinity. This goes back to the ealry days when only men with resources got to mate. Once you got enough resources, you could procure a wife. Since the cost of procuring a wife is more than the average man can afford, they've adopted a subculture that circumvents the resources Since most modern men cannot meet the financial requirements, they've adopted a sub culture that uses sexual conquest as the new standard for manhood. I get actually be a protector and provider, so how can I look like one? It is essentially conspicuous consumption. This sub culture creates homosocial behavioral expectations of how to perform masculinity. Now, What I will say is that That there are a lot of correlations to unpack... 1. Attractive men can have sex whenever. Women don't like men more because they've had a lot of sex, they like attractive guys. Attractive men have a lot of sex. Correlation, not causation. 2. Unattractive guys, don't have a lot of sex. A big turn off to women is a man with no sense of self. Essentially, a man who has no self esteem and lacks confidence. For men, they base their self esteem on getting women. If they cant get women, they have no self esteem and are unattractive. Women are not attracted to them. The key would be to base your self esteem on something other than getting sex. That way, you could be confident (confidence is based on comptency) and attract women. This would also eliminate the the need you to think that sex is the grand prize. You won't feel such a sense of accomplishment because your identity isn't based on it. Hence, no need to mate guard by reducing sperm competition. You want women's value to be based on sex because that is what you've decided yours is. You can't be special if other men have had her cookie. 😂😂😂. Seriously. Wtf? You already know you can't meet the actual protection and provision requirements of manhood, which is what would actually make you special.

very unattractive

@@aufache at 29 you're going to her to drop those standards.

You are then saying women's value lies only in their sex? Is this the 500's? Wtf

@@jackieblue04 The number on the calendar doesn't magically change people's basic instincts... that's not how this works.

No... in the end, it's actually based on logic and sound reasoning... Only low-value males who have no other choice think otherwise...

@@GaboH-h7s Yeah, I used to think that too. Drove me nuts. But I later learned that we all have to grow spiritually before we attract the right person. You'll never find happiness in another person. That's an illusion. May feel real for a while, but then it fades away. Anyway, good luck. We all walk a path in life that leads to freedom or bondage.

@@GaboH-h7s But what's more important is that you improve yourself so that you will attract the right person. Don't lie to yourself. If a woman's looks is the most important thing, then don't cry later when you find out she lied and slept with many more men than she originally told you. I know what I'm talking about. Been there, done that!

*If a woman's looks is the most important thing, then don't cry later when you find out she lied and slept with many more men than she originally told you.* A woman's looks are the most important thing for *initial* physical attraction... not for anything beyond that.

@@davepazz580 I used to think the same way. But I was lying to myself. Looks STAY the most important thing for a long time, too long, especially when the sex is good. Then we become entangled with the wrong woman. And the cycle repeats and repeats. You may think you're above that. But you're not. Breaking that cycle is one of the most difficult thing any man can do. But it's worth it.

Appreciate it. More to come

Right dudes have lost their minds out here.

Exodus 20:7 “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.”

​@@gamerbuilder6179 what story is this from 🤷🏼‍♀️

I despise promiscuous men.

> And I know A LOT of men that don't care about their woman's past and find "experienced" attractive. You know that men claim that they don't care. That's a difference. Many men adopt the "progressive" beliefs thinking it's their only option to have a relationship. Like we say in Russia - "if you can't find a stamped paper, write on the toilet one".

man just wont value promiscues woman, they will just use them for sex without commitment becouse why would they invest when the other guy got it for free?

"Don't care" about their woman's past simply means the guy knows he can't do any better than her... he is not in a position to have real choices in women. i.e. he is a "low" value man... only low value men idioticaly pay more than what the previous guy who had his woman paid for her, which was nothing.

@@davepazz580 Or he actually loves her for who she is. Surprise, surprise!? ;) (You guys are so narrow minded....)

This is such a difficult situation. On one hand you're probably concerned that something traumatic happened to her, but on the other hand you are probably ticked off that there is a lot that you do not know about your wife.

Even if you know about your wife’s past now, what does it matter when you’re married to her? You people care about this so much, it’s kind of funny.

how on earth do you end up in a marriage with a woman whos past you do not know?

Like Cyper from the matrix said "ignorance is bliss" let sleeping dogs lie. If you truly love your wife I'd just let it go if I were you.

@@1bigdogthe You mean just like if a woman "truly loves her husband" she should just "let it go" that he's not making as much money or hasn't yet built up the status she'd ideally want him to have? Yeah... we all see how that's turning out don't we?

Chaste men are the only ones who deserve chaste women.

@@sarahrobertson634 And I guess women who make 6 figures every year are the only ones who deserve men making 6 figures a year... Women who are 6'2" tall are the only ones who deserve 6'2" men... Women who can bench press 200 lbs. are the only ones who deserve "strong" men... Hope you see by now how ridiculous your logic is...

I'm glad you changed that to "deserve" @@sarahrobertson634

@@sarahrobertson634 Almost like "no sex before mariage" was for both man and women

​@@sarahrobertson634But most women aren't chaste and most men are chaste. That's the problem.

Look every action you take as a man is a bet, some women are a bad bet and some are a good bet. Marriage means your fucking life is on the line, don't risk your life on something you are not sure about. The worst thing that can happen to you is that your gut feeling was right and that you should have listened to it. View the situation more in a emotionless way, subtract sex and Love, then look at the situation and make your decision. If you choose to ignore her past then its up to you, but if she did not change and values her past as a fun time and that she still messages ppl from that time then is time to pack your Bags and leave. Don't avoid a decision because it might feel bad and don't choose a decision because it might be the easy way, be precise in what you wan. (Take ashwagandha that shit helped me to think without stress in that same scenario)

Thanks for the advice brother, I truly appreciate it. I will have made a decision before this year ends, can’t have these problems in the new year

A couple of things: 1) Why does she keep messages from other men on her phone that are over 3 years old? 2) "Where are you, I need to f..k" OMG, that hurt my stomach and she's not even my girlfriend. Not only that, you said SOME of the guys left messages like that, not just one. I can't think of a girl in my life I would feel comfortable saying something so crass to. Honestly, that discomfort you're feeling now isn't going to suddenly evaporate when you get married. In fact, it's going to intensify if, as you say, it "eats you up". As painful as it might be, it might be best for both of you to cut your losses now.

You are her safe nice guy choice.

It is absolutely over for you dude

@@Rainer125 no. This is beginning. How important is sex for you? Now is time to protect own sexual energy for better purposes. "Semen retention protection" if you want to be strong, high value Man, you can not be possesd by sex. You have to Control your mind.

Menopause? It can be a real game changer and it has nothing to do with you.

It's not "weird" but it's also neither here nor there... The large majority of men these days are either virgins or have very limited sexual experience... yet these same men are leaving the dating scene in droves from lack of finding partners in general. Obviously, being a virgin or very low body count guy isn't an asset in today's world in any way, shape or form... so what you're saying here is inconsequential to the grand scheme of things.

@@davepazz580 I disagree, it's an asset but only if you are abstaining by CHOICE. men who are focused on their goals and want to save themselves for the right woman are so attractive in my eyes. but if we're talking about men who wish they could sleep around, but don't have the confidence to, obviously their motivation is way different and is not an asset at all. it goes both ways. no man wants a virgin woman who just can't get laid but wants to. they value her because she turns men down, waiting for the one she can trust with her mind, soul, body, and spirit.

It doesn't even matter because the guys "abstaining by choice" *still* aren't enjoying any amazing benefits from virginhood... they go through life being largely ignored by the vast majority of women. The problem here is you think men and women are perfectly identical in everything related to sex, and they each have identical value in the dating/mating game... I don't know who told you this, but it's about as wrong as one could possibly get. Even you said "if we're talking about men who wish they could sleep around, but don't have the confidence to" - which means you know that it takes actual *confidence* for a guy to have the necessary attraction power to sleep with multiple women (along with other accomplishments in life, don't forget that one also). But there really is no such thing as a guy walking around super-confident knowing he isn't attracting women enough to sleep with him... just "thinking" he could be having all these attractive women in bed but "choosing" not to - no such thing exists, trust me. He can either do it and *will* do it, or he simply isn't attractive enough to... there is no in-between - men aren't women and therefore, don't have a woman's mind set in sex. Tell me how much women are attracted to men with no confidence? Do you think that kind of magnetic, sexual confidence magically appears out of thin air? No... it comes from actual *accomplishments* in sex and other areas of life. Whereas for women, it's the total opposite... it takes confidence for her to *not* end up sleeping with multiple partners. A woman that "can't get laid but wants to" is probably such a tiny anomaly that it's not even worth brining up... she would have to be absolutely hideous to an *extreme* level that zero guys would want to bang her.

​@@yzma6142This is a good point that no one is really talking about. Men experience "receiving" sex as validation of value. Value as compared to other men. If they get sex from someone no one wants they don't care. They don't value the woman more or less, she's just a means to an orgasm. But if they get to bed someone who is sexy but has a low body count that means she CHOSE him. Out of all the other men she could get! He must be so awesome! So wait, he isn't trying to find the best partner he's just competing with other men!! Men will think more about other men while trying to fuck women than the woman they're fucking. I know this because none of my ex boyfriends cared about my same-sex body count, only other men. It's so bizzare and kind of pathetic honestly. I've never met a mature and well-adjusted man who gave a fuck about body count. I don't care if men's obsession with purity is cultural or genetic, it's outdated and unevolved. Gay men don't care, lesbians don't care, just men who want the prettiest toy to prove to their buddies that they're worthy. Blegh.

*Men experience "receiving" sex as validation of value. Value as compared to other men. If they get sex from someone no one wants they don't care.* Women do the exact same thing... don't kid yourself on that one. A large part of a man's value comes directly from the fact that other women want him... women don't care for men that other women don't actively want, such men are immediately disregarded as not being "good enough" for her. *They don't value the woman more or less, she's just a means to an orgasm.* And women don't value the man more or less, he's just a means to her immediate elevation of status thanks to partnering with man other women also want. *But if they get to bed someone who is sexy but has a low body count that means she CHOSE him.* Same as when a woman seriously lands a desirable man (I don't mean just for sex but for a serious commitment) actively wanted by other women, that means he chose HER among the others he just had sex with short term. *Out of all the other men she could get!* Just as among all the other women this desirable man already had sex with then forgot about, he chose to commit to the one that made herself useful in his life... *He must be so awesome!* Just as the chosen women would feel... *So wait, he isn't trying to find the best partner he's just competing with other men!* And likewise, the woman wasn't trying to find the "best" partner either, she was just competing with other women... *Men will think more about other men while trying to fuck women than the woman they're fucking.* The same can easily be said about women... they cared more about which men the other women wanted instead of the man they are sexing right now. *I know this because none of my ex boyfriends cared about my same-sex body count, only other men.* Why did you expect him to care about them? *It's so bizzare and kind of pathetic honestly.* Then if you were intellectually honest, you'd have to say the exact same about women... they basically do the same thing. *I've never met a mature and well-adjusted man who gave a fuck about body count.* Just as I've never met a "mature" and "well-adjusted" woman that didn't care about a man's financial situation and status... btw, no man *initially* cares about a woman's body count, because the first goal is sex... it only becomes important later when properly assessing a woman for something beyond a purely casual relationship. Men that *absolutely* don't care about a woman's body count and will seriously commit to a high body count woman is a sign of low value and having no standards on his part... *I don't care if men's obsession with purity is cultural or genetic, it's outdated and unevolved.* No, it's actually quite practical and perfectly justified... just as women's own methods of choosing men. *Gay men don't care, lesbians don't care, just men who want the prettiest toy to prove to their buddies that they're worthy. Blegh.* Those don't count in this discussion, as there is an entirely different dynamic going on there... But the last part can easily be said about women (as I proved in the previous lines)...

Huh? The *vast* majority of men in the dating age range are either virgins or have very, very low body counts (maybe 1 or 2 past partners, that's it)... *most* men couldn't get laid if their life depended on it. If you seriously think "it's so hard to find a man that is a virgin" then the only conclusion I can come to is you're only focusing on the very few men that all other women want as well... of course those guys are *not* going to be virgin losers, they will have higher body counts than most because women keep offering sex to them all the time.

You are a queen......... Just remember this thing..... Don't listen to promiscuous society...... That's it.....

*They are worried you have had another man bigger and better than them and will be comparing them. and fear that they won’t measure up. That’s really what it boils down to😅* This is what bitter feminists tell themselves in order to make themselves feel better about their bad life choices and subsequent loss of value...

I think women should be able to do whatever they want. But I will never lower my standards and date someone with a past.

Your first sentence actually confirms why men don't want women with promiscuous pasts for serious relationships, because, yes, the odds are higher that she's had a better/bigger lover than you. The less body count, the greater the likelihood you'll be the best she's ever had. This is why virgins make the most faithful wives, and faithfulness decreases as past body count increases.

@@catsnchords Not really... it's about not wanting to pay a single penny more for what the previous guy enjoyed for free.

No problem call us insecure or whatever shaming tactic you want. At the end of the day we won’t commit to a slut end of discussion.

My opinion is that it's biological reinforced subconsciously by society

Definitely by society. Because prior to the 1950s, both men and women were viewed being immoral moral for being unchaste.

The evidence that it's biological doesn't pan out when you consider gay people. The vast overwhelming majority of whom do not give a piss in a rainstorm about their partner's body count.

Society

Not exactly that, but there are findings that show higher body counts(be it from casual hookups/fwb or one night stands/short term relationships) destroys a person's ability to form lasting emotional bonds with a partner. And this effects women more so than men. And once the damage is done it can't really be repaired.

No. Like it was said in the video, it is extremely easy for a woman to have an "exploratory" sexual past, and it is extremely hard for a man to have one. Sadly, women tend to prefer men with good looks and good game - which are the small minority that has a chance to have such a past.

@@Straga_Severa as a woman with a lot of female friends… not all women have the option. Nor do all women want the option.

@@poeticeclipse The second point is true - and that's the women who don't have the "exploratory" past. The first one is completely false - any woman has that option. Tinder experiments show that a 200-kg woman gets hundreds of matches, that a 60-year-old grandma has hundreds of matches. Any woman HAS the option, many just don't pick this option.

@@Straga_Severa I have to wonder, and this isn’t me being contradictory, does that swipe right ALWAYS translate into a date and/or sex? In my experience men are quite lonely and will TALK to anyone for companionship, even if a physical attraction isn’t strong. It lifts the ego, the mood, the connection with another human. Perhaps women are more selective about who we give our time to… even if it’s just texting/calling. If a swipe resulting in a date is entirely different than a swipe itself which becomes a pen pal.

​@@poeticeclipse I understand that you don't want to contradict me for just being contradictory, don't worry =-) But your position is not correct, it's kinda feminine ;-) Yes, men really feel lonely, but no, a physical act of sex is very fulfilling for a man in alleviating his loneliness. If a guy is not inviting a girl on a date, it's mostly because he is too shy or afraid of consequences (rejection, shaming, etc.) - that's why men become pen pals. But let's just run the numbers. For the sake of clarity let's discount the fact that a woman can initiate contact too - it is an OPTION for her. So, if even 50% of guys are too scared to invite a girl on a date, and if 50% of guys who invite her on a date are too scared to invite her to his bedroom, it's still leaves 25% of guys who will initiate sex. And if a girl gets (let's pick a really low number for a woman) a 20 of matches per day, it's still leaves her with 5 options to have sex per day. FIVE. PER. DAY. To compare this to men's number, an amount of matches that is "normal" for an average guy is 1-2 per WEEK. And most girls will resist the direct sexual advancements from an average-looking guy, or just use him for validation or free meal. Therefore, in order to have casual sex, he needs to work his ass off to both get more matches (learn the algorythm, get photos which convey the story, etc) and to be really smooth, charming and good looking (via gym, style, etc). I know this first-hand, because for the last three years I'm working on my dating skills and I still have 2/3 of the road before me. I'm more of the relationship guy than a hookup guy, but in current dating climate the relationship starts with sex, so the skills I learn are the same. It is orders of magnitude harder for a man than for a woman to get laid. And I'm not complaining about it, of course - but this is just the fact ;-)

Yeah they do. Dealing with that now. Huge red flag to have exes where the book was never fully closed. For me. All my pages are turned with exes. No going back. Some women will keep that open for a full back hook up. And that’s dangerous

Woman is singular, women is plural. Read a book.

They'll never come out and say it... but it's always an issue.

Excellent points. I would also add that the higher the notch count, the less loyal she will end up being. Because high notches at a young age means she is not committing to any relationship, or poorly choosing partners who are unwilling to commit to her, and so loyalty and faithfulness are foregone virtues of her character.

It’s a turn off to women who are conservative socially.

A man being attractive to other women is good. However, women don't normally include a man's sexually experience as an factor in whether or not they like him. We don't measure a man by his sexual conquests. Only men treat sexually conquest as a demonstration of manhood. It only comes up if he is a man whore or if you are super conservative and the woman wants a virgin or something. It is not part of our thought process, unless it relates to some defect. If there is any bias against men with limited experience, it is related to the fact that they are usually socially awkward, insecure, etc. The inexperience is caused by personality or attractiveness defects.

They don’t care as much because they are after something different. They aren’t after sexual purity as they are commitment. Resources. Time. Attention. Validation. Love. Approval. Competent. Discipline. Hard worker. Problem solver. Height. Status. It’s not high up on their list as because men it’s usually: Purity. Youth. Beauty. Are at the top. And yea you can throw in things like loyalty and respect but a man wants SEXXXXXXXXX women want potential and follow through. Men want a hot young thang. Simply put. 😂

From my own experience, I've noticed that once a woman is seriously into a man, she will *expect* him to have a high body count and may even be disappointed to learn he actually doesn't have one... There are a few factors at play here, but much of it has to do with the fact that women need to have the attraction they feel for a man "validated" by other women... they *never* want to be the only ones who find a certain man attractive or desirable, because that would raise doubts about her ability to spot a valuable male. It's like a man walking into a club alone vs. walking accompanied by several women... alone, he will be lucky if any woman at the club even notices he's alive, most likely he'll remain invisible to the women there for the rest of the night. But walking in with a group of women accompanying him, the interest of the other women at the club gets *immediately* triggered... they'll be finding excuses to come to that man's group and find out more about him. So when a man she is totally into reveals he is a virgin or has never even had a real dating life at all, her mind will naturally assume "This means he has no value at all, because no other women actually want him..." and it's a letdown often times. Another key difference here is that a man's body is *not* the main asset that a woman is looking for in a relationship... it's his financial ability and social status that separates him from the countless other available men around. Women know they can get sex from just about any man they wish (since women control access to sex), so there is no sense of "accomplishment" in this... what they instead want is to permanently land a choice man that will *elevate* their lives financially and socially - his physical body's "purity" plays absolutely no role in these requirements she's looking for whatsoever. This is the total *opposite* of what men look for in women... a woman's body *is* her main asset in the relationship first and foremost, so it should come as no surprise that how she used that body in the past bears direct relevance to a potential male partner today.

I wouldn't want a man-whore, it's just that the most desirable men often do have a body count that's too high.

But then you have a choice to grow spiritually. And that’s the real prize.

Facts brother ​@@GillAgainsIsland12

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Thank you for your comment.

Good luck with the divorce bro. Enjoy. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

this is the reason why there are so many divorces these days....

It matters because he caused harm to his previous partners, so who’s to say he wouldn’t cause the same harm to his next partner? A woman who has had previous sexual partners isn’t harming anyone. As long as she doesn’t carry any diseases from her sexual past, it shouldn’t matter.

@@erinwhipple4666 a women who was very promiscuous may return to her ways while in a relationship, because she never learned how to control that urge when she was single, or her behaviour changed because of a extrinsic motivation e.g. now she gets no attention from the kind of man that triggered that promiscuous behaviour, what if a man like that came along For me, I’m in my 30s, I’ve been saving sex for marriage all my life, the only way I know the women has self control regarding sex is if I ask about her motivations for engaging in that behaviour, etc. Since I’ve never had sex or anything close, the desire for sex will be stronger for someone with a sexual past, will they be able to control that urge knowing it could be a year or 2 before we got married.

@@erinwhipple4666actually, there is a link between past experiences and likelihood to divorce

@@tomcoop9750 that’s a great example of correlation without causation. Just because two sets of data are correlated does not mean that one causes the other. You have to find a direct link to WHY having previous partners may increase the risk of divorce. It’s certainly not the case in my relationship.

@@erinwhipple4666 I would like to see this study myself. I agree with what you said about correlation v causation. Statistics get abused a lot in this space. Most people don’t know what they mean.

Good luck....I steer clear and it isn't insecurity. There are very good reasons to avoid promiscuous women.

Nature have conferred women to have sex with anyone she wants to but that same nature has conferred us men a power to commit to any woman we want to. And no resourceful man will commit his trust and resources to a promiscuous woman not because he's insecure but because he's smart enough to know that this woman can cheat on him anytime she wants to.

​@@johngalt6838Agreed. I feel disgusted very fast when I imagine how many other men came inside that same hole.

Me, me, me ❤ becouse in this group of behaviour most of have somecritical issue to be good ltr partner. You propably live in country where cost of having children is high, infidelity women in westrn - high,divorce rate - high.

Exactly. Never date a man who cares about your body count or asks about it. That's a potentially controlling and insecure man and I would never let anyone with that attitude into my life.

My main concern is that the video didn’t discuss the woman’s present. Who is she now as a person? When it comes to these kinds of conversations, I never hear the woman’s present brought up. There are scenarios where a woman slept with a lot of men in the past, but now, that woman has changed, has a better personality, and does moral actions. Would that be fair if a man she’s dating is pleased about her character, but is too spooked about her past that he suddenly breaks up with her and moves along?

@@itninvestigate Well, we're talking mainly about instinct here. While one would hope a man judges a woman based on who she is now and not who she was, the subconscious reaction can still be quite strong. I know a guy whose mental health is greatly affected by thinking about his partner's sexual past even after having two children with her. He really wishes that wasn't the case but he just can't help himself. It makes him feel physically ill.

Dude sounds like a lot of cope on your side being stuck in a god-awful, desperate situation where your most basic needs for sex and intimacy are in no way being fulfilled. If I were you, I'd be taking a good hard look inward at myself, specifically what else was going on around 8 years ago that got her to stop being attracted to you and start covering up her lack of attraction to you with bullshit about phobias and medical issues. She obviously didn't have a problem with it before. Did you get hurt or injured seriously? You mentioned being medically retired. Did you start getting fat? Start acting needy and entitled? Did she have to take care of you a lot more, almost like you were another child in the household and not the man in charge of it? And what can you DO -- not "TaLk AbOuT", but just start DOing -- to fix your side of things? IDK if it's actually worthwhile for you to stay trapped in a totally loveless marriage any longer, but either way you could probably stand to lose a few pounds and start acting like a man again. You're gonna need to if you wanna have any shot at love and intimacy moving forward, whether it's with your current wife or whoever the next woman is.

I am so sorry to hear this.

Hmm, same thing happened to me (but without having kids and marriage). She was very sexual but after 3 years she suddenly started to "not feel good" so of course i gave her space, time etc. After 5 months of no sex ( which was extremely weird) i found out that she was fucking another guy. I hope this is not your case

My husband was like this for 17 years. We married as virgins. Sex grossed him out. We were together a handful of times all those years. He didn’t even like to kiss other than a peck on the cheek. Other men always found me attractive. But he never saw a point in sex. It hurt to divorce when I didn’t want to divorce, but couldn’t handle it anymore. And then to hear all this hatred for divorced women online. It’s always our fault they say. I wish you the best. If she keeps you monogamous, it’s simply not right or fair. I’m Muslim. We believe in polygyny for a reason.

This made me realize something… a lot of relationships are secret transactions but men’s side of the transaction is the only part that’s made explicit (the relationship/marriage part where you literally sign a contract).. women’s side of the transaction is implied, giving them a level of protection when they go against it.. they can pretend it doesn’t exist because it’s not explicitly stated and that allows them to take advantage of the other party whose end of the bargain is literally on paper.

a better one is - how would you feel if you fiancé proposed to you with a ring from a pawn shop.....the ring was relatively cheap and it belonged to a divorced couple before you......would you accept that ring and proposal ? I would argue most women would be offended same is true for men being asked to marry a woman with a sexual past

@@JIX9ISLER1986 ... I wouldn't care, it's just a ring lol. I think the analogies in the video are better.

@@MsStonedAgin good for you. my point stands

Women are at more risk than men are. Everything travels outward into the woman.

​@@JIX9ISLER1986I bought my own : problem solved.

Women are "wising up"?? You're kidding, right? The number of single mothers keeps rising all the time, this fact alone negates everything you said here... Sounds like you're no better than the "rejects" these clueless women are raising by themselves.

Ah, wisdom speaks. You spoke the truth.

@@GillAgainsIsland12 Fairy tales...

@@davepazz580 You sound like an atheist. Atheists never find happiness. I'm not here to argue with you. Only to tell you the truth that I learned the hard way. I've been through the whole gamut. Take it or leave it. And, no, it's not that everybody is different, it's that not everybody is ready for the truth.

@@GillAgainsIsland12 You think you're the only one that's learned the "hard way" huh?

That's why they are shaming women. 20 years ago, they were shaming women because they wouldn't put out. Now, that women are giving away sex, they're just mad because women won't give it to them. The funny thing, is that they still aren't offering a relationship, which is the thing that would get them sex. They just want free sex like the hot guys get.

Promiscuous women have always been looked down upon, no matter the demographic. Sorry to break it to you.

Kinda weird that you seem to be equating “having sex” to be a form of status. I dislike promiscuous men AND women. Maybe you should start focusing on your future after you retire, and once your body can no longer support having kids, instead of which demographic of people can have the most sex.

This is so funny. You are not shamed for having sex, you are shamed for preferring to have sex with top20% guys while leaving normal men in the dust, then crying foul when you learn that none of those top20% guys commit to you. Have courage to say: "Yes, I know those guys I sleep with will not commit to me", stop saying that men are "commitment-phobic", and your position would be coherent, there would be no points to shame you about. What you do with your body is your choice. What we do with our commitment is our choice.

why should a guy invest in a promiscues woman when the other guy got it for free? Man just dont value promiscues woman for more than sex

This is what bitter feminists say to make themselves feel better about their own poor life decisions...

​@davepazz580 Been married 45 years. This is so important to me and my husband that it's never in our 49- year relationship even come up. He's never asked me and I've never asked him. We got to know each other by dating and living together for four years, and were convinced that we were great together. We were right and the past is irrelevant.

@@juliachildress2943 Your case has absolutely nothing to do with what people of today face in the dating market...

@@davepazz580 I don't consider myself a feminist or bitter for the matter... I just accept that people's lives are not on hold just because they have not met the right person yet

@@MissLussau That's nice, but doesn't change a man's basic, instinctive reaction on this matter...

So what you say is that every man is a pedo? I am so happy that I am not living in your country!

​@@andersnielsen6044 wow nice reasoning when you have no counter points, calling someone a pedo out if nowhere 😂

@@jkuhede That's all they can do when they realize they have no logical counterarguments... very typical.

Men aren't women and women aren't men... don't expect there to be a perfect, mirror-like reflection of characteristics and natural behaviors between the two. As a woman, it's simply not possible for you to relate whatsoever to how a man instinctively feels... you are "rationalizing" based on a female mindset, that's not how men think at all. A man could just as easily call women "self-centered" for primarily choosing partners based on their financial resources and social status, instead of how nice he is... so it goes both ways.

This is the kind of comment I was looking for. When he was done with his explanation, I got the gist of it, but there was this nagging thought at the back of my head saying that all of this worrying about someone’s past is odd to me. A person doesn’t know the circumstances or details surrounding those past relations, and before they’d learn anything about it, they get upset about it. The more I think about it, the more I wonder if it has something to do with some kind of sense of ownership you have toward the person you’re dating. It happens naturally as time progresses, and if a person learns about their date’s past, it may have the same feeling as learning about your partner cheating on you. Is that right?

@@itninvestigate yes, absolutely. I think really, why would you want to cause each other that kind of pain anyway?

If you feel that your past relationships are "none of his business" then you really don't care for him in the first place... plain and simple.

​@davepazz580 nope, that's an assumption on your part. It doesn't do anymore any favors to know these things. If you think you should know you are possesive and entitled.

It's not an assumption but a fact... women that actually love and care about the men in their lives wouldn't hold back such information because you know that eventually, it would mean you've living a lie with that man. Just like when a man is seriously into a woman and fully sees her as "the one", he wouldn't hold back detailed information about his financial life...

Yep. This video is just a long winded way to say “me no like women who slept with other men before me because they might’ve been better in bed and I’m too insecure to accept that.” Essentially men want sexually inexperienced women so they don’t know any better when he pulls out the 3 inch punisher for mediocre vanilla sex…

@@kelseyferguson3485 This is what bitter feminists say to make themselves feel better about their own poor life choices.

Exactly...

Just like when a woman uses any physical force against a man, she's seen as "strong" and "heroic"... but if a man does anything of the sort to a woman, he's deemed as being "weak" and a "coward". Isn't this a "double" standard as well? After all, they are both doing the same thing... right? Actually no, they aren't the same thing at all... which is why men have one standard and a woman has another, because they are *unequal* to even start with. A man's body count makes absolutely *zero* difference to whatever body count he is entitled to desire in a woman... just like a woman's annual income makes *zero* difference to the fact that she'd like a man making a much higher annual income. These aren't "double" standards, they are just common sense...

Women pretty much can have sex whenever they want, so that puts extra responsability for you, Men need to work their ass off to get laid and accomplish a lot of requirements women demand.

"Even though I was a virgin when we got together. I had partaken in other things that he decided made me gross." what does that even mean ???

​@@JIX9ISLER1986oral sex maybe

Men just don't want someone with a worse sexual past than them(Meaning a guy with a high count may take a woman with a high count if it's less than theirs). Most men with high self-worth would walk away.. More insecure men may stick around due to fear that they may not get a better option if any.. But the moment they do get options they usually cheat. My advice is to have all these difficult conversations before your next relationship. Understand your values and deal breakers, especially around your finances.. sexual life/past, and purpose for your lives. Less time will be wasted this way

Think about it, what does ''virgin'' mean to most people?@@JIX9ISLER1986

@briannarivera7592 I'm sorry to hear that your fiancé left you, but in all honesty, I think you dodged a bullet. It took him SEVEN years to figure out that he didn't like that you fooled around with someone else before him?? I think it was an excuse to break things off with you. Forget the asshole and try to move on the best you can.

No... more like, if those other guys didn't want to have you around for very long even after you gave away your body to them, then why should I want to keep you around?

it was probably 20 before him and nobody cuffed😂😂

This is it.

@@jackieblue04 Not at all..

@@davepazz580 “iF tHoSe OtHeR gUyS DiDnT wAnT tO hAvE yOu ArOuNd FoR vErY LoNg” bruv WHAT?!?! So by your logic women are incapable of breaking up with a man?! Riddle me this; if a woman’s only goal is to find a man, get married, and have kids why is it that most divorces are initiated by women and statistically, half of divorced women have 0 intention of ever marrying again.

It's not really bad, male loneliness has nothing to do with relationships with women

So you didn't bother to look into the data on promiscuity and paternity fraud, cheating or divorce. They bother me way more than comparing myself to past men(im not saying that isn't a big issue).

Sounds like you couldn't think on your own, so you just copied and pasted a very old feminist shaming tactic designed to make high body count women feel better about their poor life choices. When it comes to women, no man wants to pay a penny more than the last guy in her life did for the exact same benefit... a high body count woman is basically telling you she's a failure at relationships, has no self-control or any feeling or self-worth, incredibly naive and can't keep a man. If none of the other guys she allowed to run through her saw he as being fit for anything beyond just sex, why would she be fit for you? This is just basic common sense...

''Analogies are like coffee. They usually suck''. So, do yourself a favor and don't say that worrying about your partner remembering exes being better in the sack is ''the most devastating feeling imaginable''

@@chadcadsonvii5258 This isn't a competition. I'm replying to the subject of the video.

@@mariletakoutsorevithi2202 I'm being hyperbolic for effect. That should've been self-evident.

*Not every guy is constantly thinking about sex, and plenty of woman have more libido than the average man. Look up any real research on the topic.* You're kidding, right? "not every guy" ok.. but about 95% of all men do - more than enough to make a generalization in that direction. "Plenty of women" have "more libido than the average man" - but that doesn't matter and can't even be compared to a man's libido because a woman's "standard" of sex partner is *much* more selective and narrower than a man's standard in a woman as a sexual partner. Sex drive and libido *within* an established relationship is another matter... *Any major differences in sex drive appear to be primarily socially enforced* Oh yes, the old "We were just raised to think this way" bullsh*t explanation... *Your statement about any woman just getting sex is also ridiculous. It's just not the case, and most people don't want to bang a random person.* You're kidding, right? Take an average woman and an average man, tell them both to go out and rack up as many sexual partners as possible, the woman will *easily* be in double digits before the guy even finishes tying his shoes... Whether or not a woman "wants" to bang a random person is completely irrelevant... the point is she *could* very well do it if she wanted to, whereas a man could not. *Plenty of women struggle in finding sexual partners.* Correction: Plenty of women struggle to find *valuable* sexual partners they actually want to align themselves with... 80% of the "average" male population is invisible to the large majority of women.

Men just do not like promiscuous women. I guess having standards is bad. Men don't like to be a "Plan B". Why are you all so defensive about it?

And what about divorce/cheating rates in relation to promiscuity? There are many many more statistics that suggest that it is simply better to stay away from people that are promiscuous.

@@mateuszmisztela601 Yes, that's true. The issue is this guy treats sex like a commodity because of it. Just because a woman doesn't want to have frequent sex with you doesn't mean she doesn't care about you. Treating all women or all men as identical is the problem with this video. Some men don't mind being in open relationships. Some women are asexual. I don't like the over-generalizing language present in this video. Saying that men, in a blanket sense, want sex with little investment is just not true. Taking a piece of statistical evidence and extrapolating beyond what it means is the problem here. Yes, if you want a monogamous, long-term relationship, then getting involved with a person who has a new sexual partner every week is probably not a great idea unless you have evidence that they have changed. You have to approach each person differently. This is why dating is a thing, to get to know someone more than just statistics. It's entirely possible that someone had a period of fast, casual sex in their life and now doesn't want that anymore. This is not something impossible. Now, if you are a risk-averse person, you might decide to not date someone like that regardless, and that's fine.

Run girl! This isn't about his moral standards! This is about his ego and low self esteem. Next time he tries to shame you and drag you through the mud, you do the same about his dirty p o r n addiction! If he denies it now, he surely did it in the past! He does not love you, leave him and let him find a virgin and you find a mentally healthy man.

Men know what women want in relationships such has being a protector and provider but women are clueless as to what men desire. It’s hardwired into every man to feel disgust if his wife / girlfriend is not a virgin. This is because from the beginning of time men could only secure paternity if she was a virgin. Very recent modern day technology of paternity tests does not change his biological make up. “Every man whether they simp and deny this to their woman knows this very truth.” Each man if given a choice will overwhelmingly select the virgin bride over the non-virgin.

@@peter2633 Men know what women want? Since when? lmao! Also before you use the word disgust, think about how women feel about your pervert sick activities online. About virgins in the past, girls were marred at the age of 15 and 16! Then it was moved to 18. Do you men want to get married at the age of 18?? No! Not even at 25 so what's your point? The only reason you feel strong about her past is because you have size issues and terrified that she had bigger and better. It's all about your ego, nothing else. Stay single dude. You don't even deserve a virgin! You watch dirt online so stop with the moral b.s.! P.s. Many of those married virgins ended up cheating because thier husbands were doing the same.

*Men know what women want? Since when? lmao!* Since always... this isn't rocket science. Go out and ask a bunch of random women what kind of men they want in relationships... ask them if they want a man to *not* be provider and protector, ask them if they want to instead be the main provider and protector of the man. I guarantee you *none* of them will say yes to that... so please stop playing dumb. *Also before you use the word disgust, think about how women feel about your pervert sick activities online.* What "sick" and "perverted" activities online are you talking about, and how do you know what he's personally doing anyway? *About virgins in the past, girls were marred at the age of 15 and 16! Then it was moved to 18. Do you men want to get married at the age of 18??* Men aren't forced to become actual responsible men at 18 as was the case back then... today, they are coddled and enticed to stay "children" well into their 20's. So your question and hypothetical has zero context now and is irrelevant. In terms of relationships as they are today, there are no benefits for men specifically to marry even at 25 given the overall quality and maturity level of women... and it really doesn't even matter, as most guys that age (and below) have a lot of trouble even attracting decent, eligible women in the first place *even* while being decent enough, hard working men themselves. *Not even at 25 so what's your point?* The point is it doesn't matter... Men are the ones who must adapt to whatever the current supply of available women generally demanded of them in order to be eligible for marriage and enjoy its rewards... not just the women themselves, but society in general provided men with a strong incentive (and worthwhile reward) for becoming a man at 18 back in those times you mentioned - but today, that incentive is no longer there. *The only reason you feel strong about her past is because you have size issues and terrified that she had bigger and better.* This is what bitter feminists say to make themselves feel better about the very poor decisions and life choices they made... It's a typical shaming tactic that won't work here... just learn to live with your poor choices like an actual grown up. *It's all about your ego, nothing else.* Look in the mirror when you say this... *Stay single dude. You don't even deserve a virgin! You watch dirt online so stop with the moral b.s.!* There is nothing wrong with staying single for a man... and you really should stop obsessing over this "dirt" you keep bringing up. *p.s. Many of those married virgins ended up cheating because thier husbands were doing the same* What does that have to do with anything here?

⁠@@timmytee734 You’re triggered which confirms my point. You have no real come back other than baseless replies. The grown daughters that I have “already”raised are intelligent and know their true value. They have chosen to not behave in a promiscuous manner because that sort of behavior significantly lowers their value when it pertains to getting married. “Too bad that you don’t already realize this as well.”

They don't "want" you to have a low body count... whether you do or not is your own choice, not any man's. Simply that virgin or low body count women will be regarded and treated differently from high body count women...

Facts!!!

@@Stoudem No, they aren't...